08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Miiaah.5416

Miiaah.5416

then maybe you two servers should jus get the hell out and make way for kaineng and blackgate, the true tier one servers

Having fought Blackgate for far more weeks than you. I can safely say that they have less coverage than JQ and their NA presence isn’t as good either. They belong in T1 of SoS most likely. They have better coverage than SoR but a far worse NA crew, so I am not so sure they ‘deserve’ T1 and more than SoR despite all the Pvdoor they did for numerous weeks uncontested to run up score.

That was a long time ago my friend. Blackgates guilds are far more improved then the days of being in tier 2. We are far more battle tested then you are seeing as this is your first stint in tier 1. Get ready for that third place spot when bg returns to tier 1 my friend

I like your confidence but trust me SoR is much stronger than BG now even with your recent transfers from foE and AGG.

I’m pretty sure Blackgates perfect 11-0 record against SoR says otherwise but you can keep thinking what you want to make yourself feel better.

To be fair, 9 of those wins were against our doors.

What timezone was this, I remember week after week of SEA/Oceanic fights where 30 SoR would wipe 2-3 times then leave the map after breakout events against equal numbers. Maybe you guys are talking EU. It seems we will find out soon enough

Are you saying that your entire oceanic/sea presence consisted of 30 people? I am pretty sure you got a guild from SoR that was bigger than that by themselves.

I don’t play during sea/oceanic hours generally, but from the few times I did then, I can tell you that 30 people was pushing it as total for all maps combined. This means that your perception may be a little skewed due to lack of perspective. If you have 30 people total on 4 BLs fighting hundreds from BG, of course they are going to have to hop maps frequently. This was evidenced by what I saw when I was able to play those hours.

Heck I remember one day 5 of us were running around your BL farming groups of 15-20 until your entire zerg decided to track us down and follow us all over the map. Made for a lot of fun trying to dodge 80 of you with everyone in our zone (the 5 of us).

Edit: Anyways, it is unfortunate that even your superior coverage (compared to ours then) wasn’t enough to put a dent in JQ either as evidenced by them ticking away on you at 600+ too. Maybe between the two of our servers, we can put a dent in some of these other time slots once you get back to T1.

I remember even fights, I remember The time I preferred to play was 3 hours spans kind of all over the day because we run a 380 acre ranch that allows me to change up my timeslots to anything I want and I really don’t recall SoR not having coverage to fend off our groups of 15-25. I’m talking IoJ and fresh TC days and I’m lucky I can remember that far back. I remember some PvDoor but it seemed it was from frustration on getting beat down and casual players leaving the map, it happened to BG in T1 oh so often. We would have 30 on a map, have SoS pull one of their culling bombs on them and half the pugs went back to Orr to farm gold. I think coverage and determination are 2 different things but relate directly to each other.

Last night a certain server had 30-40 beating on Bay south gate and I was running around leveling and tagging along with HB and like 15 of us ran through them like microwaved butter, I don’t think they ever returned.

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Look at you already trying to set up a 2v1!

(Be warned, any mention of that when BG is back in T1 will make a thread absolutely explode.)

Oh, by the way… anyone have a score update please?

#TeamJadeQuarry

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Posted by: muekung.2518

muekung.2518

‘’ I really don’t recall SoR not having coverage to fend off our groups of 15-25’’

uh… Nine Dragon can field atleast 20 people
Thai Alliance atleast 15 people
Urge.. I’m not sure, I didnt run with them since after Ruin left ET…(i was scouted Blackgate back then) but i noticed thier number seems to be lower a little bit.

Edit : I’m talking about SEA primetime, if it isnt what you meant, I apologize.

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

I really don’t recall SoR

It appears your recollection is incorrect. Simply put, if there is an even match, you would not every tick away at 600+ every day for several hours. That PPT is only obtainable when one side can field numbers and the other two servers cannot. Attributing it to anything else is kind of silly.

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Posted by: muekung.2518

muekung.2518

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Look at you already trying to set up a 2v1!

(Be warned, any mention of that when BG is back in T1 will make a thread absolutely explode.)

Oh, by the way… anyone have a score update please?

Here you go sir !

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Posted by: Jedbacca.6297

Jedbacca.6297

Not having the numbers, seems to be a very popular excuse for all of the 3 servers in this match to use when they get hit hard.

Just JQ BL last night the only server in the match who had outmanned was SoS.
Not JQ, not SoR.

<3 SF and many others. We had some great fights all night. One of my favorites was when JQ tried for Sunny, and we would push out while having a SoR group behind cutting off the path to the spawn portal. Not to mention fake portals we used, along with playing around.

We def felt the field ::insert unwanted touches here:: of four guilds last night. Good show, it’s something we’re used to. We got to a point where we counted the ppl in mumble, when someone said 19..I was thinking, “hell, we need a bigger boat.”

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Doubtful that any time of teamwork against JQ would ever be performed. There is a lot of animosity between our two servers and people that would be able to influence it. Personally, I wouldn’t want that anyways.

Somehow I suspect that even if we did during non NA peak hours at least, it still wouldn’t put much of a dent in JQ. They were ticking away on you at 600 too if you recall. Heh

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Doubtful that any time of teamwork against JQ would ever be performed. There is a lot of animosity between our two servers and people that would be able to influence it. Personally, I wouldn’t want that anyways.

Somehow I suspect that even if we did during non NA peak hours at least, it still wouldn’t put much of a dent in JQ. They were ticking away on you at 600 too if you recall. Heh

Ah, look at this… trying reverse psychology to organize a 2 v 1. I see how you are, and I see right through your veiled attempt at cleverness sir!

On a more serious note, I’ve heard there’s some bad blood between SoR and BG but not a reason as to why? I think someone mentioned guilds transferring or the like, but that could have been different servers too… or as well…

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Posted by: Miiaah.5416

Miiaah.5416

I really don’t recall SoR

It appears your recollection is incorrect. Simply put, if there is an even match, you would not every tick away at 600+ every day for several hours. That PPT is only obtainable when one side can field numbers and the other two servers cannot. Attributing it to anything else is kind of silly.

I sort of seemed to get in when Thai was trickling in but no commanders, I would get in on a little Patzero (Thai) going to bed it seemed because I level alts in WvW it never seemed I got on early enough and usually got about an hour of his commanding and then I tried to be on when HB showed up for obvious reasons. I tried squeezing in a few hours here and there during NA prime and a little SEA here and there. The only times I remember it seemed bad for SoR was the last hour of Thai but SoR had numbers…….for awhile

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Posted by: Hoots.9564

Hoots.9564

On a more serious note, I’ve heard there’s some bad blood between SoR and BG but not a reason as to why? I think someone mentioned guilds transferring or the like, but that could have been different servers too… or as well…

Bad blood came from BG bragging about winning every week against doors. And I’d guess BG’s hate comes from SoR claiming NA superiority over them and some of there guilds, of course any mention of SoR having a better NA gets BG all tender. I don’t feel any bad blood between us atm, but i’m sure once they come into t1 they will be shooting for us, just like we will be shooting for them, its a love hate relationship.

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Posted by: Barab.9016

Barab.9016

I really enjoyed fighting the new BG last time they were in t1. Their collective attitude was just playing the game. Trolling was down on the WvW thread and over all there was civility. Hopefully it doesnt change much with AGG and FOE moving there.

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

On a more serious note, I’ve heard there’s some bad blood between SoR and BG but not a reason as to why?

Honestly forum drama between some of the usual suspects on both servers as well as drama with some of those that can no longer post on the boards, ever. Some may not recall exactly when or why it started, but I believe it can be traced back to a particular match up thread(s) where a certain server was relentlessly chest thumping about the scoreboard after ticking away uncontested for weeks on end for 16 hours a day at 600+ . Then the initiating server getting upset when the receiving server retaliated repeatedly by farming them nonstop during NA hours. Add those two together, and throw in some attempts to revise history on the originating server, and you have a recipe for bad blood… more so when it involved guild leaders of major influencing WvW guilds.

Who knows really though, it may have started long before then somehow. I was just an observer initially before partaking in the sweet sweet forum drama nectar myself.

Edit: Looks like Hoots answered you first. Going to leave the post up for the sake of posterity.

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Posted by: Miiaah.5416

Miiaah.5416

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Look at you already trying to set up a 2v1!

(Be warned, any mention of that when BG is back in T1 will make a thread absolutely explode.)

Oh, by the way… anyone have a score update please?

Actually I’m saying as long as SoR and BG don’t go full throttle ballistic on each other and take us both out of the game, we should do fine. And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days. Even if SoR and BG both hammered on JQ, I’m sure JQ would be fine. Im sure BG has more distaste for JQ these days than SoR for obvious reasons. My reason was watching them play for second in BGs last stint in T1, I don’t think SoR plays for second, I think they might mirror BG’s assualt anything that moves play style

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

The only times I remember it seemed bad for SoR was the last hour of Thai but SoR had numbers…….for awhile

I agree that it wasn’t always a situation during all non NA hours that we were out manned. I would be lying if I tried to claim that. The reality is though that even when we had some numbers to try and do something, it was still against superior numbers with upgrades structures at their back. In regards to morale, yeah, dealing with that over time that does have an effect on some people.

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days.

See, I am not sure I agree with you here. JQ is full of people that want to crush SoS for whatever reason. Heck, JQ got a large influx of people that transferred there with the sole purpose of crushing SoS.

I cannot imagine them ignoring each other, ever.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

Actually I’m saying as long as SoR and BG don’t go full throttle ballistic on each other and take us both out of the game, we should do fine. And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days. Even if SoR and BG both hammered on JQ, I’m sure JQ would be fine. Im sure BG has more distaste for JQ these days than SoR for obvious reasons. My reason was watching them play for second in BGs last stint in T1, I don’t think SoR plays for second, I think they might mirror BG’s assualt anything that moves play style

I have to admit I don’t recall JQ ever deciding to play for second. Don’t forget that if you’re in third the road to first is through the team currently in second. There are days when they’re the more logical target, until the team in first gets complacent…

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Posted by: Art.9820

Art.9820

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Look at you already trying to set up a 2v1!

(Be warned, any mention of that when BG is back in T1 will make a thread absolutely explode.)

Oh, by the way… anyone have a score update please?

Actually I’m saying as long as SoR and BG don’t go full throttle ballistic on each other and take us both out of the game, we should do fine. And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days. Even if SoR and BG both hammered on JQ, I’m sure JQ would be fine. Im sure BG has more distaste for JQ these days than SoR for obvious reasons. My reason was watching them play for second in BGs last stint in T1, I don’t think SoR plays for second, I think they might mirror BG’s assualt anything that moves play style

I’m pretty sure SoS and JQ pushed against BG cuz of the video HB posted, that if I’m not mentioning the wrong guild, a couple days after that everything went back to normal

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

Yeah there is definitely no love lost between BG and SoR, but I think the majority, with a few exceptions, have cooled down about it. There were several factors involved, but in the end I think it boiled down to both servers being very competitive, having overextended egos, and an almost unhealthy amount of server pride. Each server couldn’t stand reading something they didn’t agree with, and lashed back in some form of defense. I think a lot of it was also based on both servers going into the very first match thinking they were better than each other. There was no groundwork for some initial mutual respect, and any chance at building that groundwork wkittentered early on due to some unfortunate events that transpired at Bay.

To me, what transpired over those 8 weeks is in the past, but yes, BG and SoR will be definitely be gunning for each other if we ever meet again. I just hope reports of the confrontations can stay respectful on the forums. Sadly, I don’t think the odds of that are very good heh. But I’ve been wrong many times before, and will be many times more.

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Posted by: Miiaah.5416

Miiaah.5416

And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days.

See, I am not sure I agree with you here. JQ is full of people that want to crush SoS for whatever reason. Heck, JQ got a large influx of people that transferred there with the sole purpose of crushing SoS.

I cannot imagine them ignoring each other, ever.

Trust me, it happened big time, at least while I was on. On EBG JQ parked itself at Ogres camp the whole week and went for Pang and Ogres relentlessly but you never saw a bit of action Quentin/Klovan way. When BG would go for SM and try and push SoS out and actually do it, JQ was always there for the aftermath. JQ might have went after an SM controlled by SoS maybe once I recall. When it was a BG controlled SM…….JQ had little trouble attacking SM.

And then onto BGBL Garrison until BG finally broke after 3 days of no walls and constant Lord room barrages timed so perfectly only once did SoS and JQ meet outside in the alcove straight out the north door and SoS had siege on the left and JQ on the right. Ask Thai about those battles, but it was the most fun ever in T1 so It didn’t matter and actually made for some great map chat. BG just continued to fight everyone until their outmanned and watch the perfect green and blue line form right down the middle. Ask people from SBI about JQ not attacking SoS and playing for second, I figured they were crazy until I watched it in person. Nothing wrong with it, it appeared as a great strategy for keeping yourself in second for months

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Posted by: moolie.5927

moolie.5927

And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days.

See, I am not sure I agree with you here. JQ is full of people that want to crush SoS for whatever reason. Heck, JQ got a large influx of people that transferred there with the sole purpose of crushing SoS.

I cannot imagine them ignoring each other, ever.

Trust me, it happened big time, at least while I was on. On EBG JQ parked itself at Ogres camp the whole week and went for Pang and Ogres relentlessly but you never saw a bit of action Quentin/Klovan way. When BG would go for SM and try and push SoS out and actually do it, JQ was always there for the aftermath. JQ might have went after an SM controlled by SoS maybe once I recall. When it was a BG controlled SM…….JQ had little trouble attacking SM.

And then onto BGBL Garrison until BG finally broke after 3 days of no walls and constant Lord room barrages timed so perfectly only once did SoS and JQ meet outside in the alcove straight out the north door and SoS had siege on the left and JQ on the right. Ask Thai about those battles, but it was the most fun ever in T1 so It didn’t matter and actually made for some great map chat. BG just continued to fight everyone until their outmanned and watch the perfect green and blue line form right down the middle. Ask people from SBI about JQ not attacking SoS and playing for second, I figured they were crazy until I watched it in person. Nothing wrong with it, it appeared as a great strategy for keeping yourself in second for months

The EB situation was simple. Hylek area was essentially what you could compare to a North Korea/South Korea border. Unfortunately Pangloss was just so much easier to hit because of the lack of defenses there. I could probably say the same for SoS hitting Speldan, it’s easier to take than Danelon because we sieged the heck out of that place.

Just another careless bird.

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Posted by: Godsend.3815

Godsend.3815

Yeah there is definitely no love lost between BG and SoR, but I think the majority, with a few exceptions, have cooled down about it. There were several factors involved, but in the end I think it boiled down to both servers being very competitive, having overextended egos, and an almost unhealthy amount of server pride. Each server couldn’t stand reading something they didn’t agree with, and lashed back in some form of defense. I think a lot of it was also based on both servers going into the very first match thinking they were better than each other. There was no groundwork for some initial mutual respect, and any chance at building that groundwork wkittentered early on due to some unfortunate events that transpired at Bay.

To me, what transpired over those 8 weeks is in the past, but yes, BG and SoR will be definitely be gunning for each other if we ever meet again. I just hope reports of the confrontations can stay respectful on the forums. Sadly, I don’t think the odds of that are very good heh. But I’ve been wrong many times before, and will be many times more.

If/When we’ll meet up with BG again, both servers will not be the same as they were during their stint in T2. Therefore SoR/BG 2.0 will be hungry to see how we fair against each other.

As far as “civility” on the forums go, it’s just a matter of which forum PvPer(s) from either server takes the plunge and posts some passive aggressive jab at the other server after an eventful showdown of some sort. As slight as it may be, one just has to read between the lines to find that slight jab and it’ll snowball from there. Perhaps even rehashing old kitten posts from the past.

I sincerely hope i’m wrong.

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Posted by: Nuked.2360

Nuked.2360

And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days.

See, I am not sure I agree with you here. JQ is full of people that want to crush SoS for whatever reason. Heck, JQ got a large influx of people that transferred there with the sole purpose of crushing SoS.

I cannot imagine them ignoring each other, ever.

Trust me, it happened big time, at least while I was on. On EBG JQ parked itself at Ogres camp the whole week and went for Pang and Ogres relentlessly but you never saw a bit of action Quentin/Klovan way. When BG would go for SM and try and push SoS out and actually do it, JQ was always there for the aftermath. JQ might have went after an SM controlled by SoS maybe once I recall. When it was a BG controlled SM…….JQ had little trouble attacking SM.

And then onto BGBL Garrison until BG finally broke after 3 days of no walls and constant Lord room barrages timed so perfectly only once did SoS and JQ meet outside in the alcove straight out the north door and SoS had siege on the left and JQ on the right. Ask Thai about those battles, but it was the most fun ever in T1 so It didn’t matter and actually made for some great map chat. BG just continued to fight everyone until their outmanned and watch the perfect green and blue line form right down the middle. Ask people from SBI about JQ not attacking SoS and playing for second, I figured they were crazy until I watched it in person. Nothing wrong with it, it appeared as a great strategy for keeping yourself in second for months

The EB situation was simple. Hylek area was essentially what you could compare to a North Korea/South Korea border. Unfortunately Pangloss was just so much easier to hit because of the lack of defenses there. I could probably say the same for SoS hitting Speldan, it’s easier to take than Danelon because we sieged the heck out of that place.

This plus Tsym or whoever was running during NA prime had a defensive zerg persay literally sitting in hylek’s. It’s just that simple by them placing a defensive group on one front to stop small groups from flipping their camps even you were sort of forced to push north where it was weaker.

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Posted by: DivineBeing.2086

DivineBeing.2086

Wow, I wonder which posts are completely bias’d?

“Started with chest thumping from a particular server that pvdoor’d uncontestedly for 16 hours”…

The truth is, SoR is extremely prideful (extremely) of their NA coverage and believe they should be in tier 1. BG’s SEA coverage completely obliterated SoR which made it impossible for SoR to move up.

That is the truth. Now, who started the forum wars is really up in the air andhonestly does not matter.

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Posted by: Orikx.9671

Orikx.9671

Wow, I wonder which posts are completely bias’d?

“Started with chest thumping from a particular server that pvdoor’d uncontestedly for 16 hours”…

The truth is, SoR is extremely prideful (extremely) of their NA coverage and believe they should be in tier 1. BG’s SEA coverage completely obliterated SoR which made it impossible for SoR to move up.

That is the truth. Now, who started the forum wars is really up in the air andhonestly does not matter.

Please don’t take the bait SoR.

Orikx
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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

Not having the numbers, seems to be a very popular excuse for all of the 3 servers in this match to use when they get hit hard.

Just JQ BL last night the only server in the match who had outmanned was SoS.
Not JQ, not SoR.

<3 SF and many others. We had some great fights all night. One of my favorites was when JQ tried for Sunny, and we would push out while having a SoR group behind cutting off the path to the spawn portal. Not to mention fake portals we used, along with playing around.

We def felt the field ::insert unwanted touches here:: of four guilds last night. Good show, it’s something we’re used to. We got to a point where we counted the ppl in mumble, when someone said 19..I was thinking, “hell, we need a bigger boat.”

You were LATE to the party Jed!
We had to punish SF instead, but we just wanted you to come to the party on time for once!

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Wow, I wonder which posts are completely bias’d?

“Started with chest thumping from a particular server that pvdoor’d uncontestedly for 16 hours”…

The truth is, SoR is extremely prideful (extremely) of their NA coverage and believe they should be in tier 1. BG’s SEA coverage completely obliterated SoR which made it impossible for SoR to move up.

That is the truth. Now, who started the forum wars is really up in the air andhonestly does not matter.

No bias or revisionism. Simple truth that can be easily discerned by looking at old threads. No need to debate it really. It simply is what it is.

I am a little confused though, if we didn’t believe that we belonged in T1, we wouldn’t be here now We would back back in T2 with you.

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Posted by: Miiaah.5416

Miiaah.5416

And JQ really can’t say anything about a double team, BGs first week back to T1 was literally Benny Hill ridiculous the way JQ threw everything they had at BG and never touched SoS for at least the first 4-5 days.

See, I am not sure I agree with you here. JQ is full of people that want to crush SoS for whatever reason. Heck, JQ got a large influx of people that transferred there with the sole purpose of crushing SoS.

I cannot imagine them ignoring each other, ever.

Trust me, it happened big time, at least while I was on. On EBG JQ parked itself at Ogres camp the whole week and went for Pang and Ogres relentlessly but you never saw a bit of action Quentin/Klovan way. When BG would go for SM and try and push SoS out and actually do it, JQ was always there for the aftermath. JQ might have went after an SM controlled by SoS maybe once I recall. When it was a BG controlled SM…….JQ had little trouble attacking SM.

And then onto BGBL Garrison until BG finally broke after 3 days of no walls and constant Lord room barrages timed so perfectly only once did SoS and JQ meet outside in the alcove straight out the north door and SoS had siege on the left and JQ on the right. Ask Thai about those battles, but it was the most fun ever in T1 so It didn’t matter and actually made for some great map chat. BG just continued to fight everyone until their outmanned and watch the perfect green and blue line form right down the middle. Ask people from SBI about JQ not attacking SoS and playing for second, I figured they were crazy until I watched it in person. Nothing wrong with it, it appeared as a great strategy for keeping yourself in second for months

The EB situation was simple. Hylek area was essentially what you could compare to a North Korea/South Korea border. Unfortunately Pangloss was just so much easier to hit because of the lack of defenses there. I could probably say the same for SoS hitting Speldan, it’s easier to take than Danelon because we sieged the heck out of that place.

This plus Tsym or whoever was running during NA prime had a defensive zerg persay literally sitting in hylek’s. It’s just that simple by them placing a defensive group on one front to stop small groups from flipping their camps even you were sort of forced to push north where it was weaker.

I’m not talking primetime, I’m talking 24/7 which I have the luxury of seeing because of my “Job”. There was no lack of defense at Ogre, there was full time scouts there and we all know it takes less than a minute to have 20 in there. There were swords at Ogre for 7 days, were there ever swords at Klovan? The explanation on SM strategy was the one I was curious about since that’s really the motherload for map strategy and and BG treated it as much and had holes in the walls continuously, I can’t count the pushes BG made for SM those weeks but that scenario played out exactly the same to the point of boredom.

Some say it was HB’s video but I highly doubt a fairly mild video had any effect on the positioning I witnessed. It’s all good to go after the weakest link but since BG started most of those matches in the lead for most the weekend I guess the weak link strategy started on Sunday night then and that’s why the perfect blue/green map splits occurred. I do know it completely changed BGs play style during those weeks and it was a real snore fest during long spans of complete defensive stands on BGBL and EBG. Its a great strat on JQs side and it worked for months according to some from SBI that saw exactly the same thing. I know Kaineng could have tried this in T2 but they came after BG fast and furious and still do and it keeps them in 2nd and allows TC to try and help.

Its all fun anyway and now that JQ is King I’m sure they would love a full on doubletam from BG and SoR, hopefully they get it and T1 ends in a dead heat to make WvW exciting for a whole week instead of 3 – 4 days

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08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Nuked.2360

Nuked.2360

Wow, the same suspects who ruined the IoJ/BG/SoR, TC/BG/SoR/, SoR/SBI/TC threads have now ruined the JQ/SoR/SoS thread.

And people think coincidences are overrated :P But yea I think we all know what caused the thread to go down hill.

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08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Odd, every time this thread seems to return to normal, some random person from a certain T2 server stops by to stoke the flames. Even more amusing given the drama these very same people caused in the past.

Mr. Nuked, I agree… coincidences are not always overrated.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Vodka.3958

Vodka.3958

Odd, every time this thread seems to return to normal, some random person from a certain T2 server stops by to stoke the flames. Even more amusing given the drama these very same people caused in the past.

He was just pointing out his observation and wasn’t pointing any fingers, covenn. No need to get defensive bro

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08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

And they say the hate between SoR and BG has died down…

Don’t make me laugh.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

Wow, the same suspects who ruined the IoJ/BG/SoR, TC/BG/SoR/, SoR/SBI/TC threads have now ruined the JQ/SoR/SoS thread.

And people think coincidences are overrated :P But yea I think we all know what caused the thread to go down hill.

You know… there does seem to be something in common between those four match-ups… but I can’t quite put my finger on it…

#TeamJadeQuarry

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Odd, every time this thread seems to return to normal, some random person from a certain T2 server stops by to stoke the flames. Even more amusing given the drama these very same people caused in the past.

He was just pointing out his observation and wasn’t pointing any fingers, covenn. No need to get defensive bro

Who is getting defensive bro? I am just pointing something out. Speaking of what I was pointing out…. I appreciate you popping by and making my case for me

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Porky.5021

Porky.5021

Okay. I think it’s time to say something.

bacon.

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08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: DivineBeing.2086

DivineBeing.2086

Wow, I wonder which posts are completely bias’d?

“Started with chest thumping from a particular server that pvdoor’d uncontestedly for 16 hours”…

The truth is, SoR is extremely prideful (extremely) of their NA coverage and believe they should be in tier 1. BG’s SEA coverage completely obliterated SoR which made it impossible for SoR to move up.

That is the truth. Now, who started the forum wars is really up in the air andhonestly does not matter.

Please don’t take the bait SoR.

Please state if I am lying about the fact BG used your coverage gap to their advantage. Please do.

Please state if I am lying that SoR isn’t prideful about their NA coverage. Please do.

Please note the tier 2 thread where TC lacks even more coverage than SoR ever did. Look at how civil that thread is.

Now please note this thread.

If you note the above you can answer your own question. There is a love hate relationship between SoR and BG. Just leave it alone.

Blackgate
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Reshaos – Level 80 Power Necromancer

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Proumbro.1376

Proumbro.1376

Okay. I think it’s time to say something.

bacon.

Yes, and not the Canadian kind, btw, is anyone getting a strange case of deja vu? It just hit me really hard…

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“Life is a beautiful lie, and I am a painful truth.”

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Wow, the same suspects who ruined the IoJ/BG/SoR, TC/BG/SoR/, SoR/SBI/TC threads have now ruined the JQ/SoR/SoS thread.

And people think coincidences are overrated :P But yea I think we all know what caused the thread to go down hill.

You know… there does seem to be something in common between those four match-ups… but I can’t quite put my finger on it…

Can you provide any evidence that the SoR/SBI/TC was ruined? Aside from a couple of random posts, it was one of the most respectful matchup threads I have seen to date.

Thanks, I look forward to any thing you can provide to support your case.

Edit: pardon my reply going to this post instead of where it belongs. Seems like there are some shenanigans at work behind the scenes.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

Okay. I think it’s time to say something.

bacon.

Cookies may have been the better choice of word.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

Wow, the same suspects who ruined the IoJ/BG/SoR, TC/BG/SoR/, SoR/SBI/TC threads have now ruined the JQ/SoR/SoS thread.

And people think coincidences are overrated :P But yea I think we all know what caused the thread to go down hill.

You know… there does seem to be something in common between those four match-ups… but I can’t quite put my finger on it…

Can you provide any evidence that the SoR/SBI/TC was ruined? Aside from a couple of random posts, it was one of the most respectful matchup threads I have seen to date.

Thanks, I look forward to any thing you can provide to support your case.

Nah, it isn’t my case to make. Just observing that there appears to be something in common between the listed four match-ups.

Okay. I think it’s time to say something.

bacon.

Cookies may have been the better choice of word.

Cookies… wrapped in bacon.

#TeamJadeQuarry

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Please note the tier 2 thread where TC lacks even more coverage than SoR ever did. Look at how civil that thread is.

Our thread with TC and SBI was quite civil too. In fact most of you could probably learn a lesson from it.

I am curious about one thing though …..why are you posting here when you play on BG? Ok, I am not really curious, I know why.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Nah, it isn’t my case to make. Just observing that there appears to be something in common between the listed four match-ups.

Just to think, here I was assuming you would be able to see through that clearly. I thought it was obvious.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Vodka my friend, I would quote you and respond, but I suspect there will be no need to in a few minutes given how much attention is being paid to this thread.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: DivineBeing.2086

DivineBeing.2086

Please note the tier 2 thread where TC lacks even more coverage than SoR ever did. Look at how civil that thread is.

Our thread with TC and SBI was quite civil too. In fact most of you could probably learn a lesson from it.

I am curious about one thing though …..why are you posting here when you play on BG? Ok, I am not really curious, I know why.

Oh! Oh! You mean the thread match up where you guys were completely obliterating a server and a dead server, and comparing that to the other match up threads where cover..age….was an iss..ue…and you….lost…oh nevermine I won’t bring that up.

Enjoy the match up guys!

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Reshaos – Level 80 Power Necromancer

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Vodka.3958

Vodka.3958

I am curious about one thing though …..why are you posting here when you play on BG? Ok, I am not really curious, I know why.

I enjoy comparing the T1 thread to the T2 thread. It makes me proud to be in an honorable server and not one that QQ’s and gives excuses. Reading the QQ and excuses brings back the memories of when we won 11-0 against your server
sigh…
the good ole days :/

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Primal Emperor of Imperial Coalition
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08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: dirtyoldgoat.5496

dirtyoldgoat.5496

Please note the tier 2 thread where TC lacks even more coverage than SoR ever did. Look at how civil that thread is.

Our thread with TC and SBI was quite civil too. In fact most of you could probably learn a lesson from it.

I am curious about one thing though …..why are you posting here when you play on BG? Ok, I am not really curious, I know why.

Lol. I think Covenn is trolling us all.

The currrent t2 TC match > the last t2 TC Match.

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(edited by dirtyoldgoat.5496)

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

Please note the tier 2 thread where TC lacks even more coverage than SoR ever did. Look at how civil that thread is.

Our thread with TC and SBI was quite civil too. In fact most of you could probably learn a lesson from it.

I am curious about one thing though …..why are you posting here when you play on BG? Ok, I am not really curious, I know why.

Oh! Oh! You mean the thread match up where you guys were completely obliterating a server and a dead server, and comparing that to the other match up threads where cover..age….was an iss..ue…and you….lost…oh nevermine I won’t bring that up.

Enjoy the match up guys!

Not sure what you are talking about I was referring to the thread where we were sympathetic to our opponents instead of beating our chests like we accomplished something special by zerging them into the ground.

Feel free to read it again. Thanks

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

I think perhaps BG is bored the way they are zerging this thread. This must be what it feels like to be an undefended keep door.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: dirtyoldgoat.5496

dirtyoldgoat.5496

Please note the tier 2 thread where TC lacks even more coverage than SoR ever did. Look at how civil that thread is.

Our thread with TC and SBI was quite civil too. In fact most of you could probably learn a lesson from it.

I am curious about one thing though …..why are you posting here when you play on BG? Ok, I am not really curious, I know why.

Oh! Oh! You mean the thread match up where you guys were completely obliterating a server and a dead server, and comparing that to the other match up threads where cover..age….was an iss..ue…and you….lost…oh nevermine I won’t bring that up.

Enjoy the match up guys!

Not sure what you are talking about I was referring to the thread where we were sympathetic to our opponents instead of beating our chests like we accomplished something special by zerging them into the ground.

Feel free to read it again. Thanks

That response is pure troll bait.

I am going to take a wise womans advice and just say “we are going to have to agree to disagree, thanks for adding input

Thats not my recollection…. but different people perhaps remember things differently.

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PINK is the new Black
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08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: covenn.7165

covenn.7165

The currrent t2 TC match > the last t2 TC Match.

I am glad it is working out better for you. Its no fun being on the receiving end of that prior situation. Glad it only lasted 2 weeks.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Posted by: Kreen.3925

Kreen.3925

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Doubtful that any time of teamwork against JQ would ever be performed. There is a lot of animosity between our two servers and people that would be able to influence it. Personally, I wouldn’t want that anyways.

Somehow I suspect that even if we did during non NA peak hours at least, it still wouldn’t put much of a dent in JQ. They were ticking away on you at 600 too if you recall. Heh

Full 3 way is always my preference I hope you both don’t kitten off and fight each other exclusively and continue to show us some love otherwise it will get boring fast.

As long as we can go on top its all good.

Some of those 3 ways in SM and various keeps across the maps in the last few weeks have been awesome.

I fight for JQ.
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