Lord Pharaoh – sylvari ranger
etc, etc – one 80 of each class
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I hate not being able to play anything but my main in WvW. I actually quit WvW all together for awhile because if this. Now that I’ve decided to do the achievements I am feeling all the rage and frustration of being stuck on my main all day again. Just feels like a huge waste of time if I earn wxp on an alt though :-(
I have five 80s and plan to have one of each class. It would be much more fun to be able to alt about and cheat on my main without giving up progression.
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It’s time for the change! Please do it finally.
. Just feels like a huge waste if time if I earn wxp on an alt though :-(
This pretty much sums up exactly why I feel constrained to play one toon in wvw- and have even pretty much given up on my other a/c (along with time gating of ascended rings, etc ).
the problem with the not-account bound wxp its root you to one character. in spvp you can change any time easyli when the meta changes. in pve you can learn every skills within a week or less (20 seconds with scrolls)
what if you bored with your character and want to change, but you dont want to be less useful? :/
As is now, most of us agree that these 2 buffs are against the consensus of the game
must have missed this memo
It needs to change! This SHOULD be account wide.
This needs to happen.
It makes so much sense….
I feel this is much different from the time gating of gear and crafting materials. This game is designed (with good reason I believe) to allow seamless character swapping and alting in a lot of situations in PVE. You can even do so in structured PVP! WVW is the only place where you are punished for using an alt to do something. I was mapping on my warrior and then saw I’d earned some wxp. It kitten ed me off because I need those points on my mesmer! So I stopped playing WVW for awhile. Now with these achievements I wanted to start back. I played my mesmer there all day yesterday. Today I would rather play my ele a bit, but I can’t, instead I’ll have to play my mesmer again all day :-( Separating titles is fine but not resources….. Even if the account wide wxp was a resource that you used up when you applied it to your character so that you had to earn more if you wanted to apply points on an alt that would be fine.
They have it in Spvp.
You play and gain glory and its character wide.
You decide you want a change and try another class and you have access to the same level of glory on that toon as well.I enjoy playing a different class every now and then i get brunt out and want to try something different in WvW. but its a pain in the butt to be useless with no wvw skills on my new level 80 character that just stepped in WvW compared to someone who has the guard buffs and defence against siege. >.>
Also most ppl have enough points to unlock most of the skills so even if the points you invest in one character is carried over i dont see the problem with make the increase damage to gaurds on all characters because you already unlocked it
Poor analogy SPvP and WvW are very separate gametypes. Wxp should never be account bound, though I do feel that the rank you display should be.
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I want account wide wxp and the chance to re-trait your rank points as many times as you want, just like normal traits.
Only people who zerg all day every day could see no problem in character bound wxp. Me, I have 4 toons rank 90, 30 and 2 around 20.
I don’t really care about my WvW title I care that every time I go in to WvW on an alt I am effectively devaluing my main. Guild Wars has never been a franchise about locking you into one character and I’ve always appreciated that. Even if all WXP was given in the form of consumables which I could pass to my main later, that would be preferable to the irritation I feel every time I notice the WXP skill points on my warrior….
There are only two groups of people who don’t see the problem: Anet devs (who don’t play wvw) and people who just play one toon (generally warrior/guardian).
Anyone who plays more than one toon knows that char bound wvw totally sucks, and sucks more the more ranks you clock up on alts or your main. Wexp liquid drops are a joke if they are meant to be helping alts- as you can use them on the toon that dropped them, so they don’t help at all.
People saying it will make upscaled too strong don’t know how the upscaling works (and they could easily code it so the +250 vit points don’t scale).
I’d like to switch toons – like when I notice we are short on necros, or eles, but at the moment I am heavily penalised for doing so which discourages me from doing so, hence restricting my enjoyment of the game.
I think we’re all wasting our breath here though, as it’s quite clear that wvw is lowest priority for the devs in the game and account bound wexp would be even lower downt the list than that.
And finally, why the hell can’t we re arrange our rank points in the same way as we can trait points??
There are only two groups of people who don’t see the problem: Anet devs (who don’t play wvw) and people who just play one toon (generally warrior/guardian).
Anyone who plays more than one toon knows that char bound wvw totally sucks, and sucks more the more ranks you clock up on alts or your main. Wexp liquid drops are a joke if they are meant to be helping alts- as you can use them on the toon that dropped them, so they don’t help at all.
People saying it will make upscaled too strong don’t know how the upscaling works (and they could easily code it so the +250 vit points don’t scale).
I’d like to switch toons – like when I notice we are short on necros, or eles, but at the moment I am heavily penalised for doing so which discourages me from doing so, hence restricting my enjoyment of the game.
I think we’re all wasting our breath here though, as it’s quite clear that wvw is lowest priority for the devs in the game and account bound wexp would be even lower downt the list than that.
And finally, why the hell can’t we re arrange our rank points in the same way as we can trait points??
I’m as mesmer and I’m fine with character bound WXP. My ranks represents the time and effort I put into that particular character (which I care about) and not just my “account”, which I do not care about.
Those of us who play a lot of hours, we spend a heap of time playing…..we have multiple characters. We have these characters, because we want to avoid becoming “burnt out”. Attrition is a big part of GW2. And diversity is the spice of life.
But through the WvWXP being character bound, and im a hardcore WvWer, I feel completely and utterly pigeon holed into playing one character and levelling him up. There is literally no point in having 6 of my characters all level 50, its useless. I need to play one character and have him on level 230 at least, to make it worth my time.
For the love of god, please allow WvWXP to be account bound! It would be the best Christmas present in the world
A much needed change account rank , but abilities per charcter not account , you still get the points but can spend em once per character , this is a no brainer tbh
Maybe they want to sell more wxp boosters … which i wont buy because a really minor boost on a short time limit for one character doesnt sound appealing. On the opposite what it does sound like is that anet is community-unfriendly and greedy.
This. Greed and money. I would love to see how many of those stupid things have been bought.
I want to switch to my alts to run in WvW, but i can’t because i will loose WXP on my main. So i haven’t played my alts ever since WXP system was introduced.
That’s my feedback on current WXP system.
Victor.2879 waste of breath or not they are gonna here me complain until I know longer have to bar my alts from WvW……squeaky wheel and all that.
The worst part for me is the total communication black-out Anet seems to operate under. If they find something uncomfortable, they simply don’t say anything on it. they declared they have no intention to make WXP account wide, but they never gave the reason for that. THAT, implies they have something the general public would not like to hear if they were told, be it a valid reason or not.
This kind of clandistane behabiour is indemic in organizations that operate the “woool over thei clients eyes” model, where, the less your client understand about your product or reasons, the less they will find wrong with your decision. This prompted me to have a quick look at Anet’s core values… except, I could not find the company profile, although I found this:
Community
Team Driven
PERSONAL GROWTH
ENVIRONMENT
Now, you can make what you want from that, but if you understand they idea behind corporate values, then you will understand that those are the things you make your decisions against.
Interesting then, that community is top of that list… assuming that is their values, as it is not exactly written as such on their corporate site.
Yeah, guys, sorry, but they way they see it right now, is its their business, and we, the customers of that business have nothing to do with the way they run it, and nor do they have to justify they way they do things to us.
Reminds you of BP oil much?
dont worry guys. they will make wxp account dound, but they dont want to give us all of the cookies. we know, they know the account bound things make a game like this more enjoyable for a loooong time.
+1 for account bound everything.
They’ll make it account bound when the game starts hemorrhaging players.
ANet don’t do account bound wxp.
Annoyed by: That it is incredibly difficult to max out one character.
Angered by: That they already screwed up the WvW achievements by making them virtually impossible and went and did a similar thing with WxP.
Saddened by: The ANet statements that Account Bound WvW levels will never come to pass.
Hopeful for: That ANet has back tracked on statements before and they have been made several account bound changes
Will settle for: Making it so that masteries can be earned in 100-200 hours of active WvW play.
Will probably get: Disappointed.
WvW Coordinator
I’m going to lock this post for 2 reasons. 1) This topic has been discussed ad infinitum and we have given our reasons for the system as it currently exists. 2) There will be more information about changes to the Wxp system in the next few weeks.
We appreciate the passion you all have for WvW and GW2 and we are doing what we can to align the systems in the game with our core philosophy. We completely agree that there is an inherent lack of alt-friendliness with the system as it is currently set up, which is why we are working on making changes to it. As we have more information to announce about those changes, we will share it with you all.
Tl;dr: We are working on making the Wxp system more alt-friendly and we will have more to share in the coming weeks.
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