Guild Wars 2

Are they going to deliver a 33% finish expansion? I didn’t see any information of WvW and PvP. Isn’t mount is more important than WvW and PvP? Are you kidding me? Why rush the sale of the new expansion before the WvW overhaul? I feel so bad because of the memory of a game call ‘Diablo 3’. Rush the sales with incomplete content and lost 99% of their supporters.

1. rush the sale of the new expansion
2. Rush the sales with incomplete content and lost 99% of their supporters.

Agree 100% – the always the same, lost lot of players.

I dont play this game, for me it is dead. ( i play only WvW, and when the # Heart of Thorns killed the WvW )

My guild with 70+ players, ALL left the game.

Good luck all.

Still no delivery on some of the promises with the sale of HoT, too. Don’t forget that one.

The competitive potential of this game has been pretty much wasted at this point.

Unless they came up with a fully polished GvG implementation there is little hat can be done to bring back all the competitive players they’ve lost.

WvW will just consist of zergs farming for rewards instead of guild having interesting fights using unique strategies like in the first 2 years.

I don’t think you guys quite understand the direction they are going with.

Expansions are for pve content, new pve zones, masteries, and introducing new weapons and specializations to the game. It’s their biggest base of players and they will make their money in this area of the game. It was never about releasing equal sized content for pve wvw and pvp, I don’t know where you got that idea from, it’s not “33%” complete.

Content made for PVP and WVW are released for free, when they are ready and not going to be held for an expansion, including maps if they ever develop another one for wvw, you don’t need HoT to play on the desert borderland.

The only exception is you need the HoT expansion to use the new specs in wvw, mastery for auto loot, and the shield gens, this time you will only need it for the new specs with PoF.

There is no “big overhaul” coming, parts of that already shipped, get over it already.

Xillllix.3485:

The competitive potential of this game has been pretty much wasted at this point.

Unless they came up with a fully polished GvG implementation there is little hat can be done to bring back all the competitive players they’ve lost.

WvW will just consist of zergs farming for rewards instead of guild having interesting fights using unique strategies like in the first 2 years.

That seems like a client-side issue.

Just last night my guild had insanely fun fights using great strategies and positioning to annihilate our enemies of equal or greater numbers. Both in the BL’s and in EBG.

I hear what the OP is saying but 9 new masteries is a giant new content update to WvW and sPvP. Even better if it is on par with HoT masteries and not mostly necessary for meta play.

cpchow.7416:

Are they going to deliver a 33% finish expansion? I didn’t see any information of WvW and PvP. Isn’t mount is more important than WvW and PvP? Are you kidding me? Why rush the sale of the new expansion before the WvW overhaul? I feel so bad because of the memory of a game call ‘Diablo 3’. Rush the sales with incomplete content and lost 99% of their supporters.

WvW & PvP updates are no longer part of the expansions. It will be delivered through live updates aka unscheduled content patch.

I realize I mispelled related. But kitten it.

I don’t have any empty threats about leaving the game. I don’t have a long rant. I’m not even going to pretend that I am surprised. Honestly, I knew this would happen. I will be here until they bury this game, but I am thoroughly disappointed. How about you?

SkyShroud.2865:

cpchow.7416:

Are they going to deliver a 33% finish expansion? I didn’t see any information of WvW and PvP. Isn’t mount is more important than WvW and PvP? Are you kidding me? Why rush the sale of the new expansion before the WvW overhaul? I feel so bad because of the memory of a game call ‘Diablo 3’. Rush the sales with incomplete content and lost 99% of their supporters.

WvW & PvP updates are no longer part of the expansions. It will be delivered through live updates aka unscheduled content patch.

But what would be included by most logical PR folks in the expansion announcement would be to announce that at approximately the same time as the expansion’s release, x y and z are going to be coming at around the same time so that we could enjoy some shiny new WvW content with these fun new specializations.

new wvw content inc in 4th expansion

Their tiny wvw team still needs another year to add in that additional reward track.

lol you ungrateful lot.

Melanion.4892:

SkyShroud.2865:

cpchow.7416:

Are they going to deliver a 33% finish expansion? I didn’t see any information of WvW and PvP. Isn’t mount is more important than WvW and PvP? Are you kidding me? Why rush the sale of the new expansion before the WvW overhaul? I feel so bad because of the memory of a game call ‘Diablo 3’. Rush the sales with incomplete content and lost 99% of their supporters.

WvW & PvP updates are no longer part of the expansions. It will be delivered through live updates aka unscheduled content patch.

But what would be included by most logical PR folks in the expansion announcement would be to announce that at approximately the same time as the expansion’s release, x y and z are going to be coming at around the same time so that we could enjoy some shiny new WvW content with these fun new specializations.

They no longer want to over promise things and not deliver at a timely manner, just look at HOT. Which is why the price, the amount of content for that amount of price.

They never talk about future updates, you guys must be new or something to expecting anything different.

wvw doesn’t get anything (other than a new reward track basically a rework of spvp).

pve gets new fractals, raids, maps etc.

If people don’t realise by now that wvw is a total sideshow and pve is their entire focus, I can’t help you.

Im pretty sure ANet stated before that they wont hold anything PvP/WvW related for expansions. We will get the updates to these game modes when they become available.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Awesome, you the man McKenna

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Where-are-the-new-WvW-content/first#post6663616

See Dev reply.

So as always no real WvW updates or fixes, as usual.
But again, just before a DLC release, sorry expansion, they will release some QoL improvements to make it seem they are again going to work on WvW, to get us to buy the DLC, I mean expansion.

QoL improvements before a DLC release, TICK
We cant talk about it TICK
Soon™ TICK!

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

we release on our own cadence

As before, you cant release something you dont have!

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Awesome, you the man McKenna

That would be WOman!

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Pls nerf condis ty.

At least they replied. Doesn’t really say much though. They’ve been releasing wvw content on their own “cadence” the entire time. It’s just been an extremely slooooow cadence. We’ll see what happens later this week but I’m not holding my breath. Either way, I know I’m going to buy the expansion no matter what happens just to stay up to par with the elite specs.

1. We got the major changes already

2. Not everything got revealed yet, be patient.

Aury.1367:

1. We got the major changes already

2. Not everything got revealed yet, be patient.

We got nothing that could be called major content.

We didn’t even get legendary armor, with swappable stats where it’s needed the most.
We got very delayed real auto loot, and legendary back item.

Blockhead Magee.3092:

Bigpapasmurf.5623:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Awesome, you the man McKenna

That would be WOman!

Opps, my bad. Please don’t Ban me :p

Timelord.8190:

Aury.1367:

1. We got the major changes already

2. Not everything got revealed yet, be patient.

We got nothing that could be called major content.

We didn’t even get legendary armor, with swappable stats where it’s needed the most.
We got very delayed real auto loot, and legendary back item.

We can’t earn legendary weapons in wvw either, and it’s been 5 years, why no complaints about that?

Pls balance your game, ty.

Thanks McKenna, good to know

Jana.6831:

Pls balance your game, ty.

Someone is hitting like a wet noodle.

XenesisII.1540:

Jana.6831:

Pls balance your game, ty.

Someone is hitting like a wet noodle.

You’re comparing 25stacks of might, Assassin’s Signet, Full Berserkers, and I’ve already lost interest in this reply. Onwards! To the next thread!

XenesisII.1540:

Jana.6831:

Pls balance your game, ty.

Someone is hitting like a wet noodle.

you do get that it’s in and out and that I’m fighting the same guy with 2,5k damage who’kittenting me for 5+k, right?
I’m a valk/zerker – basically full zerker and playing against some cavalier’s guy – and that stuff isn’t balanced since june 2015 – and that is my major issue with this game.

XenesisII.1540:

Timelord.8190:

Aury.1367:

1. We got the major changes already

2. Not everything got revealed yet, be patient.

We got nothing that could be called major content.

We didn’t even get legendary armor, with swappable stats where it’s needed the most.
We got very delayed real auto loot, and legendary back item.

We can’t earn legendary weapons in wvw either, and it’s been 5 years, why no complaints about that?

There have been plenty complaints about that.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Thank you for the answer.
It’s with this recent post in the AMA that my concern has been risen, and I hope you can address it:
With a full on expansion scope and budget there is simply much more that you guys can do (Maps, mechanics, etc…) and this “Live updates only” announcement raises a concern for me that WvW updates will forever be bound to a limited live-update scope.

Turk.5460:

XenesisII.1540:

Jana.6831:

Pls balance your game, ty.

Someone is hitting like a wet noodle.

You’re comparing 25stacks of might, Assassin’s Signet, Full Berserkers, and I’ve already lost interest in this reply. Onwards! To the next thread!

Oh you’re right, that thief is the only one that can pull that off. Please buff thieves along with their upcoming long range sniper rifle. Thank you.

XenesisII.1540:

Turk.5460:

XenesisII.1540:

Jana.6831:

Pls balance your game, ty.

Someone is hitting like a wet noodle.

You’re comparing 25stacks of might, Assassin’s Signet, Full Berserkers, and I’ve already lost interest in this reply. Onwards! To the next thread!

Oh you’re right, that thief is the only one that can pull that off. Please buff thieves along with their upcoming long range sniper rifle. Thank you.

I’d have to agree with you on this. I’m relatively tanky on my thief and still hit everyone for 8k+ backstabs. With the exception of druids of course with their 89088748617 passive abilities and crapton of damage reduction. So, unless its a broken druid you’re fighting, you should be hitting alot harder unless your build is crap. If i can backstab people for 8k in maruaders gear with defender runes…..yeah.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Cadence: The flow or rhythm of events. The beat, rate, or measure of any rhythmic movement.

WvW Development “Cadence” is the equivalent to stretching a bad pop song out over the course of 5 or so years and occasionally you get some bad synth line where you force yourself to hear it only because you’re stubborn and want it to go somewhere.

My obvious cynicism aside, I would love to hear about some cool stuff for WvW. Right now we’re In J Biebs Condi Meta Chorus.

CrashTheGrey.1492:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Cadence: The flow or rhythm of events. The beat, rate, or measure of any rhythmic movement.

WvW Development “Cadence” is the equivalent to stretching a bad pop song out over the course of 5 or so years and occasionally you get some bad synth line where you force yourself to hear it only because you’re stubborn and want it to go somewhere.

My obvious cynicism aside, I would love to hear about some cool stuff for WvW. Right now we’re In J Biebs Condi Meta Chorus.

How wonderfully appropriate. The condi meta right now does feel like listening to modern pop music. Although i would compare listening Beiber more to a Pulmonary Impact than I would to condis, unless you count torment and confusion. Can we go back to rock or metal Anet? Please bring back Metallica meta! Thanks to you I will now forever refer to a skill based power meta to the Metallica meta.

Nikkinella.8254:

XenesisII.1540:

Turk.5460:

XenesisII.1540:

Jana.6831:

Pls balance your game, ty.

Someone is hitting like a wet noodle.

You’re comparing 25stacks of might, Assassin’s Signet, Full Berserkers, and I’ve already lost interest in this reply. Onwards! To the next thread!

Oh you’re right, that thief is the only one that can pull that off. Please buff thieves along with their upcoming long range sniper rifle. Thank you.

I’d have to agree with you on this. I’m relatively tanky on my thief and still hit everyone for 8k+ backstabs. With the exception of druids of course with their 89088748617 passive abilities and crapton of damage reduction. So, unless its a broken druid you’re fighting, you should be hitting alot harder unless your build is crap. If i can backstab people for 8k in maruaders gear with defender runes…..yeah.

Pfft you just outplayed them, clearly.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

is all about the expansion.. that has absolutely NO NEWS FOR WVW COMMUNITY..

yay.. cant wait to purchase it.
#NOTTT!

here is the new WvW content:
enjoy their mockery

Come to think of it: If the only reason for wvw players to buy the expansion is that the new elites are that OP that without you you don’t stand a chance, and if the new elites only suit their respective weapons (or D/P in thieve’s case because anet don’t get that the set itself is OP) : Then I am forced to play a certain set and that’s the opposite of “play how you want”. If you boil all of it down it’s really so sad.

XenesisII.1540:

Oh you’re right, that thief is the only one that can pull that off. Please buff thieves along with their upcoming long range sniper rifle. Thank you.

You didn’t get the point. But other than that the skill level of the players has dramatically fallen the past 2 years, so they don’t understand what ‘balance’ even is. So, I don’t blame you – just jump on the ‘NERF THIEVES’ bandwagon every chance you get – the word ‘thief’ is enough – although technically 99,9% of them are daredevils.

Nikkinella.8254:

I’d have to agree with you on this. I’m relatively tanky on my thief and still hit everyone for 8k+ backstabs. With the exception of druids of course with their 89088748617 passive abilities and crapton of damage reduction. So, unless its a broken druid you’re fighting, you should be hitting alot harder unless your build is crap. If i can backstab people for 8k in maruaders gear with defender runes…..yeah.

I was fighting a warrior who likely had some tanky gear, with some tanky runes and some tanky traits – so yeah – I should be hitting a lot harder, giving that he hit me harder than I hit him while he’s got a healthpool which is +1.5 times my healthpool. Just go out and play thief some more to see whether or not you hit everybody for 8k or if your build is crap.

Jana.6831:

Nikkinella.8254:

I’d have to agree with you on this. I’m relatively tanky on my thief and still hit everyone for 8k+ backstabs. With the exception of druids of course with their 89088748617 passive abilities and crapton of damage reduction. So, unless its a broken druid you’re fighting, you should be hitting alot harder unless your build is crap. If i can backstab people for 8k in maruaders gear with defender runes…..yeah.

I was fighting a warrior who likely had some tanky gear, with some tanky runes and some tanky traits – so yeah – I should be hitting a lot harder, giving that he hit me harder than I hit him while he’s got a healthpool which is +1.5 times my healthpool. Just go out and play thief some more to see whether or not you hit everybody for 8k or if your build is crap.

Oh well, my bad then. You should have stated it was against a warrior. they may be subpar in pvp, but still broken af in wvw. Warrior, mes, and druid have all been stupidly broken and zero effort required, braindead gameplay for quite awhile now. What is risk vs reward? those 3 classes sure as hell don’t know the definition of that, atleast in wvw. But hey, they suck in other modes so its ok for them to be stupidly overpowered in wvw right? -cough-separate balance for all 3 modes-cough-

Please show us on the doll where the warrior, mesmer and ranger touched you.

~ Kovu

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Extremely skeptical about this…

The “competive month” that was supposed to be all about patches and changes to competitive game modes brought barely nothing to WvW with all the supposed “hype”.

Now don’t get me wrong, the ascended items for WvW and the legendary backpiece are certainly a plus, but the pip acquisition is mediocre and the skirmish chests rewards are laughable.

Now add that to the fact that this was the highlight update of the “Competitive Month Feature Pack”, the absolute lack of WvW stuff in the expansion release draws a very despairing picture to the future of WvW.

We will see if this is a wrong impression, but I seriously don’t believe that there will be any worthwhile news this week.

My money stays safe in my wallet and if all I have to look forward with the expansion is “Condi Powercreep to the Max!”, my time will also go to another game.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

As several people mentioned, and Mo mentioned in the AMA, we release on our own cadence and will continue to release updates for WvW outside of the expansion release.

I also wanted to let everyone know that today is all about announcing the expansion, but later this week we will be talking about some of the upcoming updates for WvW.

Do something for roamers in wvw,and start looking at downstate already its carrying way too hard.

Jana.6831:

XenesisII.1540:

Oh you’re right, that thief is the only one that can pull that off. Please buff thieves along with their upcoming long range sniper rifle. Thank you.

You didn’t get the point. But other than that the skill level of the players has dramatically fallen the past 2 years, so they don’t understand what ‘balance’ even is. So, I don’t blame you – just jump on the ‘NERF THIEVES’ bandwagon every chance you get – the word ‘thief’ is enough – although technically 99,9% of them are daredevils.

Sorry but it’s hard to take any thief seriously when they talk about another class’s damage, when they have the potential to be the top damage dealer and top mobile class in the game. That warriors damage didn’t look that bad to me, only one attack was over 5k the rest were mid 2k crits, I’m sure you even had time to reset the fight if needed.

Other than that yes balance has been a mess since the expansion, NO CLASS should be able to 2 shot any class, and conditions with passives along with the stat combinations have really screwed up balance. I don’t expect that will change with the next expansion.