Guild Wars 2

Katzyn.9703:

Lol…yeah, the bow is usually the “I come in peace” sign…and it’s sad that you bowed…then killed him. Well, I guess you didn’t know, lol.

uhmm what? no. i bow, you bow, we 1v1. is that not clearly how things work? if i didn’t want someone to attack me. id wave or kneel. possibly even sit or something. but definitely not bow. that means business.

edit: /cry. i personally am HORRIBLE at jp’s i was in the arena once and it took me like 30 minutes. there was a yaks bend Mesmer in there that was initially hitting me and knocking me off every once in a while. but when he realized just how terrible i was and i /cried a couple times he escorted me the rest of the way. ughggh jp’s. but thank you to this nice yak guy. this was months ago

Personally, I think there’s nothing wrong if people do decide to kill you in a PVP zone regardless if it’s in the JP. It’s the mechanic of the game. Although I understand the morality behind it all. But you cannot take it against a player if he/she decides not to stand down. It’s a tricky case really. At the end of the day, it will boil down to personal beliefs and recent experiences. For instance, there are times that I would let someone pass when I’m feeling nice, but let’s say someone killed me in the JP then I’m in that PVP mood and eager to get back at that guy…then that might not be the case next time around when someone attempts to have a truce in JP with me. So it’s very subjective.

“I feel bad for killing a player who clearly had no intention of fighting me. Twice.”

ROFL this is the biggest troll post ever.

Most posts in this thread have the right idea but a few just annoy the hell out of me. Yes WvW is all about the killing and yes the JPs are PvP areas (and should stay that way). But in a 1on1 situation why is it that some people feel the need to stomp a guy who is just there for an achievement/some badges? It doesnt make the thing between your legs any bigger…

I dont understand people who think it makes them ‘the big man’ to kill a player who doesnt want to fight. Its disrespectful…but there are idiots out there who think that if they win a 1on1 fight against someone with a handicap (not prepared to fight) means theyre the better GW2 player. Catch me in a JP and youll beat me as I do very little damage….doesnt make me the worse player. Its just the fact that I play a specific role within my guild group.

Saying that…. /bow has always been a go-ahead to duel in my eyes. Non-combatants that I come across usually stand still and jump a couple of times. I jump a couple of times as well and then we both know that neither wants a fight.

Yesterday I was really close to killing one of the skill point challenges and someone attacked me, killed me while I was trying to back off, and then proceeded to kill the skill challenge for themself. >.<

I usually back off. If they want to fight I give it a go, but even if I’m about to win I usually just use my ele powers to run away. Its usually a long journey if I lose, and I don’t care enough from a pride stand point to bother with it.

One time I even met a Kaineng person while completing a skill challenge and he/she helped me complete it, then we each went on about our way. Those are moments I remember, not the times I fight someone till the death just for a usually worthless bag.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

According to everyone here, courtesy is for the weak. In my little experience of WvW it seems like everyone is a ravenous dog looking for kills and loot. Atleast most people in PvP have the kitten decency to say “Gg” afterwards and are respectful. Camping jumping puzzles… honestly.

You’re confused. A “Christmas truce” where everyone decides not to murder each other right now is fine. The movie “Warhorse” had another good example where it’s probably okay to not murder each other right now.

If your enemy is out there looting siege equipment that they are going to use later to kill you and everyone you know then maaaaaybe that’s a dumb time for a truce. (“Haha yes, let us have peace on this day! Say, can you help me carry this cannon? In the spirit of brotherly love, would you mind helping me load it? Okay, now go stand over there…”)

I have no opinion on this matter other than camping JPs is a lame way to gank mostly PvE players. Why even bother, you know they won’t be much of a fight. Get some real action.

Slamz.5376:

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

According to everyone here, courtesy is for the weak. In my little experience of WvW it seems like everyone is a ravenous dog looking for kills and loot. Atleast most people in PvP have the kitten decency to say “Gg” afterwards and are respectful. Camping jumping puzzles… honestly.

You’re confused. A “Christmas truce” where everyone decides not to murder each other right now is fine. The movie “Warhorse” had another good example where it’s probably okay to not murder each other right now.

If your enemy is out there looting siege equipment that they are going to use later to kill you and everyone you know then maaaaaybe that’s a dumb time for a truce. (“Haha yes, let us have peace on this day! Say, can you help me carry this cannon? In the spirit of brotherly love, would you mind helping me load it? Okay, now go stand over there…”)

Except that for a lot of people, they don’t care about the siege equipment. I myself have just destroyed them since they take up precious space in my inventory.

Kill them if you want.
It’s WvWvW. Sure it’s nice to let them go by, but there is nothing wrong with killing them as it was the design.
I’ve had too many raiding parties run to jumping puzzles for sanctuary, so I just kill everyone I see.

Exception is non-level 80 characters. If I see crap armor, I’ll wave and let them pass on by. If they touch me, I kill them.

bhagwad.4281:

Slamz.5376:

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

According to everyone here, courtesy is for the weak. In my little experience of WvW it seems like everyone is a ravenous dog looking for kills and loot. Atleast most people in PvP have the kitten decency to say “Gg” afterwards and are respectful. Camping jumping puzzles… honestly.

You’re confused. A “Christmas truce” where everyone decides not to murder each other right now is fine. The movie “Warhorse” had another good example where it’s probably okay to not murder each other right now.

If your enemy is out there looting siege equipment that they are going to use later to kill you and everyone you know then maaaaaybe that’s a dumb time for a truce. (“Haha yes, let us have peace on this day! Say, can you help me carry this cannon? In the spirit of brotherly love, would you mind helping me load it? Okay, now go stand over there…”)

Except that for a lot of people, they don’t care about the siege equipment. I myself have just destroyed them since they take up precious space in my inventory.

You sir, should be killed every time you enter the jumping puzzle as you are an anathma to the WvW world.

I don’t personally kill people in there, although I think they should be killed, as I despise jumping puzzles more than normal PVE content, thus do not find myself in there, but for you, I would sit and kill you over and over until you logged off.

Minu.5792:

You sir, should be killed every time you enter the jumping puzzle

Yes, thank you, that is exactly my point! We should all be killed every time we enter the jumping puzzle.

Maybe the better discussion should be, “What class is best at killing people every time they enter the jumping puzzle?” I should think thief but for the borderlands I actually think a ranger might do well. After that first jump people should be low health and it’s just a question of finishing them off as quickly as possible, which I would think a ranged class would be good at. Engineers can be good too though, as can necros — basically drop mines/turrets/marks at the drop-in location and keep them refreshed. People take the dive and them blamo, mines, flamethrower turrets and chillbains everywhere.

For the Eternal JP, though, I would think a straight forward dueling build thief would be best. Plus if 40 people jump down you can just stealth around a corner and port out if you need to.

Not killing them means you’re giving the enemy team siege to use against killing you. So, why feel bad? The same people who /bow, could very well be the ones you spam /laugh emotes. Those people need to be auto-muted imo.

I think the two JP are used differently and should be treated differently. The EB JP is used by guilds to get siege for their side, so fighting in there makes sense strategically. Mesmers port everyone up to grab the loot, and stopping it denies that side a significant supply of blueprints. I’ve even seen folks take the whole zerg in there and port like 70 people to the chest in under 60 seconds.

BL JP is a bit different – carebear country. Folks in there are usually working on their Legendary weapon, and ganking them seems like bad form – too easy and not really serving any strategic purpose since most of them are never gonna use the siege.

That’s how I look at it, anyhow, but to each their own.

I never kill in the JPs

I just choose the most time-consuming missed jump location and push/pull them off.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

I never kill in the JPs

I just choose the most time-consuming missed jump location and push/pull them off.

When you can no longer rez from fully dead, this will be even more fun.

Azaruil.3406:

Kill it. Kill it again. Keep killing it until it rage quits.

ugh.

I have had many peaceful encounters in the JP with opposing factions, and some not so. If you are spoiling for a fight, I will oblige you, and if not, I will go about my business peacefully. The Badge mechanic alone is enough reason to allow potentially non-pvpers to go about their business without harassment.

If you want a war, join up. This is a game.

This is silly. I will defend pvp in jumping puzzles to my last breath, because it is wvw, and if you go in, expect to be attacked.

That being said, the OP has the most convoluted and incomprehensible set of arguments I’ve ever seen.

“I felt bad about killing this guy that obviously didn’t want to fight me in the JP, so I decided to kill him again and see if that made me feel better”

I mean, seriously, did that thought actually go through your head, and come out the other side without you realizing that something about that made no sense whatsoever?

Pyroatheist.9031:

This is silly. I will defend pvp in jumping puzzles to my last breath, because it is wvw, and if you go in, expect to be attacked.

That being said, the OP has the most convoluted and incomprehensible set of arguments I’ve ever seen.

“I felt bad about killing this guy that obviously didn’t want to fight me in the JP, so I decided to kill him again and see if that made me feel better”

I mean, seriously, did that thought actually go through your head, and come out the other side without you realizing that something about that made no sense whatsoever?

It just depends on the person IMO. Most of the time I ignore single players in WvW unless they attack me. Dueling isn’t my thing, especially as a guardian, but I mean really where else could they go to get good 1v1 fights? I can’t blame people at all for doing it because its the only way to fit their playstyle.

Minu.5792:

bhagwad.4281:

Slamz.5376:

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

According to everyone here, courtesy is for the weak. In my little experience of WvW it seems like everyone is a ravenous dog looking for kills and loot. Atleast most people in PvP have the kitten decency to say “Gg” afterwards and are respectful. Camping jumping puzzles… honestly.

You’re confused. A “Christmas truce” where everyone decides not to murder each other right now is fine. The movie “Warhorse” had another good example where it’s probably okay to not murder each other right now.

If your enemy is out there looting siege equipment that they are going to use later to kill you and everyone you know then maaaaaybe that’s a dumb time for a truce. (“Haha yes, let us have peace on this day! Say, can you help me carry this cannon? In the spirit of brotherly love, would you mind helping me load it? Okay, now go stand over there…”)

Except that for a lot of people, they don’t care about the siege equipment. I myself have just destroyed them since they take up precious space in my inventory.

You sir, should be killed every time you enter the jumping puzzle as you are an anathma to the WvW world.

I don’t personally kill people in there, although I think they should be killed, as I despise jumping puzzles more than normal PVE content, thus do not find myself in there, but for you, I would sit and kill you over and over until you logged off.

Lol, you’re more than welcome to try. I love it how those camping JPs seem to think they can beat those they fight without batting an eyelash.

Tip: Just because someone doesn’t want to fight doesn’t mean they can’t. Attack me at your own peril.

Everyone is in their right to attack whoever they want in WvW, but nevertheless I am glad that there are so many players here who say that that isn’t their priority.

Thank you all for being cool.

/cower

Conquest.7629:

Maybe through all this id make a suggestion to ANet, put in a surrender emote or a plea to be left alone emote, something which is clear that a player doesnt wish to engage in battle anymore

It’s nice that you had second thoughts. I don’t know that giving them signals to beg for passage is such a grand gesture, though.

To OP,
As a Ranger class, I feel so sad about that ranger you sadistically killed in your testimony but than you realized it was unjust. Compassion, Remorse and Lamentation brought you to confession.
I would like to Thank You! OP for that.
For I myself was a victim who was sadistically killed in Jp by a thief.

Seriously
,
I hope Arenanet does something to prevent players from attacking other server players in jp.

To; ExZee., " about your comment “I feel bad for killing a player who clearly had no intention of fighting me. Twice.”
ROFL this is the biggest troll post ever.

A troll isn’t remorseful, are you the troll"?

Just yesterday I tried to do the Eternal JP, ran past an enemy without attacking, failed a jump, he and his 3 mates came and jumped all over me. Got me a little annoyed as JP are annoying enough already, I only wanna get it done once.

I personally don’t want to fight in JP in W3 and don’t start a fight. If it’s a 1vs1 I’m alright with it though. Just the groups “camping” a JP are kinda lame. And I cba to call a group of players to do a JP .. I got better things to do. So I just left .. I’ll get it done oneday.

A single person camping BL JP when people do the first jump is also kinda lame also, though I’ve never met somebody do that myself. At least it would somehow go against my pride waiting for people with low health after a jump to kill. Dunno why some people are so proud of it.

Still, as long as JP are in W3, killing others in there is totally legit. Why have a JP in W3 if you can’t kill each other there. So it’s either leave things as they are or just remove them (which I actually think is planned).

i remembered trying to get the skill point in the south of bl when i was low level and getting ganked by five bg players waiting on the bridge… was painful and gave up after 1 hour. that was the last point i needed for this bl so was kitten off

Well, I once climbed up the well in EB JP.
Had some Ranger barrage me. Just pulled out my shield and blocked a bit, till I made it to the top to get a clear view. Turns out, the ranger was no longer there, but an ele was waiting up there.
I was like “…”, then I decided, that I am a Warrior and Bullrushing is, what we do, so I bullrushed into the eles face, he pulled off some earthquake combo, I blew balanced stance and stunlocked him with my Mace/Shield, swapped to GS and 100bladed him.
The fight went on for a bit, till I had him down, only for him to down me and mist form away. Tried to get a downed battle going, but he was out of range. So rezz battle.
I rezzed faster and bladetrailed him, to interrupt his heal to give me space to /bow, before he gets up, then went on, leaving him there. A couple jumps later, I saw him being attacked by 2 players from the third server. Simple answer: I am a Warrior and bullrushing is, what we do!
So I jumped off the wall, I was just trying to climb, stunlocking some fat Charr to oblivion(he never knew, what hit him, I just bullrushed from behind, stunlock into 100B, we spiked them, waved at eachother and proceeded with the JP.

Really, people think way too much about stuff in the jumping puzzle. Just act natural.
Like me, for example. I played a Warrior. Bullrushing is what we do. I spot someone, he gets bullrushed, simple as that.
Just do what you feel like and don’t get allworked up over something which happened in a game.
Who is prepared to die is prepared to die, so hammer them down. Who isn’t prepared to die despite being in a pvp zone needs it hammered into them, that other players can bullrush them on a whim.
If I don’t feel like it, I /wave, if I feel like it, I bullrush. Simple as that.
And if I wave and they bullrush, then it just happens. Who cares? It’s 2 silver or 2 badges and the outcome will be decided by button mashing.
If you die, go back to the JP in half an hour and do something useful in the meantime, no biggie.