Guild Wars 2

Dear ANet, I would appreciate it if you guys give this some very serious thought…

We NEED to separate solo queue from team queue.
There are way too many games which end up being premades vs solos, and it is not okay.

I agree, it can’t happen now, population won’t support it. But there’s no doubt there will be a huge influx of new players during HoT, so it can definitely be restructured then…

When HoT comes out:

• REMOVE hotjoins from game.
• Leave Unranked Queue as it is (Any sized party can go here)
• REWORK Ranked Queue into following:
  • Add Ranked Solo/Duo Queue (Only solo queue, or duo queue—if you want to play with a friend)
  • Add Team Queue (Only 5 man rosters)

Thanks for reading,
Ac

LOL FAT CHANCE CANDIS. enjoy getting rolled by premades as a solo queuer from now on.

/signed

/15chars

I vote in favor of this notion.

ban acandis for blatant insubordination

And for the love of god, do not allow soloq’ing in teamqueue or w/e.

Meanwhile put stronghold in it’s own ‘mode’ and only allow full teams (pugs/guilds) to play it.
This game does not, in any way, give incentives to form teams. Soloq’ing is nice and all, but the gameplay is not meant for soloplay. This will show even more in stronghold.

Give automated tournaments, because ESL and w/e just doesn’t cut it. We need something consistent with good rewards to increase the amount of teams and competitiveness.

What happens with teams of 3 or 4 people?

Guess you get a pug in town like in gw1

rotten.9753:

What happens with teams of 3 or 4 people?

Play unranked, or custom Arenas.

Acandis.3250:

Dear ANet, I would appreciate it if you guys give this some very serious thought…

We NEED to separate solo queue from team queue.
There are way too many games which end up being premades vs solos, and it is not okay.

I agree, it can’t happen now, population won’t support it. But there’s no doubt there will be a huge influx of new players during HoT, so it can definitely be restructured then…

When HoT comes out:

• REMOVE hotjoins from game.
• Leave Unranked Queue as it is (Any sized party can go here)
• REWORK Ranked Queue into following:
  • Add Ranked Solo/Duo Queue (Only solo queue, or duo queue—if you want to play with a friend)
  • Add Team Queue (Only 5 man rosters)

Thanks for reading,
Ac

ummmmm no, there are alot of 5 man pre-made teams who arent any good or have 1-2 player weak links but there playing for fun. Why do a few people who arent any good at pvp get to decide anything? If you cant hold a 50% win rate at solo que maybe its you. Seriously some of these guys have over a 60% win rate solo queing and are complaining about fighting the abjured and dankening with all solo ques and your talking solo ques as if they was a good experiment anyways.

You know the time i actually had the most fun in this game was when there were paid tournaments and tickets, I have lost my hope for having such feeling as back then.. But your suggested change seems reasonable, that is what everyone wanted but we have got something completely different, as always..

If HoT brings a lot of new players into the game, then the current system might start working properly, and solos wont meet full teams as often.

The reason why solos meet premades currently is probably because matchmaking can’t find anyone else to match against.

The current system allows for a lot more flexibility (solo players filling gaps in 3/4 player teams, etc.) so it’s premature to want seperated queues for HoT.

Might as well wait and see if PvP gets a higher population and the matchmaking starts working properly.

Rieselle.5079:

If HoT brings a lot of new players into the game, then the current system might start working properly, and solos wont meet full teams as often.

The reason why solos meet premades currently is probably because matchmaking can’t find anyone else to match against.

The current system allows for a lot more flexibility (solo players filling gaps in 3/4 player teams, etc.) so it’s premature to want seperated queues for HoT.

Might as well wait and see if PvP gets a higher population and the matchmaking starts working properly.

This is actually a good point. The only problem with not separating queues is leaderboards become meaningless in mixed queues.

I don’t think it’s possible to have both leaderboards and mixed queues. With the system I’m proposing, leaderboards would have value.

Granted the boards would have to be reworked slightly so that there’s some sense of individual progression, and Team Queues should get their own Guild/Team based board.

I guess really, the biggest issue is that there’s nothing to play for but hordes of PvE chests that don’t even stack.

Rieselle.5079:

If HoT brings a lot of new players into the game, then the current system might start working properly, and solos wont meet full teams as often.

The reason why solos meet premades currently is probably because matchmaking can’t find anyone else to match against.

The current system allows for a lot more flexibility (solo players filling gaps in 3/4 player teams, etc.) so it’s premature to want seperated queues for HoT.

Might as well wait and see if PvP gets a higher population and the matchmaking starts working properly.

exactly, anyone who want to post anything about a matchmaking or queues should read this at first…

plus 1 add solo/duo and then do teams it will fix the “lb prblem” also

-1
Everything does work as intended.
Majority is happy with current system.
Enjoy it.

MaXi.3642:

Rieselle.5079:

If HoT brings a lot of new players into the game, then the current system might start working properly, and solos wont meet full teams as often.

The reason why solos meet premades currently is probably because matchmaking can’t find anyone else to match against.

The current system allows for a lot more flexibility (solo players filling gaps in 3/4 player teams, etc.) so it’s premature to want seperated queues for HoT.

Might as well wait and see if PvP gets a higher population and the matchmaking starts working properly.

exactly, anyone who want to post anything about a matchmaking or queues should read this at first…

They don’t want to read it they have read it before and for some reason reject it. I personally think the current system works fairly well and just needs some minor tweaks. Then again I tend to play at peak hours with max population and I also tend to check before every match to see who is grouped on the other team when I solo so I know full well when I am facing grouped players and the largest size a group could be that I am facing. It is rarely more then 2 when I solo and often all solos. I don’t tend to assume I got my butt kicked because I was facing full groups when I lose. Sadly a lot of the complainers do.

Tao.5096:

Majority is happy with current system.

Prove it…

All those of you that are claiming I didn’t read this.

Rieselle.5079:

If HoT brings a lot of new players into the game, then the current system might start working properly, and solos wont meet full teams as often.

The reason why solos meet premades currently is probably because matchmaking can’t find anyone else to match against.

The current system allows for a lot more flexibility (solo players filling gaps in 3/4 player teams, etc.) so it’s premature to want seperated queues for HoT.

Might as well wait and see if PvP gets a higher population and the matchmaking starts working properly.

READ THIS AGAIN

This is actually a good point. The only problem with not separating queues is leaderboards become meaningless in mixed queues.

I don’t think it’s possible to have both leaderboards and mixed queues. With the system I’m proposing, leaderboards would have value.

Granted the boards would have to be reworked slightly so that there’s some sense of individual progression, and Team Queues should get their own Guild/Team based board.

I guess really, the biggest issue is that there’s nothing to play for but hordes of PvE chests that don’t even stack.

If we get rid of hotjoin and get people to do ques, we’ll have actual match making.

BlackTruth.6813:

If we get rid of hotjoin and get people to do ques, we’ll have actual match making.

why should we get rid of hot joins? they are for fun, sometimes you know you have 5 mins and you want to just jump in… if they would go unranked arena, they would waste 2+ mins in queue and left the match after another 3 mins leaving their team in 4, this is really what would you like to see? I don’t…

MaXi.3642:

BlackTruth.6813:

If we get rid of hotjoin and get people to do ques, we’ll have actual match making.

why should we get rid of hot joins? they are for fun, sometimes you know you have 5 mins and you want to just jump in… if they would go unranked arena, they would waste 2+ mins in queue and left the match after another 3 mins leaving their team in 4, this is really what would you like to see? I don’t…

who seriously logs in for 5 minutes to play pvp? time to get realistic.

Acandis.3250:

I guess really, the biggest issue is that there’s nothing to play for but hordes of PvE chests that don’t even stack.

This cannot be stressed enough. It would be such a simple solution to make these able to stack. Just look at wvw champion loot chests

i would raise the limit to 3 person teams in ranked. But shouldnt the system already be pairing teams against teams. I know it doesnt work but if they fixed it so that teams that have parties in them i.e. 2-3 people playing together play against other parties and also add in another queue for teams i think that would be better.

But yeah at the moment i hate battle of kyhlo because of the treb and the fact that teams suck dealing with it. Stronghold solo queue will be a nightmare especially since i actually like fighting and not controlling siege….if i wanted to do that id wvw lol

Covis.6037:

MaXi.3642:

BlackTruth.6813:

If we get rid of hotjoin and get people to do ques, we’ll have actual match making.

why should we get rid of hot joins? they are for fun, sometimes you know you have 5 mins and you want to just jump in… if they would go unranked arena, they would waste 2+ mins in queue and left the match after another 3 mins leaving their team in 4, this is really what would you like to see? I don’t…

who seriously logs in for 5 minutes to play pvp? time to get realistic.

I want to be able to pop into a hotjoin for 2+ minutes, die immediately, and then come to the forums to discuss balance for the rest of the time.

The only issue (and it was pretty minor in the big picture) with the old solo queue was the way the leaderboards were calculated. I still have no clue why it was removed altogether.

shimmerless.4560:

The only issue (and it was pretty minor in the big picture) with the old solo queue was the way the leaderboards were calculated. I still have no clue why it was removed altogether.

I’ve often wondered if removing hot join would make queue times shorter and result in not meeting the same few people over and over as if you are the only ones queueing.

+1

It’s not like anyone PvPs in hot join anyway. The first team to 10 points wins, because after that it becomes a match to join the winning side via auto-balance rather than to reach 500 points first.

Edit: Changed this post to its own thread.

Agreed, best system. Keep custom arenas though of course.

Geikamir.6329:

Tao.5096:

Majority is happy with current system.

Prove it…

There are hundreds/thousands of players, soloing, tpvping, who haven’t posted their QQ on the forums. That goes for NA and EU both.
That leads me to think they’re ‘ok’ with it. But only Anet has the answer.

Saiyan.1704:

Geikamir.6329:

Tao.5096:

Majority is happy with current system.

Prove it…

There are hundreds/thousands of players, soloing, tpvping, who haven’t posted their QQ on the forums. That goes for NA and EU both.
That leads me to think they’re ‘ok’ with it. But only Anet has the answer.

That’s still 100% assumption.