Miranda Zero – Ele / Twitch Zero – Mes / Chargrin Soulboom – Engi
Aliera Zero – Guardian / Reaver Zero – Necro
I would assume it’s about as annoying as beating someone in your primetime
We were neck and neck.
and then losing to PvDoor while listening to patronizing comments about “superior tactics and coordination”.
Very few of us made statements that our lead was built up by only that.
Again – what’s with the defeatist attitude. This match is already decided?
No defeatist attitude here I’m itching to finish work and get back into it hopefully with a large Yaks force.
It was a couple thousand and that’s significant lead for the first N/A prime-time session. Score update?
It wasn’t a couple of thousand. If you check out the site I linked above it lists scores at certain times. Unfortunately they are not at regular times but the listed scores show that the most FA was ahead by was about 900 points. That might have gone up to 1K, but certainly not 2K+.
Excellent – I’ll see you tonight then.
After taking down the west tower wall with catapults you sent in a mesmer and portal bombed us with about 40 players. Half of us were dead before you guys had even rendered for us.
Heh, I was in that bomb and there were only 20 at the most. I know it made no difference in the end, but this is a good example of how things appear from different sides.
As a little explanation, the only reason there were that many YB in our BL was because reinforcements came from other maps after FA had taken Redbriar (with decent numbers – my guess is at lest 20 at that time ) and then went on to bang on the northwest gate of AB while also pushing at the south. You might have got away with the northwest gate if I hadn’t seen the contested waypoint and went to check it out. Some guy there shot me with a ballista.
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I want to know who these mythical transfers are. I keep hearing we have a new Japanese guild (What tag? JPN has been with us for weeks) and we have Europeans coming in the next fortnight or so.
Maybe its hard to see from your side but up until yesterday Aust. time at a certain time every single day from our POV at least 90% of FA players seemed to log off. This was confirmed by all the comments at the beginning of the thread about FA having almost nil presence other than at NA prime time. Now all of a sudden you have massive numbers at that time that you had previously dropped off. Why has that occurred? NA players staying up later on election day? Why weren’t they doing that on the weekend?
It really is hard to see from my side. Particularly because I play during that time slot and no new guilds have been on in any map and I also ask in all chats constantly to find out what guilds are staying up except random individuals and 3-4 old timer guilds in small groups. Provide me with a screenshot of a large guild contingent (people are saying 40, 70, and 200 member transfers now ??) at that time slot and I can be convinced. Now there’s rumor of transfers going around means we couldn’t possibly beat you without them and we recruited them just to fight Yak’s.
You guys have only mentioned guilds that have been here for a long time. Who are these new faceless warriors whom I owe so much to, yet aren’t visible during my playing hours when we turn the map green? A genuine question so I can find out who to thank for all their hard work when I thought it was just our server working hard.
You’re forgetting we had FA borderlands locked down before our PPT gain all started, which increased morale by a great amount. FA is notorious for having a sensitive morale if we hold no territory. If we do – a massive amount of PvE players will join the fight.
The fact that Yak’s is pretending we started recruiting for off peak purely for this match when all recruiting threads are dated a fortnight back is plain ignorant, just saying. We’ve been trying to recruit for that time slot since week long matches opened.
Cheers
Heh, I was in that bomb and there were only 20 at the most. I know it made no difference in the end, but this is a good example of how things appear from different sides.
I don’t want to cause an argument on numbers but I have a video of the fight and you guys had 3 or 4 catapults firing at the west wall with people also attacking the gate. There were way more than 20 people attacking us at Greenlake tower.
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Transfers are just numbers/coverage. And you seem to concede that numbers/coverage are what drives a matches outcome (i.e. “match being decided by transfers”). Should I be upset that server numbers/coverage going into a match decide the outcome?
No because thats a given going into the match.
You’re forgetting we had FA borderlands locked down before our PPT gain all started, which increased morale by a great amount. FA is notorious for having a sensitive morale if we hold no territory. If we do – a massive amount of PvE players will join the fight.
This.
I think a lot of FA’s fairweather players are returning to play because our Oceanic shift is leaving more stuff for them when their night shift ends. I’ve noticed in past games that if our Oceanic time ends and we have almost no Potential Points our prime time has a poor showing as well.
Somewhere between 2 and 3 weeks ago Yak’s Bend had so many new players transfer to their server that they jumped from rank 16 to rank 11 in one match. That’s not due to gradually improving through learning and tactics.
From what I understand over the last few weeks the four servers people have been stacking and bandwagoning were BG, SoR, SoS and Yak’s Bend (although from what I hear people are now leaving BG).
A post from page 5 of this thread by a FA player. So now we have come full circle.
Here’s how I, a dumb random, see it:
-YB has not had massive (or even substantial) transfers at any point in our history. No one on YB has seen any new guilds
-YB does not have a huge non-NA prime time population. We have a handful of oceanics and some NAs who stay up late on the weekends.
-FA has not yet had massive transfers. No one on FA has seen any new guilds
-FA in this match so far has not had a huge non-NA prime time population. Last night when the maps went green they simply had some NA players who stayed up late (I saw them – they were mostly PRO with some Sexy, JPN and others thrown in)
But everyone please keep babbling, we have a tower to build
I would assume it’s about as annoying as beating someone in your primetime and then losing to PvDoor while listening to patronizing comments about “superior tactics and coordination”.
FA hasn’t really beat Yaks in the prime time this match up until the past day or two. I get that you guys are used to saying that you’re unstoppable in prime time but that just isn’t what happened last friday. You guys had maybe a couple hundred point lead and as of the end of prime time Friday the match was anyone’s game.
I am well aware that a 1 point lead is technically winning. But the small lead you had just isn’t really enough to claim your server was the superior prime time server. With scores so close it would be foolish to say the match would always play out that way.
FA won the first night by 1000 points, for the first night 1000 is a fairly comfortable win.
I would really love to know who these magically transfers are. We had a few euros transfer that I know of and that is it. The guilds playing in oceanic time are the same guilds we have always had. It really seems a drop off of yaks has given FA the opening, not an increase of FA
hmmhmm…interesting…..
While everyone is on here posting FA is closing the gap on Yaks bend ;o
209k yaks
121k FA
28k ET
1733 Server time.
;p
I don’t want to cause an argument on numbers but I have a video of the fight and you guys had 3 or 4 catapults firing at the west wall with people also attacking the gate. There were way more than 20 people attacking us at Greenlake tower.
No argument from my side
So to clarify, yes there were more than 20 people at Greenlake (with 3 catapults) but 40 people did not use the portal bomb.
I want to know who these mythical transfers are. I keep hearing we have a new Japanese guild (What tag? JPN has been with us for weeks) and we have Europeans coming in the next fortnight or so.
Maybe its hard to see from your side but up until yesterday Aust. time at a certain time every single day from our POV at least 90% of FA players seemed to log off. This was confirmed by all the comments at the beginning of the thread about FA having almost nil presence other than at NA prime time. Now all of a sudden you have massive numbers at that time that you had previously dropped off. Why has that occurred? NA players staying up later on election day? Why weren’t they doing that on the weekend?
It really is hard to see from my side. Particularly because I play during that time slot and no new guilds have been on in any map and I also ask in all chats constantly to find out what guilds are staying up except random individuals and 3-4 old timer guilds in small groups. Provide me with a screenshot of a large guild contingent (people are saying 40, 70, and 200 member transfers now ??) at that time slot and I can be convinced. Now there’s rumor of transfers going around means we couldn’t possibly beat you without them and we recruited them just to fight Yak’s.
You guys have only mentioned guilds that have been here for a long time. Who are these new faceless warriors whom I owe so much to, yet aren’t visible during my playing hours when we turn the map green? A genuine question so I can find out who to thank for all their hard work when I thought it was just our server working hard.
You’re forgetting we had FA borderlands locked down before our PPT gain all started, which increased morale by a great amount. FA is notorious for having a sensitive morale if we hold no territory. If we do – a massive amount of PvE players will join the fight.
The fact that Yak’s is pretending we started recruiting for off peak purely for this match when all recruiting threads are dated a fortnight back is plain ignorant, just saying. We’ve been trying to recruit for that time slot since week long matches opened.
Cheers
This is from rush in the guru forum:
Guild Tag:[Echo]
Server:Fort Aspenwood
Posted Yesterday, 05:21 PM
Updates for everyone, I’ll list who I know has moved so far.
-9 man elite euro squad joined GODS
-20-40ish man AU guild moved (they are still moving people according to my AU commander)
-70 man Japanese guild confirmed moving as well (confirmed by my co-leader, he talked with their leader)
-100 man EU guild (the one from earlier posts) confirmed as having moved. (They are recruiting in LA, and myself and my co-leader talked with their leader).
-Individual people [17 atm] (I have met 12 personally, my co-leader tells me he has met another 5).
We’re looking good. We were able to take almost the entire map from Yak’s and Eredon early this morning (NA early).
The 100 man guild that moved over is recruiting more EU guilds in as well.
Good work everyone who helped the recruitment going, it means a lot to me and everyone in Fort Aspenwood.
You should be able to find rush from the guild ECHO in your server and that’s over 200 players.
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hmmhmm…interesting…..
While everyone is on here posting FA is closing the gap on Yaks bend ;o209k yaks
121k FA
28k ET1733 Server time.
;p
Yaks was ahead by a little over 110k and is now ahead by a little under 90k. A 20k gain by FA throughout the day. Yaks will probably still win, but FA has been closing the gap.
Transfers are just numbers/coverage. And you seem to concede that numbers/coverage are what drives a matches outcome (i.e. “match being decided by transfers”). Should I be upset that server numbers/coverage going into a match decide the outcome?
No because thats a given going into the match.
You missed my point. Refer to Scorpio’s post above (i think he is a dirty TCer!)
FA won the first night by 1000 points, for the first night 1000 is a fairly comfortable win.
If you think it was comfortable then you weren’t there.
As a YB player, I honestly have to say FA players seem more dedicated — YB had queues when we had the lead and now we don’t have queues. I routinely see them acting better together as mobile units, especially saving each other’s skin in large zerg fights. Plus, they seem way more willing to spend money on siege, especially superior siege, and are capable of putting it up absolutely anywhere within a moment’s notice. Kudos to you. Even if the point lead is too much for you to get back, I think you’ve given YB our first real taste of top level competition (the SoR fight was far too lopsided to do that).
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Nice work finding that, cybertx.
Nice work finding that, cybertx.
tks
FA won the first night by 1000 points, for the first night 1000 is a fairly comfortable win.
If you think it was comfortable then you weren’t there.
I was there, comfortable does not mean easy, comfortable means we were not 1 bad fight away from losing or anything. 1000 points on the first night indicates a fairly consistent small point lead, you dont get 1000 points up with 30 minutes of good work, 1000 points is an indication that FA spent a majority of the time up.
YB folk less chit chat and more pew pew, regardless of FA deny’ing xfers in or just having guilds stay up til 4-5 in the morning on weekdays, their presences in OC time slot has increased.. Care factor of that is ZERO. lets just get our hind parts out on the battlefield and continue to kick butt, or attempt to kick butt.
Great fights are still be had in this match up, just pointless fighting them with text on a forum, when we can kill their pixelated bodies on the battle field!!
YAKYAKYAKYAK!
On and Pro, look forward to finding you again tonight, since we both had the same ideas last night which for the most part kept us seperated
Played WvW a bit, but I’m getting distracted by election coverage so I’ll log off for the evening. Here’s a score update.
hmmhmm…interesting…..
While everyone is on here posting FA is closing the gap on Yaks bend ;o209k yaks
121k FA
28k ET1733 Server time.
;p
Whats being lost on everyone is ET doubled it weekly total in 24 hours!
Go ET!
Whats being lost on everyone is ET doubled it weekly total in 24 hours!
Go ET!
Yeah I have been seeing a lot more ET, and seeing red on the map again. Keep it up guys glad to see you out there.
I wanted to post this to the person who was firing cannons on the cross server costume battle, you sir are a Jerk.
Yaks needs to get more folks onto to the field. Or just get more. The early posts about population in this thread by FA folks reads very bizarrely. I was out today after noon, in ET and FA borderlands soloing camps, and we didn’t have more than 5 people in either of those maps. Finally after doing about 10 camps, ran into a few stragglers and we assaulted redbriar and held it for a bit before a FA zerg showed up to take it back.
This was the middle of the day not the middle of the night.
I think a lot of the meta in WvW is more about groups properly moving between maps than anything else. Because outside of Friday resets, or maybe a couple hours of NA primetime, very few servers fill all 4 maps. While of course overall numbers matter preeminently, properly dividing up the numbers you do have, might be just as important.
I wanted to post this to the person who was firing cannons on the cross server costume battle, you sir are a Jerk.
This! haha.
Was funny when we were doing costume brawls at the YB Keep in EB last night as well.
Until the cannons and non-costumebrawl believers got involved. :p
Yaks needs to get more folks onto to the field. Or just get more. The early posts about population in this thread by FA folks reads very bizarrely. I was out today after noon, in ET and FA borderlands soloing camps, and we didn’t have more than 5 people in either of those maps. Finally after doing about 10 camps, ran into a few stragglers and we assaulted redbriar and held it for a bit before a FA zerg showed up to take it back.
This was the middle of the day not the middle of the night.
Middle of who’s day? We’ve acknowledged we have pop issues at different times hence the recruitment thread that Spetrix put up.
Yaks needs to get more folks onto to the field. Or just get more. The early posts about population in this thread by FA folks reads very bizarrely. I was out today after noon, in ET and FA borderlands soloing camps, and we didn’t have more than 5 people in either of those maps. Finally after doing about 10 camps, ran into a few stragglers and we assaulted redbriar and held it for a bit before a FA zerg showed up to take it back.
This was the middle of the day not the middle of the night.
Middle of who’s day? We’ve acknowledged we have pop issues at different times hence the recruitment thread that Spetrix put up.
Middle of the day in North America. Yaks is not a Oceanic server, for us to be basically having 2 empty borderland maps at 1-2 PM Eastern Time makes something of a joke of some of the early posts in this thread.
No argument from my side
So to clarify, yes there were more than 20 people at Greenlake (with 3 catapults) but 40 people did not use the portal bomb.
Last night’s fighting with TOG (+the other mix of YB players) was the most fun I’ve had this match.
Most of the night we were making decisions on what to attack based on what you guys were doing. For most of the Oceanic hours you guys were definitely getting the better of us (having taken most of FA BL and all of YB BL). I don’t think it was until late in the night, after we retook SMC, that we started to recover. But that was also near the time most of you had to leave for the night.
I’m hoping tonight is as much fun.
Did Yak’s get their Keep in Eternal Battlegrounds back yet?
Not tonight. /15char
No argument from my side
So to clarify, yes there were more than 20 people at Greenlake (with 3 catapults) but 40 people did not use the portal bomb.
Last night’s fighting with TOG (+the other mix of YB players) was the most fun I’ve had this match.
Most of the night we were making decisions on what to attack based on what you guys were doing. For most of the Oceanic hours you guys were definitely getting the better of us (having taken most of FA BL and all of YB BL). I don’t think it was until late in the night, after we retook SMC, that we started to recover. But that was also near the time most of you had to leave for the night.
I’m hoping tonight is as much fun.
Nice to hear from someone with class and a positive attitude. There have been a lot of good fights this week. Keep it up.
Why FA Scared to get on ET Map? Oh.. thats right.. they got stomped off it : )
Ugh, annoying hacking Yaks thief inside ET Garrison. Don’t think we lost garrison for at least a day so pretty sure he didn’t wait it out lol.
How do you report and submit picture? Sorry never had to do this before.
It’s definitely not like we suddenly have some amazing night team or anything.
I think it’s more like, we went from losing EVERYTHING at night, to being able to hold some of the map.
Maps are completely blue again
FA takes everything when when there’s no one to defend, jee where did i see that before hmmm oh yeah previous match against CD. Until numbers are equal on all maps 24/7 there is no “better” server. It ’s is whomever has most on 24/7 simple as that. Undefended forts really hard to take….
To the girls and guys of [PRO] some great fights once again tonight, in both EB and your BL, and Lady S sorry for killing your merchants lol. Some great defence by you folks in SM and in your lowlands
See you again for round 3 tomorrow night lol
Whats being lost on everyone is ET doubled it weekly total in 24 hours!
Go ET!
Yeah I have been seeing a lot more ET, and seeing red on the map again. Keep it up guys glad to see you out there.
Our evening/night crew is all about keeping our home turf. A LOT more activity every day with a lot of skilled people helping out. Guilds also taking ownership are sticking around what they claim and upgrading/defending them which is awesome. The other 2 servers can bicker while we keep our wedge of the pie visible
FA takes everything when when there’s no one to defend, jee where did i see that before hmmm oh yeah previous match against CD. Until numbers are equal on all maps 24/7 there is no “better” server. It ’s is whomever has most on 24/7 simple as that. Undefended forts really hard to take….
Lol, such a contradiction here. By that logic – Yak’s have more people on 24/7 and therefore take undefended territory more often if you referred to the scoreboard. Did you even think about this before you typed it? Or are you implying somehow that Yak’s is the only server this doesn’t occur on, every fight for territory you get is heavily defended and you simply manage to overcome the odds and beat everyone off the map whilst being outnumbered the entire time?
FA is only server that has sent me mass whispers over me killing them. Obviously not all of you but never had a whisper from anyone on another server till Friday. And as of now I have blocked 20 of you FAers because of repeated whispers over and over. And this forum post kinda mirrors what whispers represent. If I was most of you or EU server looking to transfer I’d pick another server. Playing along side people like that giving the impression that FA are immature whiners is not good.
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FA is only server that has sent me mass whispers over me killing them. Obviously not all of you but never had a whisper from anyone on another server till Friday. And as of now I have blocked 20 of you FAers because of repeated whispers over and over. And this forum post kinda mirrors what whispers represent. If I was most of you or EU server looking to transfer I’d pick another server. Playing along side people like that giving the impression that FA are immature whiners is not good.
Harsh. I’ve been on FA since launch and I’ve been very happy with our community so far. From what I’ve experienced on FA we have a lot of helpful and nice people willing to help with anything. The community I’ve experienced has been more mature and understanding than in any other mmo I’ve played (I assume it’s generally like this on most servers). I guess this recent evidence proves me wrong though…
I got 5 curse filled whispers from YB players last night after killing them. Perhaps it hurt their ego’s as level 80 to be killed by my “up-leveled” character. Very sad to see. I don’t block though because their tears sustain me.
Do they represent your whole server?
I’m sorry for your negative PvP experience. If you have concerns about FA’s community or wish to hinder transfers to FA for whatever reason I suggest you post your experiences on the FA recruitment thread on these forums. Calling out individuals doesn’t really add to the discussion in this thread and sign your name is you’re going to call people, we can then take it seriously.
YB folk less chit chat and more pew pew, regardless of FA deny’ing xfers in or just having guilds stay up til 4-5 in the morning on weekdays, their presences in OC time slot has increased.. Care factor of that is ZERO. lets just get our hind parts out on the battlefield and continue to kick butt, or attempt to kick butt.
Great fights are still be had in this match up, just pointless fighting them with text on a forum, when we can kill their pixelated bodies on the battle field!!
YAKYAKYAKYAK!
On and Pro, look forward to finding you again tonight, since we both had the same ideas last night which for the most part kept us seperated
This.
I wish the few FA and Yaks posters would take their bickering to PM’s. It’s getting ridiculous and petty from both sides. Enough.
I have had nothing but intense battles with FA this week. Thank you for the great experience your server brings to World vs World.
If Yak’s squeeze out a victory this week, we will get smacked down next week. It is a game of player numbers. We fight with conviction and pride, no matter the score. It’s a great server with very good commanders. We don’t yet have the numbers to be competetive in the higher tiers, but our coordianted play and quick response times have allowed us to battle effectively above our numbers.
We are a great server with a bright future in World vs World vs World.
The influx of FA guilds made this week quite a lot of fun! Last weekend was looking like another boring week of searching for something to kill. FA organized and pushed back.
I am excited to login tonight and get slaughtered or slaughter a few FA invaders!
-just another Yaker
i was pretty surprised by the influx of new players to FA
from my point of view it looks like we have peek hours that are just slightly out of sync with one another so that we keep on attacking each other on the tail end of each others most active times.
i’ve been having a lot of fun fighting against FA and i hope that they (and yaks) can keep up their momentum and continue to have some pretty epic battles for the rest of the week. that said i just wish more of the European guilds had transferred to ET to help them out.
-yet another yaker
It has been a good match. FA’s guilds have remembered who they are after some dawdling on Saturday and Sunday.
I’m interested to see how FA looks when the EU transfers actually happen. Per their commander, they are discussing this some more as we speak and then should begin transfers over the next week or two if it’s approved.
@Haldunius
No, those that curse do NOT represent the rest of the server, not even a majority. I spoke directly with PRO’s commander iBludgeon I believe, in civil tones and even gave pointers. We want FA to actually fight all week, and not quit. Most of us want a good match and care little for your tactics. Good players don’t care if a thief is invisible. He burns to death just as fast invis as he does visible.
In general, I do wish ET would do a little more than their own BL. It does get boring wandering around and fighting PRO guild, only to see GODS guild, or a similar green group run up to help. It’s always more fun when it’s 20 on 20 and then the other team’s zerg runs through and roflstomps both groups. I miss weeks where it was 3 teams instead of 2.
But, FA has really started fighting. It’s become far more enjoyable than Friday and Saturday. I hope that ET and their server drama fixes itself so they can field an actual threat before Friday’s reset. And that isn’t insulting, they just don’t have any numbers in WvW. I saw one red player in EB last night, and just didn’t have the heart to kill him so I let him run away.
See you on the field, and good luck.
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