No, they encourage bad habits and playstyles. Pets/turrets/etc should be soley for utility.
Because you want? Summoner playstyle is as legit as any other.
No, because it’s better for the future of the game if pets/turrets aren’t a viable form of damage since they’re uncontrolled damage.
Do you have anything to prove your assumptions? How do you know what is better for the future of the game? For me it looks like it is just your own opinion. What is good or bad is subjective.
Exactly this. In many games Summoning type classes require an excess of skill, are some of the most unique classes and above all, are just fun to play. GW2 could use more active play with pets, there’s really no denying that. I’ve been pushing for MMs to have less passive damage and more put into their actives for a while now. Its just not in the resources or care for the devs it seems. Unfortunately, it wouldn’t matter anyways because as it stands, AOE, Bugs and AI are complete MM killers regardless, something you probably wouldn’t understand unless you played it rather than having only an outside-looking-in view- Shiyo.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
What’s the point of complaining about engis? ANET has made them OP for a long time.
First was the decap engi.
Second came the turret engi
Third is the nade spamming rifle engi
They fixed the first, so people moved to the second and the third. They fix the second and everyone will play the third.
It is a broken class. It needs an overhaul.
Those aren’t even firsts. HGH and there were a few other 1 shot builds too.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
glorious were the days of old ICP, juggernaut and kit-refinement…
ICP is fine, but juggernauts current iteration is bugged, and kit-refinement is not even considered in any serious build anymore (superspeed on s/d toolkit builds is still fun, tho)
Engineer is love, Engineer is life.
Lol exactly. I do like the kitten from one of the engies though. :P
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
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The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
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The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
Well Rocket Turret already isn’t very durable. If someone were attempting to use it in a build that isn’t a turret build, having it nerfed would make the possibilities of such a build less viable. If there were legitimate reasons to nerf it then sure, but nerfing the possible use of turrets in other builds simply because people don’t like playing against full turret builds is an illogical decision.
Well, yes, but the damage is way too high
It’s the same like they did for might; might was OP on eles,engi and warrs and they nerfed it, punishing all other classes
I would be down either reduce the Knockdown duration or a damage nerf, because a bunker shouldnt be able to kill imo
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The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
Well Rocket Turret already isn’t very durable. If someone were attempting to use it in a build that isn’t a turret build, having it nerfed would make the possibilities of such a build less viable. If there were legitimate reasons to nerf it then sure, but nerfing the possible use of turrets in other builds simply because people don’t like playing against full turret builds is an illogical decision.
It’s easier to look at warriors. Pretty much every warrior build got hammered because of Hambow back in the day. All of the adrenaline nerfs, Healing signet, etc. Arguably not needed for other builds, but they were generic enough to affect many.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
Well Rocket Turret already isn’t very durable. If someone were attempting to use it in a build that isn’t a turret build, having it nerfed would make the possibilities of such a build less viable. If there were legitimate reasons to nerf it then sure, but nerfing the possible use of turrets in other builds simply because people don’t like playing against full turret builds is an illogical decision.
Well, yes, but the damage is way too high
It’s the same like they did for might; might was OP on eles,engi and warrs and they nerfed it, punishing all other classes
I would be down either reduce the Knockdown duration or a damage nerf, because a bunker shouldnt be able to kill imo
1,429 every 4 seconds on a projectile that is easily dodged/reflected coming from a turret that is easily destroyed and has a 50 sec cooldown, no nerf needed. The only people that die to this are those that rush in to fight the engi while completely ignoring the turrets, and those people deserve to die to this.
I have often wondered that. Why people feel its dps is so absurd. 1400 every 4 seconds really isnt that… amazing if you ask me. its okay though. And its not that hard to kill unless you’re a condi player, in which case you have the advantage over the engineer itself.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
Well Rocket Turret already isn’t very durable. If someone were attempting to use it in a build that isn’t a turret build, having it nerfed would make the possibilities of such a build less viable. If there were legitimate reasons to nerf it then sure, but nerfing the possible use of turrets in other builds simply because people don’t like playing against full turret builds is an illogical decision.
Well, yes, but the damage is way too high
It’s the same like they did for might; might was OP on eles,engi and warrs and they nerfed it, punishing all other classes
I would be down either reduce the Knockdown duration or a damage nerf, because a bunker shouldnt be able to kill imo
1,429 every 4 seconds on a projectile that is easily dodged/reflected coming from a turret that is easily destroyed and has a 50 sec cooldown, no nerf needed. The only people that die to this are those that rush in to fight the engi while completely ignoring the turrets, and those people deserve to die to this.
I stay with the opinion that bunkers shouldn’t be able to kill.
The rocket turret hits me for 3-4k and it follows + the range is insane.
If you’re immobilized, which happens often, you can’t dodge those and I’m fine with that
But I’m not fine with the fact it punishes really hard while doing almost nothing at all
I barely get killed by a Turret Engi head on, but seeing how much it punishes our team when 1 or 2 teammembers die to it, is too much imo
And that all for 1 bunker
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The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
Well Rocket Turret already isn’t very durable. If someone were attempting to use it in a build that isn’t a turret build, having it nerfed would make the possibilities of such a build less viable. If there were legitimate reasons to nerf it then sure, but nerfing the possible use of turrets in other builds simply because people don’t like playing against full turret builds is an illogical decision.
Well, yes, but the damage is way too high
It’s the same like they did for might; might was OP on eles,engi and warrs and they nerfed it, punishing all other classes
I would be down either reduce the Knockdown duration or a damage nerf, because a bunker shouldnt be able to kill imo
1,429 every 4 seconds on a projectile that is easily dodged/reflected coming from a turret that is easily destroyed and has a 50 sec cooldown, no nerf needed. The only people that die to this are those that rush in to fight the engi while completely ignoring the turrets, and those people deserve to die to this.
I have often wondered that. Why people feel its dps is so absurd. 1400 every 4 seconds really isnt that… amazing if you ask me. its okay though. And its not that hard to kill unless you’re a condi player, in which case you have the advantage over the engineer itself.
You need to see it as a whole. The damage indicator says 1400 damage, excluding the damage it really does. It hits light armor for about 3-4k + rifle attacks from engi + flame turret + thumper turret..
It’s actually too much for being a bunker
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The only thing in my opinion that needs to be toned down on turret engi is the Knockdown duration and the rocket turret’s damage
You do things like this though and you start to mess with builds that may take a turret but are not full turrets, all for no legitimate reason.
What do you mean? Sorry, don’t understand :p
Well Rocket Turret already isn’t very durable. If someone were attempting to use it in a build that isn’t a turret build, having it nerfed would make the possibilities of such a build less viable. If there were legitimate reasons to nerf it then sure, but nerfing the possible use of turrets in other builds simply because people don’t like playing against full turret builds is an illogical decision.
Well, yes, but the damage is way too high
It’s the same like they did for might; might was OP on eles,engi and warrs and they nerfed it, punishing all other classes
I would be down either reduce the Knockdown duration or a damage nerf, because a bunker shouldnt be able to kill imo
1,429 every 4 seconds on a projectile that is easily dodged/reflected coming from a turret that is easily destroyed and has a 50 sec cooldown, no nerf needed. The only people that die to this are those that rush in to fight the engi while completely ignoring the turrets, and those people deserve to die to this.
I have often wondered that. Why people feel its dps is so absurd. 1400 every 4 seconds really isnt that… amazing if you ask me. its okay though. And its not that hard to kill unless you’re a condi player, in which case you have the advantage over the engineer itself.
You need to see it as a whole. The damage indicator says 1400 damage, excluding the damage it really does. It hits light armor for about 3-4k + rifle attacks from engi + flame turret + thumper turret..
It’s actually too much for being a bunker
I’d have to test that. I don’t really recall ever seeing numbers that large, but I’m fine with being corrected.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
3-4k from rocket turret is complete BS.
^^This here. Post screenshots or complete BS.
I’ll screenshot when I face a turret engi and get hit
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3-4k from rocket turret is complete BS.
^^This here. Post screenshots or complete BS.
I’ll screenshot when I face a turret engi and get hit
nope, you make a screenshot of your combat log after being hit by the rocket-turret and show us the damage dealt from each skill. Because what I think is that you got hit by the turrets overcharge, were knocked on the ground, and the engi himself used rifle-jump to land on your head.
Turrets can’t crit, and their max dmg is 1.6k (rocket-turret). whatever has hit you there, it was most probably not a turret.
Engineer is love, Engineer is life.
3-4k from rocket turret is complete BS.
^^This here. Post screenshots or complete BS.
I’ll screenshot when I face a turret engi and get hit
nope, you make a screenshot of your combat log after being hit by the rocket-turret and show us the damage dealt from each skill. Because what I think is that you got hit by the turrets overcharge, were knocked on the ground, and the engi himself used rifle-jump to land on your head.
Turrets can’t crit, and their max dmg is 1.6k (rocket-turret). whatever has hit you there, it was most probably not a turret.
Well I meant SS’ing the combat log ofcourse.
However, it could be true it was something else hitting me at same time, I sure remember yesterday being hit for 3k on my mesmer when the rocket was flying right into my face.
Will keep u guys posted
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Seriously.
How long do we have to take this?
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As long as it takes to get mad about something else, probably. It’s not “OP” and annoying isn’t a reason to obliterate something. As far as I see it, leave stuff alone.
High Warlord Sikari (80 Reaper) / Lord Siekron (80 DH)
Warlord Sikari (80 Scrapper)
a engineer player give me this, so i will share in forum. Watch Careful!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-t-6zFR_GA
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