Guild Wars 2

Keep the old achievements.

Add new achievements that are the same as the old achievements, but are repeatable like the repeatable salvage achievement. (example: 5 points for every 100 SM captures). Tweak the numbers so that they are fair and cap them so they have limits, which limits the damage of any abuse.

Done.

(Also add an achievement tied to WvW rank).

nekretaal.6485:

Keep the old achievements.

Add new achievements that are the same as the old achievements, but are repeatable like the repeatable salvage achievement. (example: 5 points for every 100 SM captures). Tweak the numbers so that they are fair and cap them so they have limits, which limits the damage of any abuse.

Done.

(Also add an achievement tied to WvW rank).

No they should fix the old achievements instead of making repeatable ones. So people can actually earn the titles and such.

In my experience, the achievement system just isn’t a thing for WvW, and that’s just fine with all concerned.

I don’t even know why I typed this. Apathy abounds.

Svarty.8019:

In my experience, the achievement system just isn’t a thing for WvW, and that’s just fine with all concerned.

I don’t even know why I typed this. Apathy abounds.

It should become a thing. I am sure it would at the very least revive WvW on the high PvE low WvW population servers.

Give people achievement multipliers based upon server loyalty.
you’ve been on a server for 2 months? earn 1 completion for each dolyak escort – been there two years earn 10 for each…..
Makes use of the existing achievement and rewards server loyalty. May even discourage AP/Title hunters from server hopping.

Nidome.1365:

Give people achievement multipliers based upon server loyalty.
you’ve been on a server for 2 months? earn 1 completion for each dolyak escort – been there two years earn 10 for each…..
Makes use of the existing achievement and rewards server loyalty. May even discourage AP/Title hunters from server hopping.

Sever loyality is nonsense. Noone should feel force to have to stay on one server if they do not like it there anymore.

I too have been waiting for this…

/bump

Zadarh.1932:

I too have been waiting for this…

/bump

The wait is killing me, I am running out of achievements to do :p

Offair.2563:

Sekai.2987:

maybe they will finaly admit that the achivments are unrealistic and change them with the expansion #thedream

Devon already admitted these achievements are unrealistic and theyre looking in to it and maybe come with a fix. Been said 8-9 months ago.

I bumped a thread when we passed the yearly mark, and that was like 6-8 months ago at least. I think they’ve acknowledge this 2 years ago.

Could just remove achievements from the game. I would be okay with that.

styx.7294:

Could just remove achievements from the game. I would be okay with that.

To me that would be even worse than doing nothing

Malediktus.3740:

styx.7294:

Could just remove achievements from the game. I would be okay with that.

To me that would be even worse than doing nothing

Hahaha, fair enough. I’m just not a fan of achievements in games in general. They influence behaviour and people don’t need gold stars every time they take a kitten.

styx.7294:

Malediktus.3740:

styx.7294:

Could just remove achievements from the game. I would be okay with that.

To me that would be even worse than doing nothing

Hahaha, fair enough. I’m just not a fan of achievements in games in general. They influence behaviour and people don’t need gold stars every time they take a kitten.

Without achievements I probably wouldnt be at 8k hours played :p

Malediktus.3740:

styx.7294:

Malediktus.3740:

styx.7294:

Could just remove achievements from the game. I would be okay with that.

To me that would be even worse than doing nothing

Hahaha, fair enough. I’m just not a fan of achievements in games in general. They influence behaviour and people don’t need gold stars every time they take a kitten.

Without achievements I probably wouldnt be at 8k hours played :p

You and I have very different personality types! =)

(Which is fine, hahaha)

The main problem from my point of view is that they have no intermediate titles as in GW1 – just think about the Luxon/Kurzick track … lots of intermediate titles between starting out and Saviour … why only all-or-nothing in GW2???

HtFde.3856:

The main problem from my point of view is that they have no intermediate titles as in GW1 – just think about the Luxon/Kurzick track … lots of intermediate titles between starting out and Saviour … why only all-or-nothing in GW2???

I assume because the GW2 achievement system only allows for one title and reward box per achievement track. They would have to split each achievement into several achievements or rework the entire achievement system. Both sounds like more work than reducing the current values to something realistic.

they could split it up the way the PvP kills achievement are split up. But removing the achievement or lowering the numbers needed would be bad. There are people out there who I believe have legitimately completed some of these achievements.

Nate.3927:

they could split it up the way the PvP kills achievement are split up. But removing the achievement or lowering the numbers needed would be bad. There are people out there who I believe have legitimately completed some of these achievements.

Noone completed any of the achievements except Ultimate Dominator (250k kills).

Making no changes to the achievements in wvw for so long (since start of game) just shows how little they know or care about wvw in general.

Victory.2879:

Making no changes to the achievements in wvw for so long (since start of game) just shows how little they know or care about wvw in general.

True, hopefully they will suprise us in the expansion

Still no word from anet
/bump

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Actually the Devs already responded to this in a YouTube post.

Here is the link

http://youtu.be/WlP0m39xdI0

Svarty.8019:

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WvW matchups are not intended to be balanced

I often look at achievements in this game and wonder what in the world the employees were thinking, but mostly I wonder if they were sober when they wrote them.

Celtic Lady.3729:

I often look at achievements in this game and wonder what in the world the employees were thinking, but mostly I wonder if they were sober when they wrote them.

It drives people into cheating. I know at least 1 person in the top 10 achievements who farms WvW achievements with at least 2 accounts. Eg. he shoots with treb on SM on one account, then repairs the wall with his main account. Or he afks infront of keeps with guardian staff skill 4 on auto cast to buff dolyaks and get dolyak escorts.

Malediktus.3740:

Celtic Lady.3729:

I often look at achievements in this game and wonder what in the world the employees were thinking, but mostly I wonder if they were sober when they wrote them.

It drives people into cheating. I know at least 1 person in the top 10 achievements who farms WvW achievements with at least 2 accounts. Eg. he shoots with treb on SM on one account, then repairs the wall with his main account. Or he afks infront of keeps with guardian staff skill 4 on auto cast to buff dolyaks and get dolyak escorts.

Yea… But most people are not that concerned with AP… Personally I think the whole AP leaderboard leads to cheating.

Dasenthal.6520:

Malediktus.3740:

Celtic Lady.3729:

I often look at achievements in this game and wonder what in the world the employees were thinking, but mostly I wonder if they were sober when they wrote them.

It drives people into cheating. I know at least 1 person in the top 10 achievements who farms WvW achievements with at least 2 accounts. Eg. he shoots with treb on SM on one account, then repairs the wall with his main account. Or he afks infront of keeps with guardian staff skill 4 on auto cast to buff dolyaks and get dolyak escorts.

Yea… But most people are not that concerned with AP… Personally I think the whole AP leaderboard leads to cheating.

I actually like the leaderboards, but the same person who does this WvW achievement cheating is also account sharing and Anet doesnt do anything about it.

Malediktus.3740:

Dasenthal.6520:

Malediktus.3740:

Celtic Lady.3729:

I often look at achievements in this game and wonder what in the world the employees were thinking, but mostly I wonder if they were sober when they wrote them.

It drives people into cheating. I know at least 1 person in the top 10 achievements who farms WvW achievements with at least 2 accounts. Eg. he shoots with treb on SM on one account, then repairs the wall with his main account. Or he afks infront of keeps with guardian staff skill 4 on auto cast to buff dolyaks and get dolyak escorts.

Yea… But most people are not that concerned with AP… Personally I think the whole AP leaderboard leads to cheating.

I actually like the leaderboards, but the same person who does this WvW achievement cheating is also account sharing and Anet doesnt do anything about it.

I don’t want to sound rude, but Mal you’re not exactly “most” people. I’m sure you have more than 3X the AP I do (played actively since launch) because your play style leads you to AP hunt and therefore look at the leaderboard for AP. In the same way that if we had a leaderboard for solo roamers (how many people killed, camps taken, fastest cap, etc.) I would be interested. (Not critizing BTW, just 2 different play styles is all)

I’ll be brutally honest, it doesn’t matter to 90% of the player base who has the most AP or how they got there. Most people just like being given free stuff when they finish their daily or finish leveling a craft and that’s where their concern about AP ends.

I would bet money more people care about AP leaderboard than your roamer kills.

You’d be right, but that doesn’t mean either one of us have (or would have) a lot of people who care about the leaderboards. My point was simply that the people who care about the AP leaderboard have a number not a %, same with Spvp, if you’re one of the “average” Joes you probably aren’t striving to become number 1 (especially in AP, because it is actually possible in Spvp).

Oh, and your comparing apples to oranges.
You’re absolutely right more people care about AP leaderboards as a whole than my roamer kills, but I would be willing to take your bet that more people care about roaming leaderboards than AP boards.

Your last paragraph doesnt make much sense to me, but ok :p

WvW achievements should be easier to acquire; however, they shouldn’t be too easy. The best case I can make is how easy it is to acquire Dragon in PvP as well as the achievements that go with them.

Wolfey.3407:

WvW achievements should be easier to acquire; however, they shouldn’t be too easy. The best case I can make is how easy it is to acquire Dragon in PvP as well as the achievements that go with them.

Indeed they should not be to easy. But most are nearly impossible to reach, unless you focus one of them 24/7 for a couple of years.

Wolfey.3407:

WvW achievements should be easier to acquire; however, they shouldn’t be too easy. The best case I can make is how easy it is to acquire Dragon in PvP as well as the achievements that go with them.

My suggested values would take longer than r80 in pvp. I reached r80 very long ago, but still do not meet all my suggested values.

Agreed with what you guys are saying.

Personally, I think removing the last tier on every achievement is fair and reasonable.
E.g. 100k dolyaks vs 500k dolyaks

That would still be way too much. I probably spent 3000 hours or so in WvW already and I didnt even flip 500x SM yet despite spending most my time there. Let alone 5000x SM. I have seen weeks where we owned SM 3 days straight…

10k dolyaks, 1k Stonemist castle etc should be the absolute maximum for the achievements. Anything more is pretty much unrealistic and still way out of line compared to any other achievement category.

Malediktus.3740:

10k dolyaks, 1k Stonemist castle etc should be the absolute maximum for the achievements. Anything more is pretty much unrealistic and still way out of line compared to any other achievement category.

No thx, 10k is nothing, I already have 24k dolyaks, maybe make it 50k for the title, these titles should always be very rare, that is the nature of WvW titles, they are more exclusive than any others, and I would like to see them stay that way.

You play on a server ranked 15. Its much easier to get Dolyak kills on dead servers like that. I play WvW for hours a day currently and I rarely get more 10 Dolyak kills per day. Granted I am not actively hunting them because I take part in all areas of WvW, but there are so many other people around that its hard to get many Dolyak kills.
You should get off your unrealistic expectations for WvW achievements, just because you already went above and beyond 99.9%+ of the WvW player will ever each. WvW is only a small part of GW2 so completing them should not take longer than all other achievements of the game combined.

Playing on a server ranked 15 also makes it harder to get titles like ultimate dominator, since we don’t have the t1 blobs which make that title easier to get, but I’m not complaining, I will get it when I get it.
I don’t have unrealistic expectations of WvW achievements, I just want them to be difficult, unlike 95% of all other achievements in this game, It seems to me all you care about is getting achievement points and it would suit you for them to be easily obtainable, but I would rather there be some prestige in obtaining the titles, and I disagree, WvW is not a small part of GW2, for many players its the ONLY part of GW2 that they play the game for.

For a small portion of players. For Anet its a meaningless part of GW2 if you look at how much effort they spend on WvW compared to the rest of the game.

I’m sure Anet would disagree with your statement that its a meaningless game type for them. Seriously, I can’t take you seriously….
I Wont be posting any further replys since you are clearly delusional and I would be wasting my time.

Vavume.8065:

I’m sure Anet would disagree with your statement that its a meaningless game type for them. Seriously, I can’t take you seriously….
I Wont be posting any further replys since you are clearly delusional and I would be wasting my time.

I could say the same about you.

I think its very painful to play 10h without seeing even 1% progress to any of the achievements. (100% * 10 hours =1000h). Most are less than 0.1% per 10 hours

WvW Achievements need to get fixed finally.
I don#t see, whats so freaking hard about it, to change just some numbers in the program code for those Achievements?

That Anet can change WvW Achievements, have they already proven a very long time ago with the achievements Realm Defender *, which requires after its change just laughable 10 Supply spent for an immediate increase of 15 AP !!!, where before of its change it would have needed alot more.. same with *Master of Disaster

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/arenanet-tracker/topic/275259-realm-defender-master-of-disaster/

Official Statement of Josh Davis there, that it was an intended change of one of cough other following “steps” of changing the achievements basically and when he talks about the “first step”, one can only assume, that more are to follow, but sadly MORE we haven’t seen since then several years ago >.>
His posting was from 2013!!!!!!

SO Anet is CLEARLY able like I suggested already several times, just to change the numbers in the program codes for their achievements at any time to reduce the numbers to a niveau, thats humanly possible to do in a lifetime.

However, some of the achievements shouldn#t just be only reduced in their numbers for their ranks, but they should receive also alot more ranks to feel more rewarding plus get their mechanics changed on how they give you credits towards those achievements.

Repair Master for example is such an achievement, that should get several Changes:

1) Rename it to “War Crafter”
2) Reduce the required amount from 1 Million used Supply to maximum 100000 used Supply
3) Increase its Ranks from 5 to 10 (1,5,10,15,25) to (1,3,5,10,15,20,25,30,40,50)
4) Add more Ways for how used Supply gets credited, not only for repairing walls/supply generators, but also for building up Siege Weapons and enable players also to repair damage Siege Weapons with Supply, what should also count then for this achievement
5) Add a WvW Mastery that increases the Points gained toward the achievement, when repairing or building something from 1 to 3 to maximum 5 to speed up the process of working on the title.
6) Add a Bonus for WvW Achievements for the Undermanned Side of +1 Point towards Achievement Progression
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Merge Master of Disaster and Realm Defender together with 30 AP as Supply Manager Achievement for simply taking your first time Supply and delivering it to a keep or tower that has not maximum supply (new mechanic to exchange those silly Dolyaks out..players become now Supply Carriers!!)

Yakslapper becomes now a simple FUN ACHIEVEMENT for WVW that ypou gain for killing 10000 YAKS in WvW Maps, ANY YAKS that are there, not just only the old specific Supply Yaks …
Supply Yaks will still be there in WvW Maps, but their importance wil be drastically higher, as they will carry now more Supply, than before and will be more importan,t due to them delivering also essential new parts to significantly improve the defense and offensive constructions of keeps and towers, that players can build only, if so and so many supply dolyaks have been escorted safely to the places.

That would be some good changes, that I’d love to see for GW2#s WvW to happen.

sadly no words or anything about WvW achievements from the EGX rezed trailer about the new borderland map, if it will have like EotM also its own achievements and more especialy, what ANet will do finalyl about the existing ones.

Come on, with the trailer its now official, that for now anet WILL REPLACE the complete “Alpine Borderland” with the new Desert Borderland, which is alot bigger, than anythign we ever had before, because in fact, that new desert map is basically 3 maps in one and as it looks ANet will take the time to bring back the Alpine Borderland only, when the Moment is fitting, like for a torunament that should find place on it… but for now, I think we will get for some longer time now first the complete new Map which should give ANet enough time to rework the alpine Map in the background, so that when they bring it somewhen in the future back, that it will be also a complete new overhauled and improved Alpinme Map of the same quality that the new Desert Map has, which won’t be then anymore 3 little divided copies of the same map, but also just 1 merged big 3 in 1 size map, like the desert I think.

However, alot of the current WvW Achievements, to come back to the main theme of the thread, are currently based all on the gameplay of the alpine borderland.

Saw in the trailer no Dolyaks, or did I have overseen them???
When the new map comes, shpould we do dolyaks then in the eternal battlegrounds from this moment on…?

The new and the old borderlands will rotate from week to week. So they are not gone.

weekly? hmm, then I seem to have misunderstood what has been said in that trailer

Thought Anet would use this chance in which they throw us now this new flesh to bite on for some time, until we see somewhen a new Tournament for which they might return the Alpine Borderlands in the future.

Do you really want to the the low quality Alpine Borderlands after a measly Week again back, when the new fresh huge Desert Map is there one?
I for once would find it silly to see the ancient old Alpine Borderlands after a luahgable Week back again, when it surely would be more fun to spent more time with the new map, than with a Map, that we all now for now for already 2 and a half years in which nothign at all has changed in there except of a tiny environmental redesign that removed a lake and some Quaggan NPCs, while reintroducing the Shrine Feature in a way, that isn’t very pleasing/convincing, where the SHrines in the new Map will be alot better and meaningful to the point, that we surely see alot more constant battles for the shrines there, than we do in the current WvW maps, where they are mostly absolutely uninteresting and most get taken only for the Daily Shrine Achievement once per player at such a day and otherwise mostly ignored by everyone.

They have not decided yet/not announced yet, how they are going to do the rotations. If they swap all 3 BL’s, or just some or random etc. They might give the existing "alpine" to the top server, and the new "Ziggurat/desert" to the lowest and randomize the middle etc.

Camp defenses are quite terrible, too. At least 4 out of 5 times the event reward does not even trigger even though I killed at least one attack and/or rezzed NPCs.

Also in light of the obsidian sanctum farm, Anet has one more reason to find realistic numbers for the achievements, otherwise people will find ways to get them in a way that is not in the spirit of the game.

Wolfey.3407:

Agreed with what you guys are saying.

Personally, I think removing the last tier on every achievement is fair and reasonable.
E.g. 100k dolyaks vs 500k dolyaks

I’ve been playing this game since prelaunch. I have nearly 8.000 hours clocked on it. I play WvW at least 80% of the time I’m on, and I only recently managed to hit 10.000 dolyaks.
That’s over 2.5 years of killing dolyaks. What you are suggesting is 10x as much. It’s NOT fair and reasonable, considering the amount of time you need to get, say, dragon rank, which is the maximum tier.