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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Native Maguuman

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Posted by: Trajan.4953

Trajan.4953

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

CCCP….

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

Nuzt.7894

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

What is wrong with you, don’t give them any ideas, I can see it now " we distinctly remember our players asking for an underwater map for WvW ".

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Posted by: Taxidriver.2043

Taxidriver.2043

no kidding ppl who voted to keep it dont even play that map they go queue EB first.

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

don’t say nobody. we have a group that practically lives on dbl. Just cause some hate it doesn’t mean everyone does. I seriously do not like eb period.

… just call me … Tim :)

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Posted by: Hesacon.8735

Hesacon.8735

No blood lust

Who cares? It’s 30 stats and 1 PPK if you can manage a stomp. Not having it has had no significant impact.

Super hard to get around

It’s no more difficult or time consuming than Alpine. As a roamer, there’s more stuff to attack.

No one goes to them but ppters

I see lots of roamers, including ones roaming specifically to troll for a fight. In T4 this week, people would follow me around and back cap unless I go stop them.

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

How?

every keep can be glitched into

There are methods of reporting bugs.

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Just because you don’t personally enjoy it doesn’t mean others don’t. I’ve had a lot of fun in there recently attacking it in T4 as a roamer, small group, and zerg.

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

I keep hearing about these glitches… I’ve never seen anyone taking advantage of them, whatever they are… and those that do simply suck… In the meantime… LOVE the DBL’s… don’t want to see them go… and have lots of nice small scale fights on them… and now and then get steamrolled by a blob that, for some reason, doesn’t want the 5-10 of us taking their keeps… go figure.

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

look at the numbers fam. low activity levels on desert bl. facts. only ppters who wanna flip empty bl’s like it

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

There was a vote.

People voted for it.

Democracy kittenes.

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

I guess it’s empty for you guys… It’s not empty much of the time for us. I don’t care for PPT… ever period.. I don’t care at all about the scores period. I look for small scale fights, since blobs simply suck. … and of course I take everything I can from the enemy. If it gives ppt to the folks that like ppt then I guess that’s ok.. for me.. .don’t care.

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Posted by: Caliburn.1845

Caliburn.1845

The desert BL is in most matches slightly less played on than the Alpine BLs. But all the BLs are much, much less played than EBG in every match-up consistently.

So really just get rid of everything except EBG.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

I actually am beginning to like it strictly because I can solo roam and not expect to get ganked every 10 seconds. Was having a good time there last night and getting some decent 1v1/x’s. The downside is if you die, you have a mile and a half to run to get back to where ever you were.

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Posted by: Sarrs.4831

Sarrs.4831

If you don’t like it, there are four other maps for you to play on.

Only fair complaint is ‘no bloodlust’ and that hardly warrants deleting the map.

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Posted by: atheria.2837

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No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

No.

The Desert BL is amazing.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean there aren’t people who do.

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Posted by: Tiny Doom.4380

Tiny Doom.4380

“might as well have an underwater map”.

Desert, Alpine, Underwater, EBG. That’d work for me.

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

I am also hapy that is it there. Diversity matters. From Map´s to builds!
I am more on alpine but also roam desert if not my homeland :-)
I would prefer three diffrent maps too. But underwater could be to much effort. I personaly would remove EBG and reuse the map adapted as third BL :-).

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Posted by: Offair.2563

Offair.2563

I dont mind dbl that much since they removed the barricades ( shouldn’t have been a thing in first place) and opened up some space for easier travelling. However i think its better to have 2 weeks of 3x abl and 1 week of 3x dbl so all servers have to deal with the same stuff at the same time.

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Posted by: Inoki.6048

Inoki.6048

I like desert borderlands. For one it’s an interesting landscape offering a lot more diversity than the other BLs. Those I find boring.

Just fix some issues surrounding desert BL but I’d vote to keep it, I like it.

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Posted by: Digikid.7230

Digikid.7230

There are some issues I have with the Desert BL I would like to see addressed as it makes defending it very difficult, for one the cata spot in WK that is unhittable by defending siege, people using leaps to get past the walls/doors into garrision to ninja solo the lord ( I see this almost daily in my current matchup and its a real pain having trapper thieves do this) and trebs from NN shouldn’t be able to hit inner garrison as well.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

Just fix some issues surrounding desert BL but I’d vote to keep it, I like it.

You don’t need to worry about voting to keep it. The poll was already made and Desert BL is here to stay… All haters can queue the other maps.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

If they want to sell the next expansion they need to make a third borderland map, so DBL is there to stay.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

If they want to sell the next expansion they need to make a third borderland map, so DBL is there to stay.

Nah… It will sell regardless if there is anything for WvW or not because the big chunk of the players of this game are the PvE players.
You are overestimating the importance of WvW… If it was really important, it would have received more attention in the last 4 years. The fact that most of the attention it received was only recently just prove that.

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Posted by: Nightingale.8364

Nightingale.8364

BG has yet to be able to fill this map. Either please close down this BL or open up Blackgate server so that BG can finally have a map queue here too on a 24/7 basis. Thank you anet.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

We could say the same of the Alpine BL…. its empty all the time unless a ktrain is happening, same goes on desert BL….

Remove both then?

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

We could say the same of the Alpine BL…. its empty all the time unless a ktrain is happening, same goes on desert BL….

Remove both then?

I’d be down with that if it meant getting rid of dbl. one massive map would be better for this gamemode but i dunno if anet could do that.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

That’s not true for EU.

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Posted by: shagwell.1349

shagwell.1349

There is still a desert borderland? I mean deserted borderland. Nice design, but no use in playing it. Get this map for EotM and get a third alpine for normal wvw.

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Posted by: Soon.5240

Soon.5240

Nah… It will sell regardless if there is anything for WvW or not because the big chunk of the players of this game are the PvE players.
You are overestimating the importance of WvW… If it was really important, it would have received more attention in the last 4 years. The fact that most of the attention it received was only recently just prove that.

And, I’ll add, Anet deliberately neglected WvW to try and funnel people to the 3rd-Party $ponsored sPvP.

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Posted by: santenal.1054

santenal.1054

DBL is a verry fun map if you like scouting,small scale fights and soloing/duoing objectives.. It’s not hard to get around now that the barriers are gone + map changed a little. I dont care much about ppt (unfair borderland map distribution). On ABD you could also glitch into objectives but that was no reason to get rid of the whole map (they just fixed the map).

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

On ABD you could also glitch into objectives but that was no reason to get rid of the whole map (they just fixed the map).

They didn’t fixed much… We still see people glitching unto Garison and Hills now and then…

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Posted by: Ulion.5476

Ulion.5476

Because of DBL A-net will create another wvw map. Hopefully it will be more zerg focused, instead of roaming focused like DBL. Frost themed, where towers can treb keeps, and it should be more compacted to get to the action faster.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

I want a water map. Or at least a stronger presence.

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

That’s not true for EU.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gw2WvW/comments/5dnngw/euna_kill_stats_1111_1811/

It is m8. lowest activity levels in nearly all tiers. eu and na.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

That’s not true for EU.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gw2WvW/comments/5dnngw/euna_kill_stats_1111_1811/

It is m8. lowest activity levels in nearly all tiers. eu and na.

EU players think they’re special snowflakes. Let him dream.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

Because of DBL A-net will create another wvw map. Hopefully it will be more zerg focused, instead of roaming focused like DBL. Frost themed, where towers can treb keeps, and it should be more compacted to get to the action faster.

Don’t you have EBG for that already?

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Posted by: Ulion.5476

Ulion.5476

Yea but EB have been around for awhile. It not EB that I want to replace since it has always been the most popular map. I just want a BL map that would be able to compete with EB in popularity.

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Posted by: Offair.2563

Offair.2563

What i find really clunky is the placement of mortars around DBL. Most are completely useless.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

That’s not true for EU.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gw2WvW/comments/5dnngw/euna_kill_stats_1111_1811/

It is m8. lowest activity levels in nearly all tiers. eu and na.

Because the GvG guilds have taken it over.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Dbl was voted in and not getting removed. There is also a possibility of another unique bl map to be added because it was voted in.

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Dbl was voted in and not getting removed. There is also a possibility of another unique bl map to be added because it was voted in.

I could care less if the dbl was voted in. the same people voted for cannons. Can’t wait till people vote cannons in to stay. Another 10 guilds will quit this game.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Dbl was voted in and not getting removed. There is also a possibility of another unique bl map to be added because it was voted in.

I could care less if the dbl was voted in. the same people voted for cannons. Can’t wait till people vote cannons in to stay. Another 10 guilds will quit this game.

Real WvW died for me when the GvG guilds left and my friends all got scattered on different servers. People votes have been influenced by one main question: What will make Anet work the most?

We’ve pretty much all been disappointing by the small size of the “WvW Overhaul”, we all have the impression that their WvW team is minuscule. What most people want is for Anet to just do something that is substantial without having to wait years for it.

It seems like it takes them months just to do the smallest of change, as if their WvW team consist of only 1 developer working part-time.

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Posted by: Woodmen.7216

Woodmen.7216

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Dbl was voted in and not getting removed. There is also a possibility of another unique bl map to be added because it was voted in.

I could care less if the dbl was voted in. the same people voted for cannons. Can’t wait till people vote cannons in to stay. Another 10 guilds will quit this game.

Is there even 10 guilds left? I’m wondering if there were ever actual number of votes/voters for the polls compared to how many actually play wvw regularly. A pve guild could have gone in for a mission for favor and got the poll because they ranked up and voted for dbl or cannons because they sounded cool but then they never play wvw again.

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Dbl was voted in and not getting removed. There is also a possibility of another unique bl map to be added because it was voted in.

I could care less if the dbl was voted in. the same people voted for cannons. Can’t wait till people vote cannons in to stay. Another 10 guilds will quit this game.

Is there even 10 guilds left? I’m wondering if there were ever actual number of votes/voters for the polls compared to how many actually play wvw regularly. A pve guild could have gone in for a mission for favor and got the poll because they ranked up and voted for dbl or cannons because they sounded cool but then they never play wvw again.

I really liked the idea of people with a certain rank only having the ability to vote. Then again…..EOTM kinda ruined ranking in the past years as many pvers loved the old karma train/leveling perk of zerging there.

I honestly don’t know what route anet goes, seems every move is questionable and has negative outcomes, not all but a big majority of them do.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Dbl was voted in and not getting removed. There is also a possibility of another unique bl map to be added because it was voted in.

I could care less if the dbl was voted in. the same people voted for cannons. Can’t wait till people vote cannons in to stay. Another 10 guilds will quit this game.

Too late bud, time to move on…

The poll has ended! After removing all votes for “Don’t Count My Vote” the final results are:

78.5% Simultaneous Borderlands
21.5% Rotating Borderlands quarterly

This means that the team will add the Desert Borderlands back into play as one of the Borderlands maps and will keep the other two maps as the Alpine Borderlands. Thank you to everyone who voted!

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

That’s not true for EU.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gw2WvW/comments/5dnngw/euna_kill_stats_1111_1811/

It is m8. lowest activity levels in nearly all tiers. eu and na.

Because the GvG guilds have taken it over.

GVG guilds go there because no one will bother them on that map. literally empty. They’re smart.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

That’s not true for EU.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gw2WvW/comments/5dnngw/euna_kill_stats_1111_1811/

It is m8. lowest activity levels in nearly all tiers. eu and na.

Because the GvG guilds have taken it over.

GVG guilds go there because no one will bother them on that map. literally empty. They’re smart.

So it’s being used and is popular. You have three other maps if it doesn’t suit.

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Posted by: SleepingDragon.1596

SleepingDragon.1596

Desert BL is no different than Obsidian Sanctum/Edge of the Mists. Can we treat it the same? It does have a few people on it just like Obsidian Sanctum. It definitely not as popular as Edge of the Mists. There’s always going to be some people who likes it, just like how they like doing JP at Obsidian or k-training at Edge of the Mists. Let it stay in WvW but move them to leisure time maps like Obsidian Sanctum or Edge of the Mists.

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

Nuzt.7894

Desert BL is no different than Obsidian Sanctum/Edge of the Mists. Can we treat it the same? It does have a few people on it just like Obsidian Sanctum. It definitely not as popular as Edge of the Mists. There’s always going to be some people who likes it, just like how they like doing JP at Obsidian or k-training at Edge of the Mists. Let it stay in WvW but move them to leisure time maps like Obsidian Sanctum or Edge of the Mists.

False nobody likes it, even if they say they do they are just uniformed and really do not like it, yes I speak for everyone in the world.

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Posted by: GreyWraith.8394

GreyWraith.8394

Mag doesn’t like this cuz,

No blood lust

Super hard to get around

No one goes to them but ppters

The server that has the red BL is put at a disadvantage

every keep can be glitched into

Do us all a favor and get rid of them. thx

Fixed that for ya.

the activity levels are super low on red bl’s in all tiers from eu to NA. might as well have an underwater map.

I second jamesdolla’s request for an underwater map :P

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