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Posted by: gloombot.3519

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Lol. So GOON said some crap and it represents the whole Mag server? When I play WvW I see 2-3 people from SFD and 1-2 people from GOON, tops.

GOON will burn out on this game in like 2-3 months like they do every game that’s -not- EVE. Real Mag players don’t hold their breath for GOON to do anything, let alone have voted for them to represent us in any way.

Sorry, but if you are feeding into that, GOON trolls > you.

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Posted by: Rebound.3409

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I find it funny that ppl listen to goon to be honest….like they are some kind of a good guild or something…. I have been rolling goon guys so easy when DB was matched vs Maguuma last week, it wasn’t even funny…and no it wasn’t a zerg. I always found a group of 3 goon players trying to scavenge flags in WvW (won’t be a douch….it’s now happening to us) and i could always take them all down solo.

I clearly remember once and only once having issues and getting killed….but the rest?! Every goon i met…i killed with very strange ease. I don’t even have the time to dedicate so much to the game as others…so most likely i lack experience compared to some of the hardcore players tat theorycraft and know how to time their skills pictureperfect…..hell i even remember a group of about 4 (+-1) goon players specifically targeting me wherever i was even if i was with 2-3 ppl, or in zergs….i swear each time i was the first to be ganked by them… they either never killed me or i killed them (with or without the optional zerg)

Sorry but i will never be able to take seriously someone or something said by GOON. They are not at a position where their words matter. Not for me atleast.

As for the Maguuma server….i stated somewhere else, dominating 100% is boring as u are left with scraps to kill in WvW. Being dominated 100% is just pure stupid from my POV (on the game’s side). This shouldn’t happen in a well match up system. U guys did great for the skill and timespans u played/were active. U offered some great fun moments of intense battles. Am sad that it had to be a 100% constant domination (just like it’s now with JQ).

Hope next time we meet u guys get a bit more active throughout the day and we can have some proper fun in WvW. Till then!…glhfgg in WvW with the servers u will be matched with.

PS. A tip that could benefit both of our servers next time (u get better..we get better fights). Please stop investing SOOOOO much into pure damage gear. I swear, this was even brought up in the guild TS….. an extremely large amount of players from your side are SO squishy….as in extremely squishy …. damage isn’t everything..that’s why u die so fast in big fights or even fights. Theorycraft a bit on the gear u ware. If u manage to do that, it would make both server’s lifes much more enjoyable. Take for example the WvW gear…why do u think it has power/toughness/vit+slot in it (even MOST weapons have those same stats)?

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Posted by: Jamaz.9837

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It appears the Tarnished Coast – Ehmry Bay alliance was successful.

We bartered with TC in Ehmry Bay Borderlands Wednesday, and when Maguuma’s SFD guild decided to ninja queue and siege Etheron while we were sieging Dreaming Bay (3 times), TC was benevolent enough to completely decimate them at the runes and at their own tower. We, in kind, trebbed Maguuma to death at their tower and sent them home to Maguuma Borderlands where they should have queued in the first place before losing all of it.

Kudos to you, TC, for honoring this pact. We hope to do business with you in the future.

P.S. Your 2-4 man TSG squads are quite formidable, and I would say are a bigger threat than 10 Maguumas.

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Posted by: Zynthetic.2954

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Funny you should say that, because yesterday myself, another TSG guildie and a random thief held out at the lord’s room in one of the hills keeps against 15 maguuma, and wiped them.

So I’d have to agree with that statement.

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Posted by: katniss.6735

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So much trolling in this tread. Maguuma has about 10000 guilds. 20 people try to lead. 50 people troll those people. There’s very little organization or money being put into siege, and upgrades. We lose more people every day. I’ve been in maybe 3 parties this entire week. Only one of them was mildly successful. It fell apart when the rest of the team didn’t follow suit, and we wasted time on day one with trebs in a pointless area, when rams would have been 10x faster. I think I did 2-3 puzzles for siege because they were always packed with enemy and 0 teammates. There’s no alliances. Give it a rest. You make yourself look foolish every time you moan about that. We have no alliance with each other, either. That’s how bad it is. It’s just one big argument. Money wasted. Plans neglected, or trolled. Playing for ressurection and repair achievement titles 90% of the time. lmao

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

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Great battle last night in Ehmry Bay Borderlands all! It was a real challenge to keep both Maguuma and TC from pushing us over, but we managed to hang on.

There was a lot of misdirection, and gun and run tactics at play but overall made for a very fun evening!

Thanks for leading commander Jamaz, it was a pleasure.

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Posted by: Shiri.6728

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Holding Dreaming Bay against an EBay force twice our size with Maguuma not even on the map for like 4 hours was pretty satisfying, apparently we lost it as soon as I switched to Eternal though

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Posted by: Dwok Immortalus.2763

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Slightly related note, but is anyone else terrified by the rapidly increasing rate of transfers to TC once we started running away on score? I didn’t realize there were that many people doing that.

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Posted by: Zoula.5139

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Sheep gotta get shepherded.

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Posted by: Rhyis.7058

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Slightly related note, but is anyone else terrified by the rapidly increasing rate of transfers to TC once we started running away on score? I didn’t realize there were that many people doing that.

I don’t remember it happening in DAoC, but it happened in WAR. Eventually entire servers were taken down because everybody jumped ship from the losing faction to the winning one. It was slightly different I guess since the battles were done on the same server, with 2 opposing factions. Ended up being 5v1 kind of numbers and everybody would just eventually quit out of boredom. The winning and losing sides.

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Posted by: Regnier.9240

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TSG has been destroying at night times for WvW. Tarnished Coasts will grab all of Eternal overnight. With pain train express leading TSG’s zergs we have been dominating every night. Magguuma has been putting up a fight though.

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Posted by: Dwok Immortalus.2763

Dwok Immortalus.2763

Slightly related note, but is anyone else terrified by the rapidly increasing rate of transfers to TC once we started running away on score? I didn’t realize there were that many people doing that.

I don’t remember it happening in DAoC, but it happened in WAR. Eventually entire servers were taken down because everybody jumped ship from the losing faction to the winning one. It was slightly different I guess since the battles were done on the same server, with 2 opposing factions. Ended up being 5v1 kind of numbers and everybody would just eventually quit out of boredom. The winning and losing sides.

Well, it was prohibitively difficult to ‘start over’ unless you had organized help in DAoC. MMOs were still a very niche player base back then too.

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Posted by: Rhyis.7058

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Well, it was prohibitively difficult to ‘start over’ unless you had organized help in DAoC. MMOs were still a very niche player base back then too.

Yeah, entirely different mind set back then.

TSG has been destroying at night times for WvW. Tarnished Coasts will grab all of Eternal overnight. With pain train express leading TSG’s zergs we have been dominating every night. Magguuma has been putting up a fight though.

That seems unlikely. We’re outmanned in every borderlands from 12am-5pm EST during the weekdays.

Not anybody’s fault, just saying.

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Posted by: Eliteseraph.4970

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Chiming in here from EB:

I only work a part time job, so I have a lot of hours to put in on GW2. I play WvW at all kinds of random hours of the day AND night. Sometimes I’m up playing at 6am, other times 1am, or noon, or 3 in the afternoon.

Every time I go into WvW there are plenty of people fighting. I have yet to see a situation where there’s steamrolling going on due to lack of population. Sure, one side might be a little bit outnumbered at a keep, but it’s ALWAYS a fight to take it. So all you people claiming there’s some kind of unfair advantage due to population need to stop making excuses and get back in the fight.

But last night was the first time I’ve actually seen Maguuma actively going out of their way to support TC. Up until now it’s been pretty subtle, but while us EB guys were trying to take Dreaming, Mag was doing nothing buy running around in our back-court harassing supply camps and other areas and more or less ignoring TC’s territory.

At first I thought it was just Maguuma being stupid and trying to snap up some points. But then I found this thread.

Really Mag, you should be embarrassed. Fighting 1v2 only gives us EB guys more practice, and we’ve repeatedly shown that we don’t give up and we CAN hold our own against it. But Mag, really….being TC’s little servant isn’t going to help you in the long run. You might end up second place this week by riding their coattails(That’s not even assured with the way EB has been fighting tooth and nail), but what are you going to do the week after? Settling for 2nd place is just a losing strategy, and it’s going to hurt WvW in the long run.

Because if you Mag players keep listening to the guys shouting to help another server win, all that’s gonna hapkitten you’re going to get weaker and weaker since you never learn to stand on your own. People are going to just transfer away. So all you honest Mag players trying to fight to win, you need to get on top of this.

As for TC: you guys put up some fierce fights every time we assault you. That’s gonna serve you well in the next matchup. After constantly fighting 1v2, EB is going to end up wrecking whoever we get matched against next time, so even if we drop down this week, you’ll be seeing us again soon.

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Posted by: gloombot.3519

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There. is. no. alliance.
There. is. no. chat. about. helping. TC server.

Show proof. Please. Otherwise it’s all in your head. You’re reading into power plays we might be making.

If anything, almost all chat about strategies on locations to hit have been about targeting TC targets, NOT ebay targets. 99% of the time it’s about TAKING BACK our own kitten. It’s not even about expanding because 99% of the time TC owns 90+% of the entire WvW map. Your camps might get hit by some of our 3-5 person roam squads, but that doesn’t constitute conspiracy and alliance. They’re probably doing a circuit around the entire map capping EVERY sentry and EVERY supply camp.

Let me rephrase. Taking back targets that are ours from Ebay that have been taken from us, BY them, does -not- constitute harassing or teaming against you, or focusing on you instead of TC.

When TC owns 90% of the map, why the kitten would we trudge through their entire zerg territory to take over your little 10% that’s already being sieged by TC’s second zerg. That would put BOTH TC’s zergs (that each outnumber ours 2:1) on us. Your guys’ entire server is turning into a joke. I used to have respect for Ebay, but it’s dwindling with all this imaginary alliance nonsense.

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Posted by: Slyther.1297

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Eliteseraph, that’s called tactics. Exploiting a weakness in your enemy because they’re busy else where is common practice among all servers, even yours… Ehmry does this to us too. Example? We nearly lost Durios in Eternal because Ehmry cut off the supply we were using to keep the wall repaired from TC trebbing.

One thing I’ve noticed in Eternal is that nearly every time we shift our focus to TC Ehmry will stab us in the back, usually by taking Umber and attempting to take Durios/Bravost. This catches the attention of Maguuma zerg, angry mob zergs back Umber, goes north to wipe the ogre camp clean, then the zerg mentality continues to go north to Ogrewatch. There’s no stopping it, it’s almost a conditioned response whenever a zerg moves to retake Umber.

Then Ehmry proceeds to whine that we’re double teaming them, when it’s their own fault they’re getting the attention of our zerg repeatedly. And from what I’ve seen Ogrewatch has been a much more attractive target than Klovan/Jerrifer because nearly every assault I’ve witnessed or been a part of into TC territory fails beyond capturing Golanta. Even the more organized assault against Klovan this morning, whereas we avoided the front gate this time and hit the wall instead, ended up being thwarted by a massive TC zerg.

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

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ya, WvW is about being where your enemy isn’t and disrupting their supply and reinforcements along with protecting what is yours.

Its only 2 v 1 because an opening has occurred a due to over extension OR you have an item that both parties want (ie keeps, towers or supply).

I really don’t see the two sides working together as much as both sides being forced in to a confrontation and picking the path of least resistance.

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Posted by: whiran.1473

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So, about the alliance…

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Posted by: Slyther.1297

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(Had to cut this into two posts due to length)

I’d like to say that I had a huge amount of fun in Eternal yesterday and into early morning hours, spent a good fifteen hours or so playing yesterday.

Logged in about 12:30 PM, TC had Eternal 100% capped, only a small handful of Maguuma players were present so a small group began doing some small objectives.

Eventually we start getting the prime time players joining, so we assault Langor and reclaim it, which we then used as a base to assault our keep. I believe we had a few players retake Bravost and Umber as well during the siege. I recall at least five cata’s and other random siege being deployed.

I ended up claiming Langor and began upgrading it, and decided I had one major goal for the day: Prevent another full night cap, or at the very least give TC a hell of a fight in doing so. Throughout the day I’d frequently check on Langor, making sure an upgrade was always qued when possible, trying to keep our supply lines going and joining defense and assaults when needed.

At some point Ehmry took Stonemist, we had some random players attacking the castle while for the most part Maguuma seemed to be digging in. Eventually a wall in Stonemist did fall, and we noticed TC was inside as well, so the focus shifted to attempting to take Stonemist. We break through the north inner gate while TC breaks in from south, resulting in a long, massive threeway battle that raged on for over an hour. Despite the horrible lag and the invisible army it was a lot of fun, but eventually TC won out and the remaining Maguuma force had to retreat.

I mentioned this next development in my above post. When TC got Stonemist back they resumed trebbing Durios, so some of us were focusing on upgrading it and doing repair runs from Umber, and I believe we had some people down south as well. Ehmry proceeded to take Umber from us and hold it, preventing us from repairing the ongoing damage to Durios. I believe we barely managed to hold off a TC assault on Durios, only to have Ehmry and TC both assault it again a bit later and fight each other for it.

Some random screenshots I took:
-Stonemist (This particular one was when we came in behind TC at the south gate, we came through North again when we eventually wiped here)
-TC’s attempt to siege Langor (I only got one shot off before the owner there took over)
-Langor still stands bearing my guild emblem shortly before I logged off

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Posted by: Slyther.1297

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I don’t recall much else happening, that is until Maguuma started sleeping and the TC night zerg formed. They overran Daneleon and Quentin extremely quickly despite us raining arrows down on them at Quentin gate, the gate went down so fast it didn’t seem to matter to them. I went to Langor after this in case they went down there, but they went Durios instead, then disappeared for awhile to wipe Ehmry off the map.

Eventually the zerg came back and went for Bravost, I was one of only three or so players that showed up to defend that, and I’m sad to say we lost it with over 360 supply still in the tower. Spamming my lone arrow cart on the door seemed to do little to thwart the attack.

The zerg went to Daneleon, and we knew Langor was the next target so we rallied our defence there. The moment had come, this is where we were going to stop the full night cap. I spent all day fully upgrading Langor, it had a full 700 supply and lots of siege defense. I honestly think TC didn’t expect us to be so well dug in, as they easily gave up on Langor and to our amusement bypassed us to go for the keep instead, to which we theorized that they thought it’d be an easier target.

I stayed at Langor, but a bulk of our players did go to the keep to defend. They got to the inner wall, but our defence seemed solid from what I was able to see from the distance. I believe TC retreated at least once to resupply at Daneleon and tried another assault on the keep. Eventually though they did seem to give up and regrouped at Daneleon once more.

They tried to go for Langor again, this time seeming to be much more organized. They didn’t go for rams this time, instead trying to set up cata’s and such beyond the bridge which easily died to our siege. They tried building trebs too, which we counter-trebbed. It seemed we had more players show up too, which was a little odd considering the time of night.

We pushed back to Daneleon and reclaimed it, another guild came on the map, I think from our Borderland, to retake Bravost, Durios, Umber, and even pushed into Ogrewatch and Pangloss. We on the south flank had a fight go on at the north Daneleon choke tunnel for quite awhile until we eventually broke through and reclaimed Quentin. We proceeded to head west, clearing the Hylek camp and claiming Golanta.

We then began an assault on Klovan, and many of us knew the front gate was a death trap as Maguuma had already failed to take Klovan at least three times earlier in the day. We opted to go for the walls instead, building some cata’s up on the hill behind a rock to keep them out of LoS of the ballista. We cleared much of the siege and I believe had the walls down to 60%’ish when we got zerged from behind, apparently reinforcement from another battleground.

Unfortunately I didn’t take a screenshot of the early morning map, but I did go to bed happy in the fact that my efforts in upgrading Langor was a key factor in preventing a full night cap, fulfilling my goal I had set for the day.

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Posted by: Hix.8925

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Small Mag groups going for supply happens to TC too. This happened so much on Tuesday that TC retaliated by forming a golem army taking Mag’s keep and all 4 towers while Mag was fighting in Ogrewatch, solely to troll Mag.

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Posted by: Monte.5013

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Forget the alliance stuff, I know some people in Ebay (where I am) are playing for second as of today. I still think OP was wrong or trolling, as I said earlier in this posting (about 2 days ago) I wake up and play before work (so from 11am-3/4pm est) and every morning the entire map is green. From 11am to primetime (I stayed home one night) it was great 3 way fighting. I can’t say when they do it, but somehow, every night they take over the whole map in every zone (Ebay and Mag stuff). Definitely must have a night crew. Every day this week, starting around 11, people start taking it back (I’ve been there on for the last 3 to do this). It’s like clockwork.

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Posted by: Sharpclaw.7510

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Really Mag, you should be embarrassed.

I’m not from Mag but I feel I should say that after your post, they’re not the ones who should feel embarrassed. Sometimes, smart tactics means picking your targets and/or ignoring certain ones for those that you can take and hold. If, say, an enemy force is beleaguered by another enemy and you believe you can seize upon the advantage to destroy the first and then rout the second, that’s what you do.

Battle plans adapt and they generally shift in reaction to the actual conditions of the battlefield. You want to take that keep over there but it’s already being attacked by another enemy from the North? You attack from the South, split the initial forces focus and then crash in to take out the other enemy or at least drive them back. If you have the advantage, you attack where the advantage is. If you have the disadvantage, you avoid that spot or leave it.

There’s a shorter way to put all that. It’s called being smart.

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Posted by: gloombot.3519

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Lol. Who is playing for second now?

Mag borderlands has been swarmed with us getting double teamed by TC and Ebay all day.

Doesn’t matter. Any proof we show of no alliance is completely ignored.

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Posted by: whiran.1473

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Did someone say golem army?

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Posted by: Regnier.9240

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TSG has been destroying at night times for WvW. Tarnished Coasts will grab all of Eternal overnight. With pain train express leading TSG’s zergs we have been dominating every night. Magguuma has been putting up a fight though.

That seems unlikely. We’re outmanned in every borderlands from 12am-5pm EST during the weekdays.

Not anybody’s fault, just saying.[/quote]

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Posted by: Eanae.3178

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I’ve never seen either TC or Maguuma fight over each others locations in Eternal. It’s always splitting the map in half double teaming Ehmry Bay up north. I think the map is fundamentally flawed that people have a native instinct to attack in polar directions (north and south) so the two southern teams will always seem to be ganging up on the northern team. Eternal Battlegrounds needs a COMPLETE remake because the north team will always be at a major disadvantage.

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Posted by: Slyther.1297

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Eanae, as a Maguuma player I can tell you that’s false. TC and Maguuma fight all the time, and Quentin and Durios will change hands semi-frequently. We both constantly harass the others supply to. TC has dug in rather firm though, and in the past few days every Maguuma assault on Jerrifer/Klovan fails. This fact may make it seem like we’re not fighting each other as stuff may not change hands as often as Ehmry stuff does, but we are very much fighting each other.

We also haven’t been able to focus entirely on TC because Ehmry stabs us in the back every time we try. As I explained in an earlier post this gets the attention of our zerg and they just keep pushing north when we get our stuff back.

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Posted by: Zynthetic.2954

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TSG has been destroying at night times for WvW. Tarnished Coasts will grab all of Eternal overnight. With pain train express leading TSG’s zergs we have been dominating every night. Magguuma has been putting up a fight though.

When I logged off last night at about 2am EST Maguuma had actually made an effort, and had more points ticking then what TC had.

Admittedly, would be nice if TC stayed out of the fighting today, just to let Emhry and Mag fight over 2nd. We all know that won’t happen though.

Good luck to Mag and Emhry today.

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Posted by: Sharpclaw.7510

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Why would we not fight? I mean, I understand that the point differential is there but calling it a day is a bit much.

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Posted by: Furienify.5738

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Because whenever the next matchup is determined, our point lead (and the track record for Arenanet’s match-making system) is basically going to guarantee we’ll go up against servers far better prepared, organized, and armed than we are. It’ll be Dragonbrand all over again.

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Posted by: Sharpclaw.7510

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/shrug, says I. We learned just as much from that loss as we have from this win.

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Posted by: Ultravalefor.5038

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I hope Tarnished Coast gets put up against stronger servers.

We have good leadership (at times) and we need to sharpen ourselves. I’ve seen us do some great things… We should be aiming to improve.

What we really need is to get some commander symbols on our actual commanders, not enough of them have it. I’ve donated but I encourage everyone else to do so as well. If you trust them with your character’s life, trust them with a bit of your money

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Posted by: bwookie.3807

bwookie.3807

Why would TC want to go fight stronger servers? I don’t think a single server that won last week is winning their matchup now. Except for HOD.

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Posted by: Zynthetic.2954

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If you go up against stronger servers you can work out your faults and work towards improving them, something lower tiers can’t.

Being thrashed by NSP when the alliance was still there (TSG was on SoS at that point), we learnt a lot of advanced tactics from them which we’ve fielded against our foes in later matches.

If TC only goes up 1 tier, we should be fine, if we go up two however, I admit we may have our hands full at that point.

Regardless, we, as a server, just need to work towards strengthening our WvW presence, and working towards greater co-operation and collaboration with the rest of the PvP and WvW guilds on our server. I know for a fact TSG badly needs more members to field a full TSG zerg and/or multiple harassment groups.

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Posted by: Zynthetic.2954

Zynthetic.2954

Well someone on Maguuma just used the mesmer portal exploit to go through the gate or something at Quinten Lake.

And they still got smashed.

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Posted by: Eliteseraph.4970

Eliteseraph.4970

Hey guys, I wanted to apologize about that post I made earlier. I was getting pretty irritated at the slow progress by EB last night( we were REALLY disorganized and just zerging mostly). So when I saw some Mag players trolling around in our back-court I assumed the worst. I thought I let it go, but when I logged on and saw this thread it all snuck up on me again and I made that post above.

Really this was a pretty close match up. I know TC did a fine job of staying on top of things, but orbs and territory has passed back and forth throughout the entire week. None of our servers really has anything to be ashamed of, and I shouldn’t have lashed out at Maguuma for attacking us, since all three servers are always enemies no matter what territory they control.

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Posted by: Jeul.1068

Jeul.1068

Hey guys, I wanted to apologize about that post I made earlier. I was getting pretty irritated at the slow progress by EB last night( we were REALLY disorganized and just zerging mostly). So when I saw some Mag players trolling around in our back-court I assumed the worst. I thought I let it go, but when I logged on and saw this thread it all snuck up on me again and I made that post above.

Really this was a pretty close match up. I know TC did a fine job of staying on top of things, but orbs and territory has passed back and forth throughout the entire week. None of our servers really has anything to be ashamed of, and I shouldn’t have lashed out at Maguuma for attacking us, since all three servers are always enemies no matter what territory they control.

When people ask me how this matchup went, I really like the fact that it’s been a good fight with very little negativity. Statements like this help that out.

Oh, and I’m from TC.

Ranger of The Eventide Concordat
www.Eventide-Concordat.com
Tarnished Coast

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Posted by: Sharpclaw.7510

Sharpclaw.7510

Although, as nice of a match up it was, I have lost some respect for Ehmry. I’d be lying if I said otherwise.

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Posted by: Klawlyt.6507

Klawlyt.6507

I’m over the whole alliance thing. It very likely didn’t happen. If it did, good job, we got out politicked. What really drives me crazy is when we get called whiny, crazy conspiracy theorists for speculating about an alliance in the “Hey Maguuma, this is TC and we would like to start an alliance” thread.

Good game TC. Good game Mag. Seriously. But if you don’t want people accusing you of using underhanded tactics, try to to insinuate that you use underhanded tactics so loudly, whether it’s true or not.

The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real.
No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

(edited by Klawlyt.6507)

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Posted by: Sharpclaw.7510

Sharpclaw.7510

The OP is actually from Mag. Not that it matters much. I’m not really referring to forum conduct in terms of my diminishing of respect for your server, unfortunately. You seem fine. I’ve enjoy this match too. Glad you did. But, yeah…at least with Dragonbrand it was a matter of getting outplayed by an organized force and I can respect that.

Ehmry? Well, I honestly think some people from your server earned what they got. Maybe not you. Maybe not even a large percentage. But some.

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Posted by: Klawlyt.6507

Klawlyt.6507

I posted a few pages ago about the psychological implications of this thread merely existing, and I think it was pronounced. I’ve been running around my server all week telling everyone we got trolled, but I think most folks like having the excuse. “We didn’t lose cause we sucked, we lost cause THEY made us do it”. It did have a very discernible effect on morale. And while I don’t believe anything was firmly in place, I do believe just that rumor did some damage during the week from the other sides as well. How many 5 man groups just saw the first few posts of this thread and decided to hit EB instead of another target, just in case? We’ll never know, but we can’t pretend as though it had no effect. WvW is a game of lots of small things adding up to big effects. I would like that recognized.

That being said, by monday it seemed all morale had been sapped, and I started getting more frustrated with our own defeatism than any threat of an alliance. Hopefully we don’t get fooled again.

EDIT: I guess my whole point is, I don’t want to see each week become a game of who can extend a bogus alliance offer first. This week was no prob, and it worked great. It’s not really the way I’d like to see the game played regularly. Maybe once we’ve all clashed a bit more, but no one in the middle third of the bracket had even heard of us before this week, so I know a lot of players thought we were being kittenon for nothing.

The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real.
No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.

(edited by Klawlyt.6507)

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Posted by: Rhyis.7058

Rhyis.7058

The funny thing is the OP already acknowledged he was trolling earlier on, for exactly this reason. To destroy EB morale. But the post was taken down by Anet, along with any post talking about it.

So I guess that was considered a troll post, but this entire thread isn’t. For whatever reason lol

Friday night, when the match ups reset, I saw EB in the lead and it didn’t take a genius to realize that after the beating TC and Mag took the week before, EB would get focused on for a while without anyone having to say anything. It’s basic strategy!

But after talking with some people in GOON and SFD (personal friends, not officers or anything) we came up with an experiment wherein by putting up a fake call to arms we might be able to anger some of EB’s players and demoralize them in an act of psychological warfare. So I posted! I said ‘hey TC and Mag let’s ally and take down EB!’ and we sat back, occasionally posted to induce error, and watched with popcorn.

After all the reports of people believing there is a real alliance, the insults being flung around, the conspiracies! being built, we smiled and knew we had done our job.

I just wanted to give a nice, big shout out to tkitten folks on this forum for giving us a laugh and making it worth our time to set this up by reacting so strongly to something that’s not even there.

You folks, have officially been trolled, and it was amazing.

Once TC moves on (they are the superior players, and I wish them the best of luck in the upper WvWvW bracket!), perhaps EB and Mag will rematch. When that happens, phase 2 of the idea I cooked with my friends will begin. Where phase 1 was an experiment to test how a server would react to a perceived alliance (outcries, whining in /team and /map, conspiracy theories, etc), phase 2 is an experiment to test how poorly that same server would play in a rematch against this perceived alliance, and whether or not the tunnel vision-induced rage causes them to play poorly and lower their guard.

Hopefully it proves to be as entertaining as phase 1 has been! Keep at it, EB, we -love- watching you denounce conspiracies and alliances that don’t really exist (and for that matter, we love seeing how badly it affects you in team and map chat, hint hint).

Until then…

“When you troll right, people won’t be sure you trolled at all.”

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Posted by: shoognite.2106

shoognite.2106

570 badges for Tinfoil hat

Jaquan “Shoognite” Jenkins
Urban Outreach Program Director, Goon Guilds, LLC.
Jjenkins@GoonGuildsLLC.com

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Posted by: whiran.1473

whiran.1473

Klawlyt.6507, next match-up, want to ally?

This has been the best match-up so far for me. I’ve enjoyed the match and I had to laugh a few times. For example, this morning (I’ve been trying to check out all the different maps at different times when I can) I saw EB and Mag going at it when there was a skeleton crew of TCs online.

I think TC had ~30 players all told on and had control of most of the map. EB and Mag started taking everything back (since 30 people really can’t defend the entire map especially when at least 10 are off doing whatever they do) but stopped to fight over Bravos.

It was great. The two “organized” zergs wiped one another. That broke the momentum and even though both servers had more people on than TC at that one particular moment in time (TC definitely had more people on earlier) the two teams were fighting one another and not TC.

I don’t know if that’s what has been going on all week or not but it was amusing. I had to solo defend twice – lost one outpost to tkitten group of 35 (being dead on the ground allows for a good counting opportunity) and the other I “defended” ’cause Mag and EB went at it at the gate.

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Posted by: Zoula.5139

Zoula.5139

I propose every server makes an alliance with every other server.

Zoula Frostmane
<Bloodgale Vanguard>
www.vanguardgaming.com

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Posted by: Krustydog.1043

Krustydog.1043

Fat Lady aint singing yet. GO EBAY!

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Posted by: McKnighter.6472

McKnighter.6472

Come on guys, let us split the maps into an even split, and let us focus on PvE and jumping puzzles. There’s no need for player violence!

(Baroness) Noria Dolance, Human Mesmer
Tandrel, Sylvari Guardian

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Posted by: Zoula.5139

Zoula.5139

In the last hours we should all just gather round and sing kumbaiah

Zoula Frostmane
<Bloodgale Vanguard>
www.vanguardgaming.com

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Posted by: Talgonadia.3194

Talgonadia.3194

Bump to 400 posts. Or we could just all meet in the middle of the water and get SS of us all dancing and shooting cannons