Guild Wars 2

Thanks for the response, Snowcrash

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

I hope you guys don’t fire that employee. He might have gotten irritated by their rudeness, but those players were extremely rude and, IMO, deserve at least a 3-day ban.

I hate all of you guys. (The players)

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

I am saying if you gonna host a event on a wvw map you better be prepared for the worst in this case its a dev who could have easily ben killed and stomped. The match could have commenced and life would have gone on but sense said group didn’t outright kill him after repeated warning they let themselves get trolled and here we are now arena net responded people are now sucking up. And this thread will and said comment will be buried and dose anything really get solved i don’t even think common sense was present at this get together or went into planning it.

14 pages of ego’s, assumptions and prejudices, that’s mostly what I see. You’re all being lead from a subject title without basis. I highly doubt anyone watched the video from the beginning. By even telling people to start at the 22:00 minute mark, you’re being mislead because you would be missing the most important part’s.

The Dev popped his tag, not because anyone was GvG’ing, but because the first words whispered to him was curse words! The person in the video should have been banned on the spot for it.

This video is not a good representation of a good guild, good players, or simply good manners. The person in the video is certainly living up to his characters name “Star Instigator”. Which is exactly what he was…

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

DeWolfe.2174:

14 pages of ego’s, assumptions and prejudices, that’s mostly what I see. You’re all being lead from a subject title without basis. I highly doubt anyone watched the video from the beginning. By even telling people to start at the 22:00 minute mark, you’re being mislead because you would be missing the most important part’s.

The Dev popped his tag, not because anyone was GvG’ing, but because the first words whispered to him was curse words! The person in the video should have been banned on the spot for it.

This video is not a good representation of a good guild, good players, or simply good manners. The person in the video is certainly living up to his characters name “Star Instigator”. Which is exactly what he was…

they asked him to move, and he refused too, for no reason other to try and ruin their fun. If i just stand in the middle of a basketball court while people are trying to play, i can expect some harsh words too

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

I am saying if you gonna host a event on a wvw map you better be prepared for the worst in this case its a dev who could have easily ben killed and stomped. The match could have commenced and life would have gone on but sense said group didn’t outright kill him after repeated warning they let themselves get trolled and here we are now arena net responded people are now sucking up. And this thread will and said comment will be buried and dose anything really get solved i don’t even think common sense was present at this get together or went into planning it.

So what you’re saying is this Anet Dev should be allowed to harass this community within our Gw2 community?

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

I will either A call the police or B sit and in that moment i will do A asap and not wait like a fool like this GvG group did.

Anyone who keeps posting here after the Dev’s answer is in for trolling and venting frustrations that were accumulated over months.

It was a PR damage control post, but quite convincing and seems genuine. Little more you could ask for. Now go back to your holes. I want Khelven to keep on playing on SBI – he’s a player just like me, trying to enjoy a game and having emotional reactions. I sure hope he’s not punished for a human mistake. I’ve made plenty of mistakes in my life and was forgiven a lot of times.

Next time I see him in WvW I’ll invite him to join my party.

if i was there and i didn’t want to leave the place and joined the gvg battle would you have report me?and if yes for what?

Its funny because in LoL when players started playing All Random All Mid (A community made game format), the Riot developers didnt come and say “WOW I CANT BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY WE WANT YOU TO!”

Instead they actually sat down looked at what the players were doing then actually MADE the game format called “ARAM” which is exactly what the players had wanted.

Not only did Riot not hate, they observed and provided. This is why Riot are simply a much better development company than you Anet, and this is why your game will never be E-sports and your wvw is destined to fail. You have a stupid vision, and you try to impose it on us when we simply know better than you.

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

I am saying if you gonna host a event on a wvw map you better be prepared for the worst in this case its a dev who could have easily ben killed and stomped. The match could have commenced and life would have gone on but sense said group didn’t outright kill him after repeated warning they let themselves get trolled and here we are now arena net responded people are now sucking up. And this thread will and said comment will be buried and dose anything really get solved i don’t even think common sense was present at this get together or went into planning it.

So what you’re saying is this Anet Dev should be allowed to harass this community within our Gw2 community?

He would not have hurrassed if they would have just disposed of him but they didn’t they allowed him to continue by not dealing with him if i were on the opposing team i would have ganked him up and down the wall and not let him wast my time did the group in question ask the player of the other team to do something at the moment he started talking no they let it happen.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Kai.9182:

The real issue is an Anet employee discriminating against a community within Guild Wars 2 for absolutely no reason.

a community which is griefing the players who want to play the mode as intended. Anet already mentioned that they are working on ways GvG can be implemented. People who ignore this are just stupid.

Devs have also stated that the GvG projects were all scrapped.

Also, “griefing the players who want to play the mode as intended”? How? By taking up 15-20 slots in a strategically unimportant place for an hour? Oh, the humanity. Let’s just ban them all.

While we’re at it, let’s ban all karma trains, crafters, afk players at spawn, and anyone in the jumping puzzles. They’re not contributing to the almighty PPT, therefore they’re all scum.

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

I am saying if you gonna host a event on a wvw map you better be prepared for the worst in this case its a dev who could have easily ben killed and stomped. The match could have commenced and life would have gone on but sense said group didn’t outright kill him after repeated warning they let themselves get trolled and here we are now arena net responded people are now sucking up. And this thread will and said comment will be buried and dose anything really get solved i don’t even think common sense was present at this get together or went into planning it.

So what you’re saying is this Anet Dev should be allowed to harass this community within our Gw2 community?

He would not have hurrassed if they would have just disposed of him but they didn’t they allowed him to continue by not dealing with him if i were on the opposing team i would have ganked him up and down the wall and not let him wast my time dey the group in question ask the player of the other team to do something at the moment he started talking no they let it happen.

So the players here are forced to dispose of the Anet Dev because his actions are interfering with their community event. So it is okay? You dodged the question.

Jackie.1829:

Its funny because in LoL when players started playing All Random All Mid (A community made game format), the Riot developers didnt come and say “WOW I CANT BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME THE WAY WE WANT YOU TO!”

Instead they actually sat down looked at what the players were doing then actually MADE the game format called “ARAM” which is exactly what the players had wanted.

Not only did Riot not hate, they observed and provided. This is why Riot are simply a much better development company than you Anet, and this is why your game will never be E-sports and your wvw is destined to fail. You have a stupid vision, and you try to impose it on us when we simply know better than you.

bad example as it took them over 2 and a half years to put the format in the game. RIOT employees have been caught abusing their customers on multiple occasions as well (and the employee’s were reprimanded/fired over it). Anet is currently doing ‘better’ by your metric as were only 1 year in, and only 6 months after GvG has become ‘popular’.

Very nice / professional post from Anet Chris Whiteside. I hope the words will be followed by action and the GvG scene can make large scale competitive GW2 a success, it doesnt have to be on the cost of Spvp because those 2 groups hardly overlap. Anyone who ever watched a GvG knows this is where some awesome competitive team game is at, i hope GvG has a bright future after necessary adaptions are made by Anet. Also hope to read more soon about what are the plans to support this game mode and Anet acknowleding this is a popular thing in GW2 and hope it will be be much more popular with the help of Anet. Also hope from the GvG people they stop acting like gangsters when it comes to communicating with the enterprise about the needs of their customers

Lol. This was the worst thing I’ve seen so far about this game. I hope this will speed up development about GvG.

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

Draygo.9473:

bad example as it took them over 2 and a half years to put the format in the game. RIOT employees have been caught abusing their customers on multiple occasions as well (and the employee’s were reprimanded/fired over it). Anet is currently doing ‘better’ by your metric as were only 1 year in, and only 6 months after GvG has become ‘popular’.

2.5 years from game launch, not 2.5 years from when aram got popular. I dont know about employees abusing customers, thats an open statement, I am sure I could find many examples of Anet doing the same if we are talking on an individual basis.

We are 6 months in from GvG and Anet have been actively working to ruin it via orbs, and negative PR. Riot never did that.

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

So it’s acceptable for this person to harass a community as long it is within the law?

Go outside and get some fresh air.

All of you.

again is forbidden to play wvw because you GvGing?

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

So it’s acceptable for this person to harass a community as long it is within the law?

As long as it’s within the ToS/T&C yes. Not that this would qualify as harassment, he is occupying space, that is all.

Sending him whispers telling him to **** off etc however would come much closer to harassment than what he was doing.

Jackie.1829:

Draygo.9473:

bad example as it took them over 2 and a half years to put the format in the game. RIOT employees have been caught abusing their customers on multiple occasions as well (and the employee’s were reprimanded/fired over it). Anet is currently doing ‘better’ by your metric as were only 1 year in, and only 6 months after GvG has become ‘popular’.

2.5 years from game launch, not 2.5 years from when aram got popular. I dont know about employees abusing customers, thats an open statement, I am sure I could find many examples of Anet doing the same if we are talking on an individual basis.

We are 6 months in from GvG and Anet have been actively working to ruin it via orbs, and negative PR. Riot never did that.

There were several changes to SR that hurt ARAM before aram was introduced as a mode for pvp – major changes that affected ARAM was the minion changes that caused towers to fall much faster. Anet isn’t changing WvW with consideration for GvG’s they are changing WvW for the sake of WvW. Riot didn’t change SR for the sake of ARAM, they changed SR for the sake of SR.

Its easy to gloss over all the miss-steps a company makes when the end result is what the community wants. RIOT has had some quite awful employee blowups, anet isn’t immune to that.

Also Season 1 started on July 13th 2010. The game has been out for over 3 years. ARAM started getting real popular around 2.5 years ago, my post is correct. I do suggest you look up your facts before posting them here.

The keys are to publicly state that whatever blowingup employee did was wrong, appropriate action will be taken against said employee. This has been done.

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

So it’s acceptable for this person to harass a community as long it is within the law?

As long as it’s within the ToS/T&C yes. Not that this would qualify as harassment, he is occupying space, that is all.

Sending him whispers telling him to **** off etc however would come much closer to harassment than what he was doing.

*You don’t qualify it as harassment

Judging by the amount of frowning, people aren’t exactly accepting it, including another Anet employee who has already posted an apology in this thread.

Radioactive.1248:

Sorry that this “name and shames”. I tried to edit but I’m woefully bad at doing so. Anyways, here is some screenshot of an ANET employee kind of being a jerk to us who were GvGing. Hopefully I don’t get infracted, but I imagine it’s coming.

Enjoy,
http://imgur.com/a/mhYp4

For anyone who calls “taken out of context”, I have a full 45 minute video to give you the entire backdrop of the situation.

I don’t think he should’ve been ifracted for posting this. I also believe the dev with the kitten poor customer service skills should be apologizing, not Chris W.

I don’t think this thread is necessary at all. I’m sure everyone wants to play the game however they find the most joy out of it, that includes ANet players. He did express his displeasure at what was taking place though I highly doubt he understood exactly what we were doing there. It also didn’t take more then 5 minutes for him to get the message and move out of the way. As for players being rude, its really just a build-up of multiple disruptions from 3rd parties that find joy in… well making other people mad(i.e. Trolls). If you watch the video of the full GvG you’ll notice that there are a lot of randoms that intentionally and unintentionally disrupt the event. If these same ppl find that GvG’s are taking up space in WvW why then go and intentionally disrupt it making it last twice as long as it would have initially? I highly doubt our GvG woulda lasted longer then 1 tick if it just went smoothly with no interruptions, and I highly doubt we’d be doing one if the macth-up was balanced.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

I wanted to comment about the incident that happened recently in-game, surrounding some negative community interaction from a member of the ArenaNet staff.

Simply put a big mistake was made by one of our employees, for which he is both very upset and sorry. He allowed his personal feelings to affect his interactions in-game whilst representing ArenaNet, and this is absolutely unacceptable.

Like all players, we are human, and all have our opinions on the game. However these opinions should never disrupt other player’s enjoyment of the things they love. On top of this we have worked very hard to create a community that is respectful to one another, and for this behavior to have occurred while a developer is representing ArenaNet is doubly saddening.

We all cherish the opportunity to play with the community, and we absolutely rely on you all for in game feedback, and personally I hope that this incident does not hamper what has so far been an amazing relationship and opportunity for us all.

I would therefore like to sincerely apologize for this behavior on behalf of our staff member. We are taking steps to address the incident and for his part, he is very sorry for behaving in the manner in which he did.

Regarding Guild game play, please understand it is extremely important to us, and an area we are paying a great deal of attention to, so please do be patient with the developers who work tirelessly on making WvW the very best it can be, they have a great deal of respect for you all, and value your collaboration in pushing this pioneering mode forward. Also please note this member of staff is not on the WvW team.

Finally, World vs. World is a free-for-all battle. Our expectation of staff is that they should be playing, and enjoying the game like everyone else, and not being disruptive or disrespectful to others.

And in this spirit I hope we can move forward, and continue, what has up to this point, been a great community/developer relationship. One that I know our team massively values and loves.

Thank you all for your time and i hope you have a lovely weekend,

ChrisW

Thank you. That should be good enough for anyone. Even calls GvG pioneers.

Done here.

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

I am saying if you gonna host a event on a wvw map you better be prepared for the worst in this case its a dev who could have easily ben killed and stomped. The match could have commenced and life would have gone on but sense said group didn’t outright kill him after repeated warning they let themselves get trolled and here we are now arena net responded people are now sucking up. And this thread will and said comment will be buried and dose anything really get solved i don’t even think common sense was present at this get together or went into planning it.

So what you’re saying is this Anet Dev should be allowed to harass this community within our Gw2 community?

He would not have hurrassed if they would have just disposed of him but they didn’t they allowed him to continue by not dealing with him if i were on the opposing team i would have ganked him up and down the wall and not let him wast my time dey the group in question ask the player of the other team to do something at the moment he started talking no they let it happen.

So the players here are forced to dispose of the Anet Dev because his actions are interfering with their community event. So it is okay? You dodged the question.

Your comparing real life to a game were a whole different set of rules apply let see can you sit outside a fort and beat drums yes do i have have to like what your doing no can i come out and kill your toon in game for disturbing my peace with your drum emote yes i can is it against game law no its not. the things is you cant use real life instances in game if they didn’t like him interfering with their GvG they should have just killed him it was well within their power and in their rights to do so.

alcopaul.2156:

so how do you classify the WvWvW community now?

1.) The PvD, PPT, Arrowcart, Karma Trainers (Blobbed into the General WvWvW)
2.) The Roamers (sPvPers mostly)
3.) The GvGers (Group fights, vanguard of Open Field fights usually)

1.) is about Rewards (i.e. Knocking gates give WXP, PPT-Top Server Having High Bonuses/Server Pride etc)
2.) is about individual skill
3.) is about group skill, Guild Pride

You forgot a category of havoc teams, up to 5 people that run together and work very kitten teamplay, but on a smaller scale than GvG and that like to harass zergs and ninja stuff.

Apart from that, I agree to the list, 1) being least respectable and 2 & 3 usually skill-ful and experienced players, basically the best PvP players in the game.

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

So it’s acceptable for this person to harass a community as long it is within the law?

As long as it’s within the ToS/T&C yes. Not that this would qualify as harassment, he is occupying space, that is all.

Sending him whispers telling him to **** off etc however would come much closer to harassment than what he was doing.

*You don’t qualify it as harassment

Judging by the amount of frowning, people aren’t exactly accepting it, including another Anet employee who has already posted an apology in this thread.

The Anet reply is just simple damage control like what any other mmo developer would do if they got wrapped up in a controversy again i will say they could or could not be punishing him but this wall of text clearly has done what its meant to be done calm the masses or the majority of them who will not complain further on the matter and only wished for a i am sorry by the devs.

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

I am saying if you gonna host a event on a wvw map you better be prepared for the worst in this case its a dev who could have easily ben killed and stomped. The match could have commenced and life would have gone on but sense said group didn’t outright kill him after repeated warning they let themselves get trolled and here we are now arena net responded people are now sucking up. And this thread will and said comment will be buried and dose anything really get solved i don’t even think common sense was present at this get together or went into planning it.

So what you’re saying is this Anet Dev should be allowed to harass this community within our Gw2 community?

He would not have hurrassed if they would have just disposed of him but they didn’t they allowed him to continue by not dealing with him if i were on the opposing team i would have ganked him up and down the wall and not let him wast my time dey the group in question ask the player of the other team to do something at the moment he started talking no they let it happen.

So the players here are forced to dispose of the Anet Dev because his actions are interfering with their community event. So it is okay? You dodged the question.

Your comparing real life to a game were a whole different set of rules apply let see can you sit outside a fort and beat drums yes do i have have to like what your doing no can i come out and kill your toon in game for disturbing my peace with your drum emote yes i can is it against game law no its not. the things is you cant use real life instances in game if they didn’t like him interfering with their GvG they should have just killed him it was well within their power and in their rights to do so.

This game is real life for him, it’s his job. He went out of his way turn on his Anet tag and disrupt and ruin the fun for others for no reason.
To be honest it wouldn’t matter if it was in a virtual world or not, the emotions and actions of individuals are all real. It’s talking like that which sets back technological advances because of people who can’t understand that humans ethics still apply.

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Neandramathal.9536:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

Kai.9182:

So now you’re talking about a community event which directly affects the game play of WvW.
These people were in the middle of nowhere, hurting nobody and yet they deserve to be harassed by some random employee who doesn’t even work in this department of the game?

If its a large community event then they should have had taken steps to prevent player grieving they let a single Dev Derails there whole event instead of just killing him right then and there and i just don’t mean striking him a few times to make him go away red=dead specially if said person was ignoring the players he should not have ben treated any differently even with a tag.

This event was held in the middle of nowhere, a barren wasteland further south than the southern most camp in each of the borderlands. Anyone attending this area goes right out of there way to get there and that’s exactly what this person did. Went out of his way to go and disrupt a community event.

Why should they have to kill people when they can just make their intentions clear of what is going on, and then that person can participate as a spectator?

With the intentions of the person in question, I think it is quite important to note that they are a part of Anet. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Dev response about the subject.

A typical unemotional text response is best choice of action do we know said player is being punished no we don’t even if he said it in text. Even if the event is in the middle of no were if your gonna have a event between two groups of people and an organized one at that you take step to insure things like this do not happen this could have easily ben avoided if both parties in question had Bouncers to kill off unruly player conduct.

So what you’re saying is if I host a basketball game between some of my friends and some of yours we need to hire a whole bunch of security to defend us from XYZ?

Do you own/rent the space in which you are doing it? If so then there is no need to ‘secure’ it. However with these GvG’s you have no extra ownership over the space you are occupying than anyone else present. If you don’t want people there you kill them or move elsewhere.

You have no right to tell people where they can and can’t go, no matter where you are holding this event.

So if I blow a horn outside your house on public property within the legal hours you won’t mind?

If it is within the law. I can object to it all I want but unless the police deem it worth doing something about, I can do nothing. However this bears no relation to what has happened here.

You see, this, no matter how attached to it you may feel, is a game. The rules are different in this place, and as long as what you do is within the terms and conditions aka laws, no one can stop you. This both means I can’t insist you stop your GvG, and you can’t insist I moves out of the way. However if either side was to have the advantage in the incident that occured, it is his because yours can be pushed into the realm of the T&C/ToS.

The difference with your analogy and the game situation, is that if I don’t like you doing it I can’t come out and shoot you through the face with a shotgun to make you go away, because that would be against the law. However in the game you can go and kill the player who was in the way and voila, problem is solved.

So it’s acceptable for this person to harass a community as long it is within the law?

As long as it’s within the ToS/T&C yes. Not that this would qualify as harassment, he is occupying space, that is all.

Sending him whispers telling him to **** off etc however would come much closer to harassment than what he was doing.

*You don’t qualify it as harassment

Judging by the amount of frowning, people aren’t exactly accepting it, including another Anet employee who has already posted an apology in this thread.

The Anet reply is just simple damage control like what any other mmo developer would do if they got wrapped up in a controversy again i will say they could or could not be punishing him but this wall of text clearly has done what its meant to be done calm the masses or the majority of them who will not complain further on the matter and only wished for a i am sorry by the devs.

The use of my quote in this statement is purely to help this individual understand. To be honest I personally don’t find it acceptable. It happens, but it isn’t acceptable in any way shape or form.

oh god.the whole thread is a stab in my heart.faith in humanity totally lost…seriously too much whining.

come on guys, that Anet guy is only human, he’s allowed to have opinions as well and in his defence, he was getting heavily flamed.

aaron.7850:

didnt you hear? guild wars are not allowed in guild wars 2

Not sure why folks call 2 fixed sized zerg fighting each other gvg. Look up gvg in gw1 and take note what gvg actually is

ArkAngel.7940:

I hate all of you guys. (The players)

Their message is they want gvg, their rage is over 9000…and their so…angry…can’t…look…directly…at…them…(blinded by super nova of rage)

It’s almost like a WvW zerg, and that anet dev is one dude at the door looking down at a horde of angry enemy world combatants hellbent on destroying him, his door, and his poodle.

I genuinely feel bad for him. Not his poodle though…she had it coming.

Kai.9182:

So the players further south than south camp are giving you a hard time?

People who blindly accept corporate promises are worse than that.

yes, because they take the space for other people who want to play the game as intended. I don’t say everyone who enjoys GvG is like this, some of the players might wait till the servers aren’t full so no harm here. On the other hand there are people who GvG when servers are quite full… that’s when I talk about griefing.

RoRo.8270:

aaron.7850:

didnt you hear? guild wars are not allowed in guild wars 2

Not sure why folks call 2 fixed sized zerg fighting each other gvg. Look up gvg in gw1 and take note what gvg actually is

as the folk here says the gvg in gw1 was 8vs8.at some point i think it went 12vs12 but not so sure.
and as i said earlier if i was around you would report me?and for what?for playing the game?

Bunta.5267:

ArkAngel.7940:

I hate all of you guys. (The players)

Their message is they want gvg, their rage is over 9000…and their so…angry…can’t…look…directly…at…them…(blinded by super nova of rage)

It’s almost like a WvW zerg, and that anet dev is one dude at the door looking down at a horde of angry enemy world combatants hellbent on destroying him, his door, and his poodle.

I genuinely feel bad for him. Not his poodle though…she had it coming.

Hahahahhahah I love you.

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Kai.9182:

So the players further south than south camp are giving you a hard time?

People who blindly accept corporate promises are worse than that.

yes, because they take the space for other people who want to play the game as intended. I don’t say everyone who enjoys GvG is like this, some of the players might wait till the servers aren’t full so no harm here. On the other hand there are people who GvG when servers are quite full… that’s when I talk about griefing.

Well let’s keep this thread on topic which is about the interference with the community event, which was a GvG. Plenty of other GvG threads to talk about xyz, but yes that can be frustrating. Looking at the PPT it was not the case here. In fact it looks like both sides were bored/frustrated with their current play and how this scene evolved in the first place.

This will probably drown in the amount of comments but I’ll try regardless:

Chris, you stated that the Anet employee was in the wrong. Then why did the OP get infracted for his post? This doesn’t add up.

Silent Shino.7239:

come on guys, that Anet guy is only human, he’s allowed to have opinions as well and in his defence, he was getting heavily flamed.

He did it while representing Anet, if he felt attacked he should have handled it in a professional manner, logged off and taken the proper steps to solve the problem. Whether that is to issue warning, suspend, ban, or report the players action to the appropriate team to handle.

Sure its nice that Chris came here to try and put out the fire, I respect him for that, but its not really his place to apologize for the actions of another is it. Being human is not a license for ignorance.

“I hope we can move forward, and continue, what has up to this point, been a great community/developer relationship.”

Why the unnecessary spin??
I think a lot of us could just shrug this off honestly…. But why the snowjob at the end?
We all know things have NOT been great with this “relationship”, otherwise this never would have reached a boiling point in the first place. We finally get an honest opinion from what one Dev really thinks, and Marketing/Skinnerbox d00de drops in here to cover it all up.

If Anet themselves can’t have an honest dialog with it’s oldest players about its game design (like it USED TO with the old State-of-the-Games), then there’s no hope that ANY STUDIO will…. Extremely diappointed by this. And by that, I don’t mean the incident, I mean the total Disconnect here. Ticked off player will eventually come back, “Losing all Hope” players won’t.

I still find it funny how people are complaining about a guy doing what he wanted to do inside their mini-game, while they were doing the same thing – on a bigger scale

In this case, i’m on the side of the developer.

I’m convinced all the anti-GvG people are casual WvWers who only play once or twice a week. They clearly have no idea how often the GvG guilds play.

Spira.4578:

I still find it funny how people are complaining about a guy doing what he wanted to do inside their mini-game, while they were doing the same thing – on a bigger scale

In this case, i’m on the side of the developer.

Your again missing the point that an Anet employee used his tag as a means of trying to project himself over the GvG and troll.