Guild Wars 2

It’s amazing.

Well done.

Great video too.

Video was 100% better than DH’s. Thank you.

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raeper is full of possibilities.

Dragonhunter is not.

Reaper fits the genre of the class.

Dragonhunter does not.

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

Dragonhunter is.

Reaper is pretty generic. I would have liked Wraith better. But at least it is not as “high concept” (contain your laughter please) as the Dragon Hunter.

This really is the sort of name you get when you accept the very first suggestion that someone in the office shouts.

Project lead: “I would like to open the discussion for the name of the new necromancer specialization….”
Random dev: “REAPER!!!”
Project lead: “Alright, reaper it is! Lets go with that!”

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

It’s a little boring, maybe, but it makes sense, given the context of the class, and it appears to be more of an extension of the necromancer, instead of just throwing warrior mechanics at its face and calling it a Dragonbrawler.

More like:
“After the reception of ‘Dragonhunter’, perhaps we should re-think the name ‘Death Blossom’…”

And yet Dragonhunter makes sense for a Guardian as well, seeing as one of the parts of being a hunter is hunting down dangerous beasts that threatens the people/community. Which is exactly what the Guardian is all about.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Reaper is pretty generic. I would have liked Wraith better. But at least it is not as “high concept” (contain your laughter please) as the Dragon Hunter.

This really is the sort of name you get when you accept the very first suggestion that someone in the office shouts.

Project lead: “I would like to open the discussion for the name of the new necromancer specialization….”
Random dev: “REAPER!!!”
Project lead: “Alright, reaper it is! Lets go with that!”

Good thing he shouted that out over the whispered “Vinehunter” suggestion.

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

No less generic a name then warrior or guardian. That wasn’t the problem with DH though. People calling the DH name “generic” where just poorly articulating the issue with it.
Reaper follows the established, expected, and desired naming convention, and is thematically compatible with the profession and elite spec, without overstepping it’s bounds and treading on the territory of another class.
Therefore, it’s good.

lordkrall.7241:

And yet Dragonhunter makes sense for a Guardian as well, seeing as one of the parts of being a hunter is hunting down dangerous beasts that threatens the people/community. Which is exactly what the Guardian is all about.

No, it doesn’t. It’s meant to be “evocative of a medieval witch hunter”, but it fails on that front because it also carries the theme of being a “big game hunter”, which is nothing like a witch hunter, and even further from how a Guardian is supposed to feel. The Reaper also, by the looks of it, is bringing something new to the table, and hopefully won’t be a simple rehash of an existing class and build like the Guardian is getting.

lordkrall.7241:

Which is exactly what the Guardian is all about.

No. No it’s not.

And even if it /were/, why should they get a name so blatantly “what it’s all about”? Why isn’t Druid actually called “Jungle-learned” then?

BACK ON TOPIC OF HOW AWSESOME REAPER IS:

That sword! It’s the same one from the concept art! So jelly~~~~ That hood too. <3!

Like the hood is what a reaper would wear. :o And the skills MATCH the aim of the specialization. Like, the necro becomes a reaper.

Was I the only one thinking “Mordrem Slasher?!”

Oh yeah, reaper. It was kinda expected. Generic a bit, but I couldn’t think more of a fitting name.

Shk. Dragonhunter.

lordkrall.7241:

And yet Dragonhunter makes sense for a Guardian as well, seeing as one of the parts of being a hunter is hunting down dangerous beasts that threatens the people/community. Which is exactly what the Guardian is all about.

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

Sorin.4310:

lordkrall.7241:

And yet Dragonhunter makes sense for a Guardian as well, seeing as one of the parts of being a hunter is hunting down dangerous beasts that threatens the people/community. Which is exactly what the Guardian is all about.

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted point-blank range traps as a dragon hunter….

FTFY

Sorin.4310:

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

You think we ever get to fight other dragons than Mordremoth and Zhaitan?
That is a bit optimistic.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sorin.4310:

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

You think we ever get to fight other dragons than Mordremoth and Zhaitan?
That is a bit optimistic.

We will be going after Mordy for two years at least at this rate.

Alice.5360:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sorin.4310:

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

You think we ever get to fight other dragons than Mordremoth and Zhaitan?
That is a bit optimistic.

We will be going after Mordy for two years at least at this rate.

Or we will get “press 2 to win” in the end of new personal story

You can’t say [merged] if it is not actually merged by a moderator.

Reaper is good. Nothing to say about that. A bit bit generic maybe, but whatever… It works.

TheRandomGuy.7246:

Alice.5360:

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sorin.4310:

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

You think we ever get to fight other dragons than Mordremoth and Zhaitan?
That is a bit optimistic.

We will be going after Mordy for two years at least at this rate.

Or we will get “press 2 to win” in the end of new personal story

Nope, We’ll do the same what we did with Tower of Nightmares. Inject funny elixir to Mordremoth’s heart (aka Heart of Thorns) and it will explode. Instead of cannonballs we will soon syringe with this yummy liqueur till Mordy dies. After that you will change your minds that Zhaitan’s final encounter is far better, so it can be considered as fixed.

Ojyh.9842:

You can’t say [merged] if it is not actually merged by a moderator.

Reaper is good. Nothing to say about that. A bit bit generic maybe, but whatever… It works.

I was poking fun but I edited it for you. Wasn’t impersonating a mod, just parodying the Dragonhunter thread.

Based on the information we know so far I would suggest the following names:

Turtlemancer
Ping-pongmancer
CC’dmancer
Blinded-mancer
No-PvEmancer

These would all be more accurate descriptions of the specialization.

Awesome! – lets hope it plays as awesome as it appears to be.

great name (you know what you are and what you get) , nice video.

lordkrall.7241:

And yet Dragonhunter makes sense for a Guardian as well, seeing as one of the parts of being a hunter is hunting down dangerous beasts that threatens the people/community. Which is exactly what the Guardian is all about.

It’s alright, just let it go. Seems like majority of players expect all elite specializations to be a natural progression of the base class.

It will happen again when the next round of elite specs come and another profession gets a spec that isn’t a progression of the last elite spec.

I bet a lot of arguments would be something like “This doesn’t make sense, a Ranger goes from a Druid to a Swordsman!? Rangers are already Swordsman!” Even though the spec would be focused on a more melee Ranger.

They were gonna go with the name, “Dark Emo Death Blade Wielder” but got gun shy after the DH naming debacle.

Worst Elite specialization hands down. It basically takes everything the necromancer already did, adds nothing new, then makes them melee and even slower then before. So basically, they’re just as parasitic as before and just as bad as before.

Generic but it fits very well with what they were doing

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Its not that dragonhunter is generic.. its that it sounds like a dev gave his 5 year old son a minute to come up with the guard spec name.

Zetsumei.4975:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Its not that dragonhunter is generic.. its that it sounds like a dev gave his 5 year old son a minute to come up with the guard spec name.

And Reaper is better on that regard?

RabbitUp.8294:

Zetsumei.4975:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Its not that dragonhunter is generic.. its that it sounds like a dev gave his 5 year old son a minute to come up with the guard spec name.

And Reaper is better on that regard?

Its playing it safe in my opinion, and I would’ve complained about wanting banshee or wraith but then they gave us a kitteng dervish scythe

RabbitUp.8294:

Zetsumei.4975:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Its not that dragonhunter is generic.. its that it sounds like a dev gave his 5 year old son a minute to come up with the guard spec name.

And Reaper is better on that regard?

Please stop. There are obvious reasons why people don’t like Dragonhunter. Reasons that do not apply to the name Reaper. Mostly, it’s that it isn’t conceptually jarring and it doesn’t needlessly break established conventions.

Alice.5360:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raeper is full of possibilities.

Dragonhunter is not.

Reaper fits the genre of the class.

Dragonhunter does not.

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

Dragonhunter is.

You appear to confuse your personal, subjective opinion, with that of actual objective fact.

Always makes me life when folks dishonestly word their opinions as if it were fact, then disingenuously make claims about it.

I would love for you to definitively explain offer some facts proving your claim about possibilities.

A rose by any other name, and all that…………..The profession is still the same, and plays the same, regardless of a name.

Alice.5360:

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

As a matter of fact it is two words mashed together.

er : person occupationally connected with <furrier> <lawyer> …………one that does or performs (a specified action) <batter> —sometimes added to both elements of a compound <builder-upper>

reap : to cut with a sickle, scythe, or reaping machine

When the two words are smashed together, it means “one who reaps, or one who uses a reaper”

Just one more example of uninformed posters, making uninformed claims, I guess.

Einlanzer.1627:

RabbitUp.8294:

Zetsumei.4975:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Its not that dragonhunter is generic.. its that it sounds like a dev gave his 5 year old son a minute to come up with the guard spec name.

And Reaper is better on that regard?

Please stop. There are obvious reasons why people don’t like Dragonhunter. Reasons that do not apply to the name Reaper. Mostly, it’s that it isn’t conceptually jarring and it doesn’t needlessly break established conventions.

Nothing is obvious about it in my opinion. As I see it, it is petty posters crying because they didn’t get the name they preconceived in their own heads, but that is simply my opinion.

Einlanzer.1627:

Please stop. There are obvious reasons why people don’t like Dragonhunter. Reasons that do not apply to the name Reaper. Mostly, it’s that it isn’t conceptually jarring and it doesn’t needlessly break established conventions.

You don’t get to call when someone’s allowed to like or dislike a name. I responded to a specific criticism about the name, you have no right to put words in our mouths, or substitute the original complain with your own.

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raged?

How did I miss that?

Gibson.4036:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raged?

How did I miss that?

The thread about the Dragonhunter name on this page with 1356 posts? Idk, how did you miss it?

coglin.1867:

Alice.5360:

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

As a matter of fact it is two words mashed together.

er : person occupationally connected with <furrier> <lawyer> …………one that does or performs (a specified action) <batter> —sometimes added to both elements of a compound <builder-upper>

reap : to cut with a sickle, scythe, or reaping machine

When the two words are smashed together, it means “one who reaps, or one who uses a reaper”

Just one more example of uninformed posters, making uninformed claims, I guess.

Technically, that’s a root word and a suffix, not two words.
Whereas Dragonhunter is actually a compound word.

Anyway, I’ll agree with the commentary above. Reaper is expected and safe, but it’s also a good fit for what is expected of Necromancer and gives the Death Shroud another use. (I don’t really use it normally, so.. yeah.)

I’ll let the actual Dragonhunter name thread stand as my list of reasons why it doesn’t work.

RabbitUp.8294:

Einlanzer.1627:

Please stop. There are obvious reasons why people don’t like Dragonhunter. Reasons that do not apply to the name Reaper. Mostly, it’s that it isn’t conceptually jarring and it doesn’t needlessly break established conventions.

You don’t get to call when someone’s allowed to like or dislike a name. I responded to a specific criticism about the name, you have no right to put words in our mouths, or substitute the original complain with your own.

Except I didn’t. That’s what you did and I simply called you on it. Projection much?

Alice.5360:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raeper is full of possibilities.

Dragonhunter is not.

Reaper fits the genre of the class.

Dragonhunter does not.

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

Dragonhunter is.

For me it was like, how exactly does dragon hunting thematically fit in with guardians which thematically are holy knights?

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Sorin.4310:

Yes I can’t wait to hunt down bubbles with my longbow and ground targeted traps as a dragon hunter….

You think we ever get to fight other dragons than Mordremoth and Zhaitan?
That is a bit optimistic.

He has a name, it’s Steve!

Mar.4839:

It’s alright, just let it go. Seems like majority of players expect all elite specializations to be a natural progression of the base class.

It’s not an unreasonable expectation…

coglin.1867:

Nothing is obvious about it in my opinion. As I see it, it is petty posters crying because they didn’t get the name they preconceived in their own heads, but that is simply my opinion.

But just because you don’t understand something it doesn’t follow that it’s illogical, silly or naturally confusing. I find that people don’t always get that.

coglin.1867:

Alice.5360:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Raeper is full of possibilities.

Dragonhunter is not.

Reaper fits the genre of the class.

Dragonhunter does not.

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

Dragonhunter is.

You appear to confuse your personal, subjective opinion, with that of actual objective fact.

Always makes me life when folks dishonestly word their opinions as if it were fact, then disingenuously make claims about it.

I would love for you to definitively explain offer some facts proving your claim about possibilities.

A rose by any other name, and all that…………..The profession is still the same, and plays the same, regardless of a name.

Alice.5360:

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

As a matter of fact it is two words mashed together.

er : person occupationally connected with <furrier> <lawyer> …………one that does or performs (a specified action) <batter> —sometimes added to both elements of a compound <builder-upper>

reap : to cut with a sickle, scythe, or reaping machine

When the two words are smashed together, it means “one who reaps, or one who uses a reaper”

Just one more example of uninformed posters, making uninformed claims, I guess.

Einlanzer.1627:

RabbitUp.8294:

Zetsumei.4975:

lordkrall.7241:

So… how is Reaper any less generic than the Dragonhunter, which people raged like mad about being so generic?

Its not that dragonhunter is generic.. its that it sounds like a dev gave his 5 year old son a minute to come up with the guard spec name.

And Reaper is better on that regard?

Please stop. There are obvious reasons why people don’t like Dragonhunter. Reasons that do not apply to the name Reaper. Mostly, it’s that it isn’t conceptually jarring and it doesn’t needlessly break established conventions.

Nothing is obvious about it in my opinion. As I see it, it is petty posters crying because they didn’t get the name they preconceived in their own heads, but that is simply my opinion.

“-er” is not a word, lol. Just because it isn’t obvious to you doesn’t mean it isn’t obvious period. There is a conceptual disconnect that was unexpected both in the context of the Guardian class and in the context of class/spec names/concepts in general. That is a fact.

The only opinion is whether you like it or not. Most people don’t, probably because most people like cohesion and uniformity and dislike needless deviations from convention and names that sound like they came from the head of a 7 year old.

coglin.1867:

Alice.5360:

Reaper is not two words mashed together.

As a matter of fact it is two words mashed together.

er : person occupationally connected with <furrier> <lawyer> …………one that does or performs (a specified action) <batter> —sometimes added to both elements of a compound <builder-upper>

reap : to cut with a sickle, scythe, or reaping machine

When the two words are smashed together, it means “one who reaps, or one who uses a reaper”

Just one more example of uninformed posters, making uninformed claims, I guess.

“-er” is a suffix, not a word. Please don’t lecture others about improper grammar if you do not understand it yourself.

the idea of spec is cool, the name is cool, the video was gergeous

Gee guys. Reapers kill things. Don’t we all kill things? Aren’t we all reapers? I’m confused!

Becka Williams.4978:

Gee guys. Reapers kill things. Don’t we all kill things? Aren’t we all reapers? I’m confused!

It’s high concept. You wouldn’t understand.

Talonblaze.3175:

Becka Williams.4978:

Gee guys. Reapers kill things. Don’t we all kill things? Aren’t we all reapers? I’m confused!

It’s high concept. You wouldn’t understand.

Actually it suppoused to be Dragonroarer, but they forgot to edit the placeholder name put in the article. So sad.

Since the discussion in this thread has derailed and is no longer constructive this thread is now closed.