Guild Wars 2

Say Anet do everything they do like before HoT expansion release. Video, blog and allow beta if prepurchase. Will you prepurchase? Curious.

Most likely. I’m rather pleased with Heart of Thorns overall. There are a couple things they could have handled better (guild hall upgrades, namely. Basic ones should be much cheaper with more advanced getting more of the cost shifted to them), but overall, I’d say they delivered.

No way. HoT totally screwed me. They turned the game into a grind. I think it’s unlikely I’ll still be playing when their next expansion comes out.

And pre-purchase was harmful. If I had waited, I could have seen the torrent of dumb things they did, and I wouldn’t have bought it at all. It wasn’t that it was too much money. It’s that it was a decidedly negative addition to the game, but now I’m stuck with it.

Daddicus.6128:

No way. HoT totally screwed me. They turned the game into a grind. I think it’s unlikely I’ll still be playing when their next expansion comes out.

And pre-purchase was harmful. If I had waited, I could have seen the torrent of dumb things they did, and I wouldn’t have bought it at all. It wasn’t that it was too much money. It’s that it was a decidedly negative addition to the game, but now I’m stuck with it.

Again stop calling time consuming progression grind, if you call playing in jungle grind then you might as well call every single rpg ever grind.

To answer the OP of course I would, Having a blast playing HoT. I played so much since release yet still have so much to do and still having so much fun everywhere.

In a heartbeat.

Yes. I’m enjoying it. It could be finer tuned in spots but I like the overall shape of it.

I will. (Provided I have a computer to run it.)

Yes for sure. HoT is really really good!

Qugi.2653:

Say Anet do everything they do like before HoT expansion release. Video, blog and allow beta if prepurchase. Will you prepurchase? Curious.

Simple answer : No

Keep in mind,most of those people saying how they are hyped and how they love HoT,its kind of people who love game because its free,and they are going to defend it with their life.

Not unless ANet pulls a 180 on their design intent.

Probably not.

Anet did a pretty solid job of teaching me that, no matter how much you think you can trust a given developer, it is a bad idea to prepurchase.

Werdx.2059:

Qugi.2653:

Say Anet do everything they do like before HoT expansion release. Video, blog and allow beta if prepurchase. Will you prepurchase? Curious.

Simple answer : No

Keep in mind,most of those people saying how they are hyped and how they love HoT,its kind of people who love game because its free,and they are going to defend it with their life.

Most of the people who enjoy HoT are the ones who would rather play then come on the forums and unload. I for one would never pre purchase an xpac. That being said, I’m enjoy HoT. Gliding is awesome.

Werdx.2059:

Keep in mind,most of those people saying how they are hyped and how they love HoT,its kind of people who love game because its free,and they are going to defend it with their life.

1) HoT is not free.

2) Might not be a bad idea to refrain from deciding what, “kind of people,” others are and defining their motives for them.

Werdx.2059:

Qugi.2653:

Say Anet do everything they do like before HoT expansion release. Video, blog and allow beta if prepurchase. Will you prepurchase? Curious.

Simple answer : No

Keep in mind,most of those people saying how they are hyped and how they love HoT,its kind of people who love game because its free,and they are going to defend it with their life.

Really? All these people didn’t spend a dime to buy the game? I wonder how they (we) are able to post on the forums…must be Asuran Techno-magic!

Yep. While there are some rough edges to say the least, having a great time overall.

Hell no.

There were too many last minute surprises with this, such as the dungeon nerf and the HP cost of the elite specs. I don’t care if it sounds like they’re making my ideal expansion, I’ll be too worried and waiting for the other shoe to drop at the last moment.

I flat out don’t trust ANet at this point, so I’d have to wait and see what people say the expansion really has for me before I’d buy it.

I will only buy it after seeing a thorough accounting of its merits and shortcomings.

Only if thief gets a good spec and/or tengu are playable.

Qugi.2653:

Say Anet do everything they do like before HoT expansion release. Video, blog and allow beta if prepurchase. Will you prepurchase? Curious.

Absolutely. HoT is much better than I expected. Gliding alone is worth the cost. I’m just as challenged with HoT as I remember being when I started the game.

There are a couple of things I expected to hate and mostly those are annoying rather than terrible. The things I expected to enjoy are excellent or better.

(That said, I agree that ANet ought to do some overhaul or expectation setting, particular for collections that depend on failed events, collections that depend on bugged events, bugs or item-supply issues associated with scribing, loss of guild functionality, and fractal rewards. I’m confident that they will actually ‘fix’ about half those.)

Palador.2170:

Hell no.

There were too many last minute surprises with this, such as the dungeon nerf and the HP cost of the elite specs. I don’t care if it sounds like they’re making my ideal expansion, I’ll be too worried and waiting for the other shoe to drop at the last moment.

I flat out don’t trust ANet at this point, so I’d have to wait and see what people say the expansion really has for me before I’d buy it.

Yes really last minute, if your a 3 toed sloth. They only spoke about said change 11 days before release, you know you could have prepurchased as late as an hour before release and still get it right?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-economy/

Dungeon Rewards

Over the last couple of years, dungeons have been a major part of the game’s economy; between unique armor and liquid rewards, they’re often farmed. In the expansion, we’ll move away from this paradigm. As the game progressed, we shifted focus from dungeons to fractals and raids, and we firmly believe that fractals and raids are the content that we want to continue to support. As a part of that process, we’ll shift some rewards away from dungeons and into other pieces of content. While dungeons will remain cool experiences that’ll reward players with unique items, their liquid rewards will be reduced and other content will become more rewarding. The shift in rewards is a direct representation of our focus on raids and fractals and our commitment to make them the best they can be.

The major concern that we’re sure to face is the specific intent of dungeons as a gold-generating activity. To that effect, let’s talk about map rewards.

Edit
To answer OPs question yes I would but then I only bought this one 12 hours before it went live after soaking up all the information I could.

Pre-purchase is absolutely not on the table going forward. Given the design philosophies the “new Anet” seem interested in, I plan to be much more wary next time around.

I may or may not get the next xpac, but in any case, I won’t consider it until it’s ready to release, and probably some time post-release. I plan to be heavily invested in Crowfall by then anyway and I don’t particularly see a new GW2 xpac pulling me away. I will of course keep up with development and see how appealing it looks.

But GW2 has never quite turned out to be what I was hoping for. It never went the direction I hoped they’d go in after GW1, and it didn’t even live up to its own manifesto. I hoped HoT would finally do a lot to turn that around. But no. Instead it’s just done a lot to take things even further away from the kind of game I’ve wanted.

I’ve beaten the HoT story (which seemed rather brief and buggy) and have otherwise lost interest in grinding out masteries / elites. I have less than zero interest in raids. I feel I’ve explored the new maps pretty well and am left unsatisfied by how few and small they are. I feel “done” already, at least as much as I care to be. I feel like I wasted my money on this overpriced xpac that offered so little (of what I actually wanted). I shouldn’t have been so eager to jump on the pre-purchase when it became available.

I AM interested in seeing where the story goes in the future. The GW lore was always a big part of what hooked me to the franchise. But will I be interested enough to actually invest again? I don’t know, I may just catch a few videos on youtube and call it a day.

NO , HoT is a Backstab

If I have the money to spare and more importantly if I’m that bored. Like this time. I stopped playing at the end of LWS2. I didn’t even read one word of changes before buying it 20 days ago.
I didn’t read anything because I know Anet well enough to be completely uninterested in their hype trains and their extremely careful choosing of words. So I had extremely low expectations and luckily HoT was above it.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Not unless ANet pulls a 180 on their design intent.

After all this time, what exactly do you consider to be "their design "? Because GW2 changed directions quite a lot since it was announced.

If it is the quality and direction of HoT.

Most unlikely.

Probably not.

There are two many forced group content for my playstyle in HoT, a lot of HP, a lot of events and I dont like that. I love the difficulty but I hate when I’m blocked just because there is no one or not enough people around.

Furthermore I don’t like the new guild system. I have a family guild of 3-4 people and we feel betrayed by Aneth in HoT.

So yes I wont prepurchased it. Will probably wait to another game more like GW1, more CORPG.

Best regards.

Bahan

Werdx.2059:

Qugi.2653:

Say Anet do everything they do like before HoT expansion release. Video, blog and allow beta if prepurchase. Will you prepurchase? Curious.

Simple answer : No

Keep in mind,most of those people saying how they are hyped and how they love HoT,its kind of people who love game because its free,and they are going to defend it with their life.

This people don’t agree with me, so therefore these people must have some rationalization other than they like the game. Give me a break. 200 people in my guild and very very few of them have issues with HoT. Everyone is just rationalizing because you don’t like it.

What a silly comment. I’ve played most subscription MMOs and I pay more in the gem store than I would in those. I have plenty of money. Money isn’t the reason I choose any game.

So you should probably stick to stating your opinion instead of judging other people for stating theirs.

I’ll preorder if I like what I see, which is what I did with HoT. I haven’t been disappointed so far.

Well I’ve had a lot of fun playing HoT since it came out, but now I’ve hit the wall and realised I have no more realistic objectives to aim towards…..so maybe not pre-purchase so that I see what the shortcomings/merits are first. I’m not sure if enough people will be playing by then tho, to warrant another expansion. Unless Anet listen to people’s complaints and modify HoT before many people leave the game.

If I’m still playing by then I probably will!
I liked HoT, the only thing I disliked was that alot of people left WvW leaving it rather quiet. But I guess it’ll recover somewhat with time.
And besides, I think all the chaotic things that happened pre-release and all the bad things are things that A-net has learned from now; Now they cna make next one a little better!

I will absolutely and without hesitation pre-purchase the next expansion. Just as I did this one.

Molesworth.1684:

Well I’ve had a lot of fun playing HoT since it came out, but now I’ve hit the wall and realised I have no more realistic objectives to aim towards…..so maybe not pre-purchase so that I see what the shortcomings/merits are first. I’m not sure if enough people will be playing by then tho, to warrant another expansion. Unless Anet listen to people’s complaints and modify HoT before many people leave the game.

You’re kidding yourself if you think this will happen. Yes, some people will leave, and they’ll be replaced by other people. That’s the way the genre works. HoT may not fit certain groups of players. Maybe those who are in a guild of 2, who want to get a guild hall, will feel disenfranchised and leave. Maybe those who are so casual they feel the jungle will always be beyond them will leave. Maybe some who thing masteries are grinding will leave.

But all those groups together probably aren’t as large as the number of people who left when ascended gear was introduced.

And not all of the people who leave will stay gone forever either.

People start playing and people come back.

Especially now that free to play exists, and most people will try the game and some of those will buy HoT.

I have every reason to believe the player count will go up, now down, because Anet removed the barrier of purchasing the game to try it. It’s bound to get new players.

People who don’t like it will leave, just like in any game. But if just as many people start playing and some of those come back, the game will be fine.

People said the game would die when ascended gear was introduced. They were wrong. They said it would die when new games came out (Archeage, ESO, Wildstar, Neverwinter). They were wrong.

And your prediction that the game will fail because some people don’t like it…that’s likely to be wrong too.

Nope.

/15 charr conga line

Nay. Unless it’s more of vanilla GW2, expanding to other land areas of lore, and only requiring blue armor to adventure. I’d pay a subscription for that. (My guardian made it to 80 in blue armor.)

But based on ANet’s push to totally deviate from vanilla GW2 so far, and driving more sale in gems, I doubt it will happen.

I’ve played GW since early 2006 and enjoyed it immensely until HoT, so I’m sorry to say but HoT was probably the last part of the GW games I bought.

I can say with certainty that i will never pre-purchase, pre-order, early access, pay for beta tests on any game ever again. Been burned too many times and its bad for the industry and consumer.

I will if they announce that they’re working on how poorly the game uses multiple CPU cores.

Most likely no.

I had a lot of trust in Anet before HoT came out and prepurchased it immediately. Sadly, not anymore.

Anet would need to work very hard to regain my trust.

Based on what HoT taught me? Highly unlikely

To be honest probably not. The exchange rate currently with usd → aud is atrocious.

No. Why?

Bad:

Unfinished expansion (more like feature pack).
Grindy and bad content.
Rewards are crap.
No new dungeons and fractals. (nerfed dungeons & unrewarding fractals)
Nerfing of everything that gives players some gold. (casual unfriendly)
Few HoT armor and weapon skins from events and similar, many gem shop skins.
Story.
Only 3 legendaries (not available from the start).
Precursor crafting need events to fail.
Bugs.
Lags.
Everything is gold sink. (very bad for new players)

Good:

Elite spec gives something new and fresh.
Beautiful maps (wvw and HoT maps)
Good looking legendary skins.(so far)
Raids (yet to discover)
???

Maybe, but only if they are more transparent about what will be in and happening to the game post launch.

If what we got in Hot is the direction anet are taking the game then im out.
way to grndy and far to little rewards.And 2 weeks on lfg and gw2community ts
only to notch up more than 20 straight fails at a broken TD meta.The epax has brought nothing but anger and frustration in to what was a pretty relaxing and chilled out game.

Nope. Never pre-purchase anything. I did jump the gun and eventually caved and got the expansion – but am regretting it now. Only playing so I can at least delude myself I got my $60 worth.

I have ever preordered all guild wars games / add ons. But after the bad druid joke, I don’t know what to do. I will buy the next expansion for sure, but I think I will not preorder, just to give a sign. In the forum, there will nobody hear you crying.

But maybe if more will buy it without preordering, colin will just say it is another great launch, cause more people were buying at launch -.-

Nope. I’m probably done with GW2 after i finish HoT story. If i’ll able to tolerate it. GW2 is just not for me anymore – i hate new maps, hate metroidvania-like design, hate difficulty, hate one-shot mechanics, and hate insufferable amount of grind. And after playing new games GW2 looks so dated. Also it’s really a shame that Jeremy Soule didn’t write music for the expansion.

I don’t think so.

Poor base content and nothing new untill mid january, still lots of things appearing on the cash shop, and now this new direction with the raids in which they are pushing the community to an extreme elitist behaviour therefore excluding the vast majority of the players

It wouldn’t be a problem if raids was the elite content, while dungeons and fractals were created at the same time.
They have killed dungeons and decided not to make any new, they didn’t make any new fractal, but created content which can almost only be made with your guild.

I play a game to play, not to wait that my guild decides to make this content or to wait dozens of minutes to find a correct group via the inappropriate LFG system.

Except if they change this new state of mind, I am pretty sure I won’t prepurchase the next expansion pack.

Probably not. Once the next expansion comes out I’ll likely take that as my cue to just walk away. Essentially the B2P equivalent of not re-subbing.

I think Anet’s actions have made it painfully clear that I’m not their target demographic. They wanted the WoW audience, like so many other failed developers who were blinded by that big money prospect. However, I am not the WoW audience and I will never be the WoW audience. If I wanted to be playing WoW, I’d be playing WoW. So I see no reason to continue forward once we reach a natural point of divergence.

I don’t want raids. I don’t want obnoxious gear grinds. I don’t want to pay $50-$100 USD for four hours of story content so shallow that the development team recognised it before launch and tried to artificially bulk out the duration with time gates from masteries. I don’t want more time gates in general. I don’t want a game with so many bugs that it feels like it never went through QA. I don’t to play a game designed by people who apparently think endgame translates to “endless grinding”.

I could do this all day but ultimately, as a product, Guild Wars 2 has never been worth the money I’ve sunk into it. There are still things I like, the music is lovely and the visuals are gorgeous. I would even enjoy the story if it weren’t so often handled in a hamfisted, amateurish manner. The potential is there but then it just nosedives straight into the ground.

I’ll stick around for now and continue playing with my friends, but once Anet give me an out, they’ve convinced me I should take it.

Tapioca.9062:

Probably not. Once the next expansion comes out I’ll likely take that as my cue to just walk away. Essentially the B2P equivalent of not re-subbing.

I think Anet’s actions have made it painfully clear that I’m not their target demographic. They wanted the WoW audience, like so many other failed developers who were blinded by that big money prospect. However, I am not the WoW audience and I will never be the WoW audience. If I wanted to be playing WoW, I’d be playing WoW. So I see no reason to continue forward once we reach a natural point of divergence.

I don’t want raids. I don’t want obnoxious gear grinds. I don’t want to pay $50-$100 USD for four hours of story content so shallow that the development team recognised it before launch and tried to artificially bulk out the duration with time gates from masteries. I don’t want more time gates in general. I don’t want a game with so many bugs that it feels like it never went through QA. I don’t to play a game designed by people who apparently think endgame translates to “endless grinding”.

I could do this all day but ultimately, as a product, Guild Wars 2 has never been worth the money I’ve sunk into it. There are still things I like, the music is lovely and the visuals are gorgeous. I would even enjoy the story if it weren’t so often handled in a hamfisted, amateurish manner. The potential is there but then it just nosedives straight into the ground.

I’ll stick around for now and continue playing with my friends, but once Anet give me an out, they’ve convinced me I should take it.

The out is just over there points at door you said it yourself your not paying a sub so no reason to feel you have to play if your so against it, that it seems from this post.

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