Guild Wars 2

Back to work; Meanwhile at work.. checking forums..

Few things that i want to mention. A combination of Small, Medium and Big guild is a perfect fit for Sanctum or Rall Server. Everything they do helps the WvW Environments. PuGs taking Supply Camps Contribute Greatly.

We Sanctum of Rall Was Mad the first day When Yaks Took the lead Dramatically, Everyone Adjust and try to get the lead back Specially the Dedicated Guilds and players. Most of us took 4-6hrs sleep just to keep it up or Didn’t sleep Since its the weekend. Now we took the lead.. We are happy and Everyone is Relax

Also let me mention about the time of Michael Jordan. When all they see is Michael Jordan and the rest are only a Shadow. Jordan cannot do it alone… Same thing i wanted to mention about the Great big guilds in SoR. Remember that you have other people running there and i know Small guilds that are Dedicated in WvW. Dont take the whole credit because everyone deserve it. Like i said to my members even we only have 25-30 Active players that do WvW(Casually at Night). We have to follow Commanders either you like it or not. We are not doing it just the please Me or other Commanders, We are doing it for the Server. Baddies, We don’t need to Blame, or to rub it to their faces. Let us do Better and try to carry them to victory. Whining doesn’t really help. This is the reason We are winning. Because Everyone Communicate! Everyone is being helpful! Everyone Helps Small, Medium Large Guild. Everyone Deserve a beer/Milk! Cheers SOR!!! Keep up the Good Work. Appreciate your people. Without People you wont win any battles.

Hehe, I already give the Secret of Sanctum of Rall…. Hope they dont beat me up. xD

Hey, Just a few quick comments.

1. Someone in the thread was going off about a rogue who jumped into a bunch of SoR Dagger spun and when he got low health ‘all of a sudden full healed hax hax hax’ – Ya, that might have been me… Just FYI – when you LEVEL in pvp you full heal…

2. Yaks has a few issues – One issue is Communication – We have larger guilds on thier own TS, Vent ect – we have MOST commanders on Mumble – and god knows where the pugs are. Us Commanders are spending TOO much time typing and not enough time running the icon to where it needs to be. If EVERYONE just got on mumble – Muted mic and listened – things will sort itself out.

Mara, individual commander responsibility is NOT what the issue is. I know (myself included) commanders who have dropped 18 hour days over the weekend. Worked stupid hard at setting up the maps so we can actually get some sleep – only to log in and see the map blue :/

Last week was a wicked match – the influx of guilds on SoR from HoD or JQ will move you into the next tier. Oh – and those guilds that transferd Yaks → SoR: Keep them. We don’t want them back.

Subtle

I hope GoM commanders are reading this post.

If you think taking a zerg around a borderland taking locations, only for the locations to be recaptured not 5 minutes later, end up with Garrison, with the rest of the map blue (we’re green), and calling that successful, I honestly think you should re-evaluate your pretty blue icon above your head.

You completely ignore and condescend those who are trying to provide you with alternatives. You ignore guilds who are able to do what they do best, by telling them to join the zerg. You ignore defence and upgrades, demoralizing those who spent a fortune to buy sieges AND fortification upgrades, only to lose them 5 minutes after.

GoM commanders, get your act together and please throw your ego into the trash bin. Changes need to start with you, and until that happens, GoM will be in this predicament for a long time.

@ Gosu.

“1) Rallying up works when the mass listens and rallies up. Unfortunately without a commander icon, you’re just a non-factor, with no reason for people to rally up to you.”

(A) Even those without an icon have a voice. If there are motivated individuals on your server trying to rally the troops who are commanders, embrace them, do not turn a blind eye to their efforts.

“2) We’re not asking you to stop fighting. That’s plain stupid.”

(B) Never said you were asking us to stop fighting, however.. People complain about the “number” situation without realizing, both servers still have numbers, what they lack is morale. Our ques are full because we are winning, and like any other server who is winning, the players wish to be a part of that. When a server is losing, it is very hard to get people to participate, but you have to keep trying to convince them to come make a difference.

“3) Guilds transferring off of GoM because of the stupidity of the people on the server, and their inability to follow coordination. It has nothing to do with fidelity. I know many guilds who have put 150% into WvW, but are burnt out and GoM hasn’t improved. Why stay and why put 150% with zero changes? You tell me.”

C) SoR was in a similar rut when the game first launched as many guilds on our server wished to get level 80 or do PvE content first, it was extremely frustrating to guilds who spent all day in WvW, they burned out really quickly. However, instead of leaving the server, they reached out to the other guilds on SoR. More started to participate, and things became more balances so that our WvW guilds could get some breaks.

“4) The commanders rally. But the commanders are part of the problem. With the exception of 5% of commanders, the rest are as clueless as the zerg is. They are undeserving of their icon. They have no open mind, no leadership, and keep repeating what fails.”

(D) Every server has their good and “bad” commanders, and I agree there’s not much you can do about that. But on SoR, those commanders who are “bad” are generally weeded out by the community because they refuse to follow them. In your case I do not think you can do this because of the point you made below.

“5) The commanders will not change, because they have a base of followers (zerg), that blindly follow them.”

(E) The only real suggestion I have is that your server has a “commander” meeting or a “guild meeting” or some sort of meeting to get all of your commanders on the same page. If they refuse to change, they need to be made aware that your current course your server is on is NOT benefiting the community and they need to step up and be more open minded.

@ Mara

1.A.i: Unfortunately when the coordination between commanders and non-commanders conflict, the zerg will always listen to the commanders. I am one of the more voiceful non-commanders in GoM, and when there are no commanders present, it works great. However with a commander present, the zerg amasses with the commander, and rips on me like paper.

2.B.ii: I don’t blame the outnumbering at all. That’s a fact of life, and that’s something we need to live with. Those who blame the queue are lazy, unmotivated, and losers who are afraid to take any action when something goes against them. I completely agree with you there. However I cannot control humanity’s flaw.

3.C.iii: That has been attempted 3 times, and continues to be attempted, with and met with failures. There has been 3 alliances, which all met with failures. I’m happy that you were successful with yours. Unfortunately it didn’t go smoothly here. It’s not to say that we haven’t tried, we’ve tried with 150%, and to be honest, it’s exhausting. It’s exhausting to the point where some just want to (or have) quit the game.

4.D.iv and 5.E.v: There has been a meeting (a few). This alliance is called the “Commander Alliance”, where the majority of the commanders meet up. Unfortunately, the following has occurred:

a) Many have taken a break/gone on vacation
b) They are closed minded and are dead set in believing their way or the highway
c) The majority of them are undeserving of their commander icon, have no leadership abilities, have no sense of strategy and tactics
d) And they are empowered by a community of not-so-good players.

This is a recipe for disaster, and the only person I recall that has successfully come back from a similar predicament is Augustus, the Roman Emperor.

edit: It seems like people like you as a commander, and you seem to have excellent leadership abilities. If I had a choice, I’d sure like to be able to play on your server with you.

This is why that commander rank should be earned through WuvWuv achievments, not bought with 100g, as for you Mara keep doing what you’re doing #1 Commander SoR.

the few dedicated players will continue to fight during prime time. So for a couple of hours a day you will meet heavy resistance.
As for the rest of the day you will have to endure your long ques to log into barren wastelands..

From a Yak’s player perspective, the problem with this week’s matchup is twofold.

First, SoR has gotten a huge boost in the last week. SoR was in a good spot for our tier at the beginning of last week. Sometime last week SoR seems to have gotten a few transfers from higher tier servers. Y’all had some growing pains that were apparent for a couple of days but then both the quality and the numbers of SoR’s play jumped way up. Yak’s can still put up some good fights on one map, but it is a bloody fight for whatever we hold and in the meantime SoR holds the other three.

Second problem is GoM just doesnt seem to have either the people or the organization to compete with Yak’s and certainly not SoR. GoM can’t mount any sort of comeback without getting rolled by a much larger and better organized SoR force. You can’t blame the SoR players, they just want someone to fight but if I were GoM I wouldn’t poke my head out either.

To all the SoR players complaining about not having a good fight this week, your option is clear. Get your guilds that jumped to SoR last week to jump to GoM this week. Thst probably isn’t the best solution though, we need SOR to move on up and try to get back the parity we had last week in our bracket.

Mara is correct.

I have been on Sanctum of Rall since I started playing. We have gotten stomped plenty, but through sheer determination our server has managed to win consistently. This has attracted some guilds, of course, but it has also served to focus our community on WvW.

We used to get night-capped hard, but we have fixed that.

We used to roam around as a mindless zerg, but we have fixed that.

We even had a few guilds leave. Good riddance.

The guild leadership on our server, combined with generally good will and cooperation has given us a powerful WvW force. Since Fort Aspenwood stomped us flat we have turned around, and right now we are reaping many benefits of that. Those benefits range from server transfers to a generally happier population.

We have also had the privilege of facing some extremely competent servers. Darkhaven, NSP, and Yak’s bend come to mind but there are others. We have prevailed consistently over the last three weeks, despite several close calls. This has done nothing but add to our already enthusiastic community.

A happier server population, a more confident server population, is always better than a frustrated, demoralized server population. I think that’s why there are so many blowouts and so few close matches.

It’s also interesting that SoR matches have been very close. Our server does not give up, even when we’re down 30,000 points in the first day :p

P.S. To those of you who wonder why some thiefs can turn “invulnerable” when they get low, here’s how it’s done: I run a 0/0/10/30/30 build and SoM for healing. When I hit dagger storm (I use it as a defensive cd) in a large group I can regenerate health VERY rapidly. If I’m being dps’d hard my health will stay around 5k, giving the illusion of “invulnerability” which is reinforce by dodging and generally high endurance regeneration. It isn’t a cheat, it’s just a very specialized, very defense-oriented build.

Gearing is important; toughness, healing power, and condition damage are the primary stats you need. I find glass cannon builds to be fun, but rather bad for PvP combat. That’s just my preference, though, and I’m sure there are plenty of very skilled glass cannons out there.

@ Gosu

Well, its really unfortunate to have to say this but maybe the loss will humble GoM, and you will do well enough in the lower brackets to regain your motivation. Use DH as a shining example. You can only fall so far before climbing back to the top.

However, keep at it. I would love to see what you guys are capable of when full motivated, those who have tried on GoM, my hat’s off to you for putting up a good fight.

Kiamar.1820:

Elthurien, several RvR-focused guilds with a long history together from WAR/DAOC had wanted to join up on the same server, but ended up splitting choices. Tempest Wolves, Irony and most of the DAOC vets chose Jade Quarry while Vigilance, Knight/War Templars and Reveille le Lion decided on SoR to avoid the anticipated queues (and because Fog invited us).

I believe their intent was to get away from the massive queues on Jade Quarry and join up with the rest of us. It has nothing to do with any of the recent successful wins on SoR.

As for balance, it will come through moving up in tiers.

I had to quote this because what was said about the guilds moving from JQ is EXACTLY correct.

I’m sorry you have 30 minute queues now. We came from 2 – 6 + hour queues. To be honest, it’s not exactly fair of someone to say, “GTFO of our server because our queues are so long!” Having 4 servers with 6 + hour queues vs about 9 others with 30 minute queues is silly when all of that can be distributed a bit more evenly across ALL servers.

As for this match playing out as it is…SoR will now move up a tier or 2 (based on EOL). Competition will be different based on who you face next matchup. With all the guilds leaving the T1 servers for lower tiers, you’ll see the competition even out a bit which is a beautiful thing and makes WvW way more fun in the long run. I intend to play this game for the long run with friends and my guild…

@ Juxtapositron

I don’t doubt Mara is correct. I’m sure we’re in the situation you guys have been in the past. But the difference is this: you guys have had great, and humble, leadership to get you back on track to success. GoM is lacking such leadership. Humility is something GoM is apparently allergic to. And when such leadership does arise, it gets “downvoted to hell” (as the reddit expression goes).

@ Mara

It’s not unfortunate at all. In fact I wish the exact same thing. I hope that GoM falls to the tier Kaineng tier, to learn some lessons it should have learned a long time ago about humility, listening to others and open-mindedness. If they will not listen to people, then perhaps life can teach them instead.

Thanks for your wise words Mara.

HEYYYY everyone. GoM rep here.

I will say this: If you press B and our team doesn’t have the highest points per 15 OR highest score, then odds are you won’t see anyone in BL or EB. I, and my guild, will be toting along doing the usual supply disruption for the sake of karma. Unfortunately all of our “Commanders” will be too busy dancing in Lion’s Arch to actually play the game for the week.

Lol what a wonderful server I’m on =P

I’m extremely disappointed by the people on Yaks who are trying to take away from SoR’s win here. They are a solid server who I have much respect for. Sure, they have received some high quality transfers this week and last week, which probably also brought some fair weather transfers along with it. That doesn’t mean they didn’t ‘earn’ their lead. They have a fantastic and healthy attitude concerning WvW. They have some great commanders and some good organization. If we had even numbers it would STILL be a very tough fight for us, I have no doubt of that.

They obviously no longer belong in the mid tier brackets, but I will be rooting for them as they work their way up in to the higher ones. I’m sure all of us were hoping for a close matchup similar to last week, but that’s just how things are until Arena Net does something about free transfers. A server can be vastly different one week to the next. You can’t make excuses though. Yaks came out swinging with an early gambit to hit fast and hard in an attempt to demoralize our enemy… and you know what? That tactic would have probably worked on a number of servers. But SoR is actually KNOWN for their Tenacity… they called our early push and managed to dig out of that. In turn our early gambit demoralized our OWN server, as we lost a commanding lead.

I hope Yaks will use this opportunity to try and refocus our group. I’ve only recently been getting in to WvW myself, but I have no desire to leave Yaks Bend. I feel we have a great bunch of people that actually care about having a fun game and not just a soulless victory. We have a very healthy attitude towards WvW and with some growth we could just as easily be in the same spot SoR is now, running up the brackets.

Anyway… long rambling post. I will miss having SoR in our brackets but I seriously wish them the best. I have as much respect for your server as I do my own.

The game is still young and while I have trouble believing we can make a comeback against SoR’s current advantage, anything can happen. It’s not over till Friday after all

TL;DR – Yaks stop whining… it’s not very becoming. SoR has earned their lead and we should be doing our best to show them we don’t just give up when the chips are down.

At least your commanders are staying busy. I entered last night and our commanders that had logged in . turned off their icons. reason? and I quote
“Why?, it won’t do any good”

gosu.4128:

Eeks.1865:

Yeah, GoM has lost almost all of our WvW guilds over the past month. We can no longer compete with any of the mid-tier worlds. We just don’t have the numbers or the strategy at this point =(

The strategy is there.

The numbers did play a factor, but it wasn’t the only factor.

The biggest factor is this: People mindlessly do things on their own, the (one and only) zerg goes to random places it has not business going, ignoring even commanders, and those who have given any ounce of coordination and strategic thinking.

GoM really has ZERO discipline. None whatsoever. And that is the biggest reason why we’re losing.

No one follow the commanders because these are the commanders we have.

So tell me… do you actually believe that kind of player deserve to be a commander? or any respect of others?

Sorry dude 100g don’t transform anyone in commander. A commander is made be how they can make others ppl hear him.
And at least for me these kinda of commanders are far from what i will follow.

Look the chat. Both these guys are “commanders”

SoR is kind of borging it up. We will have an incredibly close week, adapt, then dominate the next. It’s actually really fun to watch player competence in WvW grow as it has been. For instance: earlier on there was always this awful period of time when we cap SM that the loudest people in chat would yell at people to only focus on defending SM and all of our supply would be gone.

Now, no matter the yelling about SM, there are several groups that keep the supply train going. This week I’ve seen a further evolution of this to containing enemy zergs with relatively smaller numbers by keeping the secondary fights away from our supply chain entirely.

Another example is the vista near Anz. Before when we are trebbed from overlook (SoR is always forest) there would be this compulsion to do suicide squads against the wall. Now we calmly take Anz, put trebs on the vista, and hit overlook from there. As more players become aware of how to do this the behavior becomes more common, obviously.

To a higher tier server this is all basic stuff but seeing the mass understand these systematic approaches is really quite beautiful.

edit – two thoughts: seeing your server unlearn these things must be painful as hell. SoR has been forest so often that I am kind of curious if this is giving us an edge because of how intimately familiar we are with our side.

i applaud munki’s post. while I meant what I have said earlier I will clarify a bit. I take nothing away from SoR’s game play. They did what any competent server did and take advantage of the opportunties OUR server has handed them. Their guilds have worked togther and played a skillful game. Their game play has been offensive while we are being reactionary. I never said they didn’t deserve the lead. In fact I applaud their guild leaders and commanders for taking advatange of our shortcomings and executing their plan. They have worked together as a united front while we still play as fractured teams.

Last week it finally felt like matchmaking was making sense.Then BAM free xfers destroy another week.Making xfers free for so long kind of defeats the purpose of matchmaking.The only evolution i see from SoR is you won this weeks server lotto,the big wave of people could have picked any server throwing the balance off in their favor not yours.GG

vvp.8512:

edit – two thoughts: seeing your server unlearn these things must be painful as hell. SoR has been forest so often that I am kind of curious if this is giving us an edge because of how intimately familiar we are with our side.

To your point here, it can go one of two ways. We suck horribly playing from another spawn… or we do really well as fewer people will be distracted by the grub that spawns.

At least we will still have a solid understanding of the borderlands, as those wont really change. I only see the EB being of issue here. I personally wouldn’t mind playing from one of the other keeps, the forest is getting a bit boring.

As one of the nameless peons on SoR, we do have some very good commanders who are clear about objectives and work together. This was true even before our influx of players. I’m basically as casual as it gets in this game, but the leaders on SoR do a good job of organizing even those like myself that would normally be considered cannon fodder.

SoR you’ve changed!

A shame, because last weeks match up was amazing fun, I’d love to do it like that again & again & again. But free transfers being in effect, rapid balance shifts like this will inevitably happen.

I curse you in game (as your zerg dances upon my lifeless corpse) because you cost me so much silver in repairs the last few days, but I do wish you guys well as you climb the tiers, hopefully you get a worthy challenge next week. I’m hoping Yak’s can go toe to toe with NSP again next match up because last week was great, if things have stayed the same as last week there we are well balanced adversaries.

I don’t blame the guilds from the top tier who saw how much fun YB/SoR/NSP had last week & thought to themselves… DO WANT! And transferred over. If I was stuck in the stagnation and drama of the top tier I probably would have moved too TBH. A shame for us all that it didn’t work out to be another week of the intense close fighting you guys had probably anticipated.

Yak’s does appear to be a bit low on the morale front now – many of our commanders seem a little rattled, as do the troops. But as has been previously posted, there’s the hope that this trouncing will serve to drive us all to play smarter. As for me, I’m fighting nekkid this week, the repair costs of continually being crushed has destroyed my (already unhealthy) budget, I need all my silvers for siege. Near naked Charr – it’s not a good look – but on the upside there’s always the chance that the shock & revulsion the sight provokes in the enemy might just give me some psychological edge. XD

Anyway, it’s not an even match up now, by any stretch, but I’m sure we can all eke some good fights out of it regardless. Perhaps Yak’s might even find some inner steely resolve and push back? One can hope.

I’m gonna use this weeks matchup to stock up on gold/badges/blueprints Fridays reset. SoR or “New Jade Quarry” won this match.

The Irony of calling guilds from the #1 server transferring to SoR is pretty huge…..
Sorry you have 30 minute queues at Prime time. We had 5 Hour queues.

Look at the maps – the balance is off now. Is it fun having nobody to fight for you? With no personal gain incentives the other teams have no reason to come out and play. Top tier = more people, nothing more.

Mindzai.5214:

SoR you’ve changed!

A shame, because last weeks match up was amazing fun, I’d love to do it like that again & again & again. But free transfers being in effect, rapid balance shifts like this will inevitably happen.

I curse you in game (as your zerg dances upon my lifeless corpse) because you cost me so much silver in repairs the last few days, but I do wish you guys well as you climb the tiers, hopefully you get a worthy challenge next week. I’m hoping Yak’s can go toe to toe with NSP again next match up because last week was great, if things have stayed the same as last week there we are well balanced adversaries.

I don’t blame the guilds from the top tier who saw how much fun YB/SoR/NSP had last week & thought to themselves… DO WANT! And transferred over. If I was stuck in the stagnation and drama of the top tier I probably would have moved too TBH. A shame for us all that it didn’t work out to be another week of the intense close fighting you guys had probably anticipated.

Yak’s does appear to be a bit low on the morale front now – many of our commanders seem a little rattled, as do the troops. But as has been previously posted, there’s the hope that this trouncing will serve to drive us all to play smarter. As for me, I’m fighting nekkid this week, the repair costs of continually being crushed has destroyed my (already unhealthy) budget, I need all my silvers for siege. Near naked Charr – it’s not a good look – but on the upside there’s always the chance that the shock & revulsion the sight provokes in the enemy might just give me some psychological edge. XD

Anyway, it’s not an even match up now, by any stretch, but I’m sure we can all eke some good fights out of it regardless. Perhaps Yak’s might even find some inner steely resolve and push back? One can hope.

I myself was hoping for another match like last week. It is very apparent how server transfers can effect the outcome of the game. Yaks Bend lost alot of it oceanic plauers which opened huge slots of time where we can no longer hold what we capture. SoR on the other hand has received some very good guilds from other servers that obviously tipped the balance of power severly. Its all about the numbers and cooperation. Now they are paying a price with very high ques and very little benefit. No fights equal no kharma, badges or personal rewards. Next week may bring a different game altogether.

I don’t think this week had any chance to be balanced ignoring transfers. I hate to pick on GoM but they just don’t have the wvw presence NSP did.

Transfers did ruin a potential 1v1. Oh well. Credit to those transferring since you seem to know your way around WvW. Hope you plan to stay. Don’t take the grumbling too personally. It’s growing pains from not getting a balanced fight like we’ve seen the past 3 weeks. We’ll all just have to wait around a week or so to see how the next matchup will be.

Unless I missed it I don’t see them implementing the guesting system this Halloween update so we have to deal with free transfers for some time to come. It will be interesting to see who sticks around when things get tough and also who sticks around when they find themselves in the same matchups they transferred to get away from :p

@mara

Slow down a bit in advancing… I been working hard to get a rematch with you. You haven’t sent me ur Starbucks account information yet.

-half naked norn

iii.3905:

@mara

Slow down a bit in advancing… I been working hard to get a rematch with you. You haven’t sent me ur Starbucks account information yet.

-half naked norn

Will this rematch involve more Rams?

@ Divinorium

Why are you sorry? I agree with every single word you said.

Unfortunately, one of the commanders (one who is in your screenshot), managed to amass a good 30 body zerg, run around GoM BL capping places in the north, only to hold them for a record of 5 minutes. The commanders are bad, yes, but the zerg that follows them are just as bad, if not worst.

Our goal at the moment is to skip tier 4 completely and push this server to tier 3 next week. <3
We can do it.

What a disappointing week in WvW it seems like. Last weeks close match is what really inspired me to start doing more WvW, but this week when you look at the matchups website for NA, it looks like every single tier is pretty much a one sided stomping.

@gosu

I hope you don’t exist for my entertainment… cause you’re doing as a bad as job of that as capturing stuff in WvW.

this almost boring we winning by over 66k

Walabone.6713:

@gosu

I hope you don’t exist for my entertainment… cause you’re doing as a bad as job of that as capturing stuff in WvW.

LOL. You’re doing a pretty good job of entertaining me with your antics. A+ would read again.

Anyway, to that group of 5 people I rolled with today in SoR Bl capping stuff, it was a good run. We need more parties like this.

winning what? the solo match? congrats

most the yaks gave up and consider this week a wash.Some even jumped ship and left.Congrats on having no one to fight this week lol.Free xfers ftw

Superunknown.4963:

most the yaks gave up and consider this week a wash.Some even jumped ship and left.Congrats on having no one to fight this week lol.Free xfers ftw

Word. Beating guards and doors is very impressive.

i like how GoM and YB are QQing like its our fault you’re useless ship jumpers transfer here… I personally dont want them here either because as soon as we lose there they go. Im not speaking for everyone, but i will speak for myself and say i enjoy playing WvW will the loyal ppl who welcomes CDS when when we first join SoR from SBI, garv, alpaca, Rouge stitch, and CharrCharr :c i dont want to go back to the brackets of spys, no honor hackers, and transfer supply users </3

Bunny be proud of your server, be proud of your guild. I would not suggest being arrogant since your winning a very lopsided battle. Your guild was a transfer granted for different reasons but a transfer nonetheless.

let’s keep updating…

@ Bunnehboo, I like that too, only thing is I haven’t seen a GOM do it yet. Unless I missed it?

Kissbel.3475:

this almost boring we winning by over 66k

Well DUH – when you bring 50+ , a golem and 2 trebs to take a tower from 15 defenders…what do you expect. As others have said…it’s not your fault really – there’s not much the other servers can or will do when logging in all you see is a sea of blue and a useless outnumbered buff.

So…I’ll just hangt around God’s this week, picking off lone SoR who come for the vista. I’m sure that must be frustrasting for them – but them’s the breaks!

kohai. your in a game with only 1 team. GoM and Yaks Bend have nearly 0 paticipation.

Tempest wolves joined SoR? Wow

And the poor sportsmanship begins..

SoR can’t help it that guilds decided to transfer here. Personally I do not like the idea of this massive lead we have, and I honestly wish Yaks and GoM could change that. SoR’s been all about progression, and I believe if we move up too fast it can be detrimental to the server. Slow and steady wins the race.

As for the guilds who have transferred to SoR, I’m glad you’re here. I can finally sleep! However, I hope that you respect what community we have establish on this server and leave any elitism at the door. I also hope you are here to stay, and don’t abandon ship the moment something goes wrong.

@ HNN

I think SoR’s brakes are broken. You’ll have to accelerate a little faster. XD

@Mara

Unfortunately you are going to see people who are a little bitter. Expectations were high on our server for another fun and exciting match. What happened was anything but that. It looked promising for awhile in day 2. I am proud of Yaks coming out swinging on Friday and making a strong effort. I was sadly working myself and couldn’t be a part of that I also think it’s awesome that SoR made such a great comeback.

However, since then it’s very apparent that SoR has an overwhelming numbers advantage right now. It’s not their fault at all… anyone that thinks it is is just being bitter and shortsighted. Yaks is a little frustrated (and I’m sure GoM is too) because every large loss usually means a loss of WvW population as well (from server transfers).

I think etsmith summed it up perfectly; be proud of your guilds, be proud of your server. You guys are top notch opponents and a good community. But don’t be arrogant, because I think all sides involved know that it’s a stomping due to a numbers advantage. If the numbers were closer I’m confident this could have been another top notch match But alas that’s just not how it flies.

I truly hope the upper tiers treat you well. With luck maybe server transfers will get closed down before you have to suffer at the hands of all the underhanded stuff that goes on up there.

/edit/ I just want to be clear… you guys didn’t win just because of numbers. You showed that last week. But you had total domination due to numbers.

Bunnehboo.6025:

i like how GoM and YB are QQing like its our fault you’re useless ship jumpers transfer here… I personally dont want them here either because as soon as we lose there they go. Im not speaking for everyone, but i will speak for myself and say i enjoy playing WvW will the loyal ppl who welcomes CDS when when we first join SoR from SBI, garv, alpaca, Rouge stitch, and CharrCharr :c i dont want to go back to the brackets of spys, no honor hackers, and transfer supply users </3

I don’t remember any GoM qqing though its a big thread, will give you the benefit of the doubt.

As for the situation, GoM has been in freefall since the week long match startup. Losing game after game, until last week. I am not sure how the matchups are calculated, but this just feels wrong. We have never had a night presence, ever, and while “ship jumpers” may have been a problem, I believe the exodus from this server honestly ended after the second weeks loss, with the majority of leavers departing at or before that point. The only problem is, we never really recieved an influx after that.

We still go out, we still fight, take towers and the occaisional keep for an hour or two during prime time, then we go to bed, and wake up to everything being blue, only to repeat the process at prime time again.

Looks like you guys have packed up your lawn chairs and left the stadium. That is the difference. When Yaks was talking all that smack after Friday night/Daturday morning and telling SoR and GoM to duke it out for second, it just added more fuel to a fire that didn’t need it. A lot off people took Friday off to recoup from the amazing week we had. About Noon on Saturday was the beginning of Yaks unraveling. We are dedicated and coordinated. SoR is in it to win it.

SoR dedication and coordination proved in this pic. Not about numbers guys!