Guild Wars 2

This patch has upset even the most level-headed among us. When you’ve even upset Xeph, you’ve done some major no-nos Anet.

many top players was upset with this patch..So is Team Paradigm thinking of quiting this game?

The straw that broke the camel’s back.

When they looked at the balancing did they really think this was enough? These scraps of kitten is what they call balance =/.

They sure know how to pull an april fools prank…

Yes. Timewarp nerf to 6 seconds would be perfect.
Ele cantrips toned down a bit more.

I dont understand the kit refinement on engy enough to comment, i know they got alot of buffs, but buffs to things that seem so unviable i question if it matters.
They now have things which are less unviable?

I suppose bunker engies got a buff…

Please for the love of god , help warriors who aren’t 100 blades out.

I will always caveat that, until its play tested its too soon to be certain, but i feel with you xeph, that this patch hasnt adjusted the meta at all.

They really should release these notes ahead of time, y not take player feedback, its a free data source.

felivear.1536:

This patch has upset even the most level-headed among us. When you’ve even upset Xeph, you’ve done some major no-nos Anet.

qft.

this patch is a joke, and we would like to have an answer from aNet.

And please, not bullkitten like " when it’s ready" or “soon”.

Thanks.

One of the biggest problems is that bunker eles are just not fun to play against. Even if I land corrupt boon it doesnt achieve anything really. And the odds of hitting an ele with it are very long indeed with the perma dodging etc.

You are the lucky one – I could not hold my team in this game, but had some hope to get them back after this patch, after seeing it and what they have done I have started to contemplate leaving myself…

Dardamaniac.1295:

many top players was upset with this patch..So is Team Paradigm thinking of quiting this game?

Personally I am considering it.

Engi since BWE1 – each patch I have hope – and then they just rip my heart apart… it sux

Anet, why do you not sepreate skills to PvE and PvP version. That is the only way to get close to a decent balance in PvP and the PvE players can still be happy-

I tell you one thing this patch confirmed…perma stealth is now a part of this game (has anyone seen the Jonathans?)

Xeph.4513:

Dardamaniac.1295:

many top players was upset with this patch..So is Team Paradigm thinking of quiting this game?

Personally I am considering it.

Everyone is thinking the same.
Have they pleased anyone? NO!!!

PLEASE TELL ME THAT ALSO HAPPENED TO THE ENGI! Our buff is somewhere out there – I know it!

totally agree…this patch is just ridicoulus. the only thing we achieve from this patch is a even more smaller pvp-community. a lot of people will quit. congrats!!!

You’d think before the Big PvP patch you’d be able to give the correct notes.`

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

what a colossal oversight.

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Oh boy, now im scared. I hope changes doesn’t mean just nerfs.

Tarisuca.3142:

Anet, why do you not sepreate skills to PvE and PvP version. That is the only way to get close to a decent balance in PvP and the PvE players can still be happy-

Because they want PvE ers to be able to bring the skills that work for them in pve into pvp. PvE is the focus of this game.

At this point I would rather they went overkill and crushed ele to the ground just to shake the meta up. They can always buff them later if they go too far. At the present pace of nerfs (was ele even nerfed? I cant decide) the ele will be balanced in about 2017…just in time for the ladder to come out perhaps :P

My anger has been sated.. bring forth the true patchnotes.

Xeph.4513:

I don’t even know where to begin with this steaming pile of kitten, I can’t even begin to fathom how you came to the conclusion that this is even remotely close to being a balance patch, are we even playing the same game Anet ?

Firstly you decide that nerfing bunker eles isn’t necessary, instead you end up nerfing balance/dps eles. Cantrips were untouched, I want to understand the logic behind this if there even is any logic at all, I don’t understand at what point you thought that cantrips was balanced, perma vigor regen is completely fine (along with any other effect the cantrip it self has); eles running around with 25 stacks of might and close to perma protection, constant healing and superior mobility, are perfectly balanced.

Mesmer utilities also untouched; not even so much as an atempt to reduce the effectivness of time warp, or possibly an increased cooldown on illusion of life.

Engineer nerfed, literally removing over 80% of the possible builds that can be run with that class (how does this even make sense)

This has to be the biggest joke of a balance patch I have ever seen; the thing is I have never complained about the lack of pvp utilities and have always been an advocate of this game; but honestly all I expect out of the developers is a good balance patch that can shift the meta and give us something to work with, but instead nothing is changed.

I know that you guys said that you wish to avoid knee jerk reactions towards balance, but if not even twitching your pinky is your idea of balancing the game, then I doubt your going to have anyone to balance this game for.

I have been playing this game with my team since release, we are the only team I know of that has stuck together since release and we have always been strong advocates of this game, but we have never been as disappointed with this game as we were today.

Just quoting to make sure it’s real. As far as I remember, I’ve never seen Xeph complain openly about any patch and now this! I hope it will help you guys realize how big of a failure this close to 0 good changes balance patch was and that you will start actually balancing the game and opening new build possibilities starting March. I don’t think you lack the feedback you need to get in order to do so.

Edit: Yes, I sound harsh but I’m just THAT sad.

buff warrior

like +50%dmg all time

And where are the warrior buffs?

i agree with majority of things, not sure what to say about all of this tbh lol.

if this is all you can do in the previous 4 weeks Anet, then im disappointed. you should think about getting people who know how to fix the class rather than whoever it was currently. The guys you just had know absolutely nothing about ele if they call that a Nerf LOL.

guessing next patch is in another 4 week?

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

In other words you guys are scrambling to make a few changes real quick…ninja patch them in…then say “oh!! haha!! we forgot to put these in the patch notes!”

>.>

What a joke… should remove PVP from GW2 and pretend it never happened… how can people fail so hard after something so good like GW1’s PVP?

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

It doesn’t matter if they’re d/d or s/d, CANTRIPS are a huge issue. Giving them such synergy – stability, protection, regen and vigor WITH a condition removal on a proc, because of the synergy between these traits. Oh. This is also a proc on a 10 point trait.

Well…. I guess its back to League of Legends.

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Do you want to drive us mad?
You had all the time to prepare the patch and the notes of it.
And now you tell us that there are missing things?
That’s above any sense, sorry.

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Hurry up on this, this is important for damage control. If theres stuff in there that wasnt mentioned please please rush that info to the forums. Theres a bit of a storm brewing here.

I saw a lot of double ele and triple ele teams floating around, but i didnt see a serious double mesmer team proffiting off double time warp, and all those IoLs. Mesmer is the only class forced into running 3 team utilities (IoL, TW, Portal), practically useless when stuck alone with enemy ele(s) on home point (which is like 60% of the time). Actually if mesmers didnt have portals and time warps, who the kitten would run a mesmer over something else?

Ele nerfs are good, could have hurt cantrips a bit as well.

Otherwise i agree with xeph and the patch is piece of kitten, a slap in the face to pvp community. No ladders and no visible rating being the prime reasons for that opinion

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

I’m trying to write a response to this that doesn’t have any words that will get caught in the word filter. You guys have been making games for a while now, right? This isn’t the first patch you’ve done, right? How come every single patch has multiple major changes missing from the notes?

I just don’t get how a major veteran game studio constantly does the same crap you’d expect from some indie team making their first game with the change in their pockets.

I log on patch day expecting BIG changes, buffs that make new specs viable and nerfs to change up the meta and make things less stale.

This patch has given me 0 reason to download it and log on. im bored already from just reading the patch notes.

Seen the comments and are hastily cobbling something together Anet?

I’m sorry I really support you all for the tremendous hard work that you are putting into the game (No, seriously)

Everyone was expecting some subtle changes that would change the meta away from Bunkers, Pew Pew 1 button smashing trait builds and comp running twin Ele plus Mesmer taxis.

We got not a lot I’m afraid.

Xeph AND Lowell not happy = not good

Xeph do a flame post = game is dead yet

Lets relax and check things in game first I guess. Also I wanna try 1 vs 1 some good ele on my warrior to see how much time I need to drop him down, but I just started download so it will take some time…

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

I bet you didn’t got it.

NOTHING WILL CHANGE, even if you really have “slightly” nerfed ele bunkers.

other classes are pretty much the same, viable build variation is minimal.

This is not LoL, we have not 100 champions to choose among, we have 8 professions, AND I DON’T WANT TO PLAY BS THIEF IF I WANT TO PLAY THIEF BECAUSE ALL OTHER OPTIONS ARE CRAP ( and this can be said for almost every profession).

Do something ASAP.

Hey guys, Rangers are still here, I think everyone forgot about us. You know, the guys with a burst build that doesn’t burst like all other classes, a tank build that doesn’t tank like all other classes, and a utility build that doesn’t rely on stupid pet mechanics like other classes.

The changes to ranger are the ones im the most happy about, that seemed about right.

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Are there changes to other professions that are also missing?

Like thief traps lol.

Anet, you guys failed hard this time around. The worst thing you can do is promise balance in SOTG then release a patch with these BS changes. That tells the fans that you don’t give a kitten about the state of the game…

90% of the patch (pvp) is of trivial stuff…thieves and warriors really only got tooltip and graphic changes…for real??

And Eles are pretty much untouched?

Buff Necro minions which have the worst AI in game? You can give them backstab and they won’t be able to land them properly.

GG

John Peters remark is just them saying…

“oh kitten!!! we kittened up again!!”

Quick make some changes and we will ninja patch them in and say “oops we left them out of the notes”

Thats what Im seeing…

What a professional group…

Yay they buffed minions for necros -_-, to bad the AI makes them totally useless still. didnt change necros one bit. Are they playing the same game?

Yeah sorry, but I’m out.

I enjoy MMOs because of the constant evolution.

This game (and game-play) is evolving so slowly it feels like watching paint dry.

Hell, we already have such a limited number of abilities and viable builds yet there seems to be no changes in sight.

When you have such a shallow game, at least make regular changes. I don’t want to be doing the same shmuck for months on end.

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Will we EVER get a complete, honest patch note post EVER?

just sayin

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

Thanks for your honesty but this just shows a complete lack of professionalism.

JonPeters.5630:

There are some updates missing from the notes. We are tracking down those, but some changes to the D/D and S/D ele build are in this patch despite not being in the notes.

kittenOLOL

Such a disappointment all this time waiting for the big patch and this is what we get? Good joke Anet you will get far saying “When it’s ready”.