Best Non-Elite Spec Class(es) for Non-HoT?!

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Posted by: Celine.6857

Celine.6857

Please don’t simply reply to this with silly answers. I am intrigued as to what the mature, sensible player thinks…

I have an alt account (not F2P; bought it for storage a year ago when on offer). Lately been playing on it for an extra 2g daily. Easiest win by far for PvP is my minnion master necro, not lost a single match yet and have only died once and that was due to a 300+ ping!

What other non-elite specs (if any) are viable for PvP dailies? I am thinking thief perhaps, the old d/p? I also made an engi using Tool Kit and Juggernaut Flamethrower, but I just don’t feel confident in that.

Literally, this is a “just intrigued” thread.

Thanks!

[Edit] Obviously, playing unranked, just so we’re clear.

Samantha
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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

FrownyClown.8402

Things that can still get you wins.

Fresh air sc/f for ele

d/p thief maybe

Longbow ranger


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Posted by: Celine.6857

Celine.6857

Thanks for this, I had wondered about the old Power Ranger lol.

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Posted by: Trevor Boyer.6524

Trevor Boyer.6524

Old Power Ranger gets smashed like a fly on a wall by every HoT spec. It simply doesn’t have enough sustain or disengage vs. the HoT specs.

If you go Core Ranger spec, try this:

  • Skirmishing with quick draw/Nature/Wilderness with lore
  • Rabid or Wanderer’s / Balthazar
  • Shortbow / Sword & Torch – Geomancy/Smoldering both sides
  • Troll Unguent/LR/Flame Trap/Quick Zephyr/Entangle
  • Wolf/Drakehound for CCs

That’s about all you can work with on Core Ranger. Just raw explosive on point AoE DPS. Hope there is some tempest or guard on point to help heal/boon you up.

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Posted by: Celine.6857

Celine.6857

Alright, thanks! To be honest, (and I am not dissing Ranger here) I enjoy a more complex build anyway than just simply activating a couple of signets and pewing rapid fire, so I am kinda glad this is the case. I’m simply interested so I can do more PvP dailies LOL…

Thanks very much for this advice.

Samantha
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Posted by: Sirendor.1394

Sirendor.1394

I have played core D/P trickery thief a lot.

A lot depends on your team when you play thief. As thief you are not the one who takes the fights, you’re the one who turns fights into your team’s favor or who backcaps.

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Posted by: Celine.6857

Celine.6857

I have played core D/P trickery thief a lot.

A lot depends on your team when you play thief. As thief you are not the one who takes the fights, you’re the one who turns fights into your team’s favor or who backcaps.

Absolutely agree. This is definitely one I will be making as I am comfortable with the build. Thanks for providing support in that it is viable (I kinda thought so mind you, since my DD thief on my main account is exactly the same build but for replacing SR with either a signet or something else and for the different dodge capability lol).

Many thanks.

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

Oslaf Beinir.5842

Most condi builds pre hot could still function with a proper support or opening. You could try

Old school Core condi necro still works well running spite curses and soul reaping, merc amulet, double geo/ whatever you prefer rest of sigil and runes. Your corruptions will do the work for you just keep your distance and set up your wurm well, transfer enemy condis and try to hit scepter 3 for added burst and weapon swap or shrouf in someones face. And you might not want to run triple signets.

Core burn guard is still amazing for bursting unaware targets down especially if someone condi covers your burn stacks but cant win most 1vs1s on its own

Core condi p/p engi still packs a punch but lacks defense and sustain to hold its own alone so pick your fights well if you use it

If you want to play power builds only core war and thief would hold its own vs elite specs. If you are skilled enough you could try burst mesmer and LB ranger but i would rule those two out since anything would kill em even retal damage xD

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Posted by: Celine.6857

Celine.6857

Most condi builds pre hot could still function with a proper support or opening. You could try

Old school Core condi necro still works well running spite curses and soul reaping, merc amulet, double geo/ whatever you prefer rest of sigil and runes. Your corruptions will do the work for you just keep your distance and set up your wurm well, transfer enemy condis and try to hit scepter 3 for added burst and weapon swap or shrouf in someones face. And you might not want to run triple signets.

Thanks, I already have a great necro for just an alt account but if I want to mix it up, I’ll be sure to go this route.

Core burn guard is still amazing for bursting unaware targets down especially if someone condi covers your burn stacks but cant win most 1vs1s on its own

Now this is what I was waiting for, tbh. Since the majority of opponents would naturally ‘assume’ I am a DH, I like the idea of catching them unawares. Thanks for this.

Core condi p/p engi still packs a punch but lacks defense and sustain to hold its own alone so pick your fights well if you use it

This is what I’ve made (sort of) ready for an engi day, but indeed I don’t feel fully confident but having said that, dependant on team set up, I think I’ll give it a go.

If you want to play power builds only core war and thief would hold its own vs elite specs. If you are skilled enough you could try burst mesmer and LB ranger but i would rule those two out since anything would kill em even retal damage xD

Not bothered what kind of build it is, providing it stands up fairly well against the elite specs. I would expect the ranger to be hit hard, but I am still going to try it since if positioned well I feel could be useful in the right scenario. However, as you say, I fully expect to get stomped hard lol.

It’ll be interesting to see anyway. Btw, still no loss with my MM necro on the alt account lol.

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Posted by: Khenzy.9348

Khenzy.9348

D/P thief and condi engi are by far the strongest core specs. The above poster is wrong, no properly speced engi lacks sustain or defense.

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Posted by: Azantius.2976

Azantius.2976

I want to second base D/P thief.

Also base warrior is pretty solid now as well with all the base line sustain buffs.

This thread is a good starting point:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Tarcis-A-Veteran-Warrior-Build-Share

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Posted by: BertBoy.9031

BertBoy.9031

1 shot fresh air fam:

https://www.twitch.tv/gravityily/v/62681705

https://www.twitch.tv/gravityily/v/15682074

https://www.twitch.tv/gravityily/v/60301183

Static discharge engi and other mostly non hot stuffz:

https://www.twitch.tv/gravityily/v/63603353

shameless plug (am bad have mercy)

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Posted by: Vicky.4563

Vicky.4563

^ No shame. Not enough viewers from hacking Storm’s channel, eh?

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Posted by: Chase.2798

Chase.2798

Base warrior is good now since patch, hambow or greatbow is fun to play

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Posted by: pico.6402

pico.6402

Mesmer with condi or hybrid build can also do well. They don’t do double moa and don’t create so much clones as chrono but can still get enought damage and sustain.