Guild Wars 2

Who cares, really…WvW is unplayable this week, anyway.

Random.4691:

TJgalon.5012:

But if they end it that soon, what about the people who can’t play on the weekend. it only for a week, i am not sure it wont kill yea for that long.

We would be doing them a favor.

Well Sunday is my day off, so I am excited to really getting down to playing it then, and I am sure other people have day off during the week. I remember people getting upset over other things that only last a day, like lion arch deals, or other things, so at least for a week, most people get thier chance.

We got bored of this golem events within an hour. Golems have been a pain for WvW since release, players have complained about them numerous times.

So when anet “listen” and do the completely opposite and make a whole week dedicated to a piece of siege most of us hate and would rather see removed, is as you said just taking the kitten.

Mokk.2397:

Ran into a guild in Ehmry Bay where every player was exploiting this bug. It was quite obvious that they knew what they were doing .They were trampling everyone in their path and couldn’t be defeated . Now according to the rules this sort of behavior (" intentional exploitation of a bug for personal gain") is unacceptable .What is Anet planning on doing about this.

yup my gulid ran into the same problem. We were wondering why are these Ehmry bay players practically one shotting us. My guild only found out about the bug an hour ago. We all gave up an hour after reset. The bug is down right disgusting. I demand the event be either stopped or fixed. Sure have the event but fix this broken bug please. its gross also to players defending the bug don’t think your pro. Your a griefer who can only win by exploit.

Also getting the bug is not hard. Its not easy to get by accident so I demand banning of players using it. What happened to fair play?

My week long vacation from WvW cut short ?

I mean if it happens sure, i’d love to see them admit they only caused more issues with this than they solved and end it early. But its not likely.

Countless threads about how WvW needs a team to look at it and how golems break the balance —-→Makes a whole week based around OP golems.

GG

WP

How about just doing it, and playing it differently for the week? Try some new stragity, or just mix it up a little?

Luvpie.8350:

Fix the kitten WvW achievements before expansion hits so they can be achieved within a person’s lifetime…

They can be…..

If you dont mind wasting 30 years of your life.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Everyone realizes this, right? With the high demand for golems and their now incredibly high prices… The golem stocks are going to deplete, the prices will either rise or stay the same and golems will very likely become much less common when the event finishes because people won’t want to spend that kind of money.

Since so many people hate golems and want them nerfed, etc… This event will do almost exactly that by nerfing their usage post-event.

Have fun with this week of chaos. It’s a video game remember and it’s here for entertainment not grief. Personally I’m having a blast and haven’t had this much fun in WvW in ages. Pull your heads out of your butts and smile once in a while…

Congrats on name calling very constructive OP. But to actually be constructive here the Golems are not the issue right now its the buff exploit thats really breaking wvw right now. Even without being in a golem you can have the damge buff. Thats a 100% damage to players. Ill let that sink in, 100% damage buff!

eithinan.9841:

Sogradde.8016:

Who cares? It’s not like you gain anything from winning a week anyway, lol.

a lot of players gain enjoyment from WvW which is currently being prevented by this event

Some will enjoy, some will hate.

You cannot please everyone, no matter what you will do.

Mind boggling…who is running things over there?

TJgalon.5012:

How about just doing it, and playing it differently for the week? Try some new stragity, or just mix it up a little?

How about, No ?

It was a terrible addition for a terrible event, that only created more problems for WvW.

You know what, why don’t they do to PvE what they just did to WvW. Make it so all the world bosses cannot be completed but have 100% chance to drop precursors.

It takes courage to admit when you kittened up. Sadly we are not used to that with our greedy overlords. But hey there is always room to be surprised.

If there’s an update this week (in particular Tuesday), you’re going lose your golem. That’s what, 4 gold down the drain?

The saving grace is that we likely only have golem week because Anet needs some filler “content” so perhaps there won’t be any updates.

Then again, I hear of some new(?) exploit that makes you super powerful so if there’s an update to fix that: poof goes your golem.

On the other hand, this exploit only affects WvW and EotM, so perhaps there’s no rush of fix it.

Yeah right they can’t even ban hackers when given video proof so they’re gonna start banning regular ppl^^

Wait they could actually do it since it’s a stupid idea….

Owh, just reported someone via the report exploit email, I had thought that it was still new because there was no patch yet. If they haven’t taken action even after 4 hours… well…

As in they don’t care about WvW and most likely don’t even have a team of people dedicated to it.
(as a reminder Golem week was an idea from one of the spvp guys)

People are already sick of the event and are just going to log out for the week pretty soon. Not as many golems are going to be used up as Anet thought.

See, I think your taking this a bit serious. It just a game, and it just a one week event, not any of this it sticking. That said, what did they do to wvw that makes it un beatable. Seem to me, your still able to take the building and even defend them too, so not sure. Maybe I just on the right server, but can’t golems defend just as easily as they can take too?

DiscoJacen.1590:

It takes courage to admit when you kittened up. Sadly we are not used to that with our greedy overlords. But hey there is always room to be surprised.

Don’t they do that alot., I remember reading like a couple or so week ago that a few of the trait when they switch to a new system that it mess up. they even said and null them till they could fix them, and that made people mad too, it like anet can’t win, lol.

You CAN’T use up the golems kitten how many times do we have to say it. There is an unlimited supply thanks to badge vendors. And can’t you realise that the BlackLion is a fake SIMULATED economy and that prices have nothing to do with supply and demand? Prices will augment with demand, yes. But BL can’t run out of golems since Anet has the final say on the stocks. At all

Do you think there are that many SAB skins on the BL because that many ppl sell them? All the black lion ticket weapon skins?
Nope it’s artificial. There will be no shortage of anything unless Anet wants it

TJgalon.5012:

See, I think your taking this a bit serious. It just a game, and it just a one week event, not any of this it sticking. That said, what did they do to wvw that makes it un beatable. Seem to me, your still able to take the building and even defend them too, so not sure. Maybe I just on the right server, but can’t golems defend just as easily as they can take too?

DiscoJacen.1590:

It takes courage to admit when you kittened up. Sadly we are not used to that with our greedy overlords. But hey there is always room to be surprised.

Don’t they do that alot., I remember reading like a week ago that a few of the trait when they switch to a new system that it mess up. they even said and null them till they could fix them, and that made people mad too, it like anet can’t win, lol.

It’s clear you’re just a casual player and this appeals to you. But for those of us that go in there week in and week out and play the mode this is the worst possible change. That was the point.

Glad you missed it, but the vast majority of these forums is filled with hatred because we do not like golems, we do not like the idea of nothing but golem zergs and we actually like using our characters for combat purposes.

DiscoJacen.1590:

You CAN’T use up the golems kitten how many times do we have to say it. There is an unlimited supply thanks to badge vendors. And can’t you realise that the BlackLion is a fake SIMULATED economy and that prices have nothing to do with supply and demand? Prices will augment with demand, yes. But BL can’t run out of golems. At all

Sure you can’t run out, but there was a golem duping exploit a while back and people suspect the reason for this “event” was to remove those excess prints from that exploit.

Personally, I don’t think they care about WvW enough to bother with doing anything at all about those duped prints. This was probably just an extremely poorly thought out idea by people who don’t even WvW.

The problem with golem week is that aside from all the bugs and exploits that should have been TESTED before. It aggravates problems that were already present and highlighted by people on the forums.
Lack of population, unbalanced siege weaponry, hackers in lower tiers, queues on higher, etc.

So we are very angry yes. But golem week is more the trigger than the sole reason for it.

TJgalon.5012:

Don’t they do that alot., I remember reading like a couple or so week ago that a few of the trait when they switch to a new system that it mess up. they even said and null them till they could fix them, and that made people mad too, it like anet can’t win, lol.

Yeah and it took 5 seconds for ANY engineer to realize that grenade barrage (one of the traits/skill that was broken) was completely bonkers. You could one-shot any npc aside from lords.
WHICH means that they didn’t even TEST the thing. And therefore we are kittened because WE are the ones that have to suffer for a flawed development process.

Do you see the difference? They can screw up, ofc it happens. But they can’t repeatedly screw up and ignore players giving feedback. THAT is intolerable.

The guy who had the idea is on the spvp team. that should tell you : )

dupers would sell them on the TP xD i doubt thats the sense of the event.. its just some brain fart of some manager i guess.

I’m going to go with the conspiracy theory aswell.. my server is in T5, and although we lost many guilds and players it still has a “full” server status… WvW is dead most of the time how could we be full? I think theyre trying to kill off servers and we’ll soon be playing for the “Red” “Blue” and “Green” team, like in eotm.

TexZero.7910:

TJgalon.5012:

See, I think your taking this a bit serious. It just a game, and it just a one week event, not any of this it sticking. That said, what did they do to wvw that makes it un beatable. Seem to me, your still able to take the building and even defend them too, so not sure. Maybe I just on the right server, but can’t golems defend just as easily as they can take too?

DiscoJacen.1590:

It takes courage to admit when you kittened up. Sadly we are not used to that with our greedy overlords. But hey there is always room to be surprised.

Don’t they do that alot., I remember reading like a week ago that a few of the trait when they switch to a new system that it mess up. they even said and null them till they could fix them, and that made people mad too, it like anet can’t win, lol.

It’s clear you’re just a casual player and this appeals to you. But for those of us that go in there week in and week out and play the mode this is the worst possible change. That was the point.

Glad you missed it, but the vast majority of these forums is filled with hatred because we do not like golems, we do not like the idea of nothing but golem zergs and we actually like using our characters for combat purposes.

so how many hour a week do i need to spend in wvw to be listen to? I mean, I have to work, and eat and sleep, I play pvp sometimes and PvE with my gameing partner. We do wvw sometimes, daily as one reason, but also fun defending a tower in enemy area too. We join the comanders on their raids, and tongiht we battle the golems and win some, lost a lot, but it was still fun. Sunday when it is my day off I will be in WvW a lot to enjoy this event. Shake up like this is fun, like holiday events that gw1 got a lot.

DiscoJacen.1590:

TJgalon.5012:

Don’t they do that alot., I remember reading like a couple or so week ago that a few of the trait when they switch to a new system that it mess up. they even said and null them till they could fix them, and that made people mad too, it like anet can’t win, lol.

Yeah and it took 5 seconds for ANY engineer to realize that grenade barrage (one of the traits/skill that was broken) was completely bonkers. You could one-shot any npc aside from lords.
WHICH means that they didn’t even TEST the thing. And therefore we are kittened because WE are the ones that have to suffer for a flawed development process.

Do you see the difference? They can screw up, ofc it happens. But they can’t repeatedly screw up and ignore players giving feedback. THAT is intolerable.

I see them accepting and changing all the time, but players do not like change as well. I come from playing games for a long time, and new things player dislike, old things people hate, and in the middle, seems the company can never win really. Me, i tend to just roll with it, adapt, and better my self. I wont let tiny things like a week long event ruin my fun, or a trait disable so they can fix it, without it being exploited to much. A game is a game, it suposed to just be played in fun, if I took it serious, then maybe I need to find a new game, lol.

Jay.1085:

Zev.3407:

I’m having a blast during this event, the amount of golems is awesome and hilarious. I think you guys just need to remember this is a game and try to have some goofy fun every once in awhile.

You wouldnt say that when players are cheating with the golem bug right now. you gain the damage buff to players without being in a golem. I ran into a guardian with the buff who one shotted me with his auto attack. But your right a game is supposed to be fun but getting owned repeatedly by this cheat is not fun. Its down right griefing new players like me. Im sad I even taught wvw could be fun. Yup I am a noob only rank 50 but even with my guild mates the rewards and the current event makes me meh about wvw.

Ill go back to PVE and make a lot more gold with better rewards. With some fun events and such.

GG Anet.

Nobody is forcing you to play you know, if you don’t like it, take a break for a week, this event is fun imo, even with some weirdness going on. If anything this is the perfect time to get some classes you haven’t lvled to 80 cruising around in a golem, and it only lasts a week, so what’s the harm. If you really are so stuck up that you can’t get over it just pretend the servers are down for a week for all that i care.

I agree, a little shake up wont hurt, it was kinda fun when I played a little tonight, it had active people more so then normal, so I guess people are enjoying it, at least for the servers i play on it seem.

Oh lord, you’re just being dense for the sake of it now.

It’s not about change. It’s about how bad an idea and how badly its implementation has gone.

We’d welcome changes if they actually ever addressed the core issues plaguing WvW. This does not do that instead it is like going to the doctor to get a splint for a broken arm and having the doctor perform a lobotomy instead.

Jay.1085:

Mokk.2397:

Ran into a guild in Ehmry Bay where every player was exploiting this bug. It was quite obvious that they knew what they were doing .They were trampling everyone in their path and couldn’t be defeated . Now according to the rules this sort of behavior (" intentional exploitation of a bug for personal gain") is unacceptable .What is Anet planning on doing about this.

yup my gulid ran into the same problem. We were wondering why are these Ehmry bay players practically one shotting us. My guild only found out about the bug an hour ago. We all gave up an hour after reset. The bug is down right disgusting. I demand the event be either stopped or fixed. Sure have the event but fix this broken bug please. its gross also to players defending the bug don’t think your pro. Your a griefer who can only win by exploit.

Also getting the bug is not hard. Its not easy to get by accident so I demand banning of players using it. What happened to fair play?

Mokk actually belongs to a guild ON ehmrybay, wrong wording on his part. the guild he is talking about belongs to nsp

Orochimaru.4730:

Dawdler.8521:

“Does the WvW team has any objections?”.

It’s so cute you think there is a WvW team.

That’s why there were no objections.

You seem to misunderstand the difference between:
-Being mad because of changes
And
-Being mad because of bugs that should have been avoided

Well at this point it’s more about the existence of the bug than the people using it^^

They won’t. There is no outrage on Reddit or some article on something like Ten Ton Hammer and those are basically the only things they react to asap. We’re stuck with it for a week.

i agree that it needs to be stoped or fixed thoguh.

cheshader.5081:

They won’t. There is no outrage on Reddit or some article on something like Ten Ton Hammer and those are basically the only things they react asap. We’re stuck with it for a week.

So sad yet so true…

I am trying to follow the reasons of the hate, but I not seen any problem personally so I am afraid I really not understanding the issues. Could you point me to the topic where these problem are being discussed?

What bothers me the most right now, is the fact that anet don’t even care to respond to this topic in any other way than “Bring up you kittening ideas” in another thread regarding golem rush…

Do you guys think Yoshi-P needs a part time job? xD No seriously I would be glad about any person who actually cares about wvw (and really plays it all day) in the wvw dev team. Oh wait! First they have to form a wvw dev team…

Lol do you think anyone care? Golems for thousands of gold where destroyed in hours yesterday. People will use the exploit and throw it away, they have 500+ golems in their inventory… I know people that have 1000 Omega Golems kitten .

Looks like 1 week of not playing GW2 for me, as I only play WvW.
I thought being forced to run around with my arms outstretched, making airplane sounds, and looking at a dirty brown screen was the worse. Anet has topped it.
If you’re going to run something this lame for a whole week, Anet, at least freeze the glicko scoring?
Some are saying :it’s just a week of silly fun, and has no bearing on anything", wrong! The overall standings are affected… those saying this are obvious casuals…
A week-end of something like this makes more sense. Holding it for an entire week and having it affect glicko is ridiculous.
I’ll see all my WvW friends and foes in a week. Ciao

TJgalon.5012:

I am trying to follow the reasons of the hate, but I not seen any problem personally so I am afraid I really not understanding the issues. Could you point me to the topic where these problem are being discussed?

Do you even play WvW? To counter golems you need golems. No, ACs and ballistas do not work. Players on foot against Omegas are like WW1 infantry against WW2 tanks. Sure, they could overwhelm it with numbers. I dare you to call it “counter”.
No guild raids (except in golems), no skilled groups having some advantage due to proper composition, among other things, since there is only one class in WvW this week – Golem.

Defending? Lol, by the time your commander receives scout’s reports any gates are torn down by Golems. And it does not even matter if your zerg is full of Golems too (ofc it is) since you most likely won’t get there in time to prevent capping. Which leads to karma training, glorified eotm style running in circles capping stuff with occasional zerg clashes.

And when zergs do clash? Guess who gonna win? Right, those who have more ppl, since they have more golems, can build more golems when they are destroyed, and there is no point in using focus groups, proper party composition, any other tools that give smaller groups any chance against bigger ones. Oh, wait, its totally eotm again.

And I dare you to call all this stuff just theorycrafting that is not actually happening right now or just happens from time to time and does not have any significant impact on WvW.

tl;dr This event heavily favors servers that outnumber their opponents, and bigger zergs. And I expect even skilled WvWers from these servers getting tired soon from one-sided fights, so it will be herds of people with blobber mentality running in circles in WvW this week, nothing else.

Is that what killed me? I couldn’t figure out why I dropped to almost 0 hp within a second, when there was no siege and I wasn’t standing in any aoe. I’m with those calling for this event to be cut short and end it Saturday.

TJgalon.5012:

I am trying to follow the reasons of the hate, but I not seen any problem personally so I am afraid I really not understanding the issues. Could you point me to the topic where these problem are being discussed?

You see, a while back they introduce Eotm for people who waiting for queue, and long story short, it turned into a karma/wxp/exp train now, everyone turn their brain off and go in circle to take stuff. Now “normal” WvW is about strategies, unless your zerg is x3 times bigger, there is always a way to defend a tower/keep. And this is what make WvW fun just the way it is for the last 3 years. Defenders try to defend, and attackers try to take it. It is not that easy for both sides to achieve what they want, and there are so many ways to achieve what they want. And now this event. Even before this event we WvWers trying to point out so many times that Golems are a bit strong, and if a zerg has the funds and the time for about 10 20 golems, its still able to fight back. But free cost golem, 100% power and 100% movement speed? What is the point of WvW here anymore? It just turn into a karma train. You cant defend, and you just need to stand still, spam 1 and everything is done. Canon? AC? Please, gates down in seconds.
And to be honest here, Im not saying that you have no experience in WvW to understand this, but it comes to the veteran WvW players who ask nothing but fix bugs and balance seiges. Fun? How about an event that actually fun but keep the fundamentals of WvW, what makes WvW WvW. If we want stuff like golem rush, we will go to Eotm, thanks.

I never did finish Diablo 3. Now I have a whole week for it. Thanks Anet.

I think the decision to implement this event was incompetent, and anyone who regularly WvWs (and isn’t blinded by novelty for the sake of novelty) would have been able to explain this to you (and DID explain this). That WvW has been stale for so long doesn’t mean that any event is a good event, and just because this event is only a week long doesn’t mean that players should passively accept incredibly poor content. This event effectively negates the need for any sort of forethought, planning, or strategy in WvW – you don’t need to tap someone’s keep, employ misdirection, or even worry about veils and flanking. You suit up in as many golems as possible and steamroll everything – it’s a karma train on steroids.

Some people like the event; that’s fine. Sometimes I enjoy mindlessly ktraining in EotM, too. I just don’t want to do it all the time, and I really dislike it in regular/real WvW. If this is the kind of content ANet has planned for WvW then it’s clear to me that ANet isn’t capable of creating the kind of content I enjoy, and I guess I should move on.

xev.9476:

I think the decision to implement this event was incompetent, and anyone who regularly WvWs (and isn’t blinded by novelty for the sake of novelty) would have been able to explain this to you (and DID explain this). That WvW has been stale for so long doesn’t mean that any event is a good event, and just because this event is only a week long doesn’t mean that players should passively accept incredibly poor content. This event effectively negates the need for any sort of forethought, planning, or strategy in WvW – you don’t need to tap someone’s keep, employ misdirection, or even worry about veils and flanking. You suit up in as many golems as possible and steamroll everything – it’s a karma train on steroids.

Some people like the event; that’s fine. Sometimes I enjoy mindlessly ktraining in EotM, too. I just don’t want to do it all the time, and I really dislike it in regular/real WvW. If this is the kind of content ANet has planned for WvW then it’s clear to me that ANet isn’t capable of creating the kind of content I enjoy, and I guess I should move on.

Couldn’t agree more.
If this is what they think WvW needs, what’s the new map going to be like?
I’ve given up all hope now, sad day

the most boring event I’ve ever seen .

HitmanHaydon.1053:

If this is what they think WvW needs, what’s the new map going to be like?

The thought that scares me the most. After all, this week will end, but it is possible that this approach will stay.