Auric Basin Loot "Exploit" [merged]
The chests were designed to reward the player who did the meta. Jumping from a map to another to farm chests you never contributed to is, unless you are a total hypocrite, an obvious exploit.
Now I won’t go into much economic model explanations but if everyone farmed here it would make GW2 crippling inflation even worst.
Now, do I personally care. Probably not. But all those defending this as “NOT AN EXPLOIT MUH GOLD MUH FARM” are just plain hypocrite or idiots.
There is no crippling inflation.
If the chests were designed to be event rewards, there would be no other way to obtain keys except for doing the meta. The only thing that may or may not be an exploit is the multiloot aspect. And given ANet’s silence on the issue, it is likely not an exploit or it is something that ANet has decided is emergent gameplay.
The chests were designed to reward the player who did the meta.
If that’s the case, why can I buy keys and loot chests even if I don’t participate in the meta?
I think it’s important to understand there isn’t much tolerance for people to invent truths that contradict the way the game is designed, then use those invented truths to ‘prove’ something about the game, then proceed to accuse other people of being idiots and hypocrites because they don’t obviously come to the same conclusions based on the truths you have invented.
(edited by Obtena.7952)
OK let’s be honest then … how is someone looting 20 chests or 200 chests, in an intended loot map, impact you negatively as a player from an economic POV? I’ve already asked this question … I don’t see an answer yet. Again, I see lots of speculation that this is the worst thing for the economy ever … so someone CERTAINLY must be able to tell us WHAT this terrible thing is that is actually ingame …. I don’t mind waiting for an answer …
Until then, yes, I’m going to say it’s jealousy because if you can’t point out a REAL SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE game impact, then what other motive do people have to insist this needs to be fixed?
See, the problem here is this; No, I don’t think Anet intended for people to swap maps to get more access to Grand chests but it is clear that AB was intended to be THE loot map in HoT. Now let’s go a mile high … other than a completely academic argument that it’s ‘not intended’, if there hasn’t been a massive, negative impact on the economy of the game, then what compelling reason does anyone have to fix it? I’m not trying to score internet points here … in a game where Anet wants players to make mats available to each other on the TP to exchange wealth, and included a loot phase in AB to facilitate that, explain to me how it makes sense to nerf MMapping when it achieves that goal? I mean, it’s absolutely ridiculous in the context of the game to pursue it.
It is the same I think.
before patch, theres was a great demand for mats obtained in HoT maps, mainly for Guild Halls upgrades, and there was a great inflation. This demand will increase further, as it seems, the new legendary items will require these materials.
They are becoming gradually making the ascended to become more accessible. The clues indicate that ascedend will be the new “exotic”.
Edit your post please. The quote is not mine, but Obtena’s. Thank you!
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
do all base game maps reset every 2 hours? no? then it isnt stupid.
im bad at sarcasm
i’d really appreciate an official statement to this topic…
is it like:
We don’t want/ don’t have the time to fix it
or more like
We consider fixing it, but it takes it time (in this case, we can give some ideas on how to fix it… even with regards to efficiency/Object-oriented programming style)
or even
We will fix it eventually… or not. We don’t want you to know, so people can’t make predictions on the economy… it’s a surprise!
… we just want to help, if you are somehow stuck with this…
(edited by TheMSR.7120)
i’d really appreciate an official statement to this topic…
is it like:
We don’t want/ don’t have the time to fix itor more like
We consider fixing it, but it takes it time (in this case, we can give some ideas on how to fix it… even with regards to efficiency/Object-oriented programming style)or even
We will fix it eventually… or not. We don’t want you to know, so people can’t make predictions on the economy… it’s a surprise!… we just want to help, if you are somehow stuck with this…
we really dont need to know if they are going to fix it or not. either they will or wont. theres no reason to know beforehand if they are.
im bad at sarcasm
i’d really appreciate an official statement to this topic…
is it like:
We don’t want/ don’t have the time to fix itor more like
We consider fixing it, but it takes it time (in this case, we can give some ideas on how to fix it… even with regards to efficiency/Object-oriented programming style)or even
We will fix it eventually… or not. We don’t want you to know, so people can’t make predictions on the economy… it’s a surprise!… we just want to help, if you are somehow stuck with this…
Non-action is a decision. It is as telling as coming out and saying it, even more strongly as actions speak louder than words. They obviously don’t have a huge problem with it or it would have been fixed ages ago. And they don’t want to tell us one way or another due to the repercussions that would have.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
do all base game maps reset every 2 hours? no? then it isnt stupid.
Okay my bad, then make it 2 hours for base game as well. DR kicks in WAY SOONER on base.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
do all base game maps reset every 2 hours? no? then it isnt stupid.
Okay my bad, then make it 2 hours for base game as well. DR kicks in WAY SOONER on base.
ill be honest the only map i farm thats not HOT is sw. and since it doesnt have dr on the bags bots farm it all day. they are free accounts and latch on to a single character and copy their every attack and every move.this is why diminishing returns are required. im seeing 5-10 bots per map constantly.of course reporting them does nothing. ill keep doing it anyway
im bad at sarcasm
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
do all base game maps reset every 2 hours? no? then it isnt stupid.
Okay my bad, then make it 2 hours for base game as well. DR kicks in WAY SOONER
on base.ill be honest the only map i farm thats not HOT is sw. and since it doesnt have dr on
the bags bots farm it all day. they are free accounts and latch on to a single character and copy their every attack and every move.this is why diminishing returns are
required. im seeing 5-10 bots per map constantly.of course reporting them does nothing. ill keep doing it anyway
They may be bots but f2p accounts can not send out any gold or items they get. They
can’t mail out gold/items and guild vaults are locked to them. So botting does them no good until they buy the game, as their wealth is locked to that account. Even after buying they can’t send gold/items out freely for a month. They are restricted in the amount of gold they can send out (an increase of one gold transferred out every 10 hours) and the amount of gold and items put into and withdrawn from a guild bank.
So not only is their wealth locked up for f2p, they can’t easily send gold out if they are no longer f2p and if they are banned they lose all it all.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
do all base game maps reset every 2 hours? no? then it isnt stupid.
Okay my bad, then make it 2 hours for base game as well. DR kicks in WAY SOONER on base.
ill be honest the only map i farm thats not HOT is sw. and since it doesnt have dr on the bags bots farm it all day. they are free accounts and latch on to a single character and copy their every attack and every move.this is why diminishing returns are required. im seeing 5-10 bots per map constantly.of course reporting them does nothing. ill keep doing it anyway
You do know bots can log out, & go to different instances, correct? All this does is effect REAL players. You can never stop bots in any video game out there EVER. The sooner that’s realized the better.
Shame they wont do anything since it’s a HoT thing. Just gives Anet even more ways to push HoT on everyone. Just like how DR’s only exist in base game, but not HoT. Keep it up, Anet.
Having DR in HoT zones would be stupid since every map resets every 2 hours.
And having DR on ALL base game content isn’t stupid? Okay.
do all base game maps reset every 2 hours? no? then it isnt stupid.
Okay my bad, then make it 2 hours for base game as well. DR kicks in WAY SOONER on base.
ill be honest the only map i farm thats not HOT is sw. and since it doesnt have dr on the bags bots farm it all day. they are free accounts and latch on to a single character and copy their every attack and every move.this is why diminishing returns are required. im seeing 5-10 bots per map constantly.of course reporting them does nothing. ill keep doing it anyway
You do know bots can log out, & go to different instances, correct? All this does is effect REAL players. You can never stop bots in any video game out there EVER. The sooner that’s realized the better.
logging out doesnt reset dr. nor does changing instances. its a moot point.
im bad at sarcasm