Guild Wars 2

What it sounds like when those 2 start talking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWBapufF90
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What I’m saying to myself as I’m listening to them speak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEtm_Q2LK9g

that’s what I was thinking while looking for clues around the crash site. We can see everyone was murdered why do I have to go run back and tell little miss detective everything?

Slayer.4238:

that’s what I was thinking while looking for clues around the crash site. We can see everyone was murdered why do I have to go run back and tell little miss detective everything?

The entire time I was rolling my eyes groaning for them to please stop lol. The sad thing is that EVERYTHING is most likely predone, so guess what? Were gonna get goo goo ga ga lovey dovey talk for the next few months… Exciting isnt it?

Okay… so I just thought it was a corny I like you like a sister… but… you’re telling me Leslies?

Chainheart.6139:

Okay… so I just thought it was a corny I like you like a sister… but… you’re telling me Leslies?

You musta missed all the hurling of “homophobe” at anyone who finds them ridiculous.

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

I think they are trying to appeal to 10-12 yr old girls.

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

Lasica.5068:

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

It hasn’t gotten to the point of Morticia and Gomez from Adams family. However it may help to have some of the lines not too corny to help relieve our minds from guarding life threatening dialogues at any point and time. So we can focus on other parts of the story, where it matters.

I reckon, people feel like the 2 characters are constantly having both phone and eye sx. Due to traumatizing scenes with eye lid flickering (bad animation ) and scripts on par with nails on a chalkboard.

Lasica.5068:

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

Kasmeer “Listen. I’m sorry about how I’ve been acting. I just can’t stand the thought of you getting hurt again. That scared the fluff out of me.”
Marjory “I know, honey. I’ve felt the same way about you. But you convinced me that you can handle yourself. Now, let me convince you.”

Its that kind of stuff I find nauseating. I thinking, omg lets just keep going shall we, you can both apologize about each others mood swings later.

Thobek.1730:

Lasica.5068:

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

Kasmeer “Listen. I’m sorry about how I’ve been acting. I just can’t stand the thought of you getting hurt again. That scared the fluff out of me.”
Marjory “I know, honey. I’ve felt the same way about you. But you convinced me that you can handle yourself. Now, let me convince you.”

Its that kind of stuff I find nauseating. I thinking, omg lets just keep going shall we, you can both apologize about each others mood swings later.

Lasica.5068:

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

Yep. I wouldn’t say “homophobic” personally, but EXACTLY like Traehearne, Destiny’s edge, or even scarlet to an extent, the bulk of the hate doesn’t actually become reasonable. It becomes lies that are able to be disproven.

“OMG TRAEHEARNE TALKS ALL CREDIT!” Nope. etc

When Marjory/Kasmeer are talking to eachother …

I have a bathroom break, or I make a sandwich, or I watch paint dry.

MastaNeenja.1537:

When Marjory/Kasmeer are talking to eachother …

I have a bathroom break, or I make a sandwich, or I watch paint dry.

Oh man, this one time when I was watching paint dry… It got a little more dry after a few seconds, it was the greatest XD

Chainheart.6139:

Okay… so I just thought it was a corny I like you like a sister… but… you’re telling me Leslies?

I guess you missed this from the tail end of the first Living Story:

The only thing more annoying then anything they say to each other are people who can’t stop kittening about it on the forums.

CharrGirl.7896:

The only thing more annoying then anything they say to each other are people who can’t stop kittening about it on the forums.

This! Just stop it or play another game. All those posts on Kasmeer and Marjory are by far more annoying than anything they do or talk about.

CharrGirl.7896:

The only thing more annoying then anything they say to each other are people who can’t stop kittening about it on the forums.

difference is you choose to read the posts about them and even comment on it. I can’t skip the horrible dribble they spew out, or choose not to play the living story without them. You have a choice and still come in here complaining about complaints.

Abe Kleine.3568:

MastaNeenja.1537:

When Marjory/Kasmeer are talking to eachother …

I have a bathroom break, or I make a sandwich, or I watch paint dry.

Oh man, this one time when I was watching paint dry… It got a little more dry after a few seconds, it was the greatest XD

BEST. DAY. EVER.

Thobek.1730:

CharrGirl.7896:

The only thing more annoying then anything they say to each other are people who can’t stop kittening about it on the forums.

difference is you choose to read the posts about them and even comment on it. I can’t skip the horrible dribble they spew out, or choose not to play the living story without them. You have a choice and still come in here complaining about complaints.

Yes, if I could skip that would be great.

As a response to the topic/opening post-ish:

So…why is it only their banter and not any from Braham/Rox/Taimi? They talk too. Maybe not quite as much, but they still do. The only time it got slightly annoying was the secret room part, with all of Taimi’s screeching, and one of Rox’s lines. “No one’s ever going to be able to decipher these chicken scratches!”

Nilkemia.8507:

As a response to the topic/opening post-ish:

So…why is it only their banter and not any from Braham/Rox/Taimi? They talk too. Maybe not quite as much, but they still do. The only time it got slightly annoying was the secret room part, with all of Taimi’s screeching, and one of Rox’s lines. “No one’s ever going to be able to decipher these chicken scratches!”

I actually enjoy a lot of the other characters, but I have mixed feelings on Taimi.

Edit: The reason I have mixed feelings on Taimi is probably that I am concerned for her in the living story as she is getting way to into Scarlet

Thobek.1730:

Lasica.5068:

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

Kasmeer “Listen. I’m sorry about how I’ve been acting. I just can’t stand the thought of you getting hurt again. That scared the fluff out of me.”
Marjory “I know, honey. I’ve felt the same way about you. But you convinced me that you can handle yourself. Now, let me convince you.”

Its that kind of stuff I find nauseating. I thinking, omg lets just keep going shall we, you can both apologize about each others mood swings later.

This x1000. Please stop THROWING it in my face that they are in love. WE GET IT. Progress the story without the mush.

Allelya.6830:

Thobek.1730:

Lasica.5068:

Thobek.1730:

it just breaks the tension of the game, we are hunting down a deadly murderer and these two are just going on about how much they love each other. Anet sure know how to turn two potentially interesting characters into two obnoxious characters.

Except what you are saying simply isn’t true.

If you look at the dialogue from Cornered, the story instance where we are chasing the murderer you will see not a single piece of their dialogue is directed towards each other. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cornered#Dialogues

And from the other story instances we are looking at one brief conversation in Fallen Hopes which amounts to Marjory saying “I’m okay now so no need to worry about me” and a couple of lines of dialogue in the first instance where Kasmeer is being overly protective and offering to take Marjory’s watch. The word Love isn’t mentioned once that I can recall.

This is why a lot of people criticizing the Marjory/Kasmeer relationship are called homophobic because they rely on blatant misrepresentations of the storyline to prove their points, which is usually the tactics of those with ulterior motives.

Kasmeer “Listen. I’m sorry about how I’ve been acting. I just can’t stand the thought of you getting hurt again. That scared the fluff out of me.”
Marjory “I know, honey. I’ve felt the same way about you. But you convinced me that you can handle yourself. Now, let me convince you.”

Its that kind of stuff I find nauseating. I thinking, omg lets just keep going shall we, you can both apologize about each others mood swings later.

This x1000. Please stop THROWING it in my face that they are in love. WE GET IT. Progress the story without the mush.

But how can the story writer fill in the blank spaces in the storyline without his/her LGBT agenda? They would actually have to write meaningful dialogue, and not forced lovey-dovies to make sure we know, every single chance, that they love eachother.

It’s cool that they’re together, but for kittens sake can we see more dialogue about baddies and dragons?

When they flirt, I’m reminded of Amazing Spider-Man 2…

Hopefully one of the two dies to turn the other into an actually cool character. Or, ya know, they at least get better VAs.. I’d suggest someone like Kari Wahlgren for Jory as she has the voice that sells the kind of character they tried to make Jory at the beginning, such as Princess Ashe from FFXII. Kas would really benefit from someone like Laura Bailey.

I agree that these threads are ten times more annoying than anything said in game.

I’m not sure that new voice actors could save them, I actually think the voice acting is very good, its the rubbish dialogue they have to read. It was the same issue with scarlet. A top notch voice actor but a horrible script.

I just don’t know how they can think all this mushy twilight romance dribble is good for the development of the characters. If its because they want us to think that they are pathetic doting wannabe heroes then its working.

I would be happy if they gave the new cast a more gritty edge and leave the lighthearted lines to someone like hobotron.

I just love Kasmeer’s ambient dialog when you interact with her. I was at the murder scene with Marjory and her and the story was turning grim, I pressed F and somehow interacted with Kasmeer instead of Marjory, so Kasmeer found it fitting to say

“I adore what you’re wearing, I must get a dress that colour”

I’m a male guardian btw…

I find Jory and Kas charming and humorous, lesbian relationships don’t bother me, it’s 2014. Not sure what the big deal is. They aren’t big hulking men sniffing their armpits…I dunno, sorry?

As for some LGBT “Agenda,” yeah it’s a terrible fiendish plot to get you not to hate people for who they love. I know that’s flippin’ hard for some of you but extract yourself from Limbaugh and Drudge and grow up.

Dondarrion.2748:

I just love Kasmeer’s ambient dialog when you interact with her. I was at the murder scene with Marjory and her and the story was turning grim, I pressed F and somehow interacted with Kasmeer instead of Marjory, so Kasmeer found it fitting to say

“I adore what you’re wearing, I must get a dress that colour”

I’m a male guardian btw…

What’s your point? She was complimenting your dye choice.
God knows too few people compliment me on my fabulous looks.

Besides, what are a few more bodies anyway. We’ve slaughtered hundreds of thousands. Even got achievements for it!

Thobek.1730:

CharrGirl.7896:

The only thing more annoying then anything they say to each other are people who can’t stop kittening about it on the forums.

difference is you choose to read the posts about them and even comment on it. I can’t skip the horrible dribble they spew out, or choose not to play the living story without them. You have a choice and still come in here complaining about complaints.

To be completely honest, I’m not seeing what some of you are seeing here. Have you been in a relationship before? Referring to your significant other as “dear” is a completely, 100% normal thing to do. It’s not forced or over the top, it’s how normal couples interact with each-other. That’s this “horrible dribble” you described. You’re overreacting.

And tbh no 2, if you think that is “forcing something on you” it’ complete bull, because it’s only what you choose to see. Reading some of these posts of how they’re “all over each other all the time” makes me realize that if people dislike something they’re going to over-exaggerate it, and stretch it beyond what’s actually being said.

And I’m not saying that because it’s purely out of homophobia (though there have been such posts in the past).

That one piece of dialogue where Kasmeer has been worrying over Marjory’s injuries is again, normal – and the latter gave a proper response “stop worrying so much” – again a situation I can relate to, and many of us surely can, when people who care about you sometimes go over the board from worry if something is wrong with you.

What do you think Rox does to Braham? She obsesses over his leg all the time.

I’m not saying that their relationship is perfect, or written in a progressive manner but the strong matter of fact is that people like to see more then there is to it, and let the fact that any kind of romantic subplot in any form of media annoys them makes them write things that are blown out of proportion.

Just saying. Feel free to hate as much as you want really.

Yeah, I don’t understand the complaint. It’s all fluff, and I don’t care, but it’s not being shoved down my throat, or forcing me to think things, or whatever.

I actually misread this thread and thought it was about something else entirely, like how Marjory and her sister sound nothing alike, not even having the same accent. Or how Marjory is apparently a worse detective than I am, because I am personally solving everything and she is not contributing at all in any way.

Then again, maybe that’s the problem. Her entire contribution to this story so far is she has relationships with people. She has a girlfriend, and she has a sister. But her contribution SHOULD be, she’s a detective and I’m bringing her information so she can tell me what the hell is going on, not the other way around.

If Marj/Kas (Kasjory? Marjmeer? what IS their Hollywould couple name, anyway?) is a bothersome relationship, I can only imagine how mind-’splode the forums are going to get when Braham and Rox start making out.

I kid, I kid. …I think. o_O

But yeah, I ran into the same thoughts as other people have. Namely, the “we get it already” idea. I don’t object to the relationship. I find it forced and, so far, unnecessary to the story. Have you seen the way Marjory "honey"s everyone? I swear she's flirting with me. A Charr. I mean, if she wants to put my hammer to better use or puff my warhorn, more power to her, but.. it's just awkward the way she eyes me while Kasmeer's watching. Perhaps LS2 will see them enduring hardships and testing their bond, but right now, it just feels like a pairing of convenience.

I am not looking forward to a year of their dialogue… and I used to really like Kasmeer and Majory. :\

MaryXkas is the new scarlet,
People will hate it,
People will defend it
And the rest won’t care.

well i just came up with a ncie idea..
surely work for arenanet but.. hey players would like it

what if the player that opened the instance can choose which npc he wants to go with?
and every npc says his own stuff

so with taimi we would be thrown to where id like to be thrown while with marjory we get that bone bridge to jump across

and braham enables us to do speedruns because of his “enough talk lets fight” xDD

ok i kinda was not very serios with this one..
but kidna like the mission in gw factions where some characters u chose made shortcuts available …
you could also add achievements for different team compositions…
no more homophob haters in the forum who dont want them together..xDD

if you do the mission more than once (you have to do it more than once to get achievements anyway) you can hcoose other heroes to hear different stuff

you could add some hidden lore that only appears when specific combinations appear like taimi finding in a special mission something itneresting belinda (by default in this mission says somethign about it) and suddenly braham recognises it from somewhere
that would truly be amazing!!

sure work for anet and the voice actors but … anet trust me the people will love it if you do it properly ^^