Oh dear I have thought about that, so I made such suggestions.
Re-balance the Healing Power scale with Water Attunement Heals.
So power ele/berserker ele won’t get any impact from this balance change.
Support ele must have to run full cleric to be effective like it supposed to be.
Re-balance the Skill base damage on Pry Bar, Throw Wrench.
This one might be my typo, should be re-balance the Power scale with Pry Bar, Throw Wrench. So in this way power engi/berserker engi can still hits hard while Celestial Engi can’t reli pull out any burst damang like berserker engi.
You have a fair point in saying that reducing healing skill coefficients won’t hurt Zerker Ele.
When you say that it’s a good thing that Ele will have to go clerics to be support like it’s supposed to do, if healing coefficients are less, than building your character for healing means you get hit the hardest. It just throws mediocre playstyles under the bus even more, in order to balance the current meta. There are better ways..
Also, Zerker Engi builds run with about the same power as Celestial Engi builds (battle sigil, and/or 6 points in Explosives fills the gap), so reducing power scaling unfortunately doesn’t hit Celestial Harder than Berserker. It’s the same nerf to berserker builds, it’s not targeting Cele.
Listening to the Bird of Fire and removing Cele amulet would be a smarter fix than messing with the scaling coefficients in the way you are.
Flame Shield on for the tired argument that I’m against nerfing Ele/Engi. I’m not. I’m just against bad changes that target non-Cele builds as hard, or harder than Cele builds.
I remember you were one of the guy complaining about Staff Cleric Ele was braindead tanky when Chubbs was playing it. Re-balance the healing power scale will definitely fix the brain dead tankyness of staff ele, and can still be effective on supporting the team if played well.
Zerker Engi’s power stats pretty much same as celestial, are we playing the same game? If re-balance power stats on your class happened, which will balance the damage on celestial engi and you also still have decent burst if you decided to go berserker engi.
Here is what you will have:
Condi engi still hits like a truck, but easy to die.
Celestial engi still have decent damage, but not as crazy as now but still hard to kill.
DD ele will not have 25 stacks mights anymore and no more 10 sec+ burnings and not tankier than bunker guardian.
Staff Ele doesn’t do a lot damage, relys on personal skills to survive well and still supporting teammate well if you go full Cleric.
Fresh Air Ele will be probably the strongest ele build in this game if you played really well. relys heavily on personal skills, doesn’t get any affect from these balance.
Shatter Mesmer more opportunities to 1v1 DD eles, Cele engis because they are more balanced, in result more mesmers will join the meta.
Celestial Warrior will not be effective as now because Celestial nerfed + bug fixed, and Celestial amulet itself isn’t too hot for warriors because healing power for us is a waste. Plus when those braindead meta engi ele build is balanced, there will be a lot more bursty comp coming up, which straight counter to Shoutbow Warriors.
D/P, S/D Thief will be more viable in the meta, as always.
Dps guardian will have a chance to join the meta because all the op builds are balanced, might have chance to counter thief a bit.
Bunker guardian will come back to the meta because there are no more Op builds that can take the role from bunker guardian.
Its your decision if you think Bird of Fire’s suggestion is better. I don’t really care but you don’t have to be mad right here. I just listed everything that might happen if these things happened to the PvP scene.
You’re not right on this. Warhorn, Shouts, these are really bad at reflecting a player’s skill. Hammer was much more indicative of who the bad and good Warriors were. If you whiffed your hammer skills, you would simply die due to less sustain.
