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Posted by: Taku.6352

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Everyone else is too busy tanking their MMR for easy wins. :v

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

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perhaps its time you join the others and start lowering your MMR as well?

does this mean division is taken into account when queuing ?

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Posted by: deda.8302

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Oh it happend already,didnt expect this for another week or so…
Next step is that you will be forced to boost some league 1 teams to help them up, or you will be asigned lowest mmr players posible ,so that you lose some pips.
lol just watch broken MMR in large scale

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Posted by: trytonianYeti.4389

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pls read OP’s signature before accusing him of farming/exploiting. the system is a bloody hell of a mess where people wait an hour or more for a match once they’ve escaped the zoo that is amber and emerald div.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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perhaps its time you join the others and start lowering your MMR as well?

does this mean division is taken into account when queuing ?

I think so.

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Posted by: Cuchulainn.7421

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You whine on time queue but everyone leaves pvp cause you farm all the night with esl players.

idk where u get this from, I’ve never seen collero q with a team lol

He didn´t play with Xerrex some matches though

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Posted by: Nath Forge Tempete.1645

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well i need a printscreen of that “close to ruby” to trust U =D

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

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You would just afk anyway lol

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Posted by: Seyiwaji.4082

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Yes he couldn’t win in solo. So he teamed up with good players and exploited the system all the night ?
Collero plesde don’t wonder if people are sleeping.

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Posted by: Nila.7813

Nila.7813

20 Min in soloq. Thank you arenanet.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

Collero.7963

Okay – It took 2-3 hours but I finally got a match. I lost it as the game was decided before it even began due to them having regulars and I had 3 unknowns. I gave it all I had though, but it was impossible…

2-3 Hours? / 1 Match / -1 Pip

I don’t even know what to say anymore…

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

You would just afk anyway lol

Hahahahaha. Henry delivers.

On the actual topic, yes, the whole PvP is a strategic game at the moment, filled with stalking other players, queue dodging and night-time farming. If you don’t go premade, you are likely to have a rollercoaster ride filled with blow-out wins and loses. If you go premade, you will most likely farm randoms or get farmed by a ProLeague carry team. At night, it’s simple because every team gets farmed by one or two premades.

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Posted by: Zaiden.7832

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I lile the strategic aspect of it aswell- its like a new gamemode.
Showing as offline to fool others into false security, finding the right guys to queue up with.

And as everyone thinks they can get easy games at 3am we have a cluster of high MMR people playing until the daybreak.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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Once you get to Sapphire – You can’t farm throughout the night because it’s nearly impossible to get matches. I just needed to clear that up for the jealous and kittened people in some of the previous posts.

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Posted by: Zaiden.7832

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Can confirm-
we managed to get 3 games in 3 hours last night (dodging you and the guns n tool premade).

Really sad that the matchmaking is actualky working and looking at your MMR right now.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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I got several matches and won most but now I am back with 40 minute queues…

Edit: A response from ANet would be useful here. It’s getting ridiculous…

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

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If you were smart you wouldnt be grindning a broken system 5+ hours a day. Who cares where anyone is ranked.

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Posted by: Impact.2780

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What’s the point in factoring MMR into a league system that has progression via divisions with tiers and is meant to be competitive play with serious leader boards? This whole system would work better removing MMR from the equation. Treat every player as equal level at the start, and match make based on the player’s league position. Leaderboards would also be better then. Let players ability put them where they should be instead of trying to control it with a computer algorithm.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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If you were smart you wouldnt be grindning a broken system 5+ hours a day. Who cares where anyone is ranked.

I shouldn’t be playing the game? Oh…

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

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There are not enough players at your level for a competitive match, Collero.

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Posted by: Bebunw.8137

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same here 20 min atm and i only solo and duoQ and i have just reached sapphire one hour ago

ps: it will be hard to do the daily league achievement in this condition

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Posted by: The Ace.9105

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If the league system works like this it’s working. What isn’t working with the current league system is the mmr.

In your case of farming matches it only means that there are no ppl in your league level playing the game. Without mmr this wouldn’t be the case. Without mmr the game would force you to have a bit longer wait times while people are reaching your level but you would still be able to play matches more often than now.

I also think that the reason they made this system like this is the rewards so that it would take huge amount of time to get to the legendary and get rewards. Unfortunately this is the wrong way of thinking because it only cripples the matchmaking and makes this game unplayable and because pvp players don’t care that much about reward, they just want to have good matches.

Leagues are a mess now because they use their mmr system to decide matches. If anet wants to have their leagues working properly they need to get rid of the mmr and use the league system instead.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

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They could essentially tell MMR to relax completely and just match anyone with anyone.

But they are not going to rewrite the entire matching system to use League tiers for matching anytime soon. They do not have the staff allocated to do that. It would take a few months of programming and testing.

Besides, most of the staff is probably working on the Holiday in-game WintersDay event.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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Okay – You win ANet. I can’t deal with these 30 minute queues everytime any longer.

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

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First world problems lol… Pretty easy to lower MMR when you solo queue, I get paired up with people who don’t even know how to play the game and lose matches because I can’t carry hard enough. I pretty much only solo queue, occasionally duo if my friend is online. I win about 30-50% of the games I’m in with solo queues, which is fine – the games are still fun until I get up against full premades who zerg points with 3+ people every fight.

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Posted by: Solstace.2514

Solstace.2514

Okay – You win ANet. I can’t deal with these 30 minute queues everytime any longer.

I have the perfect solution for you. Put me on your shoulders and my abysmally low MMR will balance out your high one, and you’ll have 30 second queues

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

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This isn’t your MMR, but your ladder position. We could let matchmaking expand the ladder position cutoff, but then we’d have a lot of players complaining that they keep getting matched with people outside their division. We’d have to let this happen pretty slowly still.

How long would you be willing to wait before going significantly outside your division for matchmaking?

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

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Well at least they have a LADDER CUTOFF in the matching. Thank goodness.

Please keep the Sapphires+ out of the Amber pool.

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Posted by: skullfaerie.7203

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This has got to be a joke.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

Morwath.9817

How long would you be willing to wait before going significantly outside your division for matchmaking?

I think 5 minutes wouldn’t be too long. I could endure even 10 minutes just to be sure I won’t get Amber guys in my team who doesn’t lose anything while I’m heavily punished for losing in Sapphire.

Well at least they have a LADDER CUTOFF in the matching. Thank goodness.

Please keep the Sapphires + out of the Amber pool.

Yes, please. Keep Ambers out of my matches ;P

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Posted by: Syrius Gorn.5384

Syrius Gorn.5384

Evan ? plz, you can’t see the 5 forums pages complaining about matchmaking and league system ? plz we want a true answer, not a “plz wait”….

You are loosing a lot of players atm….

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Posted by: REGGADO.1237

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This isn’t your MMR, but your ladder position. We could let matchmaking expand the ladder position cutoff, but then we’d have a lot of players complaining that they keep getting matched with people outside their division. We’d have to let this happen pretty slowly still.

How long would you be willing to wait before going significantly outside your division for matchmaking?

Dont expand cutoff, improve system to climb ladders reasonably. How to progress if game forces you to have 50% win ratio. Divisions should be easier to climb, now most the soloquers will be stuck in tier3 forever.

If people wont stuck in ladders, then there will be more people in all divisions and short que times.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

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This isn’t your MMR, but your ladder position. We could let matchmaking expand the ladder position cutoff, but then we’d have a lot of players complaining that they keep getting matched with people outside their division. We’d have to let this happen pretty slowly still.

How long would you be willing to wait before going significantly outside your division for matchmaking?

i say make ‘em wait 15 -20 mins. he’s gotten up high enough fast enough that he’s going to need to wait for a match.

in theory, eventually, once enough people have played enough to be in the higher divisions he’ll have a bigger pool of people to play w/. but if hes up in a high div after less than a week, he’s just going to need to wait

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Posted by: The Ace.9105

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This isn’t your MMR, but your ladder position. We could let matchmaking expand the ladder position cutoff, but then we’d have a lot of players complaining that they keep getting matched with people outside their division. We’d have to let this happen pretty slowly still.

How long would you be willing to wait before going significantly outside your division for matchmaking?

Is there any chance of mmr reset to make the league system to work properly and to show the mmr of a player?

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Posted by: speedbox.1473

speedbox.1473

This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

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Posted by: Syrius Gorn.5384

Syrius Gorn.5384

“n. We’d have to let this happen pretty slowly still.”

Yeah and you will loose a lot of players, because since 3 years, pvp is a fail and people are fed up to wait for a miracle…. leagues must be this miracle.
But you failed

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Posted by: Collero.7963

Collero.7963

I can wait 10 minutes but even that is too long although after what I have endured today, I am grateful for even 15 minute waits. I just can’t take these 20-40+ minute waits everytime.

It needs to be dealt with as soon as possible, like in the next few days because I literally can’t play due to it and I know a couple of people who are also having long queues, not insane like mine though.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

I can wait 10 minutes but even that is too long although after what I have endured today, I am grateful for even 15 minute waits. I just can’t take these 20-40+ minute waits everytime.

It needs to be dealt with as soon as possible, like in the next few days because I literally can’t play due to it and I know a couple of people who are also having long queues, not insane like mine though.

u should just go to the new zones and farm while in queue… er wait..

u should just go to a hotjoin match and farm while in queue… wait wait…

u should just find some of ur friend/randoms and duel for fun while in queue… wait wait wait…

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

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Seems like a lose-lose for ArenaNet.

Relax the matchmaking so the top people can farm the players who are learning.

The ambers stop playing.

The top players wait too long, and they quit as well.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

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got the same problem here….. long wait times and then vs premade of ESL-players….. it is a horribly broken system that forges nothing but salt.

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Posted by: Nova Stiker.8396

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This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

Except we’re not.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

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This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

Except we’re not.

Indeed. Not everyone in Sapphire is “farmer” or “esl premade”, some of us was just playing soloQ and actualy got there due to our own effort, flexibility and simply by not throwing…

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

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This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

Except we’re not.

Indeed. Not everyone in Sapphire is “farmer” or “esl premade”, some of us was just playing soloQ and actualy got there due to our own effort, flexibility and simply by not throwing…

How does it feel having any prestige stolen by exploiters?

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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I have been in queue alone for 1 hour & 37 minutes now.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

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This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

Except we’re not.

Indeed. Not everyone in Sapphire is “farmer” or “esl premade”, some of us was just playing soloQ and actualy got there due to our own effort, flexibility and simply by not throwing…

How does it feel having any prestige stolen by exploiters?

I don’t find any “prestige” in climbing into sapphire. So don’t know how it feel, however I tend to rage on full rosters ;s

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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Yes he couldn’t win in solo. So he teamed up with good players and exploited the system all the night ?
Collero plesde don’t wonder if people are sleeping.

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Posted by: Collero.7963

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This is perfect let farmers and premade esl teams play with each other))))

Except we’re not.

Indeed. Not everyone in Sapphire is “farmer” or “esl premade”, some of us was just playing soloQ and actualy got there due to our own effort, flexibility and simply by not throwing…

Exactly – It was expected though.

I finally got a pop after 1 hour and 53 minutes.

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Posted by: Teutos.8620

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This isn’t your MMR, but your ladder position. We could let matchmaking expand the ladder position cutoff, but then we’d have a lot of players complaining that they keep getting matched with people outside their division. We’d have to let this happen pretty slowly still.

How long would you be willing to wait before going significantly outside your division for matchmaking?

Please just copy the league system from league of legends.

Your system is just broken.

Match making should only take into account your mmr, never the division.
AFTER a match, the amount of pips you gain (or loose) should be determined by your mmr in relation to your current league position.

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Posted by: Kuya.6495

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The difference between the way that this forum responds to devs and the way that reddit responds to them helps me understand why they prefer answering questions over there rather than in this nest of harpies.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

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The difference between the way that this forum responds to devs and the way that reddit responds to them helps me understand why they prefer answering questions over there rather than in this nest of harpies.

Pucker up and kiss it guys. Your 50 bucks for the expansion that the devs promised, in the manifesto, was never going to happen entitles you to suck up every sweet drop of developer comments like ambrosia from the gods.

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