Guild Wars 2

big machine/little machine. If you don’t lag, T1 is a wonder of human nature. Almost a work of art.

In WvW, the balance of players depends on human personalities, politics, real stuff. In PvP, the balance of players is determined by an algorithm.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

In WvW, the balance of players depends on human personalities, politics, real stuff. In PvP, the balance of players is determined by an algorithm.

WvW and balance shouldn’t be in the same sentence. It’s insulting to the word balance. Real stuff like buying guilds, reworking WvW tournies so that two smaller servers aren’t as likely to team up against a bigger one etc. Much skill much wow.

@Straegen.2938,

If you lag in T1 and think it’s only T1 you are mistaken.
T2 lags just as much on server side as T1.

Now if its lag based on “your” side, then that is your computer/internet and it might be good for you to check into that before going to T2 fights, since they also get blobby at times.

However in reality, 16hours, or even 1 week isn’t really enough for someone to make a very informed and good judgment of a tier or server. (It takes time.)

This week many are preparing to be on vacation for the holidays. (Even havoc groups are down due to holidays, college exams, ect…)

Mishi.7058:

@Straegen.2938,

If you lag in T1 and think it’s only T1 you are mistaken.
T2 lags just as much on server side as T1.

Now if its lag based on “your” side, then that is your computer/internet and it might be good for you to check into that before going to T2 fights, since they also get blobby at times.

However in reality, 16hours, or even 1 week isn’t really enough for someone to make a very informed and good judgment of a tier or server. (It takes time.)

This week many are preparing to be on vacation for the holidays. (Even havoc groups are down due to holidays, college exams, ect…)

This.

Try it on non-push weeks, it’s less laggy.

Reverence.6915:

Hvaran.6327:

em…anothe cowboy that gor world map with only Murica.

add: EU is not like that.

EU T1 is more or less the same as NA T1 but with different points of coverage. NA T1 is a little cancerous atm due to ‘push weeks’ though.

maybe the difference between NA and EU t1 and t2 i don’t know.

But there is very small difference between t1 and t2 EU just even because of the server rotation between matches, so T1 EU roaming is same as T2 EU roaming, and totally the same with blobbing, just some stronger server show up bigger numbers against weaker servers, but roamers definetly don’t hide when #1-3 server drops into MU vs 4-6 servers. I don’t understand though how OP can divivde kitten that hard, maybe they are not that lucky on MU mixes..meh..

I started in T1, played through every tier, and came back to T1, it’s completely different from all of em. Its how to put it…an acquired taste, it takes getting used to, you simply cant understand it after such a short time. T1 is a fights tier, less interested in wins and ppt. Its people who want to fight and kill each other. There are roamers but not like it used to be. Usually its people like me who do multiple roles, and switch from zerging or scouting to flip a camp quickly to keep supplies rolling and back to zerging or scouting. Also because of the nature of t1 and the size of zergs and the constant attacks, map hopping is normal, so most of those ppl will switch maps quite often as well. It makes more sense to be able to multitask to help your server. Fighting zergs and getting used to blobbing will take some time and might require you to adjust your build and playstyle but when you get to see giant enemy groups wiped, you will really enjoy it.
Lag is always a concern for anyone doing anything in game, it used to be a lot worse believe it or not, total skilllock and dc’s were common. If it becomes to much, consider upgrading your graphics card or lowering your settings, and I do recommend always use lowest setting on character model limit.

Since your tc…I look forward to hunting you down in wvw

Hvaran.6327:

Reverence.6915:

Hvaran.6327:

em…anothe cowboy that gor world map with only Murica.

add: EU is not like that.

EU T1 is more or less the same as NA T1 but with different points of coverage. NA T1 is a little cancerous atm due to ‘push weeks’ though.

maybe the difference between NA and EU t1 and t2 i don’t know.

But there is very small difference between t1 and t2 EU just even because of the server rotation between matches, so T1 EU roaming is same as T2 EU roaming, and totally the same with blobbing, just some stronger server show up bigger numbers against weaker servers, but roamers definetly don’t hide when #1-3 server drops into MU vs 4-6 servers. I don’t understand though how OP can divivde kitten that hard, maybe they are not that lucky on MU mixes..meh..

NA T1 and T2 and T3 (except for 1 server) are locked so far apart in Glicko that we don’t get randomised matchups. There’s also MASSIVE coverage differences between kitten. It also appears that T3-T5 is way imbalanced at the moment too, though it wasn’t that way only 3 months ago.

Put it this way, Pitch 3 of the strongest EU servers against 3 of the strongest NA servers and the NA servers would PVD for 12-16 hours a day due to coverage while getting absolutely wrecked up to and during EU prime (we can maybe queue 1 map during EU prime if we’re lucky, usually empty maps all round except for each server fielding a float team). Now, pitch ranks 4-7 against each other, and the EU servers would massively out-coverage NA because except for NA prime, other times on T2 NA servers are much, much smaller teams fighting each other rather than the map blobs that T1 tends to field.

T1 is a PPT centric ktrain tier. Almost all of the fighting guilds and players that care about getting gud left T1 and transferred to T2. All that is left is blobs of players that want to ppt objectives. Bcoz T1 doesn’t facilitate and environment for guild groups to fight, gvg, or roam. Bcoz all anyone in T1 cares about it PPT and using blobs and siege to collect bags. Even the “roamers” blob and run around in what is considered havok squads by ever one else.

If you transferred to T1 expecting fights you will be sadly disappointed there are no more than 6-7 fighting guilds left in T1 and at least half of them are on TC. All of the other fighting guilds left to go to T2.

The only positive thing I can say about T1 is that there is roaming at almost all times of the day. And generally you can find other enemys in wvw 24/7. That is not to say they are interested in fighting you. Chances they care more about that PPT. And if they do fight you chances are it wont be without help of some kind.

In T1 these servers generally want to just push enemys off the map so they can own everything. They in most cases will not even fight you unless you are defending or attacking a PPT objective. It has turned into a pretty terrible tier.

2 years ago T1 was pretty decent. But now its not.

Next try T1 EU. You’ll notice a giant difference in roaming and builds. Currently at Seafaeries if you wanna join a server with a fellow roamer.

As a “region jumper” i can tell you that it’s worth jumping to learn different play styles and people

Mhmm I have never been in T1.

Highest up was T3 EU, in Gandara. My experiences there were blobs blobs and more blobs. On gandara roaming was a total let-down because you couldn’t get any good fights at all, either you moved with a pug blob and pugmander or you had to run with a guild zerg of 20+ filled with hammer warriors and staff guardians.

So T3: bad for roaming, good for zerging

I then moved to Vabbi (T9 EU) and had a great time there. Vabbi was a limited but hardcore community of roamers and a few specialised guilds. Pugs were virtually non-existent. The other servers would mostly be outnumbering Vabbi during that time, but blobs or zergs were also uncommon, so fights never got 50 vs 3, but it was still challenging.

T9: great roaming guilds, awesome solo roaming, no zergs

For a change I decided to try Ring of Fire (T6 EU) and didn’t enjoy it at all. This was during the second Tournament. Really disappointing server to play on. Experience very very similar to playing on gandara: guild zergs, virtually no roamers and pug blobs.

So my new server is Fissure of Woe (T9 EU). FoW plays a lot like Vabbi, mostly because it was one of their frequent match-ups. It has a great community and a lot of small scale groups. I’m part of a small scale guild that runs 3-7 people at all times. There are a couple of pug commanders here, but the guild roaming groups usually go their own way and fight against guilds, pug zergs or roamers from other servers.

X T D.6458:

…T1 is a fights tier, less interested in wins and ppt…

My mind has blown on that part…

Warlord.9074:

T1 is a PPT centric ktrain tier. Almost all of the fighting guilds and players that care about getting gud left T1 and transferred to T2. All that is left is blobs of players that want to ppt objectives. Bcoz T1 doesn’t facilitate and environment for guild groups to fight, gvg, or roam. Bcoz all anyone in T1 cares about it PPT and using blobs and siege to collect bags. Even the “roamers” blob and run around in what is considered havok squads by ever one else.

If you transferred to T1 expecting fights you will be sadly disappointed there are no more than 6-7 fighting guilds left in T1 and at least half of them are on TC. All of the other fighting guilds left to go to T2.

The only positive thing I can say about T1 is that there is roaming at almost all times of the day. And generally you can find other enemys in wvw 24/7. That is not to say they are interested in fighting you. Chances they care more about that PPT. And if they do fight you chances are it wont be without help of some kind.

In T1 these servers generally want to just push enemys off the map so they can own everything. They in most cases will not even fight you unless you are defending or attacking a PPT objective. It has turned into a pretty terrible tier.

2 years ago T1 was pretty decent. But now its not.

Um…are you in t1? or ever have been? Cause Idk where the kitten your getting this garbage

Jeknar.6184:

X T D.6458:

…T1 is a fights tier, less interested in wins and ppt…

My mind has blown on that part…

Theres really only PPT focus on push weeks to stay in t1 and keep rating up, or for tournaments. Otherwise daily wvw is very fights focused, and despite what someone else said, t1 is not a ktrain, heck with eotm does anyone still do those?

X T D.6458:

Warlord.9074:

T1 is a PPT centric ktrain tier. Almost all of the fighting guilds and players that care about getting gud left T1 and transferred to T2. All that is left is blobs of players that want to ppt objectives. Bcoz T1 doesn’t facilitate and environment for guild groups to fight, gvg, or roam. Bcoz all anyone in T1 cares about it PPT and using blobs and siege to collect bags. Even the “roamers” blob and run around in what is considered havok squads by ever one else.

If you transferred to T1 expecting fights you will be sadly disappointed there are no more than 6-7 fighting guilds left in T1 and at least half of them are on TC. All of the other fighting guilds left to go to T2.

The only positive thing I can say about T1 is that there is roaming at almost all times of the day. And generally you can find other enemys in wvw 24/7. That is not to say they are interested in fighting you. Chances they care more about that PPT. And if they do fight you chances are it wont be without help of some kind.

In T1 these servers generally want to just push enemys off the map so they can own everything. They in most cases will not even fight you unless you are defending or attacking a PPT objective. It has turned into a pretty terrible tier.

2 years ago T1 was pretty decent. But now its not.

Um…are you in t1? or ever have been? Cause Idk where the kitten your getting this garbage

T1 NA is very much a PPT train. People often run away from open field fights into their towers/keeps… and then siege creep war begins. Oh the fun.

Well the weekdays have brought a big improvement in the lag. I would say it is overall very sporadic and most of the time doesn’t effect game play. There are still spikes but reminds me more of T2 on weekends. Hopefully this previous weekend was particularly bad and not a typical amount of lag for weekend fighting.

Roaming during the weekdays has been pretty weak overall. Even with more people in T1, it seems few like to roam around solo. I can understand why given the number and frequency of zergs. Plus this tier seems focused around large scale fights.

In reference to skill v bunker in T1 roaming, I tried multiple popular roaming builds across about 200 roaming fights. My previously reported experiences are not about one single fight but a general feeling across all of them. In T2, my roaming warrior build is less effective since it is easily kited by skilled players. In T1, that same build is pretty effective. Partially because there are fewer 1vX fights but also because it is a very hard build to kill quickly. Most of the time I can hold out until more show up one way or another. My P/P glassy thief is having a rough week on the other hand. Too much AoE in fights to be particularly effective. Again mostly because skirmish seems to dominate over solo encounters. I have gone from being an mixed inside fighter with D/D to being almost completely P/P range/kite.

Aberrant.6749:

T1 NA is very much a PPT train. People often run away from open field fights into their towers/keeps… and then siege creep war begins. Oh the fun.

I have seen more open field in T1 than in the current T2. The old Mag/FA/SoS T2 was an open fielders dream. That said, T1 has a LOT more siege creep.

QQ about siege. I like that. I will I will ac you.

No ego boost in the world for a squish ele like a commander running away from my acs. RUN.

pfft acs…

If you want small group fights, and keep attacking the idea of PPT, what in the nap of all hypocrisy are you doing in WvW? Go play PvP. With every thing some of you are crying about, all you having nagged about is exactly what PvP is.

T1 in a nutshell… So much zergs

coglin.1867:

If you want small group fights, and keep attacking the idea of PPT, what in the nap of all hypocrisy are you doing in WvW? Go play PvP. With every thing some of you are crying about, all you having nagged about is exactly what PvP is.

Mostly this ^^^

Also, simply put, there is most certainly WvW roaming in T1. But T1 roaming is not the same as T2 or T3 roaming. If you previously enjoyed non-T1 roaming and are hoping to find that in T1, then you’re going to be disappointed. T1 involves situational awareness more often. T1 WvW is more active, more populated, with higher chances of enemy encounters. And now with the white swords temporarily removed you have as good of a chance as ever to roam more successfully.

coglin.1867:

If you want small group fights, and keep attacking the idea of PPT, what in the nap of all hypocrisy are you doing in WvW? Go play PvP. With every thing some of you are crying about, all you having nagged about is exactly what PvP is.

This guy gets it.

Basically, I think all this frustration about wvw and ppt and zergs and whatnot comes from people wanting to PvP on a slightly larger scale than 5v5. So, ANet, for the love of Balthazar, WHERE IS GVG?! Make some kitten 10v10, 20v20 etc. fight arenas already!

Custom pvp arenas can hold 10v10 at max settings. You can set score/time limit so high or mske sure game dun start before all ready meaning you can play a million matches without the pvp game mechanics interfering.

Those who refer to T1 as a blobby ktrain hasnt been there more then a few minutes during prime. I’ve spent months in T1 NA and over a year in T1 EU. In komparison, ive also spent months in T6 up to T2 EU, and 2 months in T3 NA. My time spent in NA was mostly outside seasons cuz i don’t like how NA servers almost always “fix” the matches.

I love roaming in T1. The zergs are like a force of nature. They come and they go. Sometimes they ignore you completely except for a couple stragglers that want to try and get an easy kill. It’s a lot more active, a lot more things to look out for, and I haven’t found a lack of fights while roaming yet. There are several roaming guilds on each side, and you get to know them pretty quickly. There is little solo roaming, but plenty of 5-person roaming. Getting into small group fights is the game here.

Treble.1563:

I love roaming in T1. The zergs are like a force of nature. They come and they go. Sometimes they ignore you completely except for a couple stragglers that want to try and get an easy kill. It’s a lot more active, a lot more things to look out for, and I haven’t found a lack of fights while roaming yet. There are several roaming guilds on each side, and you get to know them pretty quickly. There is little solo roaming, but plenty of 5-person roaming. Getting into small group fights is the game here.

gotta say, T1 NA had some of the best small group roaming ive been part of. Dedication, organization and skill was not the issue. JQ Map blobs however WAS an issue (its so fast and so big. U flip camp, JQ gets mad, real mad)

too bad you never encountered [RIOT] [oPP] at their prime. lost alot of roamers in t1 andi have to admit the game it getting old

I think some of you are confusing reporting on T1 roaming with complaining about it. Rather than listen to conjecture about T1 vs T2, I wanted a first hand experience to see what T1 was like on all scales of play (zergs, skirmish, roaming and dueling).

Clearly each tier is going to have its pros/cons. I am hoping that my trial run of T1 offers some insight into other players considering the same move and possibly helps find me as well as them a “forever home”. It certainly is not definitive as it is only an opinion but the experience is from someone that has been in both tiers recently.

As for sPvP if I wanted to fight in a small area for X seconds, I would play that. I like the dynamics of WvW fights, the ability to use classes/builds that I have spent months equipping and I just like to get into pickup fights wherever. I also like the openness where I can sometimes scout, defend, build siege, flip camps, zerg, kill yaks, etc. There is just more to do in WvW and more styles of fighting.

sielfiel.4692:

too bad you never encountered [RIOT] [oPP] at their prime. lost alot of roamers in t1 andi have to admit the game it getting old

oPP that overpowered something guild? the one who likes to chase someone to the corner of the earth with their so called 8-men “roamers”? k

I kinda like t1 tho. Wvw is so relaxing, since you only need to spam guardian staff 1 skill.

I like zergs, I’m sorry. I just like the way they move.

My computer doesn’t lag much, so my view is prob better than average. It can be amazing as a ranged player, I get a great view of the action sometimes.

one reason I am not support of major changes to the map. The zerg movement is really intricate.

I’m sure all of us know about choke points and high ground where they jump down on you or portal bomb you by now.

T1 EU Roamers need to have good map awareness and mobility, but it isn’t always blobs and Guild Raids really, especially at certain hours of the day
Better than having empty depressing maps – with just a PvD Karma Train hopping around.

It’s just fun. One of the best scenes I have viewed in GW2 recently was a sunset fight at Ogrewatch between TC and JQ, who was in OL. I showed up late, ran from SMC and watched TC just take down the T3 gate and run in. JQ came around the corner right behind them in the gate, and I thought, oh no, they outnumber.

But instead of running up to the lords room, our commander ran up the stairs and jumped off the wall onto JQ’s butt. Totally confused them, think their driver must have gone down or something.

Great show.

Nanyetah Elohi.4852:

It’s just fun. One of the best scenes I have viewed in GW2 recently was a sunset fight at Ogrewatch between TC and JQ, who was in OL. I showed up late, ran from SMC and watched TC just take down the T3 gate and run in. JQ came around the corner right behind them in the gate, and I thought, oh no, they outnumber.

But instead of running up to the lords room, our commander ran up the stairs and jumped off the wall onto JQ’s butt. Totally confused them, think their driver must have gone down or something.

Great show.

This happens in all tiers. NA and EU.

seems fun to me. I like zerg fights.

My best character is specifically tuned for zerg fights. I guess my computer may be, to an extent.

People complain about lag I don’t notice.

see upthread someone is afraid of arrow carts. That always just cracks me up.

3 or 4 arrowcarts build and scouted and manned by a squish ele housewife. scare you? LOL

T1 servers have been playing against one another for a long time. We don’t hate each other. We love the game.

Dude, you need to stop doing 4-5 posts in a row and condensing that kitten on a single post…

It’s TC’s village idiot, so to speak.

I bought a second account to experience different tiers and the zerg and roaming fights between them. The large zerg battles are definitely better in T1. The roaming is… Dependant on what you want to get out of it. Duels rarely happen in T1 unless organised. Small scale stuff is(was… RIP white swords) more about distracting the enemy zergs than getting kills.

Where as in lower tiers, it was more of a fight between builds, classes and skill, in T1, the builds and classes matter less and skill matters more (e.g. Managing to keep a 20 man zerg occupied by 2-3 guys kind of skill, it’s harder than you think)

All in all, it’s really up to personal taste

The cultures are very different. Small-scale in T1 centers around sniping yaks, pressuring camps, and cutting off reinforcements. It’s very much objective focused, as the servers are in general; large scale fights similarly center around attacking and defending keeps, and major nightly objectives are breaking or defending waypoints.

T2 cares a whole lot less about objectives and more about fighting in the open field – they’ve gotten a lot of transfers of guilds specifically looking for 20v20 open field fights, or the like. You’ll find more individuals running around looking to duel instead of attacking objectives.

There’s a huge culture clash when the two meet. I can remember plenty of nights where I ran past a ‘roamer’ in his full dueling glory to snipe his yak, often dying in the process. I thought he was being totally useless, since he never accomplished anything all night, yet I imagine he thought the same thing of me, since I rarely beat him in the duel I presume he was looking for.

It’s just a very different set of objectives.

Ensign.2189:

The cultures are very different. Small-scale in T1 centers around sniping yaks, pressuring camps, and cutting off reinforcements. ….

I would hold off on generalizing like that. Some of use are in T1 because everything else is dead the times we play and we don’t much care for PPT.

gennyt.3428:

Ensign.2189:

The cultures are very different. Small-scale in T1 centers around sniping yaks, pressuring camps, and cutting off reinforcements. ….

I would hold off on generalizing like that. Some of use are in T1 because everything else is dead the times we play and we don’t much care for PPT.

Like T1 dont generalize everyone else…

Chaba.5410:

If you’re on TC, go look up my FLOT bros and talk to them about T1 roaming/skirmishing. Your post is a first impression. Mine was similar.

You sexy beast!^^

OP, shoot me a PM any time, FLOT tends to roll late NA (though we have been playing more spvp since this cr*ptastic ppk no white swords thing) we will get you in our TS and show you a good time in T1 WvW.

You can get great fights both roaming and havoc, but it may take a change of mindset/build. You might need to build a bit more bulky than your would in lower tiers (at least at first, I solo roam successfully on 6/2/0/0/6 zerker necro) and always be ready to back out of a fight. Allot of people have a hard time making the adjustments needed to roll in T1. But once you get the hang of it, omg you haven’t seen fun until you have zerged with a havoc guild, gutting an 80 man bolbs back line with 5 zerker medi guards is intense!

Even if you don’t come hang out with FLOT, PM people most havoc players will be more than happy to come give you a good 1v1. Go to the pass south of SMC [Hats] quite often has some dueling going on down there.

I actually like T1 roaming. In fact, I do it on a necro quite often. I just need to be in the right places to minimize the need for mobility. I’m far from the best necro, though. I’ve only been using Necro in wvw for <1 month.
Also, I honestly had more lag problems when I was on SBI, and the lag is very useful as a “6th sense” that helps with dodging zergs.
Roaming in an organized group of about 5 is usually the best way to go in T1 roaming. The odds of being steamrolled go up significantly otherwise. : )

Well I am at the end of my quick jaunt to T1. This weekend the lag is present but very playable. I think last week was just a bad lag week. I have seen this in other tiers as well.

Zergs: I have come away with an appreciation of the general zerg in T1 and the skill of their PUGs in large scale fights. T1 is heavily skewed towards the GWEN model emphasizing Necro/Ele ranged pressure with heavies moping up. Tons of driver sniping and uplevels are generally too squishy for the mass AoE. If you like epic large scale fights, no question T1 is the place to be.

Skirmish: This is also fairly strong with fights typically escalating in numbers. Oddly most fights felt like skirmish fights outside of a zerg.

Roaming: If there was a disappointment this is where I found it. Roaming in this tier is just not as fun to me. Too many people grouping up to get a good stream of solid small scale fights. Weekdays were better, but still not nearly as good as T2 in my opinion. I remain convinced that the best small scale fights are found opposite of FA. FA has a really solid core of roamers and small scale fighters.

GvG: Virtually non-existent. This style has been dying off in every tier since the collapse of GvG in T2 a few months back so not a big surprise to see virtually no GvG open field fighting.

Dueling: My plan going into this tier was to accept any direct duel requests on the spot. I got into 2 duels total while in this tier. If you like dueling, move along or possibly land in a guild that will organize this. Impromptu duels are very few.

One thing that did irk me was a continual double team against TC on their BL during the weekends. I can see how this would be fun for some but not something I enjoyed. For me having two enemies gang up on a server down in points seems unsportsmanlike but WvW was never meant to be a fair fight so that is a personal objection only.

As for me, back to T2 next week. I find the tier a better fit for my style of WvW play.

Glad you enjoyed some of what T1 has to offer. There used to be more GvGs, but quite a few JQ fight guilds left and TC guilds leaving as well, leaving very few guilds left to GvG. The most GvG guilds left on T1 now are on BG (could use a NA guild or two to JQ to balance stuff out and for GvGs). I agree that solo roaming isn’t really a thing in T1, but that’s just how the tier is.

Come back again in a few months :p

Straegen.2938:

Well I am at the end of my quick jaunt to T1. This weekend the lag is present but very playable. I think last week was just a bad lag week. I have seen this in other tiers as well.

Zergs: I have come away with an appreciation of the general zerg in T1 and the skill of their PUGs in large scale fights. T1 is heavily skewed towards the GWEN model emphasizing Necro/Ele ranged pressure with heavies moping up. Tons of driver sniping and uplevels are generally too squishy for the mass AoE. If you like epic large scale fights, no question T1 is the place to be.

Skirmish: This is also fairly strong with fights typically escalating in numbers. Oddly most fights felt like skirmish fights outside of a zerg.

Roaming: If there was a disappointment this is where I found it. Roaming in this tier is just not as fun to me. Too many people grouping up to get a good stream of solid small scale fights. Weekdays were better, but still not nearly as good as T2 in my opinion. I remain convinced that the best small scale fights are found opposite of FA. FA has a really solid core of roamers and small scale fighters.

GvG: Virtually non-existent. This style has been dying off in every tier since the collapse of GvG in T2 a few months back so not a big surprise to see virtually no GvG open field fighting.

Dueling: My plan going into this tier was to accept any direct duel requests on the spot. I got into 2 duels total while in this tier. If you like dueling, move along or possibly land in a guild that will organize this. Impromptu duels are very few.

One thing that did irk me was a continual double team against TC on their BL during the weekends. I can see how this would be fun for some but not something I enjoyed. For me having two enemies gang up on a server down in points seems unsportsmanlike but WvW was never meant to be a fair fight so that is a personal objection only.

As for me, back to T2 next week. I find the tier a better fit for my style of WvW play.

Move to EU. Find a new playing field. New attitudes (american attitudes are wastly different from that of british, french, german, polish etc~ ). It may seem like a trivial thing, but it changes things immensely.

Those who claim the lag is an issue or the ping got no clue. Iv’e moved back and fourth, along with a couple of others. The lag is only noticably worse during 3 way SM/Garrison fights. Basically, horrible lag gets worse, all other lag is about the same.

i cannot say roaming is better in T1 EU but the matchups ARE.
T1 and T2 is so close they regularily get matched, different servers provide different playstyles, some is more roaming/havoc heavy, some is more zerg heavy. Some is a balanced mix.

Staying in one region is not the answer if you are looking for a place to “settle down”-

Prysin.8542:

Move to EU. Find a new playing field. New attitudes (american attitudes are wastly different from that of british, french, german, polish etc~ ). It may seem like a trivial thing, but it changes things immensely.

I may try that next month when I am ready to mix things up again. For now, I am headed back to YB as I miss killing (and getting killed) by the fine folks over on FA. I also miss pickup skirmish with the fantastic roamers of YB (vT, RAM, etc).

I am coming for you BLNT and PRAE! I know you have missed me.

Tiffany.8576:

Having moved to JQ recently from T2 YB with my guild, there are definitely downsides to going to T1. I was never that big of a fan of huge blob battles and preferred 15s and 20s, but T1 servers definitely run fat. The bags are glorious, of course, but when you’re running with numbers that big fights essentially boil down to standing off each other and trying to bait the other into wasting their CDs. Melee can’t really push in without eating about 50 necro wells and melting instantly, so there’s a lot of standing around staring at each other, fake pushing, etc.

I have to say I seriously miss T2 reset night as T1 reset basically comprised of fights like the above, repairing walls/gates and queuing. It wasn’t half as fun as T2. Good luck running in 10-15 person groups if that’s all you have on in your guild at the time, you pretty much stand no chance whenever the blob shows up. You either blob up yourself or get farmed by 60 people spamming 1. GG.

Having said that, JQ community seems cool and the quality of PUGs/militia in T1 seems to be much higher than lower tiers, probably because they’re very used to this style of play. There’s also action pretty much 24/7 so there’s always something going on. Running around PvDing outside of NA hours in lower tiers or finding out there was just nothing at all going on was never that fun, although it was nice to be able to roam or run with a smaller group and still be able accomplish things; something which is exceedingly difficult to do in T1 due to the sheer number of people running around in blobs.

I’m hoping T1 will grow on me after I’ve been here for awhile. I definitely can see it isn’t for everyone, though. I’ll definitely be investing in an alt account next time GW2 is on sale to put on a lower tier server.

Ya know you guys are always welcome back on YB. The fights have been real the last two weeks. Those meanies on SoS and FA are teaming up on us since you left.

Reverence.6915:

It’s TC’s village idiot, so to speak.

I bought a second account to experience different tiers and the zerg and roaming fights between them. The large zerg battles are definitely better in T1. The roaming is… Dependant on what you want to get out of it. Duels rarely happen in T1 unless organised. Small scale stuff is(was… RIP white swords) more about distracting the enemy zergs than getting kills.

Where as in lower tiers, it was more of a fight between builds, classes and skill, in T1, the builds and classes matter less and skill matters more (e.g. Managing to keep a 20 man zerg occupied by 2-3 guys kind of skill, it’s harder than you think)

All in all, it’s really up to personal taste

I’m going to disagree here with you about builds, classes, and skills. The builds are well known throughout the tiers, as are the classes. They have dubbed it GWEN for a reason. The main difference here in T2 is that guild groups run 20-25 max(in general), and so there is less margin for error.

I played on BG for almost a year in total, and fights there seemed like cruise control compared to T2 fights. Much of the reason for that is the lag situation that existed/exists in T1. Players there are/were used to the 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 type of fighting in zergs, because good luck getting anything else to fire when you needed it.

In T2 there isn’t nearly the noticeable lag, and so you have to be able to use all of your skills pretty much exactly when needed or you die. Lots more people able to run glassier builds here since their skills can fire when used, and so the bombs actually hit like bombs.