Guild Wars 2

Please add a bind option for cancel action other than esc.(Which also does other things and is relatively hard to reach) Edit: Esc cannot be spammed to stow weapon because it results in unintentional target clearing and opening the menu up.
I’m aware of the fact that u can bind stow weapon but it is not the same.
Stow weapon has the following issues:

• It doesn’t toggle off auto-attacking if you stowed at the end of the attack or in the aftercast phase. (I can press it 3 times before the autoattack goes on. Pretty annoying that u have to press it 4 times to get a guaranteed stop.)(for ESC this behavior is even more annoying)
• It can’t cancel many abilities such as engi tool kit skills, downed skills, moa form etc.(ESC can)
• It is an action so it can’t be used while jumping/falling.(ESC can be)

• (often I don’t want my opponent to see that I’m turning auto attack off but they see it anyway when i stow.)

Edit: many of you said they should also create a clear target button. “Lock Autotarget” would be great for that but it doesn’t work while using a ground targeted ability(shortbow on thief has 3 commonly used ones, staff necros 4 skills, etc) plz fix or make a proper detarget button too if possible.

Note:
Escape has several functions, afaik in this order:
Close windows (switchable)
Stop ability activation
Stop auto-attack
Stop Auto-Run
Drop target
Open Game menu

Would be nice to be able to bind the esc key to another key through the options game controls menu.

Also, I feel like ESC usually has a better response, so I can cancel 1/4s cast skills while with SW I hardly can.

Good idea, also add disable alt+tab, and DETARGET BUTTON, this game is so fast in pvp and to stop holding my right mouse to click left one once (also move it away from the middle of the screen(where i need it to be)) is way too slow, especially if you play thief and die from almost every attack

Engineers can’t stop weapons when using a kit, only drop the kit, which puts the whole kit on a short cooldown. In a sense, this is a balance issue, no?

I support this QoL request, just like the previous 100 times we didn’t get a reaction. ^^

support this. hate it to see a bunch of noobs every day stowing weapons during the fight for no reason and thinking that would make them pro.
guiiis me stow weapons during the fight -me must be pro

You can easily cancel engineer kit skills by swapping out of the kit and stowing. I don’t see a reason to add a redundant feature.

Demus.4571:

You can easily cancel engineer kit skills by swapping out of the kit and stowing. I don’t see a reason to add a redundant feature.

Not at all. If you are playing a warr, and you missclick 4 instead of 3, you can stow and then cast 3 instantly. When dropping a kit, you have to wait 1s in order to equip the kit another time. Anyway, you can cancel kit skills with ESC, so pretty much the “fix stow weapon” is kinda related to this and would solve it if you could bind ESC on another key

Mefiq.7039:

Good idea, also add disable alt+tab, and DETARGET BUTTON, this game is so fast in pvp and to stop holding my right mouse to click left one once (also move it away from the middle of the screen(where i need it to be)) is way too slow, especially if you play thief and die from almost every attack

You can use the ‘Lock Auto Target’ keybind to clear your target when you release the key, although that added delay isn’t perfect. The actual function of stopping auto targeting from working while you hold it doesn’t affect most people.

I literally just came to the forums to post about this haha. Stow weapon doesn’t work with things like conjured weapons or when you are in the air. Escape is the better cancel ability button but it is also not key-bindable and a lot of people aren’t comfortable hitting it. Escape can also bring up the menu mid combat which is very annoying.

Creating a cancel ability key bind in the control options would be AMAZING.

Phantaram.1265:

Creating a cancel ability key bind in the control options would be AMAZING.

This.

Edit: one more thing that gw1 had but wasn’t carryed over.

Also +1 for select self | dropp target keybind.

Implement this Anet, please!

+1

MadVisions.4529:

Phantaram.1265:

Creating a cancel ability key bind in the control options would be AMAZING.

This.

Edit: one more thing that gw1 had but wasn’t carryed over.

Also +1 for select self | dropp target keybind.

If anyone doesn’t know this: Set a bind for Lock Autotarget for a clear target button If you have a target it detargets. If you have none and you hold it down you can target the person you would target with Autoattack on.

Mefiq.7039:

Good idea, also add disable alt+tab, and DETARGET BUTTON, this game is so fast in pvp and to stop holding my right mouse to click left one once (also move it away from the middle of the screen(where i need it to be)) is way too slow, especially if you play thief and die from almost every attack

Detarget button is Lock Autotarget.
Disabling alt+tab and alt+f4 would be great too!

Kicker.8203:

MadVisions.4529:

Also +1 for select self | dropp target keybind.

If anyone doesn’t know this: Set a bind for Lock Autotarget for a clear target button If you have a target it detargets. If you have none and you hold it down you can target the person you would target with Autoattack on.

with this i meant DESELECT not detarget my bad. you can deselect someone with esc or double click on the ground etc… but this smoetimes just does not work out and i sword2 back into the fight with warrior instead of disengageing.

This does not work on engineer kits.

For example, you have a spell with a casttime, that is not on a kit.
You use stow weapon during the casttime.
This will cancel the cast.

Now you use a spell with a casttime, which is on a kit.
You use stow weapon during the casttime.
This will NOT cancel the cast.

So basically you cant cancel the casts of casttime spells on kits.

Stow weapon should work to cancel casttime spells on kits.

Any other classes that have this problem where stow weapon wont work for them?

Maybe use one of your other 28 skills? You don’t suffer from weapon swap, something should be available.

You can press ESC, or drop the kit and then stow weapon (but then you have a little cd if you want to use another skill from that kit)

Use the same keybind for swap weapon and it will cancel the cast.

Hubris.7436:

Use the same keybind for swap weapon and it will cancel the cast.

Thanks.
Not completely ideal though, because it swaps you out of the kit.

You can press ESC, or drop the kit and then stow weapon (but then you have a little cd if you want to use another skill from that kit)

Esc is not exactly comfortably within reach, but at least esc works to cancel a cast on the kits, so thanks for pointing that out.

Maybe use one of your other 28 skills? You don’t suffer from weapon swap, something should be available.

Please point out which spells cancel others, because the ones I have tried dont cancel other spells.

There’s already a recent thread on this here, perhaps a mod can join those two?

there is more to it than just weapon swapping

if you weapon swap using your kit keybind it won’t interrupt the spell, this is useful when you want to chain something immediatly after a spell from a kit. It often happens when you swap back to rifle after using pry bar: pry bar lands after you already swapped to rifle.

if you weapon swap using your weapon swap keybind it will interrupt the spell, this is useful when you want to make someone waste dodges on obvious casts. This can also be used to land charged shot as most people won’ t dodge twice in a row.

From an enemy point of view the 2 above look almost the same, you swap out of a kit mid cast and proc weapon swap sigils, however in case 2 magnet will stop, in case 1 it will keep casting.

Lastly the ESC key will also interrupt your cast but it won’t show you swapping out of the kit, this means you can fake cast magnet into prybar (unless vs ele cuz he will blind you on dodge like a pro) and you don’t waste sigil swapping.

It’s situational, sometimes you want the cast to keep going after a swap, sometimes you want the cast to stop and weapon swap sigils to proc, sometimes you just want to stop the cast without activating anything.

MadVisions.4529:

Kicker.8203:

MadVisions.4529:

Also +1 for select self | dropp target keybind.

If anyone doesn’t know this: Set a bind for Lock Autotarget for a clear target button If you have a target it detargets. If you have none and you hold it down you can target the person you would target with Autoattack on.

with this i meant DESELECT not detarget my bad. you can deselect someone with esc or double click on the ground etc… but this smoetimes just does not work out and i sword2 back into the fight with warrior instead of disengageing.

detarget=clear target=deselect

In addition its useful to stop your cast, to prevent certain enemy attacks from happening.

For example Mesmer has a trait, that when he interrupts you on cast, that the cooldown of that spell of yours will be increased by 10-15 sec or so.
Daredevil will get access to something like that as well.

There are classes who get certain other benefits if they hit you on cast.

So trying to avoid that, by canceling your cast just in time, is an important aspect in pvp at least. The enemy will try to not fall for it. Its a mindgame.
It is called fake casting in most mmorpgs.

I dont think that it would cost much time to allow stow weapon to cancel the casts on our kits would it?

It already exists basically on everything non-kit.

It should just function as it does on non-kits.
For all I care there is no casting animation of the kit going on your back or so, like with stow weapon, as long as it can cancel the cast, without dropping out of the kit.

Plok.5873:

There’s already a recent thread on this here, perhaps a mod can join those two?

Yeah that would be good.

Sorry I had missed that other thread.

For a MOD:
This thread is being referred to
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/FIX-stow-weapon-plz/first#post5587204

On the engineer, if I want to stop Flame Jet from triggering 10×5 times Retaliation, I end up using Swap weapon, switching from kit to weapon and then Stow weapon to stop auto-attack. Kit on CD.

I have three different keybinds to stop auto-attack & build-up;

1. Stow/draw weapon: works only with rifle, pistol, hammer
2. Swap weapon: works only with kits, but undesirably swaps them out
3. Escape: works with both, but tends to trigger other undesirable stuff

Escape has several functions, afaik in this order:

1. Close windows (switchable)
2. Stop ability activation
3. Stop auto-attack
4. Stop Auto-Run
5. Drop target
6. Open Game menu

And it’s awkwardly positioned. Not good for canceling an ability activation.

So, back to the request: can we pretty please have one keybind that stops ability activation and auto-attack?

I whole heartedly agree with this post.

Also Plok, that is the best signature I’ve ever seen.

Kicker.8203:

Mefiq.7039:

Good idea, also add disable alt+tab, and DETARGET BUTTON, this game is so fast in pvp and to stop holding my right mouse to click left one once (also move it away from the middle of the screen(where i need it to be)) is way too slow, especially if you play thief and die from almost every attack

Detarget button is Lock Autotarget.
Disabling alt+tab and alt+f4 would be great too!

Actually, “Lock Autotarget” doesn’t always works, namely while casting ground-targeted skills. So a detarget button should be added as well

Very disappointed to see from datamining that these don’t get adressed but instead less important things get added.

1303051_0815 Show usable object names as overhead text.
1303053_0896 Show All Usable Object Names
1313462_0799 Hold to temporarily disable autotargeting.
1313462_0821 Toggle the autotargeting option.
1323114_0310 Toggle Autotargeting
1313462_0826 Disable Autotargeting
1323114_0113 Hold to temporarily disable action-camera mode.
1323114_0419 Disable Action Camera
1323114_0129 Toggle the snap ground target to current target option.
1323114_0206 Toggle Snap Ground Target

Can’t complain too much coz it’s new features but they could’ve spent the time better.

Made a thread once or twice about this in the past. On gw1 it was a must have, playing healing signet warrior in pvp and gvg – having cancel action saved my kitten so many times.

This is just one of the things that should have been looked into a long time ago. Camera smoothing an an option to hide damage floaters are two others that are super frustrating for me.

+1 I had the same thought since the game release. You might want to reconsider the title of the post tho, there’s nothing to “fix” about the stow, more like “add cancel action” keybind.

Divided by zero.9370:

+1 I had the same thought since the game release. You might want to reconsider the title of the post tho, there’s nothing to “fix” about the stow, more like “add cancel action” keybind.

Didnt want to add that title as ppl wouldve thought i dont know about stow weapon

I wish they would fix the mesmer greatword stow exploit, if anet thinks its ok to be able to bypass the aftercast then why the kitten does it even have an after cast

They fixed it on ele and necro so they couldnt do that but mesmer greatsword is still able to stow cast

Its just really annoying that to play mesmer effectively you have to essentially exploit which no other class has to do on their auto attacks