With the introduction of ascended armor and weapons and even trinkets way back when, WvW badge gear is pointless to have. Back when GW2 was released and there was no upward gear progression having an alternate set of “WvW gear” with a different set of runes was fine. Now with ascended gear being the BiS having a alt set of exotic wvw gear makes you under powered.
With this being the case, all those sigils and runes in exotic wvw gear are wasted simply because we cannot salvage them. Fix this please. I know how long this has been an issue but fix this problem. I dont have 30-60 gold to simply replace 1 set of runes on 1 set of armor on 1 character when I have 8 characters to gear up each with this problem.
depends on the gear really, also the main difference in performance lies with the weapons, not the armor.
The armor is barely 10% boost to stats, the weapons give you over 15% stats between the increased base damage and increased stats alongside extra slots for power/precision/condition damage infusions.
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Trinkets (easy to get) and Weapons (painful to get but effective) are all a player needs to still be highly competitive. Armor is just a bonus.
The only time ascended really comes into play is when the fight is out manned or a player grabs a hold of a highly skilled player. We have an ele in our small guild that will tear 99% of most players up when he is naked.
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I use Exotic armor with ascended weapons/trinkets, and I have from little to no trouble with being par with people on WvW. And except for the weapon, you can get all that from solely WvW.
Also, the gear isn’t salvagable, because people would just keep buying it and salvaging it for ectos/dark matter, screwing the market (That’s the same reason why temple gear isn’t salvageble). I don’t know why I can’t dump them on the mystic toilet tho (you can mystic toilet temple gear).
If you problem is the runeset on your armor, I remember that you could transfer the runes using transmutation crystals to you new gear. But now with the new patch, I don’t know if this is still possible.
I really like that idea. some mystic forge way of geting ascended gear that is directly tied to the gift of battle that works on WvW gear. Maybe tie in 50 ectos like the ascended laurel trinkets.
Trinkets (easy to get) and Weapons (painful to get but effective) are all a player needs to still be highly competitive. Armor is just a bonus.
^^^^ This. The 10% plus in stats on the armor sounds a lot but in reality the difference over exotic armor is miniscule. 10% extra precision at level 80 is like 1% crit chance, or 100HP on a warrior 110 extra armor. not what I would call game breaking. The weapon gives 5% extra damage on top of extra stats which is a pretty big difference.
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Also, the Upgrade Extractor Tool argument still stand.
Yeah, great, now we need to spend an additional 50 gems to get an Extractor, which, unlike the old Transmutation Crystals, doesn’t seem to drop as part of normal gameplay.
Julie, you CANNOT salvage armor purchased with wvw badges.
You missed the “If its a salvagable item”.
Also, the Upgrade Extractor Tool argument still stand.
It costs less in gold to purchase an exotic off the TP than it does to purchase the gems for a single extraction kit. The argument might hold validity, but it’s wildly unpractical. Bl salvage kits can be obtained for free.
None of this quibbling over how well people can play changes the FACT that exotic gear is substandard now. Upgrades are also locked into any exotics bought from a karma or WvW vendor unless you are willing to spend 2-5 times as much gold for one of those stupid overpriced extractors as you would on a new rune.
I have 2 sets of divinity runes and 2 sets of melandru runes and 3 sets of soldier/trooper runes sitting in substandard gear. Thats roughly 250 gold in runes that would cost me about 675 gold to recover with the only option available. Simply put the upgrade extractor argument stands on quicksand.
Exotics are competitive with ascended, they are a bit worse but nothing a bit of player skill can’t overcome. You definitely do not need ascended armour/weapons to have plenty of fun and kills in WvW.
Exotics are competitive with ascended, they are a bit worse but nothing a bit of player skill can’t overcome. You definitely do not need ascended armour/weapons to have plenty of fun and kills in WvW.
Weapons do make a big differences though, not only do you get more stats but it is also a 5% damage modifier.
Be careful what you wish for, Anet might just give it to you “HoT”
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I should image a mystic forge sollution for this. Gift of battle+original piece+vision chrystal+ xy ecto = original piece in ascended version.
This seems like a good solution to me, although the ascended version would have to keep the rune! The addition of a higher WvW rank needed for this (1-200?) might also help keeping non-WvW players from exploiting this. Although, with EotM being as it is, it’s pretty easy to farm WvW rank…
Also, the Upgrade Extractor Tool argument still stand.
Yeah, great, now we need to spend an additional 50 gems to get an Extractor, which, unlike the old Transmutation Crystals, doesn’t seem to drop as part of normal gameplay.
Isn’t the extractor a permanent item? Buy it once and use it forever?
[edit]Nope, nvm, it’s not permanent.
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No, why would you be able to buy them in bulk of 25 if they were permanent?
I have issues with this as well. It doesn’t seem fair that players that dungeon run can profit from their dungeon gear, but players in WvW that farm badges all day can’t make profit off of their gear? Seems a bit one sided.
For those that argue that the market will sink one way or another because of all the badges in the market, what about those players that had all those dungeon tokens when patch got because they had nothing to spend em on? It takes about a week of farming Zergs to get roughly 1000 badges, gear costs around 50-100 badges. So in a week of Badge farming you can get roughly 10-20 armor pieces. Dungeon tokens? You can get 180-240 from each dungeon per day for the first run, further runs show diminishing returns, but still in a week that’s what, 1260-1680 per dungeon per week. 7-9 pieces of Exotic armor a week PER dungeon. There’s what 8 dungeons? Come on 60+ Wxotic armor a week by farming dungeons? You can’t get anywhere close to thts in WvW with Badges.
Why can’t we salvage our WvW Badge bought gear?? Makes no sense at all!!
And if the change is made, we should still be able to get our inscriptions and insignias as a chance in the drop table from Badge gear. Don’t screw us out of that much
I was wrong in my original post too. WvW gear costs Gold plus Badges. Gloves, the cheapest, costs 80silver and 120 badges. Buying gear straight out with badges costs 213 Badges, but the gear if I’m not mistaken is only level 75, and I believe you can only get Soldiers that way.
And Karma gear, really? After all those nerfs to Karma we still can’t salvage the gear for some profit? It’s such a pain to farm for karma anymore, why can we make profit from it yet? The only things I purchase with karma are Salvage Kits, and temple Accessories like Cavaliers, that you can only get there and maybe in EotM.
I was wrong in my original post too. WvW gear costs Gold plus Badges. Gloves, the cheapest, costs 80silver and 120 badges. Buying gear straight out with badges costs 213 Badges, but the gear if I’m not mistaken is only level 75, and I believe you can only get Soldiers that way.
Exotic gear is still suitable for many classes. Esp in zerg warfare. If we start talking about 1v1 and roaming then the tides turn and the OP is spot on.
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Exotic gear is still suitable for many classes. Esp in zerg warfare. If we start talking about 1v1 and roaming then the tides turn and the OP is spot on.
It doesnt matter whether it is still suitable. All Acended gear gives better stats. I dont care that a full ascended rabid only makes my bleeds tick for 2 more points per tick. But with the changes to transmutations and such there are still multiple sets of substandard gear in my inventory that should be salvagable.
The arguments about the TP being sent into convulsions with all the new material being injected into the market would simply expedite the forced deflation of the tp economy that Anet is maneuvering towards and it wouldn’t have that big of an effect except on a few specific markets.
Exotic is no longer best-in-slot, that part is true. To be substandard though, a majority of other players would have to be in Ascended gear. Considering the price, I’m not sure we’re to that point yet.
Exotic is no longer best-in-slot, that part is true. To be substandard though, a majority of other players would have to be in Ascended gear. Considering the price, I’m not sure we’re to that point yet.
And I’m sure, many aren’t even caring about getting it, as it’s stat boost is somewhat subpar…
