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Posted by: CreativeAnarchy.6324

CreativeAnarchy.6324

Banner is fine.

Structures can be taken and held. You were doing it wrong if you had the numbers but couldn’t take the keep.

I speak for my self and no one else. Only fools believe they speak for a majority.

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Posted by: Brew Pinch.5731

Brew Pinch.5731

I watched about 20 mins of the vid in the background, it seemed you had your entire map just hanging out at the cap point.

Just leavethe pugs there and spread out to clean the keep.

Anything you guys hit got totally annihilated, I stand by my post earlier in the thread in that regard. Your warrior QQ is total bullkitten.

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Posted by: Daendur.2357

Daendur.2357

Warriors are OP and they should be nerfed.
Warrior is the most played profession so warriros will be buffed since Anet listens to the community. lol

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Posted by: Ins.7139

Ins.7139

Buff Warriors, we suffered through months of torture and now we are Kings. Buff us even more, let us have some fun then buff everyone else!

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Any warrior that feels the need for a buff right now, has serious l2p issues.

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Posted by: Daendur.2357

Daendur.2357

They can simply do a GC build without the glass.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

katniss.6735

Add the downed penalty to npcs, too. So the lord rezzes with less stats each time until it’s finally completely dead, at which point only manual rezzing can get them back up again.

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Posted by: Dommmmmmmmmm.6984

Dommmmmmmmmm.6984

Is this what the enemy team looks like? I guess they finally reached the goal of their WvW concept.

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Posted by: Elthurien.8356

Elthurien.8356

its not only warriors that can res the lord. im not sure about most classes but I know necromancers have a signet that does the same

Engineers can from on of the elixir toolbelt skills. Not sure how many other professions can but it’s definitely not just warriors.

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Posted by: mini.6018

mini.6018

Is this what the enemy team looks like? I guess they finally reached the goal of their WvW concept.

Lmao.I always wondered why the wvw loading screen only featured a zerg full of warriors and banners.

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

mesmers have the illusionary res skill, never tried it on a lord though – I’ve hardly used it because it doesn’t seem to work or maybe it did and the limit was 5 people – hard to confirm in a big fight – you sort of cast it and run lol.

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Posted by: Provost.6210

Provost.6210

I saw a warrior last night on IOJ that confused the hell out of me.
“she” (probably not IRL gender) was completely immune to all of the following, all of the time:

  • Cripple SPAM
  • knockback
  • burning (litterally stood in my fire trap, never caught fire)
  • Immobs
  • any physical damage (just out-regened it!) … poison didn’t seem to debuff this btw.

…3 of us all tried to focus her, she just teleported away with that sword whirl faster than any FGS Ele I’ve ever seen before. …. like if this game had 50% faster movement speed?? Well she had like 100% … that’s how fast her disengage was and I’m on double sword roaming ranger which even Ele and Thieves have trouble disengaging from. ….My guild leader just said ignore her. “She’s trolling us”.

I don’t understand this and I need someone to explain it to me. …Just like a month ago everyone was whining that Warrior was the weakest crap there was in PvP’ing. There was a survey where they were dead last. ….someone explain how all those things are allowed, b/c yes, I’ve heard people say that warriors can build to shrug off pretty much everything

Welcome to “mobility warrior”. I believe this to be the utmost cowardly build in the history of the game, even more so than thief stealth spam. A thief at least has a reason to stealth — he has the lowest health pool in the game (along with eles and guardians). I was roaming on my S/D ele in borderlands the day before yesterday when a warrior with a mobility build tried to take me.

I burst his HP down multiple times in a running skirmish that went the entire way from NW supply camp to just outside Bay (in a meandering route that took us by the sentry, which I killed and capped) before he finally met up with his zerg. He never got my health below 33% and did nothing but run with his tail twixt his legs.

Between melandru runes, dogged march, -% condition food, traited stability and invulnerability, shield block, the ability to sword/GS leap into range before you even know I’m there, and a choice on utility bar of 2 more stabilities, another invulnerability, and immunity to condition (any 3 of those 4 are fine), there’s no way in hell you’re stopping me bannering a lord if I really want to.

That’s not even considering that there’s 50+ other people around me either doing the same thing, or providing a distraction. Or that a thief might stealth me before I enter.

Arguments along the line of “just kill the warriors”, or “use CC” or “boon-strip lol!” are stupid. Sure those things might work if the warrior is alone, and you see them early enough. But in the middle of a blob-fight, and where warriors can appear out of nowhere already at the lord, these arguments are nonsense.

The only valid point of discussion is whether having a Lord repeatedly ressed is a legitimate tactic to aid defence against dirty golem rushers, or abuse of mechanic to act as a fail-safe for bad defensive play.

I agree with you, Ragnar. When you dedicate every single one of your runes, utilities, and even your elite to do ONE thing: survive the zerg long enough to drop ONE banner, you had better kittening be able to do it. My warrior runs a similar build, Melandru runes, dogged march, -% condition food… excellent for roaming with a hammer and GS or sword/shield.

The only exception to my statement about “building your entire character around one thing should allow you to do it” is the aforementioned “coward build”, as I call Mobility Warrior. I’m sorry, if you’re a warrior, you need to stand and fight (like a guardian). Even with dogged march and berserker stance, my warrior has to stand and fight if he’s being chased by more than three people… which is about as many as I can take on at the same time if I choose my ground correctly.

One other thing I will mention is that this “window” exploit OP is talking about, which allows people to waypoint in during the brief period when the waypoint becomes uncontested, is already considered an issue. ArenaNet has stated that their intent is to remove waypoints at some point. Their reasons also include how it makes maps seem smaller to be able to travel anywhere in them instantly.

So, if the waypoints are removed, warriors will not be able to instant waypoint in and banner the lord, they’ll have to be in a zerg that mounts an actual offensive to hold the keep.

(edited by Provost.6210)

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Posted by: bradderzh.2378

bradderzh.2378

I know I enjoy being a 30/30/30/30/30 warrior with 6 Utility slots.

And all of them are warbanners xD

In reference to ascended items:
Nar: I love that it will take me time and money to
reach the same level I’m at right now… …said no one, ever.

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Posted by: Omne.4603

Omne.4603

This thread is comical. With strong organization you can definitely counter this more easily then they can keep it going.

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Posted by: Neo Annubis.7429

Neo Annubis.7429

Cat: We can’t agree on anything!
Dog: I disagree! I think we can agree.
Cat: See? We can’t even agree to disagree on disagreeing!

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

they buffed the war even more this patch rofl – time to max a warrior to play the “Guild Warriors” league game heh!!

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