Guild Wars 2

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The past patches over the last months have shown that anet is listening to nobody

-Discuss

it would be awesome if there were some days were we can sit together with the devs on ts or skype and tell them what we think we don’t need money we need nothing what we all want is to improve this game because it really has potential

Also just texting them and telling them something about changes we would like to see would be nice as well (but then discussing it on ts afterwards)

Sensotix.4106:

I feel like the devs are really listening to what people on the forums say but the big problem with this is that there are 90% or people that know little or nothing about pvp, 6 % people that have a decent knowledge and then 4% that are top tier pvp players

The problem i want to adress is that most of the time you see suggestions from the 90% and the other 10% can’t really say something against it since the mass of players kinda rules how the game developes..
To my mind it would be important to listen to the 4% (or the 10%) because then we might see good changes that 90% of the people wont understand at first but those changes would be much better for the game than the changes the 90% suggest…

I really liked some of the changes in the last patches but we are still missing a lot of things that can be implemented really easily because they are not that big

I play with a lot of the 10 % players and then we end up talking about the game between the matches and i hear so many great ideas …

Cheers
Sensotix

who tells u that u are among the 10% with good suggestions? honestly leave that attitude outside the forums and stay with your friends believing your are god among mortals.

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

I feel like the devs are really listening to what people on the forums say but the big problem with this is that there are 90% or people that know little or nothing about pvp, 6 % people that have a decent knowledge and then 4% that are top tier pvp players

The problem i want to adress is that most of the time you see suggestions from the 90% and the other 10% can’t really say something against it since the mass of players kinda rules how the game developes..
To my mind it would be important to listen to the 4% (or the 10%) because then we might see good changes that 90% of the people wont understand at first but those changes would be much better for the game than the changes the 90% suggest…

I really liked some of the changes in the last patches but we are still missing a lot of things that can be implemented really easily because they are not that big

I play with a lot of the 10 % players and then we end up talking about the game between the matches and i hear so many great ideas …

Cheers
Sensotix

who tells u that u are among the 10% with good suggestions? honestly leave that attitude outside the forums and stay with your friends believing your are god among mortals.

I can’t believe you just said that
I am in the 10% because i have been playing this game since the beta (Pvp only) have been playing with and against the best pvp players in this game and also am in the top of the lb since it came out that’s why i count myself to the 10%
i am getting so tired of people asking me the same stuff over and over again like when i did the interview with azshene and i used the term “top guardian” and people argued about it..are you kidding me?!

I’m more afraid that the devs here share the same mentality actually.

It’s foolish to think only the top 1% knows what they’re talking about.

I completely 100% agree with some players such as Helseth, and it helps that they have the success to back their information up, but just because your at the top of the kiddie pool doesn’t mean much (the scene here is small compared to other monsters lol)

There are top players out there that understand how important casuals are for a big successful esports scene.

Sensotix.4106:

I can’t believe you just said that

Most of the suggestions raised aren’t high-level balance ones. At most, 90% of people saying “balance” are literally just saying “balance” which is meaningless in the bigger picture, or “balance philosophy” which would actually be pretty fun to have a talk about. There’s no “delete Dhuumfire”.

Besides, do you really need to be a high level player to be allowed to say “new game modes”?

Knote.2904:

I’m more afraid that the devs here share the same mentality actually.

It’s foolish to think only the top 1% knows what they’re talking about.

I completely 100% agree with some players such as Helseth, and it helps that they have the success to back their information up, but just because your at the top of the kiddie pool doesn’t mean much (the scene here is small compared to other monsters lol)

There are top players out there that understand how important casuals are for a big successful esports scene.

and i don’t have the success to back my information up? or the knowledge after one whole year of pvp only

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

I can’t believe you just said that

Most of the suggestions raised aren’t high-level balance ones. At most, 90% of people saying “balance” are literally just saying “balance” which is meaningless in the bigger picture, or “balance philosophy” which would actually be pretty fun to have a talk about. There’s no “delete Dhuumfire”.

Besides, do you really need to be a high level player to be allowed to say “new game modes”?

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Sensotix.4106:

Knote.2904:

I’m more afraid that the devs here share the same mentality actually.

It’s foolish to think only the top 1% knows what they’re talking about.

I completely 100% agree with some players such as Helseth, and it helps that they have the success to back their information up, but just because your at the top of the kiddie pool doesn’t mean much (the scene here is small compared to other monsters lol)

There are top players out there that understand how important casuals are for a big successful esports scene.

and i don’t have the success to back my information up? or the knowledge after one whole year of pvp only

I didn’t say anything about you. I just said that because I mentioned Helseth and how I agree with his views. I don’t know your views/ideas/whatever.

But that wasn’t my point at all, you’re making yourself seem very self-centered here.

I didn’t call you bad, or that you don’t know what you’re talking about. I never said any of that.

Knote.2904:

Sensotix.4106:

Knote.2904:

I’m more afraid that the devs here share the same mentality actually.

It’s foolish to think only the top 1% knows what they’re talking about.

I completely 100% agree with some players such as Helseth, and it helps that they have the success to back their information up, but just because your at the top of the kiddie pool doesn’t mean much (the scene here is small compared to other monsters lol)

There are top players out there that understand how important casuals are for a big successful esports scene.

and i don’t have the success to back my information up? or the knowledge after one whole year of pvp only

I didn’t say anything about you. I just said that because I mentioned Helseth and how I agree with his views. I don’t know your views/ideas/whatever.

But that wasn’t my point at all, you’re making yourself seem very self-centered here.

ah now i know what you mean
yes i will either try to do a video to talk about everything that i think needs to be changed but then again i am not sure if the devs will watch it :/
or i will try to get some of the few good players together that are still active to set up a state of the game kind of thing
and i know people might think its arrogant that i count myself towards the 10% but it’s just how it is ..i have a huge knowledge about pvp in this game i know almost everything about it..i have been playing it daily over the last year…and i am sick and tired of seeing people complaining about something that’s not even a problem forgetting about things we really need

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

I can’t believe you just said that

Most of the suggestions raised aren’t high-level balance ones. At most, 90% of people saying “balance” are literally just saying “balance” which is meaningless in the bigger picture, or “balance philosophy” which would actually be pretty fun to have a talk about. There’s no “delete Dhuumfire”.

Besides, do you really need to be a high level player to be allowed to say “new game modes”?

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

so sitting on top of buggy leaderboard + playing since beta + playing against the same curse is making you think you has the only right to suggest something and all others are stupid? honestly?

u know there are better players outside that hasnt the backup to play teamq or are cursed with bad teammates in soloq who are propably smarter and better than u.

playtime and leaderboard dont give u the right to suggest something. only if are capable of thinking in greater pictures. but your attitude disqualifies u. so please shut up.

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

Sensotix.4106:

Knote.2904:

Sensotix.4106:

Knote.2904:

I’m more afraid that the devs here share the same mentality actually.

It’s foolish to think only the top 1% knows what they’re talking about.

I completely 100% agree with some players such as Helseth, and it helps that they have the success to back their information up, but just because your at the top of the kiddie pool doesn’t mean much (the scene here is small compared to other monsters lol)

There are top players out there that understand how important casuals are for a big successful esports scene.

and i don’t have the success to back my information up? or the knowledge after one whole year of pvp only

I didn’t say anything about you. I just said that because I mentioned Helseth and how I agree with his views. I don’t know your views/ideas/whatever.

But that wasn’t my point at all, you’re making yourself seem very self-centered here.

ah now i know what you mean
yes i will either try to do a video to talk about everything that i think needs to be changed but then again i am not sure if the devs will watch it :/
or i will try to get some of the few good players together that are still active to set up a state of the game kind of thing
and i know people might think its arrogant that i count myself towards the 10% but it’s just how it is ..i have a huge knowledge about pvp in this game i know almost everything about it..i have been playing it daily over the last year…and i am sick and tired of seeing people complaining about something that’s not even a problem forgetting about things we really need

Pretty much anyone here is afraid anything they post won’t be considered by the devs. Hell even if I spend a few hours posting some indepth criticism/ideas I have in my head, and it does get seen, and maybe even acknowledged assuming the criticism/ideas are good, what are the odds they even happen or inspire the devs? Especially when you get these tiny changes after 4 months?

Also people complaining about things you think aren’t an issue usually are issues. That’s where balancing for casuals vs balancing for top tier comes in, and it’s something I think Riot has does a decent job at.

Casual players may find some kind of gameplay that may have counters in top level play, that doesn’t always make it ok, it could still be incredibly unfun to play against. And usually when that’s the case, even top level players hate it, even if can be countered, that doesn’t make it any less a pain in the kitten .

While yes there are a lot of really (Really) stupid ideas/complaints out there, if you’re afraid the devs might consider it an actual problem, then present your case as to why it’s not a problem.

I think Anet is really shooting themselves in the foot with the lack of balance splitting though. Not only do you have to balance for all 3 parts of the game, but you ALSO have to juggle casual vs pro balance, that’s A LOT. And they’re really trying to balance for esports, but there needs to be more serious balance changes.

However, if they nerf everyone (which in my, and others’ opinions, everyone needs nerfing, not buffing) then that hurts PVE and WvW which is probably why they’re not doing that.

Then on the flip side, the lack of fixes and buffs to traits/skills that are broken or terrible, and the lack of variety and FUN changes, hurts PVE and even WVW, and it even hurts Spvp imo, but I feel like that’s not happening because of Esports balancing, it feels like a giant mess.

IMO, I just want more “fun” for all parts of the game including spvp, just make the classes more fun, more options etc, there will always be builds that are on top, but it makes the game much more fun/interesting and offers a better chance for the players to develop/counter the meta themselves.

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

I can’t believe you just said that

Most of the suggestions raised aren’t high-level balance ones. At most, 90% of people saying “balance” are literally just saying “balance” which is meaningless in the bigger picture, or “balance philosophy” which would actually be pretty fun to have a talk about. There’s no “delete Dhuumfire”.

Besides, do you really need to be a high level player to be allowed to say “new game modes”?

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

so sitting on top of buggy leaderboard + playing since beta + playing against the same curse is making you think you has the only right to suggest something and all others are stupid? honestly?

u know there are better players outside that hasnt the backup to play teamq or are cursed with bad teammates in soloq who are propably smarter and better than u.

playtime and leaderboard dont give u the right to suggest something. only if are capable of thinking in greater pictures. but your attitude disqualifies u. so please shut up.

okay please tell me how i should have started?
it’s amazing…..
WAAAAAAH kittening hell….
-sitting on top of a buggy lb (if its so easy why are you not there)
- playing since the beta competetively with guys like lady and lord nag nag nag helseth and other trusted players sharing ideas and thoughts (well..)
- and no i don’t think i am the only one that has to say something i just said that i have enough knowledge to bring things forward but i am also up for other people that have enough knowledge to share their thoughts but what i read on the forums is ridiculous

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

Knote.2904:

Sensotix.4106:

Knote.2904:

Sensotix.4106:

Knote.2904:

I’m more afraid that the devs here share the same mentality actually.

It’s foolish to think only the top 1% knows what they’re talking about.

I completely 100% agree with some players such as Helseth, and it helps that they have the success to back their information up, but just because your at the top of the kiddie pool doesn’t mean much (the scene here is small compared to other monsters lol)

There are top players out there that understand how important casuals are for a big successful esports scene.

and i don’t have the success to back my information up? or the knowledge after one whole year of pvp only

I didn’t say anything about you. I just said that because I mentioned Helseth and how I agree with his views. I don’t know your views/ideas/whatever.

But that wasn’t my point at all, you’re making yourself seem very self-centered here.

ah now i know what you mean
yes i will either try to do a video to talk about everything that i think needs to be changed but then again i am not sure if the devs will watch it :/
or i will try to get some of the few good players together that are still active to set up a state of the game kind of thing
and i know people might think its arrogant that i count myself towards the 10% but it’s just how it is ..i have a huge knowledge about pvp in this game i know almost everything about it..i have been playing it daily over the last year…and i am sick and tired of seeing people complaining about something that’s not even a problem forgetting about things we really need

Pretty much anyone here is afraid anything they post won’t be considered by the devs. Hell even if I spend a few hours posting some indepth criticism/ideas I have in my head, and it does get seen, and maybe even acknowledged assuming the criticism/ideas are good, what are the odds they even happen or inspire the devs? Especially when you get these tiny changes after 4 months?

Also people complaining about things you think aren’t an issue usually are issues. That’s where balancing for casuals vs balancing for top tier comes in, and it’s something I think Riot has does a decent job at.

Casual players may find some kind of gameplay that may have counters in top level play, that doesn’t always make it ok, it could still be incredibly unfun to play against. And usually when that’s the case, even top level players hate it, even if can be countered, that doesn’t make it any less a pain in the kitten .

While yes there are a lot of really (Really) stupid ideas/complaints out there, if you’re afraid the devs might consider it an actual problem, then present your case as to why it’s not a problem.

yes i will try to do all this in the video since it’s so much i can’t really say it here…
for example one guy complained about perma blind vs thief using pistol offhand..
then he found out he just had to step out of the blind field…and there was a huge fuss about it …he even went to the thieves forum to suggest a nerf etc…and people reacted to it saying it was op etc…..for example the s/d thief as well….the patch clearly showed that the devs were listening to the wrong people..while good players suggested a change to the way the ports work others suggested to remove one boon strip (what did it change? -nothing) and thats why i am doing this here…
seems like i am wasting my time tho since a lot of people think i am an arrogant prick that only wants attention -.-’

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

Sensotix.4106:

seems like i am wasting my time tho since a lot of people think i am an arrogant prick that only wants attention -.-’

At last, something everyone can agree with.

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

seems like i am wasting my time tho since a lot of people think i am an arrogant prick that only wants attention -.-’

At last, something everyone can agree with.

haha wow! gg random dude

Sensotix.4106:

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

i just asked how you can judge if i know something about tpvp even tho u dont play it
It’s just so pathetic

+1 to Sen

tichorum.2415:

+1 to Sen

thanks a lot finally someone

Sensotix.4106:

yes i will try to do all this in the video since it’s so much i can’t really say it here…
for example one guy complained about perma blind vs thief using pistol offhand..
then he found out he just had to step out of the blind field…and there was a huge fuss about it …he even went to the thieves forum to suggest a nerf etc…and people reacted to it saying it was op etc…..for example the s/d thief as well….the patch clearly showed that the devs were listening to the wrong people..while good players suggested a change to the way the ports work others suggested to remove one boon strip (what did it change? -nothing) and thats why i am doing this here…
seems like i am wasting my time tho since a lot of people think i am an arrogant prick that only wants attention -.-’

Those kinds of threads I don’t even bother reading TBH. I’m pretty sure everyone knows how ludicrous they are lol.

I don’t see how the patch shows that the devs are listening to anyone. I don’t remember anyone crying about the boon strip, just lots of QQ about evade spam, and the fact that it does a lot of UNBLOCKABLE dmg. (Unblockable creep is a problem I’ve noticed lol).

EVERYONE has been crying about Healing Sig but that wasn’t touched.

Para Sigil had a lot of QQ, but it deserves the fix because IT WAS BUGGED anyway, even though I’ve heard it’s not what the problem was with warriors, despite the devs thinking that.

I actually had an idea I was going to do, I was gonna do a breakdown on the balance changes in the patch, take each change and discuss why that change should or shouldn’t have happened, and what it does or doesn’t change.

Maybe you could give that a shot? It might help offer some perspective to the devs.

This is NOT a personal attack against the devs, but it does feel like they don’t know what to do, when I saw the stream and they said “We don’t know what to do with Mesmer Sceptre”, but then they reduce the cd on the #2 and #3 (which were already strong), and completely ignore the auto (which has been garbage SINCE BETA), I realized just how out of the loop they must really be.

Hopefully some really indepth discussions and reasoning for why certain things should be buffed/nerfed/changed would help.

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

hooma.9642:

Sensotix.4106:

Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

Knote.2904:

Sensotix.4106:

yes i will try to do all this in the video since it’s so much i can’t really say it here…
for example one guy complained about perma blind vs thief using pistol offhand..
then he found out he just had to step out of the blind field…and there was a huge fuss about it …he even went to the thieves forum to suggest a nerf etc…and people reacted to it saying it was op etc…..for example the s/d thief as well….the patch clearly showed that the devs were listening to the wrong people..while good players suggested a change to the way the ports work others suggested to remove one boon strip (what did it change? -nothing) and thats why i am doing this here…
seems like i am wasting my time tho since a lot of people think i am an arrogant prick that only wants attention -.-’

Those kinds of threads I don’t even bother reading TBH. I’m pretty sure everyone knows how ludicrous they are lol.

I don’t see how the patch shows that the devs are listening to anyone. I don’t remember anyone crying about the boon strip, just lots of QQ about evade spam, and the fact that it does a lot of UNBLOCKABLE dmg. (Unblockable creep is a problem I’ve noticed lol).

EVERYONE has been crying about Healing Sig but that wasn’t touched.

Para Sigil had a lot of QQ, but it deserves the fix because IT WAS BUGGED anyway, even though I’ve heard it’s not what the problem was with warriors, despite the devs thinking that.

I actually had an idea I was going to do, I was gonna do a breakdown on the balance changes in the patch, take each change and discuss why that change should or shouldn’t have happened, and what it does or doesn’t change.

Maybe you could give that a shot? It might help offer some perspective to the devs.

This is NOT a personal attack against the devs, but it does feel like they don’t know what to do, when I saw the stream and they said “We don’t know what to do with Mesmer Sceptre”, but then they reduce the cd on the #2 and #3 (which were already strong), and completely ignore the auto (which has been garbage SINCE BETA), I realized just how out of the loop they must really be.

Hopefully some really indepth discussions and reasoning for why certain things should be buffed/nerfed/changed would help.

that’s what i will really try to do! i have to first think about how i will start it since it wont fit in one single video and i really have a lot of stuff to do for university

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

i just asked how you can judge if i know something about tpvp even tho u dont play it
It’s just so pathetic

your whole argumentation is just wrong. show me where i said you know nothing about pvp? i said your are one of the 90% who thinks they are right and only what they say is true. there is a difference not knowing anything and believing that you know is ultimative true. there are different angles of view for every problem and dont acknowledge that fact and the position of view of others players and start to investigate that viewpoint is your whole problem.

there is always some smarter and better player out there. so no u arent trusted to say the ultimate true, u hasnt the right to claim that and u hasnt the right to claim others are wrong or stupid.

pointing to some silly examples and players who stream and use that as justify is dumb. the only u can claim is that you more well know cause streaming and youtube.

thinking that i hasnt played tpvp just shows how wrong you are with your path and argumentation and attitude.

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread. feel free to report me for stoping the generalization judgement about the community.

Sensotix great job with all your vod u have my full support and will to help if needed

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

Forsaker.9213:

Sensotix great job with all your vod u have my full support and will to help if needed

thanks a lot forsaker hope there will be more supporters

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

Or you could keep giving him power by not getting over it.

It’s just his opinion, he doesn’t have to censor himself to appeal to someone who willingly joined the thread, that’s not how it works. Just move on.

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

it’s no insult to say that people who are not actively playing pvp shouldnt keep a big thing of suggestions rolling in the pvp section as simple as that

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

Or you could keep giving him power by not getting over it.

It’s just his opinion, he doesn’t have to censor himself to appeal to someone who willingly joined the thread, that’s not how it works. Just move on.

u realize that he indirekt censors all other opinions by claiming its wrong and he is the only one who has the right to suggest something? at some point u move above the point of freedom of expression.

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

Or you could keep giving him power by not getting over it.

It’s just his opinion, he doesn’t have to censor himself to appeal to someone who willingly joined the thread, that’s not how it works. Just move on.

u realize that he indirekt censors all other opinions by claiming its wrong and he is the only one who has the right to suggest something? at some point u move above the point of freedom of expression.

i don’t say that i am the only one….
i say that it brings the game forward if we listen to those who have a knowledge about whats going on..which should be common sense i guess

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

it’s no insult to say that people who are not actively playing pvp shouldnt keep a big thing of suggestions rolling in the pvp section as simple as that

first u dont say that. u say that only the top of leaderboards has the right to post suggestions. and besides that unless u can prove that someone never plays or played tpvp u has no right to judge!

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

Or you could keep giving him power by not getting over it.

It’s just his opinion, he doesn’t have to censor himself to appeal to someone who willingly joined the thread, that’s not how it works. Just move on.

u realize that he indirekt censors all other opinions by claiming its wrong and he is the only one who has the right to suggest something? at some point u move above the point of freedom of expression.

i don’t say that i am the only one….
i say that it brings the game forward if we listen to those who have a knowledge about whats going on..which should be common sense i guess

mmh if its common sense why only 10% has it? i think you show more and more the wrong logic of your argumentation. if its common sense than the 90% has the right to suggest something and not the 10%!

whe arent in the position to judge what bring the game forward or what not, cause we lack the knowledge of future design path of the game. so the only persons who can judge if it helps or not are the developers. even a suggestion accepted by 99.999999999999% of players and suggested by u can be wrong if it doesnt fit in the design scheme.

every suggestion no matter how stupid they sound to you brings the game forward, cause they show something and the developers can invest that point of view that lead to that suggestions. its not always the suggestion whats important. it the knowledge where to start to search and seeing the right relations and interpretions addicted by future design scheme.

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i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

it’s no insult to say that people who are not actively playing pvp shouldnt keep a big thing of suggestions rolling in the pvp section as simple as that

first u dont say that. u say that only the top of leaderboards has the right to post suggestions. and besides that unless u can prove that someone never plays or played tpvp u has no right to judge!

i just said that those people shouldnt make suggestions “90% or people that know little or nothing about pvp”

yes, over 70% of the comments in the forums are hilariously unbelievable.

i don’t know either they are exaggerating or really believe so.

normally i don’t comment on some categories which i dont know about. but that’s not the case for a lot of people here. they just assume they know it because they countered it once or twice or just by reading random tool tips.

Lighter.5631:

yes, over 70% of the comments in the forums are hilariously unbelievable.

i don’t know either they are exaggerating or really believe so.

normally i don’t comment on some categories which i dont know about. but that’s not the case for a lot of people here. they just assume they know it because they countered it once or twice or just by reading random tool tips.

+1 to this
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Lighter.5631:

yes, over 70% of the comments in the forums are hilariously unbelievable.

i don’t know either they are exaggerating or really believe so.

normally i don’t comment on some categories which i dont know about. but that’s not the case for a lot of people here. they just assume they know it because they countered it once or twice or just by reading random tool tips.

+1 to this
/15 chars

funny. u make the same generalization that some others do to justify suggestion to justify your right to suggest. isnt that more a fail then anything else?

with +1 to his post u just indirekt negated your opening thread. showing how u generalize the players with your limited knowledge about the players.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Gw2-PVP-Community-Improvement-Ideas/page/2#post3001648 Yeah, I’ve already taken community ideas and posted it into a video and emailed it straight to Jon Peters. Doing the same thing is not going to change anything.

Countless

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Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

it’s no insult to say that people who are not actively playing pvp shouldnt keep a big thing of suggestions rolling in the pvp section as simple as that

first u dont say that. u say that only the top of leaderboards has the right to post suggestions. and besides that unless u can prove that someone never plays or played tpvp u has no right to judge!

i just said that those people shouldnt make suggestions “90% or people that know little or nothing about pvp”

where is your source of knowledge to judge how much a player knows about pvp or not?

how often you will change your statement?
first it was just plain 90%
now in this case its 90% + ppl who in your opinion dont know anything

the funny part is even if they dont anything, u cant deny the right to suggest something. its not your duty to judge that!

Trigr.6481:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Gw2-PVP-Community-Improvement-Ideas/page/2#post3001648 Yeah, I’ve already taken community ideas and posted it into a video and emailed it straight to Jon Peters. Doing the same thing is not going to change anything.

Countless

i like your video there were some great ideas in it but some things are really wrong like that mesmer gs auto should do more dmg on close range and some other things but overall it adressed most of the points..but what i want to talk about is pvp rewards and general changes

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Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

it’s no insult to say that people who are not actively playing pvp shouldnt keep a big thing of suggestions rolling in the pvp section as simple as that

first u dont say that. u say that only the top of leaderboards has the right to post suggestions. and besides that unless u can prove that someone never plays or played tpvp u has no right to judge!

i just said that those people shouldnt make suggestions “90% or people that know little or nothing about pvp”

where is your source of knowledge to judge how much a player knows about pvp or not?

how often you will change your statement?
first it was just plain 90%
now in this case its 90% + ppl who in your opinion dont know anything

the funny part is even if they dont anything, u cant deny the right to suggest something. its not your duty to judge that!

i will stop talking to you since it wont lead to anything

+1 to sens full support for you bro.

Thelonious Twig

JinDaVikk.7291:

+1 to sens full support for you bro.

Thelonious Twig

thanks bro

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Sarrs.4831:

Sensotix.4106:

i agree with what you said and yes you don’t have to be a top player to say new game modes etc

but then i see others doing videos and posting it on the forums saying stuff like make mesmers gs close ranged ..and something like that … it just seems like some people don’t have enough knowledge of pvp and the problem is people agree with them because they know as little as they do and then the devs will start thinking about it since a lot of people agree..

Even if they did end up with “make mesmer gs short-ranged”, which is a ludicrously tight avenue to actually gain any real support as this seems to be a vote as to which topics to discuss, there’s nothing to imply that they’ll actually think about acting on the request. This is just starting discussions, not actually deciding what to do. It’s stage two in a four/five stage procedure.

yea this was one example of what i read or see on the forums and i just couldn’t watch it and say nothing so i will also make a video and see if people agree

actual u are just 1 of the 90% who thinks only his suggestions are the right one and all others are wrong. thx for the showcase!

have you ever played one single team q?
how can you judge me and my knowledge about pvp when you don’t even play it

lol.. just lol.. so i cant judge anything, but you? funny.

can a mod please step in and close this bullkitten?

edit: i reported that clearly insulting thread. u can post your suggestion and discuss it. but claiming to be the only who has a plan and start to insult others to be stupid has to be closed.

Please stop, this is just derailing the thread which could otherwise have good discussion. I should report you if anything, but I won’t. Just stop.

no problem. he just needs to remove the part where he judge others in his opening thread.

I cant because that’s just the point of this whole thing…
For example my highest pve char is rank 45 or smth..and thats why i never say smth about pve changes..but there are so many pve players doing hotjoin and complaining…

as long as u dont understand the viewpoint of that players u hasnt any right to judge if that complain is right or not. accept it and show your own point of view and suggestions. there is not ultimate true or wrong in a not boolean environment.

if i follow your argumentation u should stop that discussion unless you can prove all what u suggest is ultimate true. leaderboard and that things u posted to justify doesnt count. use the gameengine, formulas and show it mathematical.. a real prove.. or else remove your insulting part.

it’s no insult to say that people who are not actively playing pvp shouldnt keep a big thing of suggestions rolling in the pvp section as simple as that

first u dont say that. u say that only the top of leaderboards has the right to post suggestions. and besides that unless u can prove that someone never plays or played tpvp u has no right to judge!

i just said that those people shouldnt make suggestions “90% or people that know little or nothing about pvp”

where is your source of knowledge to judge how much a player knows about pvp or not?

how often you will change your statement?
first it was just plain 90%
now in this case its 90% + ppl who in your opinion dont know anything

the funny part is even if they dont anything, u cant deny the right to suggest something. its not your duty to judge that!

i will stop talking to you no since it wont lead to anything

yeah i know its hard to argue against that. now u just need to say it…. speak after me: “i was wrong and hasnt the right to judge other suggestions or mental state or how often they play pvp or not”