Guild Wars 2

And…still no hotfix.

Oh how I miss the old WvW devs. This game wasn’t nearly as bad until Devon came on board

lemora.1304:

Oh how I miss the old WvW devs. This game wasn’t nearly as bad until Devon came on board

Devon isn’t a dev, but good try.

Doesn’t matter. He’s in charge of WvW now and there’s been nothing but outrage

lemora.1304:

Doesn’t matter. He’s in charge of WvW now and there’s been nothing but outrage

A lot of people share your view, but it is not one person’s fault.

Thanks for the free 5 flips of CD’s valley ANet.

Vash.9183:

lemora.1304:

Doesn’t matter. He’s in charge of WvW now and there’s been nothing but outrage

A lot of people share your view, but it is not one person’s fault.

It’s the QA department’s fault, if you ask me. They continually allow changes in that haven’t been adequately tested, and regression bugs run rampant every time a release comes out.

They need a huge overhaul.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Thanks for the free 5 flips of CD’s valley ANet.

What else are people supposed to do

I tell people now to upgrade nothing but cannons – at least they’ll get some Wexp and loot – before porting out and then retaking!

Actually i dont mind siege is not working the game is called " Guild Wars" not Siege Wars.

Chaosky.5276:

We attempted using omegas for defense.

It was horrendously ineffective, but awesome.

Also, no siege sure is fun when the enemy massively outnumbers you.

Omega’s, when used in a zerg, actually put out some nice dps

Vash.9183:

lemora.1304:

Doesn’t matter. He’s in charge of WvW now and there’s been nothing but outrage

A lot of people share your view, but it is not one person’s fault.

Except that most people don’t.

lemora.1304:

Oh how I miss the old WvW devs. This game wasn’t nearly as bad until Devon came on board

Devon is very commutative, much more so then the person before him, don’t discourage him! Sure, traps were >terrible,< and we’re still waiting for some exciting map changes, but Devon probably isn’t a programer and can’t make the siege fix come out any faster ~ ; ;.

If he’s so communicative why didn’t he tell anyone about the buffs to arrow carts beforehand? Or the implementation of traps? Face it these people at Anet are off in their own little world where everything is rainbows and unicorns.

lordkrall.7241:

Nuvo.5014:

Fanboy!!!. Any normal mmo when they find a problem like this (Siege is basic for wvw) they just tunr off the area, map, etc… till they fix it, and normally they fix it in a few hour no a few days. This is just the lack of respect that anet has toward the wvw community.

And funnily enough I would actually think that people would whine even more if they turned off WvW. WvW is still very much playable, it just focuses more on open fighting than taking towers.

Different games have different code-structure, and also different issues and therefore takes different kind of time to fix. Quite logical.
Personally I have seen quite a few other MMOs where issues that made certain content in the game completely unplayable have been left into the game until the next big update.

Seriously, how many alts does Gaile Gray have?

lemora.1304:

Oh how I miss the old WvW devs. This game wasn’t nearly as bad until Devon came on board

nah thats not true.he answers way more in the forums and really seems to try his best. attacking him like this is a little unfair.

lemora.1304:

If he’s so communicative why didn’t he tell anyone about the buffs to arrow carts beforehand? Or the implementation of traps? Face it these people at Anet are off in their own little world where everything is rainbows and unicorns.

This statement couldn’t be any more pedantic. Arrow Carts were mentioned beforehand, so were other various things. While Devon has been on board, the Glicko Ghetto was temp fixed while they came up with a solution to implement Glicko2 like it was originally designed for, which is HUGE for matches.

Blaming one person for the failure the QA department (yet kittening again), just further displays your failure to not only comprehend how design and development works but your inadequacy to weigh in on the argument other than to kitten for the sake of kittening.

Three words – Public Test Realm.

It amazes me that sweeping changes are apparently made without playtesting.

whasts going on O.o why cant we drop anything??

Dhampyr.2104:

Three words – Public Test Realm.

It amazes me that sweeping changes are apparently made without playtesting.

And it amazes me how preachers of the PTRs seems to ignore the fact that they usually don’t help anyway.

Fort Aspenwood is not happy We could have held first place if it wasn’t for this bug! Thanks A-net for working hard to get this problem fixed!

Jhawk.1360:

Fort Aspenwood is not happy We could have held first place if it wasn’t for this bug! Thanks A-net for working hard to get this problem fixed!

You guys did an amazing job holding your Overlook Keep las night in EB for as long as you did, with little to no siege ; A ;.

Jhawk.1360:

Fort Aspenwood is not happy We could have held first place if it wasn’t for this bug! Thanks A-net for working hard to get this problem fixed!

The same thing happened with SF last night, we were holding the lead through the week, the second we lost siege those golem zergs just flopped us and IoJ with having no real deterrent.

I hope the bug fix will be implemented soon.

WvW has become golem-and-gigantic-zerg wars 2 since yesterday. >__<;;;

Can you imagine what will happen on reset night if this doesn’t get fixed.

Fix your game.

I cannot believe you still cannot drop siege.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Can you imagine what will happen on reset night if this doesn’t get fixed.

I know right.

May the ones with the most golems, biggest zerg and finest PvDoor skill win the game.

No arrow cart, not bad this patch ^^

DevonCarver.5370:

We’ve found a bug in the siege cap and are working on addressing the problem as soon as we can.

Gee you don’t say… pat that QA guy on the back for us will ya.. impressive stuff.

Or maybe it was intended so’s to eliminate DL’s use of zoom hacking on tower siege

I’m mostly shocked at the lack of any communication since the initial “Oh, we’re looking into it”. If it’s going to be a couple of days, we’re just going to throw the match instead of putting in extra (painful) time toward a lost cause.

lordkrall.7241:

Dhampyr.2104:

Three words – Public Test Realm.

It amazes me that sweeping changes are apparently made without playtesting.

And it amazes me how preachers of the PTRs seems to ignore the fact that they usually don’t help anyway.

Why don’t PTRs work? I was going to agree with the comment, that any sort of change should be tested in a sandbox like this. Having a copy of the game running on a separate cluster seems like a no-brainer to me. The tests to run can be exhaustive, but that’s what automated testing scripts are for, to do a lot of the heavy lifting.

The next step after confirming it is getting it fixed. As it isn’t fixed yet no post is to be expected.

Although it would be nice for devon to step in each day and say that they are still working on it, it is unneeded.

Esprit Dumort.3109:

lordkrall.7241:

Dhampyr.2104:

Three words – Public Test Realm.

It amazes me that sweeping changes are apparently made without playtesting.

And it amazes me how preachers of the PTRs seems to ignore the fact that they usually don’t help anyway.

Why don’t PTRs work? I was going to agree with the comment, that any sort of change should be tested in a sandbox like this. Having a copy of the game running on a separate cluster seems like a no-brainer to me. The tests to run can be exhaustive, but that’s what automated testing scripts are for, to do a lot of the heavy lifting.

Serious answer:

Because PTR’s don’t get any amount of people actually playing on them in the same way they play on live. End of story. Most people just jump onto PTR’s to spoil upcoming content and don’t actually participate in any level of actual testing.

I would rate that finding this siege bug on a PTR would be highly unlikely because that would require player testers jumping into PTR wvw to actually care enough to deploy enough siege to find this bug. Its better to update the QA testing script based on this new bug to be sure it doesn’t happen again.

Sorrow’s Furnace is still having problem with siege. only equipment that can be dropped currently is golems.

It’s always possible that the version tested in house performed properly and the version released didn’t. Sometimes little things go wrong or 1 guy who needs a cup of coffee goobers something up.

These kinds of mistakes ARE getting old, but I plan on being in the gaming industry one day so I DO sympathize with the onus that developers take on. It’s no easy task at all and 95% of the posters whining and complaining likely couldn’t handle the job even if trained. It’s pretty tough honestly.

People have all these stars in their eyes about what it’s like to work for a game company. It’s pretty soulcrushing at times, they do it because they love it and they hate seeing this kind of stuff just as much as we do.

Loyo.8526:

Sorrow’s Furnace is still having problem with siege. only equipment that can be dropped currently is golems.

There are a lot of us on DH that cant even play, much less worry about whether or not siege can be placed. :\ Dont know if its the same for your server, but the siege issues are one of the least concerns for some of us right now. Game is 100% unplayable for me and some others I have spoken to about it.

:’(

We can’t place siege but some on the opposing servers are managing it. As a result we are have gone from slightly ahead to rapidly losing ground as they steamroll us.

Well done. So after the last update you cannot drop any siege yet the enemy can, the game crashes all the time. Servers who have worked hard for their ranks falling behind, upgrades on keeps are bugged. And you have acknowledged most of this but seem unable to fix it. Maybe in future you will actually test what you are about to release because people wont take days like today forever!

Vash.9183:

lemora.1304:

Doesn’t matter. He’s in charge of WvW now and there’s been nothing but outrage

A lot of people share your view, but it is not one person’s fault.

A lot of people don’t. There are far bigger screw ups in other games that this doesn’t seem nearly as big a deal. At least they’re trying to evolve the game. Voice your displeasure but let’s not attack the devs for trying to do their job. Everybody messes up sometimes.

lordkrall.7241:

Dhampyr.2104:

Three words – Public Test Realm.

It amazes me that sweeping changes are apparently made without playtesting.

And it amazes me how preachers of the PTRs seems to ignore the fact that they usually don’t help anyway.

PTR’s help…However how much they help is based on the Company that’s running the game.

You’d be amazed how much stuff is reported in these MMO’s to the developers, The developers know its on the Test server, but they go a head and push the patch Live because they think the risk isn’t that bad.

Its not surprising this bug did go live though, They don’t have a large testing community that a PTR server would bring….mainly cause Anet is Cheap..

It`s not funny anymore…

Feel likes is aprils fool joke… hey we gonna give you free siege with those chests you zerged so hard for….. but guess what!!!! you cant use them muhahahaha.

Was kinda funny the first night, but now its boring….. do we have enough people to zerg that gate or do we need a golem??

Tbh no point playing atm, unless if have more than the other side then u cant do anything, and anyone thats played against the german servers will feel the pain I am.

Its funny that PVE content bugs get fixed within 1 hour, and WvW.. och who am I kidding its old news right

I LOVE this, no arrowcarts, only golems.

WvWvW has not been so much fun in ages.

Can we keep it please.

If this was letting us earn gold it would have been hotfixed yesterday and that is the sad truth.

It’s been far too long since the patch was released. This needs to be hotfixed. I’d be willing to risk skipping their (already horrid) QA process if we can get a fix for this tonight…

I hate how PVE bugs gets fixed asap. WvW needs more love

Isle of Janthir. This is the 2nd day of not being able to drop siege, arrow carts, balistas, flame rams, trebuchets, catapults. We are able to build golems. This makes it impossible to protect our towers. Our enemies are able to set up siege against us. Our enemies can build arrow carts, balistas, flame rams, trebuchets and catapults on Isle of Janthir. This makes it a very unfair advantage to all of our enemies.

Seren.6850:

If this was letting us earn gold it would have been hotfixed yesterday and that is the sad truth.

This is so sad.. but so true.

Before the filter gets me im gonna do it myself.
What the kitten has anet been doing all the kittening time since yesterday? it’s been kittening hours since the bug was discovered and reported yet no kitten fix has been kittening released. How much longer must we wait till the kitten fix comes? This is a kitten in the kitten with the kitten of the kitten. Kittening kitten of the kitten!!

XIII.6351:

I hate how PVE bugs gets fixed asap. WvW needs more love

Devon has said in previous posts that they discriminate against the minority. The wvw team can’t implement anything unless they run it through the pve guys first. Kinda sad when this game is called guild wars and not npc wars.