Guild Wars 2

Spamming shouts. No skill. Running around like idiots. About 15 OP utilities. Every weapon set is amazing. Even I could run warrior and do very well and I never play it. It is that brainless.

They dont even run impale even though its broken, because all their other stuff is broken. They have a gear advantage on you due to celestial. Lol you dont think its OP ok anet.

They have healing signet which has zero counterplay. You cant interrupt it yet it heals for a billion? Makes no sense. Please add that to every class if this is the case. Necro consume condition should also be instant cast so should ranger heals. Warrior doesn’t even need uninterruptable heals as they have a ton of stability.

Banner has not enough counter play. A 2 second cast is too short for such a strong skill. Should be 3 seconds. Just because the other broken class, thief, can do instant, no cool down, ranged interrupts does not mean that a 2 second cast on a res which is only an elite is fair. Clue: Headshot and withdraw are broken OP too.

Even their unused stuff like sword offhand, greatsword, rifle, mace, shield = good. Rampage is so strong, stop buffing it already too.

How long is long enough? Why are they are allowed to be the best class in basically every game mode for 2 years in a row? Give someone else a chance kitten . Same with thief too btw. Broken with zero counter play too.

Thief and warrior = ruin gw2.

What is next, try to “nerf” thief/warrior and actually buff them by mistake as usual?

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

You forgot turret engie. MM necro.

StickerHappy.8052:

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

You forgot turret engie. MM necro.

Those builds suck so no point including them

Mesmer has perma invulnerability… that made me laugh

Lordrosicky.5813:

StickerHappy.8052:

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

You forgot turret engie. MM necro.

Those builds suck so no point including them

you forgot p/d thief :s

“And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. "

Sure mesmer use bug :p

So every profession takes no skill to play?

Reborn D.2769:

Lordrosicky.5813:

StickerHappy.8052:

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

You forgot turret engie. MM necro.

Those builds suck so no point including them

you forgot p/d thief :s

“And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. "

Sure mesmer use bug :p

Cancel casting greatsword should of been nerfed 2 years ago. It is a joke they nerfed necro axe first (which was never used) and havent done it to mesmer. Mesmers are the most annoying group of players in game. All they do is moan about thieves. Like we get it guys, thieves are OP. Join the club, thieves trash everyone. And that is 1 bad match up. Vs everyone else a mesmer brings so much more OP stuff.

RabidCoqui.1983:

So every profession takes no skill to play?

Basically every meta spec is brainless, based around passive procs, spam and 1 spam.

You just described the entirety of GW2…

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

So basically no point to this thread. Why not just name it “this game is too easy”, and then post links to your twitch so that everyone can learn from you?

Warriors is not the major issue.

No Random Arena’s (like GW1, get a random team, go until you lose)
Practice Mode punishes practicing something new, rewards what you’re good at.
No Warm Up mode. A mode that should be what practice is right now.
Custom Arena’s lacking the option for Stronghold and Raid on the Capricorn. Custom Arena’s lack of customization.
Skyhammer.

Honestly, a lot of the current pains GW2 PvP currently has, it would be much less painful when entire matches are less painful.

I love Lordrosicky threads. Such hyperbole, much response

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

I wonder why as a main Ranger/Guard players post how easy it’s to play a LB Ranger?

Sure it’s easy to dish out fair dps from a distance at times of 1500r (really our dps doesn’t compare to how fast a thief/ele/etc…can blow a player up in melee), but most arena maps and capture points hardly cater to that playstyle at all. Plus you take in consideration the lack of group boons/cleanses at that range, dmg mitigation, reflects, and all the ranged stuns, condi, and tons of gap closers that can shut down a LB Ranger in a matter of seconds.

No GS block, 6sec physical immune, or standing in HS (pound away!) going to help all that much, especially the way maps are setup. Unlike WvW where we do have a pretty great terrain advantage.

Usually my Guard can shut down a LB Ranger pretty fast in a spvp map with teammates and all other things considered. When I play my Ranger it’s fairly easy to dish out some damage, but staying alive in those maps is a whole other ball game compared to other professions.

-1/10

/15 shouts

Some of those classes/builds you listed are much harder to play then shoutbow. Shoutbow really is the worst combination of easy to play and effective right now.

“I don’t even play warrior”

Signature: casual warrior

Lol I agree that shoutbow is strong and missing skills isn’t as crucial as certain classes but I think the only adjustment should be less vitality. You basically called every spec strong. Are we just supposed to use kittenty builds and pray that someone dies?

brannigan.9831:

Lordrosicky.5813:

StickerHappy.8052:

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

You forgot turret engie. MM necro.

Those builds suck so no point including them

Some of those classes are much harder to play then shoutbow.

Isn’t that why he rated them?

hmmm…

while most poeple hate and just laugh at the daily lordrosicky thread,

i cannot feel anything but sad cz hes not wrong.

• passive shoutbot and d/p are getting demigod buffed
• even the quality of life changes are going in favor of thief (F2 today) , leaving mesmer gs#2 but nerfing necro axe WTF!?!
• theres a lot of broken passives that could be removed without a “6month anet balance meeting”

RabidCoqui.1983:

So every profession takes no skill to play?

Except necromancer, it takes a baller amount of skill.

Flumek.9043:

hmmm…

while most poeple hate and just laugh at the daily lordrosicky thread,

i cannot feel anything but sad cz hes not wrong.

• passive shoutbot and d/p are getting demigod buffed
• even the quality of life changes are going in favor of thief (F2 today) , leaving mesmer gs#2 but nerfing necro axe WTF!?!
• theres a lot of broken passives that could be removed without a “6month anet balance meeting”

He is the expert and master of hyperbole.

Lost me at “Staff ele takes no skill.”

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lost me at “Staff ele takes no skill.”

Literally just learn a rotation and spam it on a point. It is so basic. The most braindead of all because it takes no situational skill

The only thing I hate about shoutbows is the banner. People started to run 2 shoutbows per team and you can’t interrupt both banners. So it becomes extremely annoying having to kill people 8 times instead of 2 because of the banner and sometimes it wins the team fight for free or even a 2v2 .

I really think the banner is OP in conquest when there’s 2 shoutbows on one team. 1 warrior is OK you can just stick to him like a glue and spam interrupts until he realizes his banner is useless but 2 warriors is freaking cancer. Especially in solo Q.

And about thief…. There’s a pretty easy fix/nerf. Just cap stealth duration to 5 seconds. So people can’t reset the fight or 1 shot group stealth from very far away. Also nerf improv and air/fire. Without that thief wouldn’t be godmode.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Spamming shouts. No skill. Running around like idiots. About 15 OP utilities. Every weapon set is amazing. Even I could run warrior and do very well and I never play it. It is that brainless.

They dont even run impale even though its broken, because all their other stuff is broken. They have a gear advantage on you due to celestial. Lol you dont think its OP ok anet.

They have healing signet which has zero counterplay. You cant interrupt it yet it heals for a billion? Makes no sense. Please add that to every class if this is the case. Necro consume condition should also be instant cast so should ranger heals. Warrior doesn’t even need uninterruptable heals as they have a ton of stability.

Banner has not enough counter play. A 2 second cast is too short for such a strong skill. Should be 3 seconds. Just because the other broken class, thief, can do instant, no cool down, ranged interrupts does not mean that a 2 second cast on a res which is only an elite is fair. Clue: Headshot and withdraw are broken OP too.

Even their unused stuff like sword offhand, greatsword, rifle, mace, shield = good. Rampage is so strong, stop buffing it already too.

How long is long enough? Why are they are allowed to be the best class in basically every game mode for 2 years in a row? Give someone else a chance kitten . Same with thief too btw. Broken with zero counter play too.

Thief and warrior = ruin gw2.

What is next, try to “nerf” thief/warrior and actually buff them by mistake as usual?

Show me on the doll where the warrior touched you.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lost me at “Staff ele takes no skill.”

Literally just learn a rotation and spam it on a point. It is so basic. The most braindead of all because it takes no situational skill

… Wait, have you ever actually played a Staff ele in anything outside of hotjoin?

No build takes skill if you have the opportunity to just sit back and spam. Staff eles get focused hard so knowing how to defend yourself, what every skill actually does, how to properly attunement swap, and when to use CC takes a lot of time.

so much tears man :’D. i give you a point for being high reward low risk but, even a half legged beaver is able to interript a skill with 2 sec cast on a stabilityless class. the point is that the iterrupted skills shoud have way more cd on them at least lets say 1/4 of the original cd + the 3 sec. (stow weapon shoud reamain 3)
actually other warrior builds than shoutbow need the health from the signet you conseder op. what you want is to reduce the heal of the shouts and the base hp pool of the build.

also seeing that some ppl consider all the meta builds eZ to play && LBranger requires 2x more skill than DD ele or S/d thief (which are obviously top 7 eZ to play) makes me a bit sad… #PermaInvulnMesmers. I fear there are mad geniusses in this game mastering all the professions. PEOPLE WE HAVE TO L2P!!!!!

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

do you play this game…at all?

the only thing i have to say i hate about warriors is rampage. The CD is way too small. for example mesmer can use moa to get rid of a rampage but moa’s cd is 180s, goes on cool down if evaded, and can be interrupted. Rampage has a cd of 150s and cant be evaded and is really just a push to win button……on an already easy class. And yes rampage is better than banner in pug groups.

yepp, Shoutbow is stupid and too strong, agreed, but basically all the rest you spewed out in your posts in this thread are absolute nonsense…. -.-°

We have manage to turn another person onto the path of righteous hatred. Rejoice fellow thieves! We may be carried in game by runes/sigils/passives, but our psychological warfare is still top notch. OP, may your filthy banter continue uninterrupted , your rage is the only thing we thieves have left. thank you.

nice troll thread though you managed to catch a few people

Yall rock up an say the warriors support bunker build is hard to kill? Ya think that is worth pointing out?

It’s a shout heal build bud. It’s a group healer in heavy armour, it’s built to be hard to kill it’s the purpose.

Ah, but it’s too faceroll you say. Well, I’ve two responses to that. Firstly is that this a build is the opposite of d/p thief and power necro, in that it’s easy to stay alive on it but harder to kill people. Killing with a shoutbow is much harder than killing with a zerk (obviously killing zerkers who don’t dodge will still be easy, but those are free kills so), but conversely it’s easier to stay alive. Secondly, it’s not faceroll if you fight good players. Unless the build hardcounters that of your opponent no fight where you are both equally skilled should be easy, well unless you are both really bad. Good players will be a challenge regardless of the build you’re running, and scrubs will make everything faceroll. It’s the quality of the opponent that dictates the skill needed to win.

And, not being able to interrupt a 2 sec banner cast….. buddy I’m sorry

choovanski.5462:

Yall rock up an say the warriors support bunker build is hard to kill? Ya think that is worth pointing out?

It’s a shout heal build bud. It’s a group healer in heavy armour, it’s built to be hard to kill it’s the purpose.

Ah, but it’s too faceroll you say. Well, I’ve two responses to that. Firstly is that this a build is the opposite of d/p thief and power necro, in that it’s easy to stay alive on it but harder to kill people. Killing with a shoutbow is much harder than killing with a zerk (obviously killing zerkers who don’t dodge will still be easy, but those are free kills so), but conversely it’s easier to stay alive. Secondly, it’s not faceroll if you fight good players. Unless the build hardcounters that of your opponent no fight where you are both equally skilled should be easy, well unless you are both really bad. Good players will be a challenge regardless of the build you’re running, and scrubs will make everything faceroll. It’s the quality of the opponent that dictates the skill needed to win.

And, not being able to interrupt a 2 sec banner cast….. buddy I’m sorry

If you play shoutbow and struggle to dominate totally then you are playing vs people way better than you. If I was a warrior main I would dominate every game I was in, espicially as I wouldnt of quit for most of the last 12 months.

Shoutbow does massive damage. Even ressing vs 1 shoutbow is hard because of the damage they have. Totally ridiculous.

This game = passive sigils and stealth spikes by classes which port around. Passive procs by power necro/dps guardian. And celestial specs who just have 40% more stats. Who needs gear grind when you have celestial?

It is a joke. This games balance is so bad. Power creep to the extreme. More to come. I would love to see the devs actually play the game vs any semi resonable people and see how much FUN they have getting spiked by a thief/mesmer 1 shot. It really is crap gameplay.

Unkillable stat advantage celestials or sigil spikes out of nowhere.

But dhumfire needs nerfing/removing right? Because there is so much counter play to getting spiked for 25k out of stealth by mesmer/thief

Lordrosicky.5813:

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Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lost me at “Staff ele takes no skill.”

Literally just learn a rotation and spam it on a point. It is so basic. The most braindead of all because it takes no situational skill

… Wait, have you ever actually played a Staff ele in anything outside of hotjoin?

No build takes skill if you have the opportunity to just sit back and spam. Staff eles get focused hard so knowing how to defend yourself, what every skill actually does, how to properly attunement swap, and when to use CC takes a lot of time.

You literally could close you eyes once on a point and play staff ele. Press the buttons in the order they need to be pressed to do aoe and blast your fields. So easy

Lordrosicky.5813:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lost me at “Staff ele takes no skill.”

Literally just learn a rotation and spam it on a point. It is so basic. The most braindead of all because it takes no situational skill

… Wait, have you ever actually played a Staff ele in anything outside of hotjoin?

No build takes skill if you have the opportunity to just sit back and spam. Staff eles get focused hard so knowing how to defend yourself, what every skill actually does, how to properly attunement swap, and when to use CC takes a lot of time.

You literally could close you eyes once on a point and play staff ele. Press the buttons in the order they need to be pressed to do aoe and blast your fields. So easy

Would be interesting that you post a live-film which you’re closing your eyes and play a staff Ele without dying on a node for at least 3 minutes.

Man they just need to un-nerf turret engis so everybody can feel that they are playing a skillfull build compared to the turreters .

glock.6590:

Man they just need to un-nerf turret engis so everybody can feel that they are playing a skillfull build compared to the turreters .

Turrets was the dumbest spec. But it is only as skill-less as most of the meta

necromancer QQ….Next!

Jelzouki.4128:

“I don’t even play warrior”

Signature: casual warrior

Lol

Lordrosicky.5813:

Thief and warrior = ruin gw2.

What is next, try to “nerf” thief/warrior and actually buff them by mistake as usual?

I’ll join because of that. What have we done other than not allow every class to use initiative??

Sagat.3285:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Thief and warrior = ruin gw2.

What is next, try to “nerf” thief/warrior and actually buff them by mistake as usual?

I’ll join because of that. What have we done other than not allow every class to use initiative??

i wonder how many ppl saw f2 change for steal…. i am rather surprised there is no flood of qq yet~

as far as warriors go… i actually find warriors generally surprisingly balanced in comparison (even if braindead sometimes)… they have strong sides and weaknesses at least….

on other hand, celestial amy and some sigils/runes need a nerf though

Lordrosicky.5813:

brannigan.9831:

I agree its no skill pretty much. Probably disagree how unbalanced it is but I feel like its a type of build that is rewarded too much low skill low risk build should be the weakest type of build.

The following builds take no skill/little skill and I will rank in order of how little skill they take:
1, Staff ele – There is a reason all the newbs play this
2, Shoutbow
3, Power necro – 1 spam and passives
4, D/P thief – 2 buttons = kill anything
5, Hammer dps guardian – like a 3 button combo that my granny could do
6, S/D thief – spam, no cd management
7, d/d ele – takes more skill than those above
8, Celestial engi – pretty much just spam
9, Bunker guardian – the original brainless spec
10, longbow ranger – spamming from 1500 range takes no skill

So that means this whole meta takes no skill. And mesmer is fairly brainless. Porting around like a clown abusing bugs and having perma invulnerability = no skill. Although it does take a little skill I give mesmers that. The bad ones suck alot. But its still too storng vs everything in the game except thief.

Okay. First off if every class has op/no skill kitten then why do we need to nerf war/thief

Look at all the ad hominem in this thread. I wonder why? It only validates the OP. If you think this meta is fine you need a lobotomy.

Brigg.6189:

I love Lordrosicky threads. Such hyperbole, much response

Yeah. He is good at posting threads that make zero sense but still cause people to respond to them. It’s like hearing tires screech and you listen to see if there is a crash. Makes the forums more fun though.

I was watching teldo stream today playing his old bomb/flamethrower/elixir R build, and it honestly reminded me of a time when in the game when the hardest/highest skill builds were used by the best teams because they could out-perform easier builds. Nowadays, the lowest-risk builds ARE the the highest reward, and that makes me sad.

You know what they say “s**t runs downhill.” Everyone is going to flock to the easiest/most effective builds.

You almost had me for a second, until you started mouthing off about mesmers.

Since the discussion in this thread is no longer constructive this thread is now closed.