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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

So basically I’m bored with WvW, the only part of GW2 I actually enjoy…

It’s either I join a zerg and PvD my way around the map, occasionally wiping or getting wiped depending on who has that extra 20 players in the zerg or I roam around chasing people who refuse to fight for over an hour before boredom sets in knowing the best fight was a 1v6 while you were capping your 100th sentry looking for someone… (OCX player)

I want to know, what have people done to bring excitement back to the game for themselves?

Have you got a game you play internally while in WvW? (Eg: 2 people hold the bridge of justice between red keep and mendons)
Or do you roll a trap ranger and pretend to be afk for that greedy thief eyeing you off?

Gimmie some Idea’s please

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

I roam in T2 and try new builds pretty frequently. I also mix up my WvW roles. Last month I spent a considerable amount of time building siege, refreshing, defending and general scouting. However mostly I roam with friend(s).

Sarcasm For Hire [SFH]
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Posted by: Pretty Pixie.8603

Pretty Pixie.8603

WAT. Straegen got Yakkified.

I kiiiiid.

Relentless Inquisition [PAIN] – FA

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Posted by: Reverence.6915

Reverence.6915

What tier are you in?

T1 OCX is pretty blobby with very few roamers, but I generally get my guild and myself (3-5 people) to hit whatever the kitten is on the map that isn’t ours. This includes fully upgraded keeps. Just for lulz.

EBG always has fights but the zergs there are… meh

The final option is to do some commanding yourself. Commanding really opens up the game as it requires you to understand the mechanics of the different classes well enough to let you utilise them to their potential. Mind you, pugmanding can be pretty frustrating, but that can be fun in its own right. Like herding unruly cats.

Expac sucks for WvW players. Asura master race
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Posted by: phantomlord.3417

phantomlord.3417

Maybe if everyone didnt have the blob mentality this game would be more enjoyable..

Generalrob

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Posted by: Menzies The Heretic.3415

Menzies The Heretic.3415

Soon - with the removal of white crosses - multiple commanders will be active to make sure all entrances are sealed.

Communication will be crucial. And towers will drop like flies.

See if you like it, or not. Because it will stay for at least as long as every update has stayed.

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* YouTube – Fun, guides and gameplay

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Soon – with the removal of white crosses – multiple commanders will be active to make sure all entrances are sealed.

Communication will be crucial. And towers will drop like flies.

See if you like it, or not. Because it will stay for at least as long as every update has stayed.

I cant imagine those servers that have like 10 players across all maps during certain time :| it will be awfull for smaller coverage servers, but for quite some peculiar reason i hate that change with love, it kills the AB cap n’leave trains and that might be a good thing.

server merge INC!!

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

Switch up professions and builds. I recently went roaming on a no stealth pistol/pistol, short bow thief for a laugh. I actually racked up a bunch of kills and had no problem escaping large groups.

Other times I will grab a few friends, siege up sw tower and start trebbing bay. If small groups come to defend we jump out and kill them. If zergs come to defend we hold them off with siege and spend the next few hours screwing with them.

Also known as Puck when my account isn’t suspended
LGN

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Posted by: Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054

How to make WvW exciting again?

Fix and update it.

The WvW Forum Poster Formerly Known As Omaris Mortuus Est

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Posted by: nekretaal.6485

nekretaal.6485

Bring Back matchup threads!

#24 leaderboard rank North America.

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

So basically I’m bored with WvW, the only part of GW2 I actually enjoy…

It’s either I join a zerg and PvD my way around the map, occasionally wiping or getting wiped depending on who has that extra 20 players in the zerg or I roam around chasing people who refuse to fight for over an hour before boredom sets in knowing the best fight was a 1v6 while you were capping your 100th sentry looking for someone… (OCX player)

I want to know, what have people done to bring excitement back to the game for themselves?

Have you got a game you play internally while in WvW? (Eg: 2 people hold the bridge of justice between red keep and mendons)
Or do you roll a trap ranger and pretend to be afk for that greedy thief eyeing you off?

Gimmie some Idea’s please

Rant ahead,

Personally, I try to play WvW not another game that only make WvW even less viable. A lot of the people who whine about how bad WvW has become are in large part great contributor to the problem.

You find the game boring because the numbers and coverage are way too unfair (and they are)? Don’t make it worst by ignoring the game and try to use the logical options available first. Use sieges to offset numbers instead of promoting a rather imbecile shame mentality regarding sieges.

Also, at least try to forge alliances with the other lesser server to minimize the number and coverage problem. Yes, A-net could help the formation of alliances by introducing a mechanic that would protect the participants. However, nothing prevent any of us to try and form alliances rather than just behave like KFC seagull looking for any fries that the big player drop.

Finally, stop stacking servers if you are of those who complain about numbers and coverage. All I read and hear are people whining about how broken the game is but somehow decide to pay to make things even worse, and then complain about that self-fulfilling prophecy. This is just beyond dumb and lame.

Two days ago I jumped on to help a team mate who was in a fight in front of Languor, our last tower on EBG (SoR), with someone from ET.

As I join the fight to support my team mate, I immediately get assaulted by the bulk of the laughing ET forces who was so far simply trebbing our only tower from our fully upgraded keep (that server has received MASSIVE transfers after the tournament it is just ridiculous now)…

It was already bad that ET was just so overblobbed and taking pleasure in having zero competition whatsoever, but when my “team mate” yelled at me that it was a duel, I snapped!

Not only are we desperately overwhelmed but we have a complete kitten that not only doesn’t help us, but find it acceptable to whine about people crashing their duel under a massive trebbing session. We are far from the little duels that happens in the margin of the maps and where the participants removed themselves from PPT. Here, Languor was under assault from the guys who wanted us to “respect” the ethic of duels while never giving a kitten about respecting the players who still wanted to fight the PPT game.

So, from a guy who love duels and roaming, if you duel in the context of advancing the score, welcome. Otherwise, if you don’t give a kitten about PPT, please, just get lost and stop asking for “respect” when you give none whatsoever in the first place. Some of us still try to play that game thank you… Go ruin EoTM instead since it is already ruined.

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Posted by: PetricaKerempuh.7958

PetricaKerempuh.7958

body blocking

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sMihaly.1492

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Posted by: Heizero.9183

Heizero.9183

So basically I’m bored with WvW, the only part of GW2 I actually enjoy…

It’s either I join a zerg and PvD my way around the map, occasionally wiping or getting wiped depending on who has that extra 20 players in the zerg or I roam around chasing people who refuse to fight for over an hour before boredom sets in knowing the best fight was a 1v6 while you were capping your 100th sentry looking for someone… (OCX player)

I want to know, what have people done to bring excitement back to the game for themselves?

Have you got a game you play internally while in WvW? (Eg: 2 people hold the bridge of justice between red keep and mendons)
Or do you roll a trap ranger and pretend to be afk for that greedy thief eyeing you off?

Gimmie some Idea’s please

You hop over to FA and go deep with me and BLNT like the good ole GoM days

Commander Unyielding Shadow – Human Thief
Champion Shadow
Better Luck Next Time [BLNT]-Sea of Sorrows

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Posted by: Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Sirbeaumerdier.3740

Yeah, a troll opportunity waiting to happen.

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Posted by: Berk.8561

Berk.8561

As I join the fight to support my team mate, I immediately get assaulted by the bulk of the laughing ET forces who was so far simply trebbing our only tower from our fully upgraded keep (that server has received MASSIVE transfers after the tournament it is just ridiculous now)…

It was already bad that ET was just so overblobbed and taking pleasure in having zero competition whatsoever, but when my “team mate” yelled at me that it was a duel, I snapped!

A lot of people on ET really aren’t all that happy that we have little competition and they are looking to move up in ranking, which is why they are taking and holding so many points. ET did gain people. SoR lost people. We’re moving up and you are moving down, so hopefully you won’t have to deal with this from ET too much longer. SoR should be able to have more fun against AR and Kain, even if you lose a few more guilds.

Kerzic [CoI] – Ranger – Eredon Terrace

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Posted by: Scryeless.1924

Scryeless.1924

It depends on what server you are on. That makes a world of difference. T2 has a lot of good small fights. SoS, FA, and YB all have really good fighters and its been a great deal of fun these past few weeks.

Also, it depends on what kind of class you are rolling. Players have their preferences on who they like to fight. I, for example, ignore thieves and mesmers when I can because a lot of them just stealth infinitely and it gets old. It isn’t fun so why bother. Every other class, for the most part, can be very fun to fight.

As Reverence said above, Commanding opens you up to a whole new perspective of game play. Commanding is like playing a different game, entirely.

Most importantly, find, make and play with friends.

SoS – Ele – Burn Me, Freeze Me, Blind Me, Pound Me — Wait…What?
Warrior – The New Burninator! Strongbad would be so proud!
Guardian – Burn for you, heal for me, block for me and uh…sorry Im all out of gifts.

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Posted by: Ostricheggs.3742

Ostricheggs.3742

I’d recommend stealing a page from Warhammers book and give WvW instanced PvP with 15-30 players on each team. You could also tie it to the World Score like warhammer did; the points would be distributed every tick based on the number of games and the servers win/loss ratio. The larger number of games, the larger the impact.

I could see it as instanced PvP with WvW mechanics, WvW sized maps and strategies with somthing like 15-30 players on each side (depending on the map).

I think this would be one of the easiest things to implement, and a great additional system. It satisfied the competitive players in warhammer online, and only god knows that the GvGers haven’t been thrown a stick outside of that arena in obsidian.

To make it even easier, you could give rewards similar to the PvP reward tracks (think, WvW reward tracks). The reward tracks really did help PvP a lot, and I honestly feel like WvW players are getting screwed with their current reward system.

Furthermore, it would actually give folks a decent fight that has WvW mechanics in it. WvW at large is just waiting 2 hours for one decent fight. The game mode itself has the mechanics and fun in it, but the main problem I find in WvW is that it takes so kitten long to find a satisfying fight…

Just my idea, I doubt it’d ever be listened to and this post will be torn to pieces in a ravenous storm of hate for esports.

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Posted by: Buy Some Apples.6390

Buy Some Apples.6390

Buy it, use it, break it, fix it,
Trash it, change it, mail – upgrade it,
Charge it, point it, zoom it, press it,
Snap it, work it, quick – erase it,
Write it, cut it, paste it, save it,
Load it, check it, quick – rewrite it,
Plug it, play it, burn it, rip it,
Drag and drop it, zip – unzip it,
Lock it, fill it, call it, find it,
View it, code it, jam – unlock it,
Surf it, scroll it, pause it, click it,
Cross it, crack it, switch – update it,
Name it, rate it, tune it, print it,
Scan it, send it, fax – rename it,
Touch it, bring it, pay it, watch it,
Turn it, leave it, start – format it.

Complained about WvW before it became cool.
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Posted by: Solstace.2514

Solstace.2514

If you really enjoy fighting other players, spvp may be better. The fights in that are more balanced as no one has the advantage in gear or upgrades. But I dont get mad at ppl for running in wvw because unless you are holding or attacking an objective, there really is no point to it.

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Posted by: cpchow.7416

cpchow.7416

1.Drop legendary from killing player directly with 0.000000000000001% drop rate
2.Players in lower tier server guest to higher server and fight, but home server player have the prior to go in the wvw map

With these two little changes WvW will be fun again

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Posted by: Hamster.4861

Hamster.4861

These are the ideas I’ve come up with to help WvW along.

1: Increase player kill reward
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Make-player-kill-loot-better/first#post4152889

2: WvW Weekly achievements (like dailies)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Suggestion-WvW-Weeklies-For-more-participation

3: Borderland map rotation which helps balance matchups
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Proposal-PvP-Map-Rotation-for-Borderlands

I need to make a 4th one that covers how to insert WvW into the development of the Living Story, because that is how Anet phases in improvements.

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Posted by: Ostricheggs.3742

Ostricheggs.3742

If you really enjoy fighting other players, spvp may be better. The fights in that are more balanced as no one has the advantage in gear or upgrades. But I dont get mad at ppl for running in wvw because unless you are holding or attacking an objective, there really is no point to it.

But I thought WvW was about fighting over stuff for your “world”. My mistake.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

sephiroth.4217

So basically I’m bored with WvW, the only part of GW2 I actually enjoy…

It’s either I join a zerg and PvD my way around the map, occasionally wiping or getting wiped depending on who has that extra 20 players in the zerg or I roam around chasing people who refuse to fight for over an hour before boredom sets in knowing the best fight was a 1v6 while you were capping your 100th sentry looking for someone… (OCX player)

I want to know, what have people done to bring excitement back to the game for themselves?

Have you got a game you play internally while in WvW? (Eg: 2 people hold the bridge of justice between red keep and mendons)
Or do you roll a trap ranger and pretend to be afk for that greedy thief eyeing you off?

Gimmie some Idea’s please

You hop over to FA and go deep with me and BLNT like the good ole GoM days

:O
FA is fun, have been on that server before just after game release lol, nice community, or atleast being in [uA] was….

Thanks to everyone for the tips tho, I tried a few but naturally being OCX it still didn’t make it enjoyable… I see less and less OCX players every week, no one around to fight I suppose or nothing to do but PvD

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

Jayden Ennok.3687

I get the most kick out of annoying others by being a major pita when flipping/holding supply camps that are on enemy’s third of the map. Camps are open and more important than sentries so enemy players usually try their best to protect/take them back. There are no walls to protect me (or them) so fights happen and even though I eventually die, the fights are fun and I don’t have to chase people running into their towers.

Underworld Vabbi 1.5yr

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Posted by: yanniell.1236

yanniell.1236

Merge the kitten servers.

[HUE]

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

As someone who has been playing basically nothing but WvW for over a year… I am far from bored. Although, I also have only played on T1 servers so I cannot speak for how it may be in lower tiers.

I go where the wind blows. If the zerg passes by me, sometimes I merge with them sometimes I don’t. If I hop in to the zerg from the get-go, sometimes I lose interest and wander off somewhere else. Sometimes I sit in towers and scout, siege and upgrade and/or escort yaks. While I’m roaming, 95% of the time solo, every so often with 1 or 2 others if I happen to run in to someone else, I’m always going for PPT. I will cap camps, kill yaks, flip sentry’s, tap towers/keeps and if the time is right, I will YOLO solo towers as well, which I personally find to be the most exciting part of my roaming adventures. I will set up catas or trebs in inconspicuous places, slowly working away at a tower, running off if an army comes my way or kiting solos away from my siege to have a good ‘ol show-down. If things are too chaotic, such as during prime time, I’ll just snipe camps and look for fights near enemy spawns. Or, if I’m feeling really daring, I’ll keep an eye on the enemy zergs, when they’ve committed to something, I’ll make a break for it and ram their keep watergates. You’d be surprised how many times I’ve gotten to the lord of a fully upgraded keep just by myself… Unfortunately, even after as long as I’ve been playing, I’ve never solo-capped a keep because defense always arrives.

Anyway, that’s what I do in WvW and it has always been interesting for me. I look at WvW as a playground, what ever seems most exciting is where I’ll go and if I feel like I can help out our server by taking some towers, kitten right I’ll do it!

Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior, Engineer
Champion: Phantom, Hunter, Legionnaire, Genius
WvW rank: Diamond Colonel | Maguuma

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Posted by: VOLTCIEAGE.3029

VOLTCIEAGE.3029

WWW should be main game-mode and it should be strongly connected with pve .
-When you play www you should see notifications from www that your server needs help, that your serv is attacking sm etc etc
- also bonuses from www should be really massive , players who play www should be able to earn 100% mf,10% karma increase,10% gold increase + other stats

Factors like that will bring more players to www and it will force players to play it .

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

They need to harmonize EotM rewards with the other maps and then add it to the PPT rotation, where it should have been in the first place.

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Posted by: caveman.5840

caveman.5840

add new classes
new traits
new weapons

a solution to the blobs

and pay some attention to the strategy that goes in to castle siege.
i dont think siege disabler was the answer

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Posted by: oscuro.9720

oscuro.9720

Well, since zeros dont exist in Kaineng and many of our enemies, it’s all fun and no one really gives a kitten about the score anymore.

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Posted by: Simonoly.4352

Simonoly.4352

The future of GW2 is the Living Story, so WvW is unlikely to see a large dose of content to truly invigorate it. Best thing you can do is join a relatively active WvW guild that know how to have a laugh and just kitten about fighting other people. I personally enjoy small group roaming, trying to take on larger numbers etc. Try and come up with some interesting builds that might benefit the group in some unseen way. Cast away the boring meta builds and get experimental.

Gandara

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Posted by: Synosius.9876

Synosius.9876

Its nvr dull on sor. It has a target rich enviroment…

You all prolly wonder why we still play there; sor is a place where the individual matters. Every point we make is ppt sqeezed out of the enemy with our bloody hands. Its like the difference between making a cake from scratch and buying one in the store.

My solution for making wvw exciting again… let us guest to other servers for wvw.

(Buying guilds alrdy happens so thats not rly a countet point.)
Think how this would affect your stale match ups?
Server has a que? No problem.
Out blobbed? Invite some friends over.
Ocx time dead? There is prolly action somewhere.

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Posted by: Vortok.6975

Vortok.6975

I have 3 suggestions. 1: In the chat they can put the ’’server’’ tab so everybody from that server can respond to the call to arms.

2: The commander can get info from the sentry like if he saw somebody or who and when he got killed.(so info from sentries)

3: When you’re in a keep or tower the commander should have the option to call ALL guards in the keep/tower for backup.

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Posted by: Scryeless.1924

Scryeless.1924

I have 3 suggestions. 1: In the chat they can put the ’’server’’ tab so everybody from that server can respond to the call to arms.

A server wide chat option would be amazing but many would just turn it off and never bother with it because of trolls, negativity, etc… So something would have to be implemented alongside it to entice people into staying in that chat even while in PvE or sPvP or where ever they may be. Something like a Call to Arms buff that can be granted to people that answer that call. It could be similar to the weekend PvP buffs. Only functional in WvW.

Imagine, while doing a jumping puzzle with a friend, you get a prompt similar to the Map Closing prompt we get currently as player numbers drop in the maps you are on. This prompt allows you to answer a Call to Arms for your server in WvW. This can be initiated for different reasons. Maybe in one instance it could initiate based on low server presence in WvW or it could be initiated based on your servers PPT dropping down below a certain threshold or maybe losing so many nodes within a certain amount of time.

I am not sure how we could tie the prompt and buff to encouraging people to keep the chat turned on but maybe someone else could figure that part out.:D

SoS – Ele – Burn Me, Freeze Me, Blind Me, Pound Me — Wait…What?
Warrior – The New Burninator! Strongbad would be so proud!
Guardian – Burn for you, heal for me, block for me and uh…sorry Im all out of gifts.

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