Guild Wars 2

I find it interesting that both TC and Yaks find FA a bigger threat than each other.

FA is a bigger threat to TC for 1st place and is a bigger threat to Yaks for 2nd place. It’s unlikely that Yaks will place above TC so at this point both are doing what makes the most sense. Both TC and Yaks players probably dislike FA more than each other given past matches, but I think the first thing I described is a bigger factor. There’s really nothing we can do about this outside of recruiting. CD isn’t winning their match by enough to come up and replace Yaks. In fact, Yaks are increasing the rating gap between them and CD.

Regrets of Sini.6083:

I find it interesting that both TC and Yaks find FA a bigger threat than each other.

FA was in 1st place when I logged in yesterday = bigger threat.

I like how TC & YB keep coming up with new ways to justify focussing FA. But it’s all good, farming your zergs last week got me more badges than any other matchup so far

May I speak with (have the names/id of) [Hako] members on Fort Aspenwood?

Specifically two Asuran Thieves and a Guardian who were taking camps not too long ago.

aww sweet how tc came to yaks help at ab just now very sweet and u guys say u dont help each other.soo we built a treb at inner ab all of the sudden while fighting off yb pink attacks us from behind yeah sure u guys wernt double teaming!

Unfortunately.5940:

I like how TC & YB keep coming up with new ways to justify focussing FA. But it’s all good, farming your zergs last week got me more badges than any other matchup so far

yeah ty for the badges btw!:-)

Static.9841:

OmegaAlpha.9086:

Haha, no that wasn’t me.

My Asura is bald, kind of gray skin color and has the helm showing. Wearing rampage’s armor for looks.

Then I have yet to meet you sir!

Utterly epic epic night in FABL tonight, not only did we as 2 thieves stop any YB leaving their zone area for 20 minutes whilst we were hanging around the tower, but we then decided to stop for a chat with 2 more thieves before proceeding to roll over to BB which was being heavily sieged by YB, don’t worry FA, we killed all the YB… oh right, we also killed you and cleared the place out for anyone else to arrive before stealing it… 4 of us. Epic.

by any chance were you guys guarding a supply camp and u had an extra engineer with you static.9841

So many mod edits because you guys can’t keep from dickwagging.

It’s a close matchup, questionable and solid tactical calls by all 3 sides. Let’s try not to fall off any of our high-horses.

Sure was fun last night, protecting a tower from a dual-treb assault from Yak’s SM. Worked on it for about an hour until people started regurgitating generalized orders.

Anyway, those were some good fights at Danelon and back. Good stuff, FA.

It is so sad after the classy replies of some FA members that more FA members come a long and bring up the same 2v1 arguments, and then people from FA read them thinking it’s what YB/TC are saying? Who said TC thinks FA is a bigger threat than YB?

YB beat FA when they matched up…and whether FA wants to admit it or not, YB only came in 3rd place last week because they are the heaviest PvE server out of the three (out manned buff in EB on reset day? and this is on a server that is known for their weekend strength, then they closed the gap in the last 3 days of the week when the event was over).

You are supposed to be 2v1’ed…hell we have fought both TC and FA all night yesterday in EB when their attacks against each other were minimal…we know it was supposed to happen because we have stonemist….we do not assume there’s a conspiracy, or people think we are a bigger threat, or the two servers hate us.

It is getting quiet annoying that FA has this elitist we are so cool that we have haters, we are always outnumbered, always double teamed mentality. We always laugh about it in guild chat when we attack FA and notice that TC is doing the same at the same time…making bets on when’s the next FA post about being double teamed is going to happen.

it’s 1v1v1….meaning…you are going to fight 2 servers at the same time…it is weird when you are not fighting two servers at the same time. And it is ignorant to assume that the other 2 servers are not fighting just because you can’t see it. Unless you have the lead/you are in your borderlands/you hold stonemist…then you are clearly supposed to be double teamed for reasons too logical to bother explaining.

Unfortunately.5940:

I like how TC & YB keep coming up with new ways to justify focussing FA. But it’s all good, farming your zergs last week got me more badges than any other matchup so far

You sir, no nothing about badge farming.

Let this guide enlighten you.

I request more frequent 4map pics please in this thread. The map colors, and the BLs with activity levels from all three sides will point out where the action is and who appears to be fighting on more fronts….problem solved with facts!……I know, I know facts don’t belong on forums posts!….just kitten! lol……Seriously post em more frequently please

Braxxus.2904:

I think I might have picked Cog out of the crowd tonight finally… Not sure though, so many charr guardians sporting hammers and greatswords that in the chaos of the umber/durios war going on before our YB numbers dropped to kitten again (/sadface) that I didn’t really get to tab through them all to spot the warrior.

I was only on for a few hours (9 – 11 EST maybe?), but if hiding a helm is a property of the char, I’m the black charr with yellow hair and spiked shoulders. Also, odds are I’m either diving on top of your group, or looking for an opportunity to dive on top of your group, so I probably wouldn’t be too difficult to spot.

A fun fight was had inside Durios this morning as well. Death From Above is potentially my favorite Warrior thing at this point.

Great match! Wasted like 2 hours trying to take Greenlake so we took Ab in 20 minutes instead!

I think one reason TC can focus on FA is that while at certain times YB may be leading in the map, the gap between TC and YB is still pretty far off, so sometimes, it’s in TC’s best interests to let YB take SMC and keep it while TC takes FA towers and keep. (Talking about in EB). i.e., so long as the gap between YB and TC in the minute ticks is not too big, TC can survive (until it gets its primetime hours on).

Cogbyrn.7283:

I was only on for a few hours (9 – 11 EST maybe?), but if hiding a helm is a property of the char, I’m the black charr with yellow hair and spiked shoulders. Also, odds are I’m either diving on top of your group, or looking for an opportunity to dive on top of your group, so I probably wouldn’t be too difficult to spot.

A fun fight was had inside Durios this morning as well. Death From Above is potentially my favorite Warrior thing at this point.

Right on, I’ll keep an eye out. I was on all day yesterday so chances are if you were part of the umber/durios war that occured we ran into each other. I’m the only Human in PxC and I’m the guy doing front line pushes rocking the T3/T2 mix of feathered cultural plate using ranked finishers (gotta do something with them since they add up so fast).

I too enjoy death from above during siege defenses. Possibly one of my favorite things is to dive off the wall into a group and attempt an assassination on someone before heading back inside. Got me a pair of golems from the golem fail yesterday with that, w00t!.

kitten.3178:

Great match! Wasted like 2 hours trying to take Greenlake so we took Ab in 20 minutes instead!

well because some wannabe commander that must have gotten his tag at a secondhand store after threatening the sales clerk with a machine gun thought it was a good ides to take greenlake while tc mad a golem in one of the camps and attacked the watergate at garrison.thank god we have some people with common sense on

My god did the entire FA population reroll thieves, d/d eles and mesmers? kitten that’s all that’s on the field in rediculous numbers today. : /

Love you guys, but kitten.

With the rubbish I constantly read in matchup threads with FA in them, maybe I am deliberately focusing on FA and helping YB whenever I can. Someone said it before, but with the way some of you are posting, you’re really earning the target on your back lol.

They should randomize the matchups more. We’re facing each other again and probably will next week too. It lets animosity build. Specific players and guilds get singled out. Hell, someone on EB last night was offering 20s per screenshot confirmed kill on a specific guild.

Hm.. self fulling prophecy.. is the only thing I can add to this thread, also it looks like it will be the exact same matchup next week

I hope they were after us. that would make life entertaining

Vagrant.1094:

Subtle.4596:

Sooo.. Umm.. about those 15 golems you just ran into the oil on south SM. How did that work out for you?

About as well as expected. >.>

It’s not so much that ‘we’ don’t know what to do with golems as certain folks don’t know what to do with them, or how to use them, and that they’re currently used more as a ‘bit of fun’ rather than a strategic tool. They deserved to be destroyed in the manner they were.

I’d go into detail, but it wasn’t my play at all, and things have already been said.

~Nyari Cil, Queen of EB.

I too was (extremely) reluctantly part of the ‘awesome but stupid’ Charlie Sheen of Stonemist golem rush, kitten

Certainly did miss you on reset/the weekend Nyari Cil!

like i said, too bad you guys didnt have a solid push with those golems. when we found them at rogues i was really looking forward/dreading when they would come out. 5 minutes after they died we pushed a golem assault out of Anz and then one from FA at SMshortly after. tough night for golems. i think there was one at Anz from FA that died horribly at the gate as well

Sol.4317:

like i said, too bad you guys didnt have a solid push with those golems. when we found them at rogues i was really looking forward/dreading when they would come out. 5 minutes after they died we pushed a golem assault out of Anz and then one from FA at SMshortly after. tough night for golems. i think there was one at Anz from FA that died horribly at the gate as well

No, I’m talking about this one :
http://www.guildwars2roleplayers.com/forum/m/2737230/viewthread/4982126-awesome-but-stupid-plan-charlie-sheen-stonemist-siege-plans

They could have been used for some other objectives with a high degree of success but alas things were extremely hectic at the time (I had just popped into EB some 30mins earlier from another BL and had just re-taken Klov/WC after having lost it to a massive FA Golem push).

The Golem Gods have been generous, but alas .. we’re squandering the blessings

Khyron.8735:

They should randomize the matchups more. We’re facing each other again and probably will next week too. It lets animosity build. Specific players and guilds get singled out. Hell, someone on EB last night was offering 20s per screenshot confirmed kill on a specific guild.

If you randomize match-ups, you’ll get uneven weeks that will be extremely boring. The whole point of this system is to make sure that WvWvW is as interesting as possible.

And so what about “animosity”? To be quite honest, I wish there were more friendly rivalries that I could recognize in-game and have fun with. Anonymity in PvP is unfortunate. Some of the most MMO PvP fun I’ve ever had was Vanilla WoW in the 30-40 or 40-50 bracket. I’d see the same people again and again, recognize their strengths/weaknesses, and we’d start veering off to fight each other to see who could come out on top. Once they introduce battlegroups and queues, there were no longer any faces, just classes that you farmed for honor.

If WvWvW became personal, I’d be ultra happy. If people hunted me down in WvWvW, I’d be ultra happy. If a screenshot of me dead shows up on these forums (happens frequently when I’m not running with a guild group), I’ll be ultra happy. I want to laugh as I dive off a wall and gun for a particular person. I want to laugh as I see a group specifically converge on me in a fight.

Competition doesn’t have to be filled with excuses and mindless boasting about exploits. I want to know who I can personally congratulate for a battle well-fought, win or lose. The more I think about it, the happier I get that I get to see the same groups for multiple weeks running.

There will always be those trying to spoil the mood with mudslinging. Ignore them. If we’re in this for multiple weeks, let’s build a positive community around it and have some fun for a change.

Cheers to that Coghbyrn.

Rhongomyniad.5081:

Sol.4317:

like i said, too bad you guys didnt have a solid push with those golems. when we found them at rogues i was really looking forward/dreading when they would come out. 5 minutes after they died we pushed a golem assault out of Anz and then one from FA at SMshortly after. tough night for golems. i think there was one at Anz from FA that died horribly at the gate as well

No, I’m talking about this one :
http://www.guildwars2roleplayers.com/forum/m/2737230/viewthread/4982126-awesome-but-stupid-plan-charlie-sheen-stonemist-siege-plans

They could have been used for some other objectives with a high degree of success but alas things were extremely hectic at the time (I had just popped into EB some 30mins earlier from another BL and had just re-taken Klov/WC after having lost it to a massive FA Golem push).

The Golem Gods have been generous, but alas .. we’re squandering the blessings

When I first read about 40 Golems getting killed by an Oil.. I was like, has the Anti-Golem God risen from the Mists to pour missfortune over us all, I spent several hours praying inside the Shrine of the Golem God (TCG for all you heathens) , but then I recieved a vision of utmost importance, all those Golems that were sacrificed to the oils of the enemy, were actually powered by tainted powercores, and had to be weeded out. My heart was still broken, but alas I was gifted with new plans, and new ideas, how to turn our warriors into the machine god avatars of the Golem God.

And now a short prayer for all of you nonbelivers:

01101101 01100001 01111001 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101100 01100101 01101101 00100000 01101010 01110101 01110011 01110100 01101001 01100011 01100101 00100000 01100001 01100011 01100011 01101111 01110101 01101110 01110100 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01100010 01100001 01101100 01100001 01101110 01100011 01100101 00101100 00100000 01100001 01101101 01100101 01101110 00100001

blessed be the Golem God in all his glory!

This may make all you grumpingtons on Aspenwood get even grumpier but seems like the reason we’re not trying to attack Tarnished Coast (or Toast as we call them) is cause they’re really hard to beat and you guys aren’t fronting the numbers or pulling silly moves sometimes.

I know the meta game play is that we should gang up on Toast until they are not in 1st but they have faster, more player, and better performing response. Like to think Toast thinks the same for us cause we’ve had many many weeks to learn how to do zone defense with a small force versus large zergs long enough for our Alliance Guilds to repel them.

Oh and sorry we haven’t made a nickname for you guys yet on FA. Although if you run into Gates of Madness call them Gomby’s please : D

Cogbyrn.7283:

Khyron.8735:

They should randomize the matchups more. We’re facing each other again and probably will next week too. It lets animosity build. Specific players and guilds get singled out. Hell, someone on EB last night was offering 20s per screenshot confirmed kill on a specific guild.

If you randomize match-ups, you’ll get uneven weeks that will be extremely boring. The whole point of this system is to make sure that WvWvW is as interesting as possible.

And so what about “animosity”? To be quite honest, I wish there were more friendly rivalries that I could recognize in-game and have fun with. Anonymity in PvP is unfortunate. Some of the most MMO PvP fun I’ve ever had was Vanilla WoW in the 30-40 or 40-50 bracket. I’d see the same people again and again, recognize their strengths/weaknesses, and we’d start veering off to fight each other to see who could come out on top. Once they introduce battlegroups and queues, there were no longer any faces, just classes that you farmed for honor.

If WvWvW became personal, I’d be ultra happy. If people hunted me down in WvWvW, I’d be ultra happy. If a screenshot of me dead shows up on these forums (happens frequently when I’m not running with a guild group), I’ll be ultra happy. I want to laugh as I dive off a wall and gun for a particular person. I want to laugh as I see a group specifically converge on me in a fight.

Competition doesn’t have to be filled with excuses and mindless boasting about exploits. I want to know who I can personally congratulate for a battle well-fought, win or lose. The more I think about it, the happier I get that I get to see the same groups for multiple weeks running.

There will always be those trying to spoil the mood with mudslinging. Ignore them. If we’re in this for multiple weeks, let’s build a positive community around it and have some fun for a change.

Amen!

Well said Cog.

/15 char

I think the dynamics of this match are simply that FA initiates more fights than either other server, and thus gets counter attacked more too.

TC and YB seem to have more methodical similar styles, and as a YBer, TC usually defends what they have, and have great coverage, so you really have to plan to make advances vs them. FA seem to zerg around more, going for things like quick map takeovers. This is good for short gain, but they can often be taken back quickly as well as their locust swarm moves on and they don’t defend/upgrade as they go.

Pendragon.8735:

I think the dynamics of this match are simply that FA initiates more fights than either other server, and thus gets counter attacked more too.

TC and YB seem to have more methodical similar styles, and as a YBer, TC usually defends what they have, and have great coverage, so you really have to plan to make advances vs them. FA seem to zerg around more, going for things like quick map takeovers. This is good for short gain, but they can often be taken back quickly as well as their locust swarm moves on and they don’t defend/upgrade as they go.

So true. It does seem like FA is 100% offense all the time. No desire to consolidate and let the enemy come to you.

I also wish there was not anonymity. I have had some fun fights with TC and YB and wish I knew who these fine opponents were. I’m an unguilded charr ranger with a raven/lynx Lb/Sb set up that can be found running around solo at times. Maybe some day Anet will let me be just a little more competitive but I like to think I provide a tough fight to everyone except those nasty thieves..:) … and on rare occasion even those thieves if I can manage to keep some distance.

Soba.3041:

I like to think I provide a tough fight to everyone except those nasty thieves..:)

Even though you’re on the opposing server, solidarity brother. Thieves are the plague of GW2, regardless of what team they’re on. I wish you the best of luck against them.

Thurbleton.5841:

chahlz.5178:

Oh there’s a name for FA, but it will just show up as Fort Kitten.

Grew up gaming in an internet cafe that had a solid guideline on trash talk with strict no swearing. We could curse if it merited but just cursing to insult someone shows poor creativity.

I’m not claiming to have come up with it, but it is fairly well used in /t or /m

As one of the commanders who was attacking FA yesterday, I would like to clarify some of the strategic thinking as to why FA borderlands was attacked over TCs.

Yak’s Bend does not have any animosity towards FA. We chose to attack FA because the SW WP spawn is easier to capture a keep and secure a foothold and FA was in the point lead. Capturing FA territory had a higher probability of success. In a game where point ticks occur, it is important to go into territory you think you can go into and hold. On top of that after countless attempts at redvale (see references above for “the battle of redvale”), we were never removed from the map until TC came and did it. Why? Because FA’s team thought that the best way to relieve pressure from their own map was to attack the smaller team of the two. However, it left you with a dynamic where Yak’s players ported back to YBBL to clean out FA’s assault and left your homeland with a 1 v 1 TC FA battle while the majority of your forces were at Yak’s. TC found our remaining keep, tower, and supply camp completely undefended as we came back to YBBL to clean FA out.

Yesterday while making moves for your garrison, we were wiped several times by TC. Claiming 2 v 1 is a failure to understand the strategic mechanics of the game. There are definitely points and times where teams have the the incentive to work together to maximize the point grab but in the long run, only one team can win and there is only so much territory.

We have had an incredible week thus far with great battles and some good tactics displayed on the field. Let’s all remain the great sportsman that our servers have demonstrated to be and keep playing it out. Yak’s came back from a 6K deficit yesterday to claim 2nd yesterday and we’re still clipping on TC’s heels. I’d love to see FA come out and show the same tenacity as they have been the past several weeks.

Looking forward to seeing you on the battlefield.

This match-up has been a joyous one so far. Every night is a real battle, and servers don’t just wilt and take to the forums to cry.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Pendragon.8725

FA seem to zerg around more, going for things like quick map takeovers. This is good for short gain, but they can often be taken back quickly as well as their locust swarm moves on and they don’t defend/upgrade as they go.

Bingo. Case in point when FA pushed TC out of their bls late last night. We just made sure it was as painful and expensive as possible, took the time to clear our bls, and came back 20 min later to recap everything that was taken with a skeleton crew.

Also, regarding nicknames, I must suggest “Benders” after the awesome Futurama robot for YB.

Arkard.3970:

Also, regarding nicknames, I must suggest “Benders” after the awesome Futurama robot for YB.

I approve of this nickname and reference!

I’m the Norn female ranger (TC) with a star on her chest that charges up front recklessly to AoE then runs away leaving the big dumb red lizard, or green spider to gnaw on you. I don’t care if people know who I am, but I get why they did it the way they did. Hurt feelings and stalking for instance.
I think anonimity actually makes for fiercer combat though, because you forget they are real people from another server and just treat them like the pixels they are. And that’s why I won’t rest until all you scum are dead…DEAD!

I won’t call out the specific guild name, because you know who you are, but the guild in YBBL SW of Greenvale Refuge that just spent the past 5 out of 20mins exploiting some terrain bug where you were immune to damage while sticking half-way in/out of the hillside itself… Shame on you. Sad showing. Luckily for you we were too busy reporting to notice ULTD coming in behind us. Still, exploiting cause you got your tushy pushed in is pretty sad.

@ULTD: Nicely done, you guys play legit and made a nice push on our supply camp to wipe our group while we were focused elsewhere, good show. See you again momentarily.

“I won’t call out the specific guild name, because you know who you are, but the guild in YBBL SW of Greenvale Refuge that just spent the past 5 out of 20mins exploiting some terrain bug where you were immune to damage while sticking half-way in/out of the hillside itself… Shame on you. Sad showing. Luckily for you we were too busy reporting to notice ULTD coming in behind us. Still, exploiting cause you got your tushy pushed in is pretty sad.

@ULTD: Nicely done, you guys play legit and made a nice push on our supply camp to wipe our group while we were focused elsewhere, good show. See you again momentarily.”

Dont chase them that far back…its the same thing as camping them at thier spawn

Poizie.5187:

Dont chase them that far back…its the same thing as camping them at thier spawn

That’s just shy of arrow range of our supply camp… that’s nothing like camping them at their spawn. Seriously, if this is something that spreads then you will never get a group out of that supply camp who uses it. Can’t be intended.

Praised be the Golem Avatars of Death, Glory to the Golem God.
We shall build a new shrine in his name at FABL. (aka FA Garrison)

For those stuck at work, any chance of a score update?

Kalemar.4873:

For those stuck at work, any chance of a score update?

Quenta.2978:

Unfortunately.5940:

I like how TC & YB keep coming up with new ways to justify focussing FA. But it’s all good, farming your zergs last week got me more badges than any other matchup so far

You sir, no nothing about badge farming.

Let this guide enlighten you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi_7YYs1tz4

I laughed so hard I cried. Thanks for the laugh at lunch break.

ULTD hopes everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend with their families this weekend. I know the few of us on this long weekend had a lot of fun.

Our Thanksgiving fun:

Really fun fights tonight around YBBL. All sorts of 3-sided skirmishes going on in the Bay, and entertainment was abound in Longview earlier in the night.

Cheers, folks.