Guild Wars 2

Not to mesh your discussion up, I don’t know that much about GW lore yet, so I’m not going to make a list. But if you make a top 3 list, should you not make an assume about what dragon will be fought in the expansion the race will be released. Like if we are going to fight jormag in that expansion a southern race like tengu would not be very likely, keeping in mind that jormag porbally will be fought against in the far shiver peeks. While if we will fight the crystal dragon, tengu might be and option (as i did understand it right they live in the continent under the crystal desert). Dee sea dragon did not wake up yet, so it’s not every likey will will fight him in the next expansion. Than we have the fire dragon left, but it’s not really clear to me where he did wake up, my first assessment was in the ring of fire, but not 100% sure of that anymore.

You know, I really don’t get why folks believe that each Elder Dragon will get their own expansion – or each expansion getting their own playable race.

Also: the deep sea dragon DID wake up – 50 years (approximately) before GW2. It’s what drove the quaggan, krait, largos, and karka from the deep seas. The dragon that might not have woken up is the sixth unknown one (but then again, Primordus was pushed back 50 years, so it might have awakened at the same time as Primordus did). And Primordus awoke underground.

1_ Mursaat
2_ Margonites
3_ Largos

The only problem is that these three races are way too cool compared to the playable ones as of now.

I’m just hoping they won’t release the Tengus as a playable one, too lame.

Tengu maybe Canthan expansion
Heket/Hylek maybe Elona expansion
Largos dont know where to put these

1) Skritt

2) Largos

3) Kodan

Edenfer.9816:

1_ Mursaat
2_ Margonites
3_ Largos

The only problem is that these three races are way too cool compared to the playable ones as of now.

I’m just hoping they won’t release the Tengus as a playable one, too lame.

Mursaat? would your character be invisible to other players unless they have ascended gear? lol. WaAay too powerful/god like to be playable. Plus weren’t they all defeated?
Margonites (some one else pointed out too) would definitely be something worth seeing! They’d work mechanically (maybe not the winged varieties), and have a great back story. I’m totally behind that.
These three races are way too cool… I agree, but suspect even if they weren’t all kinds of people would play a new race simply because its new, cool or not. And others would just play their mains they already have for simplicity, again, cool or not.
I’m really curious as to what stopped them from having the tengu in the game in the first place. Did they run into problems? simply not have enough time to finish them? or are they just holding out for an expansion?

Quiznos.4296:

Mursaat? would your character be invisible to other players unless they have ascended gear? lol. WaAay too powerful/god like to be playable. Plus weren’t they all defeated?

First of all lol, the invisible bit made me laugh.

I’m thinking that some of the Mursaat them could have escaped/survived their race’s slaughter. They remained hidden to regroup, start over and maybe plot their vengeance

The dragon’s awakening and specially their consumption of magic saps most of their powers and makes them less godly. Now they decide to reveal themselves to the other races in order to survive.

Come on, it could work ^^

“plot their vengeance” would make them too “dark.” Anet won’t design a game with depth. So if you want to be anything other than a bumbling disney prince hero forget it.

As for dragons saping power… I’m not sure about that. Seems they almost exude it. Too much of it corrupts, but more is definitely being put out there.

Also, would you really want to fight corrupt mursaat? fts
and for that matter “corrupt mursaat” seems a bit redundant.

Basically it goes back to “they’d be too cool.” And the player base can’t have nice things we always complain about them and/or break them

Edenfer.9816:

Quiznos.4296:

Mursaat? would your character be invisible to other players unless they have ascended gear? lol. WaAay too powerful/god like to be playable. Plus weren’t they all defeated?

First of all lol, the invisible bit made me laugh.

I’m thinking that some of the Mursaat them could have escaped/survived their race’s slaughter. They remained hidden to regroup, start over and maybe plot their vengeance

The dragon’s awakening and specially their consumption of magic saps most of their powers and makes them less godly. Now they decide to reveal themselves to the other races in order to survive.

Come on, it could work ^^

That’s almost just as how I imagined they’d become a playable race.
As you mentioned, the only problem is that they’d be cooler than the other races. XD

Quiznos.4296:

As for dragons saping power… I’m not sure about that. Seems they almost exude it. Too much of it corrupts, but more is definitely being put out there.

Wouldn’t rule out mursaat ever making it (lots of things can change, and the world is very big), but it’d be a gigantic lore kitten-pull for them to show up in the near future. There’d need to be some foreshadowing. And some people would probably still hate it since I’m pretty sure there’s that mystique as an unknown antagonist race…

Mystic glowy races are okay though, as long as they’re not too… um… let’s just say drow elves.

:Waves 100$ bill around:

Still waiting for those playable centaurs .

The only one I’m interested in is the Largos. Their honor, skill, unique model, and mysterious nature all draw me in.

Toxyn.9608:

The only one I’m interested in is the Largos. Their honor, skill, unique model, and mysterious nature all draw me in.

Really? Because I found them hiddeously generic, culturally. Too much reading fantasy novels I guess.

Neat models though. I assume they’ll move front and center if we get a campaign expansion vs. Bubbles (dragon #5).

@Hermes.7014:
I just saw your post, yeah the ideas are pretty close.

@Quiznos.4296:
Throughout the game they state on several occasions that dragons feed on magic.

I’m thinking that maybe we shouldn’t worry about the cool factor, if the new race will appear in an expansion it’s supposed to be flashier than the original ones to increase sales and attract new players.

1. Kodan would be amazing!

2. Largos

3. Someone said something about a Margonite (which not playing GW1 I have never heard of) I looked them up and they seemed really cool.

Nike.2631:

Really? Because I found them hiddeously generic, culturally. Too much reading fantasy novels I guess.

Wait, do we know the Largos culture yet? I thought they were all mysterious still.

The one that owes Traherne an amazing debt for off-screen services blathers on about it at some length if you quiz her at every step of the personal storyline.

The master and apprentice killers out in the lake in Maelstrom add some more dialogue if you are good at swimming at the exact same speed as they do while you click [F] Talk. There was a semi-talkative one in the Karka storline. There are several near identical ambush events in most of the 50+ level zones with the same “Are you looking for a challenge? I am!” before they jump you (and in all cases I’ve been party to they bit off rather more than they chould chew…).

Its a mostly mostly Arabic inspired set of phonics attached to what is to me a bog-standard honor-bound-assassin s h t i c k.

Like I said, its possible I just read too much .

Overall the races that seem to be in discussion so far are the
Margonites
Mursaat
Dwarves
Tengu
Kodan
Centaurs
Largos
Hylek
Quaggen
somebody said something about a Naga
Skritt
Dredge

Overall I don’t see very many of these actually making it into the game as playable races whether it’d be lorical issues (which would require some bullkitten excuse to integrate them in), immersion issues, and just straight comments from the devs saying they wont do it (you don’t need to ask me where these are look throughout the thread). Overall the 3 strongest candidates I could give would be the…

Kodan- The kodan rank 2nd in my probablity due to the fact that they do seem to be giving quite a bit of attention to the storyline but its fairly ambigous leading to the idea that more should come out about the kodan whether it’d be in a kodan dominated zone or coupled with them as a another race.
Tengu- Probably the strongest candidates for the new race idea not only do they have what the kodan have but they also seem to have distinct landmarks in the game that signify doorways into Tengu lands (meaning that were pretty sure something will occur within the Tengu zone so if Anet decides to integrate a new race you can be certain the Tengu will be at the top of the list).
Largos- My weakest candidate, the information about the Largos is interesting and it may be possible to have a Largos based zone but it seems just too out there to make them a playable race the best they have for the story-centric ambiguity is some of the things you hear about the concordant (which I am interested in seeing) but again I cant be entirely sure.

Let’s have some dishonourable assassin cultures. You never see those anymore. It’s all rules and oaths and assassin guilds, where’s the dirty fighters who just murder people for money?

Son of Elias.5420:

Let’s have some dishonourable assassin cultures. You never see those anymore. It’s all rules and oaths and assassin guilds, where’s the dirty fighters who just murder people for money?

I think that’s Lion’s Arch… you just got in about a decade too late .

Son of Elias.5420:

Wait, do we know the Largos culture yet? I thought they were all mysterious still.

We don’t know much, but we do know plenty – especially if you do the Apatia storyline (the “causing others harm” fear) where you meet Sayeh.

Their society is based around hunter-killer, where the better your kills the higher societal status you have. They have apprenticeships (as seen via Master Sdias and his apprentice), and relish challenges much like the norn (Apatia uses this to convince Sayeh to help). They are honorable assassins, and when a debt is owed the two are considered linked until the payment is balanced (if you did Apatia’s storyline, you can tell Sayeh you owe her a debt for her help with Apatia and then the temple of Abaddon, where she says “You offer debt? I will take it. By the Concordat, we will be twined until our balance is made even once more.”).

Sayeh also mentions in the Apatia storyline the creed of the Tethyos Compact: track it, kill it, and bring proof. As well as explaining that the Tethyos Houses are the leading houses of the largos people, and the Concordat is a set agreement of principles the largos follows.

Slayrix.5789:

the concordant (which I am interested in seeing)

I don’t think you can see a set of principles. ^^

Son of Elias.5420:

Let’s have some dishonourable assassin cultures. You never see those anymore. It’s all rules and oaths and assassin guilds, where’s the dirty fighters who just murder people for money?

Lion’s Arch minus the Lionguard is this. More or less.

Even modern time unlike what Nike says.

It’s just pirates instead of assassins. But it’s still the same thing – a bunch of murderers.

1. Kodan. Enjoy Koda-Cola, the only truly balanced beverage on the market.

2. Tengu

3. Dwarves. Somehow, some way, dwarves.

The Mursaat. Would be bad kitten :P

1) Kodan
They are really interesting race. they look so amazing, but problem is they have white skin. but if they gonna add kodan playable in gw2. arena have to put different kodan (bear) races or something(as long its not white skin, maybe brown or something color?).

2) Underwater race
Yeah. I wanna see underwater race. I not mean Quaggan’s. Maybe alligators or lizards or anything what lives in underwater. I wanna REALLY see that coming.

3) Tengu
Birds! they look pretty awesome. and I hope they gonna be add them as playable too.

•LARGOS. I really like how they look..

The problem with Tengu is that they are still a land based race. If Anet is going the bird route, I would really love a race that can actually fly. It would be more like hovering of course. But it would still be cool.

Same reason why I love a 4 legged race.

The main reason why you won’t see Anet go those routes though is because of the armor that’s been set up in game. Think about it. For every margonite, harpy, centaur, or naga they would have to completely redesign some of the armor due to how strange most of these bodies are set up. From tail, to no legs, to more animalistically exaggerated than the charr, to the potential of having 4 arms, it puts too much variation on the armor that they’d likely stop looking like the armor for any of the other races.

Personally I’ve grown fond of the Hylek, but I try not to get my hopes up on seeing them in game as a playable race mainly because they’ve stated in a book how they were the poster child of having fun with armor that didn’t have to conform to the 5 playable races.

Tengu due to them already having a large history and detailed lore from GW1.

I think Kodan is very unlikely due to the lack of the history and lore, and forgive me but the fail to interest me whatsoever.

Palawa Jokos undead a possibility but I feel that they will be the main “enemy” story due to the many referances already made in game.

Elonian Centaur seems to be most likely to me for Elona, they aren’t the horrid centaurs raging through Queensdale, they are more peaceful….Zhedd <3

Plus I do beleive I read somewhere it was even planned a playable race in the years of development.

CHIPS.6018:

The problem with Tengu is that they are still a land based race. If Anet is going the bird route, I would really love a race that can actually fly. It would be more like hovering of course. But it would still be cool.

Eh, unlikely. Jumping puzzles and all.

Dwarves please!!!!!!

Almost every other fantasy mmo has them playable…. I want it here too!

Honestly, that’s more of a reason not to have them than anything. There’s a reason we don’t have elves, you know.

I think having centaurs or harpies or undead is very unlikely because they are already enemies of the 5 races and the story is about the 5 races uniting together to fight the elder dragons . I think it would be awesome to have more races but they have to be some of the friendly unplayable races . Unless of course we get a second faction which is quite pointless since we already have WvW and that’s 3 world bashing siege . Logically Tengu is the most possible race atm ( IMO ) . But I think we should also have more classes as well. like every expansion 1 race 1 class ? – that would be awesome in my opinion .

1)Margonites
2)Experimental accidents (something like a sentient golem or machine created by an asura)
3)Tengu

Margrave.2071:

Dwarves please!!!!!!

Almost every other fantasy mmo has them playable…. I want it here too!

Dwarves have all turned to stone and disappeared, the only one still there we know of is ogden. They are in the game as a relic of the past, the chance they become playable is 0.00000000000001%

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981:

Dwarves. Somehow, some way, dwarves.

This. This so much. This-this-this-thisthisthisthis.

Yes, they’re a stock fantasy staple, but I love the idea of playing Dwarves that are basically part earth-elemental, and having a-lot about their personalities and skills stem from that.

But then of-course there’s the whole thing about how they don’t, individually, have so much personality anymore, just a Great Dwarf collective conscience. Not so sure what could cause that to change (maybe the Priory figures out how to re-imbue them with individual spark/spirit??), but I’d still love to see Dwarves as play-able race.

Obviously this is about what people want, but we also gotta be a little realistic. First off and most importantly: can race x feasibly be all classes? This is what GW2 revolves around and if it is not the case I do not see the race becoming playable.

As much as I would love to see some of the suggestions made I don’t think they’re all feasible judging from this alone. Kodan for example. Love em, love em, love em. I think they have cool lore, just like the norn, but do I see a Kodan necromancer happening? Or a mesmer? Not really, I mean you could find some way to make it fit, but I personally don’t think it fits them. This applies to a lot of the suggestions made.

I think the most feasible one is Tengu. I wasn’t a fan of them at the beginning, but I can understand why people like them. I didn’t play GW1, but I understand the lore a bit behind them. This race seems to be able to support all classes I think and I think it would make a great addition in an expansion focussing on Cantha/Tengu/Destroyers linked together, which has probably been mentioned before.

I have a new list:

1. Mursaat
Even though I don’t see this happening because they were your enemy in Prophecies and because they only use Spectral Agonony. However I would really like to play as a Mursaat anyway.

2. Margonite
I don’t see this happening either because they are Abaddon’s servants but just look at their design!
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0a/%22Margonite%22_concept_art_1.jpg

3. Largos
This because I love playing thief and atm I’m running a human thief. This race would really fit for a thief! However if this race will be playable, I really hope they will make the wings actually useful.

Margonite look awesome indeed! Largos would be possible I think, they can support all classes at a glance and as someone earlier pointed out: they can focus on an underwater area with the combat/exploration and everything.

Jungle Grub with 100% Magic Find.

1. Tengu, would make an awesome samurai or ninja type class

2. Skritt, playing a skritt engineer or thief would be kinda cool but my skritt would be a guardian (think junk/scrap metal pieced to together to make heavy armor)

3. Kodan, because I really wannna play the coca-cola bear

The only race I would care about is the butterfly one (I don’t know what they’re called). They were my favorite from the story.

Realistic choices
1. Largos
2. Tengu
3. Ponies
Dream choices
1. Mursaat
2. Ghosts
3. Undead

MylesTheLionGomez.1496:

3. Kodan, because I really wannna play the coca-cola bear

I dunno how practical it would be to have ‘less awesome versions of Norn’ as a playable race. >_>

Tengu, because they deserve it.
Kodan, because they’re different. Even if WoW did release a bear-based expansion.
Largos, because they’re awesome.

Needs more centaur support up in here. just alter leg armor to act like barding and no one will ever know the difference.

Margrave.2071:

Dwarves please!!!!!!

Almost every other fantasy mmo has them playable…. I want it here too!

That’s a horrible reason for wanting a race to appear.

I want them because they represent a huge and epic portion of the lore that could take a huge part in defeating Primordus, and because they aren’t dead according to Ogden and could possibly one day through some lore loophole find a way to become flesh and blood again.

And if not, a stone race would just be fantastic if done right.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Also: the deep sea dragon DID wake up – 50 years (approximately) before GW2. It’s what drove the quaggan, krait, largos, and karka from the deep seas.

Just to correct you, the Largos were never driven from the Unending Ocean but in fact are still fighting these so called horrors of the deep sea dragon. If they were driven out then you would see an actual settlement such as the Quaggans and the Krait, many of them are explorers and hunters…. Mainly hunters.

I’ll make my predictions/desires known for Tengu and Largos and throw out an unmentioned idea:

Gargoyles

First: Tengu

Their capital will be mid+north Dominion of Winds. Their first starting zone, 1-15, will be south and link Caledon Forest with Sparkfly Swamp, including southern Dominion of Winds. Their second starting zone, 15-30, will cover the space between Lion’s Arch and Dominion of Winds, and include an uninstanced version of Claw Island. They’ll be added in the first expansion vs Jormag, and their personal story will be shared with the other 5 races.

Second: Naga

Added with the Cantha/Bubbles expansion, with a new and unique personal story.

Third: Heket

Not sure about this one, but I needed a third anyway. Would come with the Elona/Kralkatorrik expansion, and have a new and unique personal story, too.

Tengus would be amazing to play. Fell in love with them since Cantha involved many of them in quest.