Guild Wars 2

I just want to discuss about this. Season 2 with new content, Mordremoth, new map, possible city, possible skills, i hope, and the hate of some ppl for Trahearne. Now why is Trahearne so unwanted and hated by many ppl?:D

I guess since all he does is follow the PC around and get all the credit

People. You can copy and paste that if you’re finding it hard to spell.

His name or what?:D

The reason as to why Trahearne is loathed by so many is written out at length by many players over in the Living World Discussion and Lore Discussion sub-forums. The short version was mentioned up above; we do all the work, he gets all the credit/glory/rewards/titles after having done nothing.

The players want their spotlight as the hero (we did the work of one), but all we got was barely a footnote as being “Random Person #2,319,575 that may or may not have done something to help Trahearne, the Real Hero, to save Tyria.” – Trahearne needs to cozy up to a wood chipper and not return to our story to steal our glory and trod all over our sense of accomplishment from our saving Tyria.

Here is a good image that goes around the forums that accurately displays what happened and how it affected the Players behind the Player Characters.
(contains spoiler for end of “personal story” with fighting Zhaitan – the spoiler is the “fight” itself as well as the presence of Trahearne…who spoils anything he makes himself apart of)

l0l

Such a beautiful comic

The problem with Trahearne is it was supposed our living story and the second half was actually HIS personal story. All we did was help him complete his Wild Hunt. The first half of story was great. The second half once you join his crusade sucks. He gets all the credit for everything. All our character gets known for is being second in command of the Pact.

This season of the Living World seems to deal with an Elder Dragon. Since it deals with an Elder Dragon, the pact will probably get involved. If the pact gets involved, then Spinach guy is going to get involved. Since Spinach guy is going to get involved, there will inevitably be more threads created like this. If more threads get created like this, then the true narcissists of the world will log in to tell you that you have a mental illness for wanting to be a hero in a video game….a video game where you literally play as a pact commander/general/slayer of elder dragons/Hero/etc.

Don’t call me out for predicting the future. All of this will happen and has happened in the past.

also….that comic is always good every time I look at it! If only one existed for Nightfall….

just like kormir…

Call me crazy, but… I didn’t see anything in the game like the end of that ‘comic’… If you saw anything remotely like that, then I’m afraid you might be suffering from some sort of paranoia. I guess GW1 ending is just that traumatizing… but I wouldn’t know.

Wjerd Bladeborn

No match for the Commander, you mean. To the Dragonslayer!

Rajihd

You continue to impress me, Commander. No one in any of the Tethyos Houses has ever taken down such an imposing target. I shall be watching to see what you accomplish next.

Trahearne

The world owers you a great debt, Commander. As long as I am Marshal of the Pact, I will see that debt honored.

Trahearne was a scholar who was pretty much forced to become a soldier. I dislike commenting on the writing for a video game since I don’t know how difficult it is to match it to the game but I think Trahearne’s heavy reliance on our characters was quite weakly portrayed . If they’d shown his anxiety and fear a little more then it may not have been such a problem for people at the end. I remember reading on the forums once that the personal story ended up being rushed so to be ready for the game release. That could explain things.

Anet knows people’s views on this so if LS2 goes along this vein then they will have tightened things up.

Trahearne never developed as a character despite becoming the leader of the pact, from the first moment your introduced to him until the end, hes the same boring sylvari, and to add to that he then makes you subordinate to him.

The personal quest storyline was really, really disappointing in a variety of ways.

Runescape had superior storytelling than GW2 does, and it’s a decade-old game… so that’s saying something.

In order to get people to pay attention and not always feel like skipping the “cutscenes” then we need to have real cutscenes and not this monotonous lecturing done by 2 characters standing still and chatting with watercolor backgrounds. It literally feels like a lecture instead of a story… that’s not what I call a cutscene. There have been actual cutscenes throughout the storyline, just not nearly enough that’s all.

Also, I agree with everybody about the Trahearne nonsense. As if it wasn’t bad enough to have a bland lecture of a story that lacked depth and with all of the characters forgettable with no personal connections between them and I… I find out the story is about this obnoxious NPC with terrible AI “saving” Tyria when in reality, he did jack squat and I did everything. MEH.

Oh, it’s not all bad with the Firsttwig. Yes, the voice is monotonous, but he didn’t exactly start from a place where his voice matters. The guy didn’t even socialise regularly with the living. Besides, I just don’t know where he’d fit in the time for all the elocution lessons he clearly needs.

The Firsttwig’s Wyld Hunt is not the same as the player character’s Wyld Hunt (if you’re a fellow twig; mission or whatever for everybody else). It just happens to be instrumental in allowing the completion of ours. The Hunts run tandem, and no, we’re not the only heroes (in The Secret World, they tell us this from the outset, and don’t spare our feelings. Not telling us we’re not the Chosen One? Therein lies the problem). Cause and effect, action, consequence. Things knitted together; all things are parts of the greater whole. The concept, I believe, is a good one; the execution could indeed be much better. We just needed a little more spice, added around the situations we were presented with.

So, yes, the Personal Story could have been better. But it’s too easy to say it’s all one NPC’s fault.

His AI, however, is terrible indeed. In hindsight, possibly the most fearsome thing about him. But I’ve noticed that with the NPCs as a general group (bar the necro Aria Venom, in Kessex Hills). This is where we have to suspend disbelief, to keep the gameplay "in balance". Whether we think that’s a good call, or not, is a different debate for a different thread.

Don’t forget how the choices you made never had an impact, as the second option was always completed successfully.

Also, trahearne pulling spells out his kitten for ‘just such occassions’ and becoming some uber NPC that makes you wonder ‘why am I hear again?’

Plus, we are helping HIM cleanse Orr. The pact was formed to help HIM restore it. We didn’t unite the orders, he apparently did to assist HIM in HIS wild hunt.

I tell new people to enjoy the personal till after claw island. When they ask why, I tell them ’you’ll see’.

I like Trahearne for the same reasons I like my ranger’s pets – they’re useless but sturdy and keep the enemies off my throat so I can kill them. So kudos for making Trahearne tougher than 99% of the npcs – helped me rushing my mesmer to level 65 story. Who cares if he gets the magic sword – I got my trait!

I laughed so hard when they mentioned T.

Personally, he’s just another Rurik, Togo, or Kormir. Doesn’t really bother me in the least, in fact I sort of expected it. I can only hope, that like Rurik, we get to kill him in the end. Now that’s fun.

I always loved how you’d be battling all these undead in epic battles where you’d be giving it your all just to stay on your feet and desperately trying to stay on top of the objective. When, finally, your HP down to its last pixel, your cooldowns ticking over, you’d slay the last of the monsters who almost killed you, the best hope for saving Tyria from the undead dragon and its horde. You’d be triumphant against the odds, your prowess the stuff of heroes.

And, unimpressed, bored Trahearne’s all like “Moving on.”

StinVec.3621:

The reason as to why Trahearne is loathed by so many is written out at length by many players over in the Living World Discussion and Lore Discussion sub-forums. The short version was mentioned up above; we do all the work, he gets all the credit/glory/rewards/titles after having done nothing.

The players want their spotlight as the hero (we did the work of one), but all we got was barely a footnote as being “Random Person #2,319,575 that may or may not have done something to help Trahearne, the Real Hero, to save Tyria.” – Trahearne needs to cozy up to a wood chipper and not return to our story to steal our glory and trod all over our sense of accomplishment from our saving Tyria.

Here is a good image that goes around the forums that accurately displays what happened and how it affected the Players behind the Player Characters.
(contains spoiler for end of “personal story” with fighting Zhaitan – the spoiler is the “fight” itself as well as the presence of Trahearne…who spoils anything he makes himself apart of)

that needs to be printed on a t shirt, TAKE MY MONEY!

dace.8019:

I always loved how you’d be battling all these undead in epic battles where you’d be giving it your all just to stay on your feet and desperately trying to stay on top of the objective. When, finally, your HP down to its last pixel, your cooldowns ticking over, you’d slay the last of the monsters who almost killed you, the best hope for saving Tyria from the undead dragon and its horde. You’d be triumphant against the odds, your prowess the stuff of heroes.

And, unimpressed, bored Trahearne’s all like “Moving on.”

“This will not end well”

dace.8019:

I always loved how you’d be battling all these undead in epic battles where you’d be giving it your all just to stay on your feet and desperately trying to stay on top of the objective. When, finally, your HP down to its last pixel, your cooldowns ticking over, you’d slay the last of the monsters who almost killed you, the best hope for saving Tyria from the undead dragon and its horde. You’d be triumphant against the odds, your prowess the stuff of heroes.

And, unimpressed, bored Trahearne’s all like “Moving on.”

Hahahaha he does this all the time and I noticed it too one day and was thinking to myself “…m8? You just got your kitten handed to you.”

Commander to me.

Azrael.4960:

“This will not end well”

This well wont end.

“This won’t end well”, it was.

Just wait until he shows up and says “I misinterpreted my wyld hunt, it actually was for me to cleanse the maguuma wastes”.

I think one of the large reasons Trahearne is hated so much, is largely because of gameplay as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU9H7zaD6zs

Also, he stole my sword that I used and loved before him! Give me back Caladbolg, god kitten it! Not only that, but he came in at the worst possible point in the story (right when our mentor died….)

That said, if you ask me, Master Togo was handled pretty well, and was even likeable to an extent. He had something called “character development”. When Factions began, he looked upon us as students studying under him, and even through the early Kaineng City arc, he still acted like a teacher. However, by the time we hit Echavold Forest, the player proved their strength and Master Togo looked at us like an equal, co-ordinating and organizing plans with the player to defeat Shiro. In the end, he is able to trust us enough to completely slay Shiro ourselves, as he gives his life to save his brother. (Not just that, but Master Togo was a complete baddass in the Bonus Mission pack!)

Devbo.6280:

Just wait until he shows up and says “I misinterpreted my wyld hunt, it actually was for me to cleanse the maguuma wastes”.

/me pulls out ranch dressing

Devbo.6280:

Just wait until he shows up and says “I misinterpreted my wyld hunt, it actually was for me to cleanse the maguuma wastes”.

“And at Fort Trinity, in Orr, Laranthir of the Wild, having heard tell of a connection between Scarlet and the dragons, has petitioned Marshal Trahearne of the Pact to send an airship to Lion’s Arch to investigate.”

Source: Wiki…

He is already coming from Orr to take over. Prepare for Trahearne’s story version 2.0

You guys just don’t seem to understand….. Treahearne is just an anology of real life. You do all the work, and your boss gets all the credit. Even if he wasn’t there. GW2 is just teaching us valuable life skills.

I don’t get why everyone is so butt-frustrated about Trahearne being the spotlight guy in the personal story. I found it refreshingly realistic that the player character does not, for once, become the greatest hero of the world.

PseudoNewb.5468:

Call me crazy, but… I didn’t see anything in the game like the end of that ‘comic’… If you saw anything remotely like that, then I’m afraid you might be suffering from some sort of paranoia. I guess GW1 ending is just that traumatizing… but I wouldn’t know.

Wjerd Bladeborn

No match for the Commander, you mean. To the Dragonslayer!

Rajihd

You continue to impress me, Commander. No one in any of the Tethyos Houses has ever taken down such an imposing target. I shall be watching to see what you accomplish next.

Trahearne

The world owers you a great debt, Commander. As long as I am Marshal of the Pact, I will see that debt honored.

Yeah I don’t see where people get this idea either. Trahearne never steals the Glory, he just acts as a strategist and unites everyone towards you for you to command and make final say. No respect for the dude doing all the boring but much needed side of things required to build an army. Does he even say anything like “I killed…” He always says “We” or “You” and thanks you several times. He even says he owes you for saving the world basically.

I think people just think he steals credit just cause he’s the one making the ending speech or something. Did you want to give a big speech that bad? Or maybe they are angry that they aren’t supreme leader of the Pact that he put together, even though that means staying in Orr forever instead of doing other shenanigans.

People want to beat Zaithan single handed without the pact or Trehernes strategies! If we can’t do it alone we are no heroes! …Maby :P

Trehearn is the JarJar Binks of Guild Wars. He was irritating, and less than useless. Yes he was intrumental in forming The Pact, but it really didn’t take THAT much to convince the different orders to join together. I am really surprised they hadn’t done it themselves much earlier. I mean really, the order of whispers has been around since before 1057 AE, the Priory since 1105, and the most recent Vigil since 1320, 30 years BEFORE the events in GW2. The Priory and The Orders of Whispers knew about the Elder Dragons long before ANY of them awoke. It seems kinda stupid to not have formed together beforehand to fight against them. But back to Trehearne. He is a motivational speaker, who gets the awesome sword of awesomness to deafet Zhaitan and cleanse Orr. And what does his “second in command” get? A stupid weaksauce RNG weapon that is even more useless than Trehearne. Thats what irritated me about him the most. He supposedly does all this stuff behind the scenes while we face hordes of undead single handedly, because he gets knocked out in the first encounter, and is some sort of great hero. It’s not so much about OUR personal story than it is about his, that we get to assist in.

Doggie.3184:

PseudoNewb.5468:

Call me crazy, but… I didn’t see anything in the game like the end of that ‘comic’… If you saw anything remotely like that, then I’m afraid you might be suffering from some sort of paranoia. I guess GW1 ending is just that traumatizing… but I wouldn’t know.

Wjerd Bladeborn

No match for the Commander, you mean. To the Dragonslayer!

Rajihd

You continue to impress me, Commander. No one in any of the Tethyos Houses has ever taken down such an imposing target. I shall be watching to see what you accomplish next.

Trahearne

The world owers you a great debt, Commander. As long as I am Marshal of the Pact, I will see that debt honored.

Yeah I don’t see where people get this idea either. Trahearne never steals the Glory, he just acts as a strategist and unites everyone towards you for you to command and make final say. No respect for the dude doing all the boring but much needed side of things required to build an army. Does he even say anything like “I killed…” He always says “We” or “You” and thanks you several times. He even says he owes you for saving the world basically.

I think people just think he steals credit just cause he’s the one making the ending speech or something. Did you want to give a big speech that bad? Or maybe they are angry that they aren’t supreme leader of the Pact that he put together, even though that means staying in Orr forever instead of doing other shenanigans.

This, basically…
Trahearne does not steal anyones thunder. The perception that is tossed out here on these forums that he does, makes me wonder if the people doing the majority of the QQing about it even bothered to watch the cut scenes. (I’m guessing not. That would give them one less reason to bash the game so vitriolically…)

The personality of Trahearne not withstanding (yeah, I agree, he comes off rather flat) what exactly do the people that complain about the story want?
Our characters to become the singular leader of the Pact? To be the singular hero that walked into Orr, defeated all the Risen, and killed an Elder Dragon?
Sounds to me that people want to play single-player console games rather then an online game where they have to actually >gasp< deal with other people!

PseudoNewb.5468:

Call me crazy, but… I didn’t see anything in the game like the end of that ‘comic’… If you saw anything remotely like that, then I’m afraid you might be suffering from some sort of paranoia. I guess GW1 ending is just that traumatizing… but I wouldn’t know.

Wjerd Bladeborn

No match for the Commander, you mean. To the Dragonslayer!

Rajihd

You continue to impress me, Commander. No one in any of the Tethyos Houses has ever taken down such an imposing target. I shall be watching to see what you accomplish next.

Trahearne

The world owers you a great debt, Commander. As long as I am Marshal of the Pact, I will see that debt honored.

Oh hey, I was right! Not two posts after mine, and someone is accusing Trahearne haters like me of having a mental illness. My posts aren’t ever over the top people. They just predict the future.

pdavis.8031:

Trehearn is the JarJar Binks of Guild Wars. He was irritating, and less than useless. Yes he was intrumental in forming The Pact, but it really didn’t take THAT much to convince the different orders to join together. I am really surprised they hadn’t done it themselves much earlier. I mean really, the order of whispers has been around since before 1057 AE, the Priory since 1105, and the most recent Vigil since 1320, 30 years BEFORE the events in GW2. The Priory and The Orders of Whispers knew about the Elder Dragons long before ANY of them awoke. It seems kinda stupid to not have formed together beforehand to fight against them. But back to Trehearne. He is a motivational speaker, who gets the awesome sword of awesomness to deafet Zhaitan and cleanse Orr. And what does his “second in command” get? A stupid weaksauce RNG weapon that is even more useless than Trehearne. Thats what irritated me about him the most. He supposedly does all this stuff behind the scenes while we face hordes of undead single handedly, because he gets knocked out in the first encounter, and is some sort of great hero. It’s not so much about OUR personal story than it is about his, that we get to assist in.

So Trahearne gets the Caladbolg for nothing, speaks a lot, then continues to do nothing. What do I get for all my hard work? I can’t get a Tizona, a Fragarach, a Tyrfing,….anything? No? I get a weapon that’s probably weaker than what I have right now? Well, at least its a unique skin with something that glows on it, that isn’t anymore unique than the other thousand weapon skins I already collected…..

^
Not sure if being sarcastic or not. But yeah Basically. We don’t really see him doing much at all. Other than having strategy meetings, and agreeing with the leaders of the Orders. He passes the decisions on to us as it which path to take, and then is all like
“Good idea! Glad I thought of it! I’ll send some people with you, now go take care of it. I…uhh….got important things to do here….yeah important things. Good Luck!!”

PseudoNewb.5468:

Call me crazy, but… I didn’t see anything in the game like the end of that ‘comic’… If you saw anything remotely like that, then I’m afraid you might be suffering from some sort of paranoia. I guess GW1 ending is just that traumatizing… but I wouldn’t know. <snip>

Doggie.3184:

Yeah I don’t see where people get this idea either. Trahearne never steals the Glory, he just acts as a strategist and unites everyone towards you for you to command and make final say. <snip>

ShinjoNaomi.1896:

This, basically…
Trahearne does not steal anyones thunder. <snip>

Seems like we are the minority.

Trahearne maybe have been terribly boring, but he doesn’t take credit. How is he any different from other npc’s in our personal story? As a higher rank, he is in charge of ordering us around…as for the speech, that would be like being upset that Queen Jennah makes a speech about humans uniting instead of our character.

The real issue with Trahearne is that he seems unable to make a decision for himself, he’s very uncertain, way too recluse and there isn’t really a good “bonding” moment with him. He’s very serious, almost to the point of being depressed all the time…I can’t think of him acting/feeling happy or cracking a joke at all, even at the end!

I, too, agree we will likely see more of him come LS2. Maybe he’ll be a bit more confident and lighten up just a tiny bit.

People actually wanted to keep Saladbowl? By the gods, I hated that sword and was always glad to be rid of it.

Trahearne haters always confused me. Why not be Destiny’s Edge haters? They always downed during the fights too. Trahearne does work behind the scenes and comes to you with two viable options which you choose and all of a sudden the player thinks that he made all the important decisions? Trahearne takes credit for forging the pact because he forged the pact, and for cleansing Orr because he cleansed Orr, but he specifically credits the player for defeating Zhaitan.

I think that Trahern will not be a mayor character in season 2. Since the wiki page states that he sends one of his generals to look into maters at LA. I think there will be the triforce story in some part but not traherns in general. I think it will mostly focus on the general and on us since we are the leaders of the motley crew that defended scarlet.

Zombiism.9375:

I guess since all he does is follow the PC around and get all the credit

This would mean something if he actually did that during the Personal Story.

Cormac.3871:

Trahearne haters always confused me. Why not be Destiny’s Edge haters?

I think that comes down to the Destiny’s Edge members having personality. They have a history with each other. They have made mistakes. They get character development through the story mode dungeons.

Trahearne just felt bland to me. If he has any backstory before what happened in GW2, there was no mention of it. He pulls information and spells from somewhere, with no mention of where they came from. For example, first time you’re at Claw Island. You know why you’re worried about an Orrian attack. But why is Trahearne there ?

Trahearne: I’ve researched the situation extensively. The Orrians will strike here, on Claw Island.

That’s all the explanation we get. Trahearne says the Orrians are coming. Because he did unspecified research and Trahearne is not wrong.

Or think about when you’re trapped in the tunnels and he pulls out a large group of minions. The only time he does anything necromantic and it’s more than any player necromancer can do. Then he goes and gives some line about how his minions are immune to Zhatian’s control, like it’s something special. Not something that’s also true of my minions.

There is potential for an interesting story with him. He is a scholar, not a general. Previously his wild hunt provided him the motivation to lead the pact. But that’s completed. Does he want to keep leading the Pact ?
Or does he have a conflict between his idea of duty and his desire to go back to being a scholar ?
Is he even the best person to lead the Pact ?

Plus, we’ve seen haters for Destiny’s Edge, especially Logan.

On the whole, though, it’s something I refer to as ‘Kormir syndrome’:

1. As a result of the player’s actions, a position opens up.
2. It is not practical to give that position to a PC in an MMO.
3. The position goes to an NPC ally.
4. Some players resent that ally for receiving a reward that they felt they earned, even though said reward would not be appropriate for a PC in an MMO (clearly, we can’t have a party of four Gods of Knowledge and there would be no realistic way gods could be played in the same environment as mortal PCs. Trahearne’s role in the Pact is mostly administrative and diplomatic, not exactly areas of strength for GW2 gameplay).

In Trahearne’s case, it especially didn’t help that the voice actor dropped the ball, and for players who hadn’t previously been introduced to him in sylvari storylines, he literally comes up out of nowhere and tries to fill the shoes of the order mentors – who are among the most best-loved characters.

On the whole, though, my expectation and hope for Trahearne’s role for S2 is basically that he decides his role is in Orr, puts the PC in charge, and stays out from there unless he has a very good reason not to.

It also doesn’t help one bit that so many other NPCs make such a big deal about Trahearne during the story. Oh, hey, here’s some norn who are talking about how good it is to see him. You just proved yourself to a largos, one of the weirder and more elusive races that nobody deals with? Well, that largos would be happy to help out the Pact because oh hey they’re indebted to Trahearne. Good thing you just did that quest to call in that marker for the guy, right?

There’s no one moment that makes Trahearne grate. It’s a series of little things, a persistent drone throughout the personal stories. He’s the best, he’s the chosen. It’s not about being sulky that you’re not the chosen one. I’d love to not be the chosen one because there is no chosen one. I’m much less fond of the idea when there absolutely has to be a chosen one in order to complete your “personal story,” which starts being horribly mislabeled in the latter stages. (If it weren’t called a “personal story” it might even be tolerable. Possibly.)

This happens well before the end of the personal story — if it was all just up at the end, I might’ve actually gone all the way to the end of the story on one of my characters instead of just saying “urgh, there’s probably something else I could be doing.”

Andred.1087:

I don’t get why everyone is so butt-frustrated about Trahearne being the spotlight guy in the personal story. I found it refreshingly realistic that the player character does not, for once, become the greatest hero of the world.

Honestly you still are, you’re showered with a lot more praise the people claim. Hell I imagine you become the object of a few Norn wet dreams after that.

Anyways, the real issue with Trahearne is

1. He gets the focus at a horrible time, that being just after your mentor dies. For most, they had managed to grow attached to their mentors quickly because of just how charming and well developed they were. Players don’t WANT a new character, they WANT their mentor (and friend) back.

2. Unless you are Sylvari is he shoe horned into your story with very little background info. Even with Sylvari players he leaves a lot to be desired.

3. The biggest one, he is absolutely a victim of rushed writing. He has no development, he shows no qualities of being a leader and as a result the leaders of the 3 orders honestly come off as extremely incompetent for following him. I don’t know about you guys, but that’s great if you are an expert in a certain field and thus I should listen to your advice, that does NOT mean you are qualified to lead an army. For all intents and purposes, he is leader in name only.

Sometimes I think that some GW2-players skipped every single dialogue after Trahearne gets introduced into the personal Story…

Ok I admit – the thing with Trahearne is a little complicated. He suddenly shows up (if you’re not a Sylvari) and seems to be a replacement for ones mentor (truth is good ppl die in war – and the mentor’s death was noble and honorable) and becomes the leader of the Pact. During my first playthrough, the whole Trahearne Situation felt kind of strange at first. But as it turns out – like e.g. in the pale tree mission pointed out – Trahearne’s fate (cleansing Orr) and PC’s fate (killing Zhaitan) are tied together.
He is a scholar and expert when it comes to Orr (perfect as a strategist), not part of one of the orders but respected by all of them. The PC is member of one Order, which means that PC can’t lead the pact because then one Order would be sovereign over the other two.

It makes perfectly sense, that Trahearne “officially” leads the pact – he does not steal PCs glory or credit – truth is Trahearne and the PC lead the pact like partners (e.g. T. continues the ask PC for advice and thanks PC more than once). The PC even helps Trahearne to overcome his self-doubts (seemingly impossilbe wyld hunt) and to recognize that he always had it in him (pale tree mission). While Trahearne does nearly all the stratigic (expert of Orr & the undead) and logistic stuff, PC commands the troops in the field and does the fighting at the frontline. Division of tasks. T. never took over the personal story – and that comic – well, funny but couldn’t be further away from the truth.

And when it comes to character-developement: what else or how much do you want to know about Trahearne? When you meet someone new in RL, you don’t get to see a 10hour introduction cinematic about that individual’s life (who would even want that o.O). Usually you are being told what that person’s job is (scholar, expert of Orr) and maybe some information about leisure activities (strolling around in Orr) and things like that. = poor charactern developement? o_O

Admited – some parts of the last third of the personal story seem to have been rushed through during the development, but if you ask me – I don’t want such intense charakter-developement all the time like witnessed in Naruto… where you get to see every single event from a character’s early childhood on and how he hurt his toe that one day he stubled over a rock and how freaking much that incident influenced him….. X_X

Then you have Ghost in the Shell – Motoko Kusanagi – you recognize that she’s a first-class hacker and member of that elite police force in the very first episode – period. You don’t see how hard she learned all day and every day in the police academy to aquire those skills xD – which would be utterly boring.

Conclusion – in my opinion PC got to know more than enough about T.‘s background during the personal story. I even hope for an important role for T. in Season 2. Trahearne is so much more epic than those “new” living story “sidekick-heroes”. I mean – come on – they are totally immature and look so out of place. Why is nearly noone complaining about those wanna-be Destiny’s Edge figures…

Wouldn’t destinys edge be more eligible for taking credit over the PC?

I think most of the hate towards Traeherne is coming of the Kormir hate.

I for one would love to see him and the pact come back for the jungles, it would make alot of sense.

Purple Miku.7032:

Runescape had superior storytelling than GW2 does, and it’s a decade-old game… so that’s saying something.

Most older games have better storytelling than today’s games. It’s in part because storytelling had to be done through text rather than graphics, but also because the story was often their biggest selling point. Gameplay and especially graphics were a lot less the focus of those games.

Which is a shame, because in the end, a good story does more to a game than slightly better looks.

Trahearne will defeat Mordremoth single handedly w/ his legendary sword Caldabolg.

Flash.6912:

Trahearne will defeat Mordremoth single handedly w/ his legendary sword Caldabolg.

Wonderful concept, except the sword is no more.