Guild Wars 2

I said it before and I will say it again. Its the AFTERMATH that I love about all this saga

pkilla.2534:

Sam.3645:

pkilla.2534:

So, I looked a bit back and see that a handful of FA ruined some event put together by a TC player. That’s expected, really, considering most players don’t read the forums and have no idea that people actually do that kind of thing. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous how some of you guys are stroking your egos over getting an already, always outnumbered server down to 0 points in the middle of the night for most of us. Especially considering the fact that you know we’re tough as nails when we actually have people online. Where are these mature people your server claims to be populated with? Tsk.

So the 40min of stalemate that TC vs. 40+ FAs at your garrison weren’t players? It was only after we’ve taken Hills, and then Garrison you guys started to disappear.

If you’re talking about the Garrison on EB… there were nowhere near 40 FA. You must seriously be out of your mind. rofl!

FABL, we counted.

Diehard.1432:

I said it before and I will say it again. Its the AFTERMATH that I love about all this saga

We love the aftermath about as much as you do, I assure you.

Wasn’t there. shrug I still stand behind the fact that we’re constantly outnumbered by TC, and it’s crazy to me that some of you guys are feeling awful mighty about it.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

The situation is over and TC got their revenge.

They got their revenge against who? The players who crashed your event don’t care that you took the map and are either still laughing or forgot about it already. The behavior some TC players have shown in this thread is a lot more immature than what the couple of FA guilds did.

Raincrow.1840:

FA proved they’re not organized enough to keep their own players in line, and people from FA should stop trying to defend their actions

In line? It’s still a game. We can’t control the actions of those guilds. Don’t try to justify that fact that some posters have tried to vilify an entire server based on the actions of a few.

pkilla.2534:

Wasn’t there. shrug I still stand behind the fact that we’re constantly outnumbered by TC, and it’s crazy to me that some of you guys are feeling awful mighty about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/TC-vs-CD-vs-FA/983868

Just saying. Hope you know where on the screen to look for [outmanned] icon.

Derv The Monkinator.4915:

Well…

TC can’t get badges.

ZING

HOW DO I HOLD ALL THESE BADGES?

Four+ pages of nonsense. I am generally of the opinion that everyone should be able to play how they want to play, which to me means that if a bunch of people want to have an event, then I will let them have the event. I was in the area, I watched it start, and then I went off to do something else, leaving the event alone.

I found the last 3-4 pages disgusting. TC you are acting like bullies. You tout it as divine retribution, but it is an excuse. Earlier in the week it was ‘omg alliance’ and now ‘omg event’ and soon it will be ‘omg something else’. Whatever excuse you can to toss around a huge numbers advantage like it somehow means something, then gloating about it.

You just ran around the maps PvEing everything down punishing who? No one cares about points, the people that disrupted your event have long since gone to bed, so you basically just stomped on the play time of a bunch of people that logged on and likely have no idea what is going on, and to some extent cheapened the second place victory for CD, who deserved it because they fought hard and well.

You really showed the folks that disrupted your event, by tossing yourself into the mud pit with them. Grats.

phaneo.4597:

pkilla.2534:

Wasn’t there. shrug I still stand behind the fact that we’re constantly outnumbered by TC, and it’s crazy to me that some of you guys are feeling awful mighty about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/TC-vs-CD-vs-FA/983868

Just saying. Hope you know where on the screen to look for [outmanned] icon.

Oh please! How often do you have that icon? Once a week for a half-hour? This is just silliness, please be realistic. If you’re trying to suggest that the numbers aren’t almost always in your favor, you’re off your rocker. Honestly, I don’t mind being outnumbered that much as I’m not a hardcore wvw’er and still have a great time just fighting other people with my guildmates. The fact that you guys have such an active group of players to work with is wonderful. I envy that. I just can’t stand to see FA being talked about as if we just got spanked with numbers on our side, during peak hours. It’s craziness!

pkilla.2534:

phaneo.4597:

pkilla.2534:

Wasn’t there. shrug I still stand behind the fact that we’re constantly outnumbered by TC, and it’s crazy to me that some of you guys are feeling awful mighty about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/TC-vs-CD-vs-FA/983868

Just saying. Hope you know where on the screen to look for [outmanned] icon.

Oh please! How often do you have that icon? Once a week for a half-hour? This is just silliness, please be realistic. If you’re trying to suggest that the numbers aren’t almost always in your favor, you’re off your rocker. Honestly, I don’t mind being outnumbered that much as I’m not a hardcore wvw’er and still have a great time just fighting other people with my guildmates. The fact that you guys have such an active group of players to work with is wonderful. I envy that. I just can’t stand to see FA being talked about as if we just got spanked with numbers on our side, during peak hours. It’s craziness!

Pretty much everytime we’re against any server with major Oceanic crew? And as I posted, I was just mentioning. By saying “Oh please”, you’re just discrediting the fact as if I’m finding some excuse, despite being in the lead which I really don’t have to. And even TC’ers above mentioned that its probably FA downtime despite having 40+ defending the garrison. Not sure as I wasn’t there. Those who were have mentioned it and I’d take the word of a fellow Toastie. I don’t mind being outmanned either, none of us do. We have still put up heavy fight against CD zerg at that time and even the day before when CD & FA have together attacked us on both fronts. I guess I’ll have to make a kittenin 100 line post that just reads “WE ALL HAVE OUR WEAK TIMESLOTS” after mentioning the same fact in every 5th post of mine.

Arcadio.6875:

We can’t control the actions of those guilds.

Wasn’t that my point?

Arcadio.6875:

Don’t try to justify that fact that some posters have tried to vilify an entire server based on the actions of a few.

Actually my opinion of FA is based more on your actions over the week than on this forum. Your server basically ruined any chance either CD or FA had of making a go at TC, because of horrible tactics by a large number of your players from day 1.

The poor choice to attack people just trying to have a little RP fun is simply the most obvious example.

Raincrow.1840:

Arcadio.6875:

We can’t control the actions of those guilds.

Wasn’t that my point?

Arcadio.6875:

Don’t try to justify that fact that some posters have tried to vilify an entire server based on the actions of a few.

Actually my opinion of FA is based more on your actions over the week than on this forum. Your server basically ruined any chance either CD or FA had of making a go at TC, because of horrible tactics by a large number of your players from day 1.

The poor choice to attack people just trying to have a little RP fun is simply the most obvious example.

Your “point” was that FA isn’t organized enough to keep our players in line, but that has nothing to do with organization. We cannot control their actions. If those same guilds were on TC or CD, you guys would not be able to control their actions.

Thread close countdown starts now!

Niim.9260:

Four+ pages of nonsense. I am generally of the opinion that everyone should be able to play how they want to play, which to me means that if a bunch of people want to have an event, then I will let them have the event. I was in the area, I watched it start, and then I went off to do something else, leaving the event alone.

I found the last 3-4 pages disgusting. TC you are acting like bullies. You tout it as divine retribution, but it is an excuse. Earlier in the week it was ‘omg alliance’ and now ‘omg event’ and soon it will be ‘omg something else’. Whatever excuse you can to toss around a huge numbers advantage like it somehow means something, then gloating about it.

You just ran around the maps PvEing everything down punishing who? No one cares about points, the people that disrupted your event have long since gone to bed, so you basically just stomped on the play time of a bunch of people that logged on and likely have no idea what is going on, and to some extent cheapened the second place victory for CD, who deserved it because they fought hard and well.

You really showed the folks that disrupted your event, by tossing yourself into the mud pit with them. Grats.

But you can’t sidestep every excuse posters from FA have made in the past for your server’s losses; “Omg, 2v1”, “Omg, nightcapping”, “Omg, Tarnished Zerg.” You walked away, but others didn’t. Don’t point fingers and call other people bullies when, in fact, you should be taking a look at your own server.

What I love about posters from FA is how you sidestep every accusation made towards you because it is always somebody else’s fault.

Moreover, don’t bring CD into this. What’s cheap is how people from your server deliberately disrupted an event, hosted by someone from CD, then have the nerve to ask them to team up with you and focus on TC. Frankly, I don’t care if you do, but it really does reflect poorly on Fort Aspenwood. This isn’t the first time and there is a reason many people dislike FA.

Can we please get a score & map update?

You know, this yak march was what we used to stop the negativity in the last thread right…? The mood was light at the time and we had gotten control over the forums again. It would have been fine if they had just slaughtered us and NOT come to the forums to brag and troll.

Score update since it was requested:

Here’s a summary of events:

WvW players from all 3 servers advertise event
Event happens
Players on FA decide to interrupt it
People in even do nothing
People in event suffer due to FA wanting to see numbers flashing on their screen
People in event decide to return to world versus world action
FA loses entire borderland

I’d like to thank those of FA that I fought against during the last few hours.
Many, many enjoyable battles were had. Particularly around LV!
I didn’t see many CD players, but I did find one attacking around a keep (he was a ranger). I’m not sure what you were doing there buddy!

All in all I am very proud that our commanders and our players decided to do something, and got it done.
I’m even more proud that there are other world versus world players who recognize that there’s more to war than just fighting!
Looking forward to more interesting activities to come.
Cheers.

I suggest those FAers ticked off by all this, direct their anger in the proper direction. Read the antagonistic responses from the perpetrators …. Then let your server know these guys pulled this nonsense and did nothing to help defend your borders in the aftermath (read the replies carefully, they avoid answering definitively). They basically stirred the pot and left the rest of you to clean up the mess.

Jayne.9251:

I suggest those FAers ticked off by all this, direct their anger in the proper direction. Read the antagonistic responses from the perpetrators …. Then let your server know these guys pulled this nonsense and did nothing to help defend your borders in the aftermath (read the replies carefully, they avoid answering definitively). They basically stirred the pot and left the rest if you to clean up the mess.

Where is it?

Usagi.4835:

Moreover, don’t bring CD into this. What’s cheap is how people from your server deliberately disrupted an event, hosted by someone from CD, then have the nerve to ask them to team up with you and focus on TC. Frankly, I don’t care if you do, but it really does reflect poorly on Fort Aspenwood. This isn’t the first time and there is a reason many people dislike FA.

FYI it’s only this Derv The Monkinator guy asking for an alliance.

uhohhotdog.3598:

Jayne.9251:

I suggest those FAers ticked off by all this, direct their anger in the proper direction. Read the antagonistic responses from the perpetrators …. Then let your server know these guys pulled this nonsense and did nothing to help defend your borders in the aftermath (read the replies carefully, they avoid answering definitively). They basically stirred the pot and left the rest if you to clean up the mess.

Where is it?

Last thread closed after I quoted stuff for a request like this so I think you have to read the thread on your own bro.

Jayne.9251:

I suggest those FAers ticked off by all this, direct their anger in the proper direction. Read the antagonistic responses from the perpetrators …. Then let your server know these guys pulled this nonsense and did nothing to help defend your borders in the aftermath (read the replies carefully, they avoid answering definitively). They basically stirred the pot and left the rest if you to clean up the mess.

This X1000

uhohhotdog.3598:

Jayne.9251:

I suggest those FAers ticked off by all this, direct their anger in the proper direction. Read the antagonistic responses from the perpetrators …. Then let your server know these guys pulled this nonsense and did nothing to help defend your borders in the aftermath (read the replies carefully, they avoid answering definitively). They basically stirred the pot and left the rest if you to clean up the mess.

Where is it?

Should be on pageeesss… 3-5. Please take the time to read their responses before pointing any fingers.

Arcadio.6875:

Your “point” was that FA isn’t organized enough to keep our players in line, but that has nothing to do with organization. We cannot control their actions. If those same guilds were on TC or CD, you guys would not be able to control their actions.

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

I don’t agree with their actions but lumping the entire server in with them isn’t any better.

Hmm… from the score updates, it really shows that we need reinforcement for our NA coverage badly. We clearly are the weakest during that time. Time for some recruitment thread, my fellow NA CD players?

Raincrow.1840:

Arcadio.6875:

Your “point” was that FA isn’t organized enough to keep our players in line, but that has nothing to do with organization. We cannot control their actions. If those same guilds were on TC or CD, you guys would not be able to control their actions.

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

Organization means absolutely nothing when there is literally nothing you can do to force someone to do/not do something.

Maybe TC and CD should merge. We can call it Garnished Dessert.

Diehard.1432:

Hmm… from the score updates, it really shows that we need reinforcement for our NA coverage badly. We clearly are the weakest during that time. Time for some recruitment thread, my fellow NA CD players?

We’re full every time I look at it (got some friends that want to xfer on) but other than that we’d definitely benefit. No idea how to get the people who don’t WvW to leave though.

Diehard.1432:

Hmm… from the score updates, it really shows that we need reinforcement for our NA coverage badly. We clearly are the weakest during that time. Time for some recruitment thread, my fellow NA CD players?

I think it’s a little late for NA coverage. It’s midnight Pacific time. Only people playing now in NA are swing shift workers and some college kids.

As a FAer and being in wvw everyday with my guild to try and keep the tc hordes at bay all i have to say is FA is undermanned by alot. in almost every fight we’ve been outnumbered by a lot but you know what FA keeps fighting and many times tc you just zerg us for hours on towers or keeps regardless of how many of you die, and i was at the battle of Greenlake that day and there were only 30 FA vs the entirety of tc and know what? we help that mother for a long time, I alone got at least 100 kills. I also was at the overlook in EB where you guys zerged the side wall about 3 times with catapults until you resorted to trebbing and we held you at the lord for a good hour with only 10 people against at least 40+ so i salute you my fellow FAers for being so determined to keep fighting even against such overwhelming numbers and duel assaults of tc and cd.
P.S.
As a closer i hope that you tc go to tier 2 so you can get your face rofl-stomped and lose your population (being your only advantage) by people transferring out to most likely FA anyway.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

Raincrow.1840:

Arcadio.6875:

Your “point” was that FA isn’t organized enough to keep our players in line, but that has nothing to do with organization. We cannot control their actions. If those same guilds were on TC or CD, you guys would not be able to control their actions.

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

Organization means absolutely nothing when there is literally nothing you can do to force someone to do/not do something.

You’re missing the point. You have entire guilds on your server that don’t care about the rest of you, and again, I’m not JUST talking about this event, but rather the entire week and the short sighted tactical choices your server has made daily.

Every server has it’s bad apples, but the ones in your server are leading things.

FXLEACH.9436:

FA loses entire borderland

There was more after that:
TC and CD press FA on all four maps. Their income drops to 30-50, then hits 0.
TC’s EB group starts taking other stuff, mostly the hard-to-reach things that people want for map completion. At one point, TC holds all three keeps in EB.
Then things more or less go back to normal (see the most recent map update).

I’ve attached screenshots from 1 am and 2 am EST.

uhohhotdog.3598:

Diehard.1432:

Hmm… from the score updates, it really shows that we need reinforcement for our NA coverage badly. We clearly are the weakest during that time. Time for some recruitment thread, my fellow NA CD players?

I think it’s a little late for NA coverage. It’s midnight Pacific time. Only people playing now in NA are swing shift workers and some college kids.

And people who are FROTHING WITH RAGE!!!

CobaltSixty.1542:

uhohhotdog.3598:

Diehard.1432:

Hmm… from the score updates, it really shows that we need reinforcement for our NA coverage badly. We clearly are the weakest during that time. Time for some recruitment thread, my fellow NA CD players?

I think it’s a little late for NA coverage. It’s midnight Pacific time. Only people playing now in NA are swing shift workers and some college kids.

And people who are FROTHING WITH RAGE!!!

And a giant TC zerg.

The TC zerg are the people frothing with rage…

Raincrow.1840:

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

No guild is required by the game to be a part of the server’s community and abide by the rules set out by its players. Organization simply has nothing to do with this. Their actions were not endorsed by the rest of FA and it has been acknowledged by the other servers that these two guilds were told not to crash the party on team chat. People blaming FA are doing so, because they want to and not because there is good reason.

And those saying we should be upset at them and not at TC players, why? TC players are the ones who decided to retaliate against FA as a whole. You guys could have specifically targeted these two guilds or even just laughed it off.

Edit: WTF, every time I post there’s a ton of new posts since I started typing.

I had fun today. Here is a picture of the Yak parade before some nameless lamers ruined our celebration.

http://i.imgur.com/mUH8C.jpg

Raincrow.1840:

And a normal TC zerg.

Fixed that for ya

Wish I had heard about this earlier. Didn’t log on today and didn’t see this thread til it was already over.

Nice to see TC are still claiming that being able to field huge numbers at off-peak hours is superior tactics.

Urrid.4593:

I had fun today. Here is a picture of the Yak parade before some nameless lamers ruined our celebration.

http://i.imgur.com/mUH8C.jpg

Coral this is awesome! Really good job on this!

Also thanks for the tonics~

Also don’t make TC angry, this is what happens when you ruin an RP event.

e: Hi to the GODs that exploited their way into CD BL Bay and just staked me just now. You’re omnipotent alright. I am only posting this because it happened while I uploaded the Yaks pic. Class act.

Next week I am coming for you FA.

Arcadio.6875:

No guild is required by the game to be a part of the server’s community and abide by the rules set out by its players. Organization simply has nothing to do with this.

You can be organized without requiring people to listen to you. It’s more about mutual respect for your own server that major guilds would actually read the chat and hold off attacking when asked by team mates.

And AGAIN… I’m not talking about just this event either.

Lots of focus on emotes and event crashing and numbers and whatever. It’s probably good to step back and reset our mindsets here. Things happen. Can’t paint with broad strokes, any server. I think, anyway.

Sometimes, I’ve been savaged by groups or assaulted by simple tactics. Other times, I’ve challenged enemy players to duels by personally calling them out. Sometimes I’ve attacked people in the jumping puzzle. Other times, I’ve saluted and let them through. No ones a saint, we’ve all been sinners.

I, at least personally, want to mollify some of this. I’m a small presence for my server, TC, although not a name without recognition (I say with some arrogance). I don’t affect major battles. I run small squads for small tasks. I’m not a commander or a leader of a huge guild. I’m just a player. One drop in the Tarnished Coast sea.

But I still want to salute my enemies. Some real toughs have held strong and fought. And that still deserves recognition. As for my server, let’s still try to hold onto our tenacity but let’s never give up a sense of cordiality for it.

Least, that’s what I think as one tiny drop.

Arcadio.6875:

Raincrow.1840:

It has everything to do with organization. If those guilds were on CD, I’d be looking to hop servers.

No guild is required by the game to be a part of the server’s community and abide by the rules set out by its players. Organization simply has nothing to do with this. Their actions were not endorsed by the rest of FA and it has been acknowledged by the other servers that these two guilds were told not to crash the party on team chat. People blaming FA are doing so, because they want to and not because there is good reason.

And those saying we should be upset at them and not at TC players, why? TC players are the ones who decided to retaliate against FA as a whole. You guys could have specifically targeted these two guilds or even just laughed it off.

Edit: WTF, every time I post there’s a ton of new posts since I started typing.

Well, I’m guessing there was a lot of rage and no other way to release it other than target the server the aggressors come from.

I think the whole event is a hoot. It’s great that opposing servers can even come together and have something like this – how often do you see this in any other tier? Then your typical party poopers came to crash, and then everyone use it as an excuse to rally and rampage around the map. I think it’s funny, but many people seem to take it way too seriously.

Unfortunately.5940:

Nice to see TC are still claiming that being able to field huge numbers at off-peak hours is superior tactics.

I dont think I’ve heard a single TC player say that in this thread, and then go on to call it superior tactics.

Both of the other servers have done the same thing using their strongest time periods.

Tactics or not, having more numbers will ALWAYS ALWAYS be an advantage with potential. All I hear from FA players lately is “boo hoo TC is a bigger server, dont be so proud”

What about the defense you guys put up in FABL? It may have lost but dont put their efforts down like that! On the topic of TC using tactics and strategy, we do sometimes when we are evenly matched, or slightly undermanned, but we dont otherwise because it tends to be stressful and we are made up of random people willing to help, not dedicated WvW guilds. Be proud in your defense! We havent known FA to be the best at defending, but you’ve proven to me time and again that guys are more than capable of holding and pushing off an attack.

The people on FA would honestly be happy to be rid of GODS.

Do you want them?

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Be proud in your defense! We havent known FA to be the best at defending, but you’ve proven to me time and again that guys are more than capable of holding and pushing off an attack.

Who is defending in FA right now? And how many TC players are in FA borders?

Because if the TC zerg is as big as the one running all over CD, I’m certain those FA defenders deserve high praise. I’ve been in CD trying to 5 on 20 for the last couple hours, and finally gave up out of sheer frustration.

Not feeling a lot of CD pride right now.

I really don’t see that many FA players who are mad about this. Chat is relaxed with plenty of jokes throughout. Besides, aren’t we are actually increasing rating while TC is losing it? That’s how it was last time I checked. I’m not gonna squabble with other active FA WvW guilds/players or ask my guild to transfer server just because some FA people didn’t wanna play along with some carebear RP event. As far as I can tell, that’s what TC is looking for (infighting for FA).

The fact is we’re just a threat regardless of our smaller numbers, I think it just bothered TC ever since we wiped them off EB and most of their borderlands in primetime and held most of it through the entire night the first weekend we played them in T3. They’ve loved to hate us and worked to turn the other server against us ever since and it doesn’t help that PiNK and PRO have been rivals since much earlier matchups (which started as healthy and respectful rivalry and went downhill from there).

At the end of the day you can’t dictate how other people play, I’m not going to attack my own server or place blame on anyone. FA still having fun cleaning up after the NA crew with lots of karma/xp/coin for easy reclaimed territory and these TC first-time-wvvers sure are squishy in FA borderlands To the 2 BLNT guys who shadow refuge ganked my level 20 mesmer at Bluewater then died to the guards… Better Luck Next time?

If I was an outsider looking in, I’m biased but I’d say as a majority – FA are bloodthirsty, never back down from a fight, fight for first regardless of the odds, have room for new players and continue to look for new opportunities to improve upon themselves in WvW. Most of what I have to sift through from TC are top tier forum warriors drowning out a lot of their decent, respectful players, a side effect of the winning bandwagon though I guess. FA has never had a thread locked unless TC was in it (check Maguuma/Dragonbrand/FA, Darkhaven/HOD/FA, FA/ET/YB) while almost all of TC matchup threads have been locked from what I’ve seen.. food for thought? Perhaps, however I’d say TC is just the most active server on the forums of all servers, I think they just get a little bit overexcited and lose track of where to draw the line.

I know what server I’m happy and proud to be on, I know all of our guilds I love to work with who think the same way, you’re not going to get us to argue with each other no matter how hard you try. I don’t doubt the same thing for TC.
See you next week for another round of shame and blame!

CobaltSixty.1542:

The people on FA would honestly be happy to be rid of GODS.

Do you want them?

I’m begging to ask what the whole of GODS did to be shunned by the entire community on FA.

The majority of GODS on right now (3:51 am EST) is in our own FA BL. Myself, and I’m sure I can speak for the rest of anyone that posts on here do not exploit, refuse to exploit, and do not condone exploiting. I can come here too and spout false claims if you’d like, but at least back those up with a screenshot if you’re going to.

“Ah mah god, this guy from pink and blnt were exploiting their way into a keep!! no proof, but they did !!”