Guild Wars 2

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-March-26-2013/first#post1700276

World vs. World
Updated World vs. World UI screen to include a new ranking system and score breakdowns by map.
Updated Outmanned bonus to increase World XP, receive no armor damage on death, and increase experience.
Fixed areas where terrain could be exploited to gain access to World vs. World objectives by unintended means.
Aldon’s Ledge siege upgrade now successfully completes.
Ballista bonus damage to siege no longer has the chance to apply to players.
Armor and weapon vendors
Updated their positions slightly.
Updated the items and their costs for some merchants.
Sigil of Leeching no longer affects gates.
Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates.

The price of black lion chests is going to skyrocket

•Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates

This will be interesting

No armor damage when you have the outmanned buff!

Ruprect.7260:

•Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates

This will be interesting

Kind of overdue – was one of the most weirdest “pro” tips that I learned.

Dealing damage through the doors feels really weird – with anything.

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

EDIT = I Mean WP Bombing exploit.

playandchill.3908:

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

Culling is gone… portal bombing is pending on said change.

playandchill.3908:

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

Portal bombing is so last month lol, does anyone even do it any more, it’s so easy to counter.

What do you mean AC on rams?

KLuka.4892:

Ruprect.7260:

•Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates

This will be interesting

Kind of overdue – was one of the most weirdest “pro” tips that I learned.

Dealing damage through the doors feels really weird – with anything.

so i wonder if everything else will still damage rams through gates, and if everything not a ram will still be damaged by catapults through gates.

guess we’ll find out the answer to these questions and more soon.

Question is will it also meen that Arrowcarts and players cant shoot at things on the otherside off the gate?

Ruprect.7260:

playandchill.3908:

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

Portal bombing is so last month lol, does anyone even do it any more, it’s so easy to counter.

What do you mean AC on rams?

I think he means shooting ac through gates to damage both player and the ram. around 4-5 ACs can destroy a ram easy.

Quickness nerf big nerf.

kuora.5402:

Ruprect.7260:

playandchill.3908:

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

Portal bombing is so last month lol, does anyone even do it any more, it’s so easy to counter.

What do you mean AC on rams?

I think he means shooting ac through gates to damage both player and the ram. around 4-5 ACs can destroy a ram easy.

Hmmm, how would you defend if AC’s could not hit rams? Is there an exploit I am not aware of? I can think of a few spots that are probably not intended.

Kraken.7514:

Quickness nerf big nerf.

no more ultra-fast golems destroying Gates I guess

EDIT: stupid question…. what do you mean with AC?

Kraken.7514:

Quickness nerf big nerf.

Is this referring to the Mesmer time warp? Is that quickness?

•Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates
Bahh its way to easy to take a tower/keep now needs to be harder not easier

Ruprect.7260:

kuora.5402:

Ruprect.7260:

playandchill.3908:

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

Portal bombing is so last month lol, does anyone even do it any more, it’s so easy to counter.

What do you mean AC on rams?

I think he means shooting ac through gates to damage both player and the ram. around 4-5 ACs can destroy a ram easy.

Hmmm, how would you defend if AC’s could not hit rams? Is there an exploit I am not aware of? I can think of a few spots that are probably not intended.

You can simply shoot the AC at the gate, and it will hit the rams on the other side, not unlike the cata.

Arrow Carts shoot above and over gates/walls so…no they will not fix them shooting through a gate because they…don’t.

Ruprect.7260:

Kraken.7514:

Quickness nerf big nerf.

Is this referring to the Mesmer time warp? Is that quickness?

Yes it is

Ruprect.7260:

Kraken.7514:

Quickness nerf big nerf.

Is this referring to the Mesmer time warp? Is that quickness?

Yes, that is one form.

Outmanned buff!
Free suicides into siege!

fivekiller.1432:

KLuka.4892:

Ruprect.7260:

•Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates

This will be interesting

Kind of overdue – was one of the most weirdest “pro” tips that I learned.

Dealing damage through the doors feels really weird – with anything.

so i wonder if everything else will still damage rams through gates, and if everything not a ram will still be damaged by catapults through gates.

guess we’ll find out the answer to these questions and more soon.

Definitely going to affect the way standard siege placement happens.

Vanity.2506:

Ruprect.7260:

Kraken.7514:

Quickness nerf big nerf.

Is this referring to the Mesmer time warp? Is that quickness?

Yes, that is one form.

Ugh. That is the end of golem rushes then. They will be dead before long before they can do enough damage to be worth the cost.

Changed “NCsoft” to “NCSOFT” throughout.

Finally!

Removing Culling and adding a system for WvW progression are big enough upgrades to get me back into the fight.

There were more changes to PvE, and sPvP than there were for WvW. I think I’m done with this game.

I’m so sick and tired of being ignored by the develepors. I don’t know why every game mode I choose in every game gets the least attention.

salluks.6017:

Updated Outmanned bonus to increase World XP, receive no armor damage on death, and increase experience.
Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates.

these + timewarp nerf are nice….(i use a mesmer .-. also).

I heard talk on the reveal being placed on the end of stealth regardless of how stealth ended. It’s not in the patch notes so I take it that didn’t happen?

jkctmc.8754:

There were more changes to PvE, and sPvP than there were for WvW. I think I’m done with this game.

I’m so sick and tired of being ignored by the develepors. I don’t know why every game mode I choose in every game gets the least attention.

There were less notes but an entire WvW progression system is a huge change. Removing culling is a huge change. Those are just 2 notes.

It isn’t about how many notes there are.. it’s about what the notes are.

bradderzh.2378:

I heard talk on the reveal being placed on the end of stealth regardless of how stealth ended. It’s not in the patch notes so I take it that didn’t happen?

•Stealth: The duration of Revealed has been increased to 4 seconds when coming out of stealth via an attack.

jkctmc.8754:

There were more changes to PvE, and sPvP than there were for WvW. I think I’m done with this game.

I’m so sick and tired of being ignored by the develepors. I don’t know why every game mode I choose in every game gets the least attention.

Culling is one of the biggest fixes this game has seen, and is primarily a WVW benefit… and your complaining its not big enough? You have any idea the amount of work it would have taken to roll this fix out as is?

bradderzh.2378:

I heard talk on the reveal being placed on the end of stealth regardless of how stealth ended. It’s not in the patch notes so I take it that didn’t happen?

a dev dropped a comment on that in the thief forums…
Something along the lines of the changes being deemed too extreme and unpredictable in comjunction with culling fix, so they settled for the 1 sec revealed increase instead.

Ethose.5694:

jkctmc.8754:

There were more changes to PvE, and sPvP than there were for WvW. I think I’m done with this game.

I’m so sick and tired of being ignored by the develepors. I don’t know why every game mode I choose in every game gets the least attention.

There were less notes but an entire WvW progression system is a huge change. Removing culling is a huge change. Those are just 2 notes.

It isn’t about how many notes there are.. it’s about what the notes are.

They shouldn’t have done anything with PvE, or sPvP. Instead all the time should have been on WvW. They’ve been working on the other two for MONTHS ignoring WvW.

Half of what they hinted at being in this patch, IS NOT.

It’s not like culling could have been any harder than creating the entire array of Fractuls, and the multiple world events, and holiday events they’ve done for the PvE crowd, or the new sPvP maps, and such.

Grenade Kit skill: Grenades no longer require the player to have line of sight of the target area to throw them.

This may change sieging/defending towers forever, depending how it works.

How long ’til patch?

Ruprect.7260:

bradderzh.2378:

I heard talk on the reveal being placed on the end of stealth regardless of how stealth ended. It’s not in the patch notes so I take it that didn’t happen?

•Stealth: The duration of Revealed has been increased to 4 seconds when coming out of stealth via an attack.

Lol, so the thieves that stealth abuse can carry on as they wish but those actually using stealth to activate the more powerful attacks suffer a drop in dps. That’s kinda funny xD.

bradderzh.2378:

Ruprect.7260:

bradderzh.2378:

I heard talk on the reveal being placed on the end of stealth regardless of how stealth ended. It’s not in the patch notes so I take it that didn’t happen?

•Stealth: The duration of Revealed has been increased to 4 seconds when coming out of stealth via an attack.

Lol, so the thieves that stealth abuse can carry on as they wish but those actually using stealth to activate the more powerful attacks suffer a drop in dps. That’s kinda funny xD.

How does no culling + longer revealed debuff allow stealth abuse to continue…?

Every thief in the game will be visible for a minimum of 4 seconds when they come out of stealth to attack. If they’re not attacking, I couldn’t care less if I can see them or not.
If you cannot burst/stun a thief to death in 4 seconds then stealth is not why you’re losing.

I sincerely hope that new world pvp experience/title thing takes into account past work and not start everyone off at bare bones. That’s just be a slap in the face to all the people who have made a ton of progress already.

playandchill.3908:

kitten no nerf to portal bombing nor AC on rams :/

Do people even use portal bombing (especially successfully) these days?

I am talking about the annoying ones that do nothing, just c&d c&d with the occasional real attack. They don’t get the revealed debuff so no dps in 4 seconds as you say…

Yeah they don’t do anything, but if they are in a tower and you don’t have a large population server to afford enough people to stay in the tower to carpet aoes/ wait around for him to get bored or attack the guards, they will just run around taping the idiotic npc’s and archers.

Before putting in free transfers again, I wonder if Anet took into consideration the issue with free transfers, and how a mass transfer to Kaineng disrupted PvP/WvW for many servers as they made their climb from Tier 8, giving many servers weeks, upon weeks of interruption, that left a very bad taste in the mouths, even causing many to quit.

It’s bad enough we didn’t get the WvW patch many of us expected.

Perma stealth remains – good for scouting, but no more jumping in and out of stealth every sec :P

lots of good WvW changes in this patch…love the new outmanned bonus, it’s finally a bit more encouraging.

EnRohbi.2187:

bradderzh.2378:

Ruprect.7260:

bradderzh.2378:

I heard talk on the reveal being placed on the end of stealth regardless of how stealth ended. It’s not in the patch notes so I take it that didn’t happen?

•Stealth: The duration of Revealed has been increased to 4 seconds when coming out of stealth via an attack.

Lol, so the thieves that stealth abuse can carry on as they wish but those actually using stealth to activate the more powerful attacks suffer a drop in dps. That’s kinda funny xD.

How does no culling + longer revealed debuff allow stealth abuse to continue…?

Every thief in the game will be visible for a minimum of 4 seconds when they come out of stealth to attack. If they’re not attacking, I couldn’t care less if I can see them or not.
If you cannot burst/stun a thief to death in 4 seconds then stealth is not why you’re losing.

Wrong. The most annoying thieves are the Dagger Off-Hand thieves. This nerfs their stealth capability considerably and makes it easier to kill or stun them before they can stealth again.

Pistol-offhand thieves can still maintain unlimited stealth, but they’re easy to deal with out of stealth.

If you manage to defend your keep for the length of the event, you deserve a tiny 3second window for reinforcements to show up

“Outmanned bonus to increase World XP, receive no armor damage on death, and increase experience.”

sounds great.

Ruprect.7260:

playandchill.3908:

When the whole Zone/Zerg use WP 3 secs before/after timer ends to port in a contested keep.

It sucks.

How is that an exploit, a few patches ago they increased the time and made this easier to do. This is working as intended.

They said they were going to find a way to remove it, both so that a single tap wont close the WP for 3 mins, and that the contested wont ever expire so long as the keep actually is under attack. Not that they had found a way, just that it was being considered.

Guess I’ll save some silver on Gate-a-pults and outmanned repairs. Woot!

hplee.2839:

“Outmanned bonus to increase World XP, receive no armor damage on death, and increase experience.”

sounds great.

What good are xp’s to level 80s? I’ve been using this buff to level alts, but the state of WvW gets worse every patch. At this point like many others I think I’m done with this game.

They spend so much time enhancing PvE, and sPvP, while making changes to WvW that make absolutely no sense.

jkctmc.8754:

hplee.2839:

“Outmanned bonus to increase World XP, receive no armor damage on death, and increase experience.”

sounds great.

What good are xp’s to level 80s?

More skill points for more superior siege upgrading.

urzen.7096:

Ruprect.7260:

playandchill.3908:

When the whole Zone/Zerg use WP 3 secs before/after timer ends to port in a contested keep.

It sucks.

How is that an exploit, a few patches ago they increased the time and made this easier to do. This is working as intended.

They said they were going to find a way to remove it, both so that a single tap wont close the WP for 3 mins, and that the contested wont ever expire so long as the keep actually is under attack. Not that they had found a way, just that it was being considered.

It almost sounds like you would rather PvDoor, than actually fight the enemy. Towers, and Keeps are so easy to take, there is no need to have a perma contested waypoint.