Guild Wars 2

I went deeeeep into bunker as a counter for the dps stun meta in pvp and wvw..

but yeah, it’s all you see now.. hammertrains..

/yawn..

lol @ dps meta in pvp. Pvp = bunker wars 2.

ps. op l2 dodge.

Master of Timespace.2548:

lol @ dps meta in pvp. Pvp = bunker wars 2.

ps. op l2 dodge.

So I’m supposed to see a warrior charge kill shot in blob vs blob ok

lol.. use the force…Rep ..j/k

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

I went deeeeep into bunker as a counter for the dps stun meta in pvp and wvw..

lessons learned… now just throw away your bunker gear and instead use stability, stun breaker and l2dodge.

This is an extreme situation. What needs to be nerfed first is constant stun spam with low cooldowns in wvw zergs. (hammer/mace-shield)

Warrior is OP for many reasons.
Killing newbies with kill shot is not one of them :-)

Evilek.5690:

Warrior has best HP pool,armor,def and off abilities,mobility and his DPS ? Warrior DPS is joke.Warrior makes about 50% more damage than Guardian and 100% higher than the Thief (Warrior glass cannon 18.5k HP,Guardian/Thief 10.5k HP)

warriors were the running jokes in pvp for almost 12 month since headstart. guess what? nothing has changed about there hp, armor, mobility and damage since then.

people see a warrior running away extremely fast with GS + Sword + Bullrush, then see another warrior who stunlocks with Hammer + Mace, then see another warrior who seems to be unkillable due to clerics gear + banner + block + double endure pain, then see another warrior who killshots for 10k+ from range, then see another warrior who perma clean conditions with longbow. people then go to forums and qq the wheck out of it how op warriors are because of all that stuff.

guess what? warriors are awesome just because they have so many viable builds.

but they cannot have it all at once.

people have to realize there’s no 30/30/30/30/30 build with 5 weapon sets to swap.

Clearly that guy runs ’zerker gear and only functions as a sniper. In small groups, I think his effectiveness would be very limited since he is just glass.

Malik.6781:

Yes, time to roll a warrior, seems like this class always getting buff and never will be nerfed. Back in a days, people was so flaming rage, when someone post screenshots with thieves backstabs for 7-8k on underlevel or naked character, what we got? Nerf nerf nerf, on all available builds untill now. Sad, but true.

i hear u. for zergs there isnt much for thieves. ganking u can still do, but if u dont like the chees builds then ther is like almost nothing. same fore mesmers. we are veilbots for the warriors with a big lack of aoe.
the zerg with the most warriors wins.

I recommend moving this to the warrior forum to get a more balanced point of view on the issue.

teg.1340:

warriors were the running jokes in Spvp for almost 8 months since newbies realized bull rush hundred blades was counterable and quickness got nerfed. They were always fine in WvW. guess what? nothing has changed about there hp, armor, mobility and damage since then but their sustained (buffed), invul states (buffed), Condition mitigation (buffed) and new stun meta has put them over the top.

people see a warrior running away extremely fast with GS + Bullrush, then see another warrior who stunlocks with GS + Mace/Shield, then see another warrior who seems to be unkillable due to clerics gear + banner + block + double endure pain, then see another warrior who killshots for 10k+ from range, then see another warrior who permanent clean conditions with longbow + …GS. People then go to forums and qq the wheck out of it how op warriors are because they can achieve none of this on any other build with any other class.

Guess what? Warriors are awesome just because they rely on near game breaking mechanics in mobility and sustained to overcome just about any build with no investment in fights due to insane mobility and/or sustained healing.

However, they cannot have it all at once, but builds like 0 20 30 0 20 have most of it all at once.

People have to realize there’s no builds really as good as a basic warrior build.

Fixed it for you.

I got two shot from something i couldnt see,i try to hit it but it vanish’d lolz,i wonder what it was…

Go for it, switch! There are far too many eles in wvw just not doing well enough. Cannonfodder. That is by design (balancing for pvp’s elite players although even that failed), not skill. 1 staff buffbot per zerg is plenty, for any other role, pick a different class. Your screenshot is one example of many reasons why being ele just hurts your team.

Try to explain that to an outsider! Actually, they won’t believe someone would make a game like that on purpose, they will think it’s an excuse and you are really not doing it right, so better not!

Evilek.5690:

Warrior has best HP pool,armor,def and off abilities,mobility and his DPS ? Warrior DPS is joke.Warrior makes about 50% more damage than Guardian and 100% higher than the Thief (Warrior glass cannon 18.5k HP,Guardian/Thief 10.5k HP)

teg.1340:

warriors were the running jokes in pvp for almost 12 month since headstart. guess what? nothing has changed about there hp, armor, mobility and damage since then.
people see a warrior running away extremely fast with GS + Sword + Bullrush, then see another warrior who stunlocks with Hammer + Mace, then see another warrior who seems to be unkillable due to clerics gear + banner + block + double endure pain, then see another warrior who killshots for 10k+ from range, then see another warrior who perma clean conditions with longbow. people then go to forums and qq the wheck out of it how op warriors are because of all that stuff.
guess what? warriors are awesome just because they have so many viable builds.
but they cannot have it all at once.
people have to realize there’s no 30/30/30/30/30 build with 5 weapon sets to swap

+1

Hahaha, nerf the rifle. Remove it all togheter while you are at it. I Don’t care, and Im pretty sure most warriors don’t either.

There are probably 1000 reasons that warrior is OP, and completely unbalanced. However killshot isn’t one of them.

18k you have to be really squishy and him pretty well buff/DPS oriented.

VLK style.

Devon.9061:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-We2bnvbvYQ

VLK style.

AHAHA =)

Killshot is not a real issue, high hp, high armor, good mobility, good cc, good damage, double shake it off, double endure pain, health regen from trinket, health regen from adrenaline, all this on one build. This is a problem. Its just to easy to be good with this spec because so much of it is passive. The ability to passively clear conditions from spec and passively gain endure pain just allow for sloppy play, you don’t have to worry about kittening up the game will cover for you and then to regen 500-600 hp a sec well running away with you GS is frustrating to anyone who has to chase you down.

that’s in the hands of a mediocre player, get someone who knows what they are doing and the spec becomes worse, or pair it with a guardian so the war can pick up bulls charge and fear me, lol.

buy here is the thing, I don’t want it to change, leave it as is. Just fix the other classes so when they do play well they actually out shine an overly passive and forgiving spec like this one.

teg.1340:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

I went deeeeep into bunker as a counter for the dps stun meta in pvp and wvw..

lessons learned… now just throw away your bunker gear and instead use stability, stun breaker and l2dodge.

<necro.. please tell me how ^^

Samhayn.2385:

Killshot is not a real issue, high hp, high armor, good mobility, good cc, good damage, double shake it off, double endure pain, health regen from trinket, health regen from adrenaline, all this on one build. This is a problem. Its just to easy to be good with this spec because so much of it is passive. The ability to passively clear conditions from spec and passively gain endure pain just allow for sloppy play, you don’t have to worry about kittening up the game will cover for you and then to regen 500-600 hp a sec well running away with you GS is frustrating to anyone who has to chase you down.

Necros have just as much HP and no one complains that they have too much. The armor difference is negligible (2127 armor instead of 1836). Pretty much no one runs “double shake it off”, as in Shake it Off with Shrug it Off, that’d be 20 points into Tactics. Very few people run “double Endure Pain”, as in Endure Pain and Defy Pain, as that’s 30 points into Defense. Not to mention that Defy Pain kinda sucks, since it kicks in at a low percentage and does not protect against conditions.

By the way, what you just said amounts to running x/x/30/20/x, along with either Mace or Hammer. That pretty much means you have to run 30 into Discipline for Burst Mastery, but that puts you overdue at requiring 80 traitpoints. And most builds would also want the 10 into Arms for Unsuspecting Foe, further putting you deep into impossibility at 90 points.

In case you don’t know: Pretty much every warrior worth their dough runs 20 into Defense for Cleansing Ire and a minimum of 15 in Discipline for Fast Hands. That’s already half of your points spent.

Finatol.1984:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r4E9N50lTs

Except that 30/0/0/10/30 doesn’t work anymore, what with Empower Allies being moved up to Master tier.

Not to mention, Sanny is running a full glass cannon build with literally zero means to counter conditions. Check the build:

• No Cleansing Ire
• No Berserker Stance
• No Shake It Off
• No Rune of Melandru
• No Lemongrass Poultry Soup

I can understand getting killed by that (as it is a zerker build), but not being able to kill that just means you suck.

Please do not nerf killshot, it is the easiest ability to spot and dodge. I want to make a video of nothing but reflecting kill shots back at their users one day.

Please do not nerf this ability

Blix.8021:

If you get hit for 18.7k with a kill shot, you are squishy.

Source: I have kill shot many people

His build isn’t very squishy. But elementalists have always been so squishy as to be laughable even with full toughness. Something Anet never fixed for eles and probably won’t because they really don’t get how to balance their own games, tbh.

17k Killshots.

Sounds like that condition meta is really out of control… Oh wait!

For lulz <—- Warrior forums complaining Rifle is underpowered.

To hit that hard the Warrior is running maxed out zerker (meaning dies very quickly) and you were running no/minimal toughness.

People recommend high toughness in WvW for good reason.

Brew Pinch.5731:

For lulz <—- Warrior forums complaining Rifle is underpowered.

To hit that hard the Warrior is running maxed out zerker (meaning dies very quickly) and you were running no/minimal toughness.

People recommend high toughness in WvW for good reason.

Sound like a fun.

Warrior without toughness and vitality traits has 18.5K HPand 2.2k armor !!! Where is your low defense ?

Warrior http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

Thief/Ele http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

Warrior 21K effective HP
Thief 11.6k effective HP
Ele 10.8k effective HP

Wow a must say WOW. Galass cannon Warrior has 50%+ more DPS then Thief and Ele better defensive abilities and 2x more HP.

This is BALLANCE !!!!

Brew Pinch.5731:

For lulz <—- Warrior forums complaining Rifle is underpowered.

To hit that hard the Warrior is running maxed out zerker (meaning dies very quickly) and you were running no/minimal toughness.

People recommend high toughness in WvW for good reason.

because they are talking about actual competitive pvp, and not some randomd wvw zergvzerg hiding behind and getting damage buffed by everyone else.

Evilek.5690:

Brew Pinch.5731:

For lulz <—- Warrior forums complaining Rifle is underpowered.

To hit that hard the Warrior is running maxed out zerker (meaning dies very quickly) and you were running no/minimal toughness.

People recommend high toughness in WvW for good reason.

Sound like a fun.

Warrior without toughness and vitality traits has 18.5K HPand 2.2k armor !!! Where is your low defense ?

Warrior http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

Thief/Ele http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0.1g.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

Warrior 21K effective HP
Thief 11.6k effective HP
Ele 10.8k effective HP

Wow a must say WOW. Galass cannon Warrior has 50%+ more DPS then Thief and Ele better defensive abilities and 2x more HP.

This is BALLANCE !!!!

yes, you should totally try zerker war out yourself, i bet you can’t even land one single attack before you melt like butter.
because armor and hp matter in this game. because the 10.8k hp ele wasnt the unkilleable god back then. talking about stupidity.