My thoughts on the three new gemstore armor sets Flamekissed, Flamewalker and Flamewrath:
The good
Love the names. They made me super-excited to see the new armor sets in the PvP locker.
The price is ok. After the price for the unlimited gathering tools went up and the toxic skins were more expensive, I expected worse.
The not so good
Fire… again? What’s with the fire fetish, ANet? That’s like the fourth or fifth set of burning gloves…
Disappointed that it’s not new skins, but existing skins with added particle effects
Disappointed that the armor sets have no relation to the living story update (unlike the toxic, aetherblade and belated Rox/Braham skins).
I am even more disappointed when awesome new skins are created and no story goes with them (viper set, magitech set…)
Using cultural armor was a poor choice for two reasons.
One, Some people are understandably cranky that their already bought 100+ gold armor set is now in the gem store with added particle effects for less than half of what they spent (including transmutation crystals).
And two, now the entire debate of making cultural armor sets available for all races will start again. So the concept of cultural armor is going out of the window, … when can I have heavy human T3 for my norn?
Room for improvement
This entire armor set, despite being old skins, would sell like hot cakes if the particle effect could be died. Most people I know in game are really really over fire/lava by now, but it would be easy to dye this into ice, mist, shadow, green necro magic, pink mesmer magic, or to go with their fractal weapons, dreamthistle weapons, etc. etc. etc…. I guess I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t make that happen. Players would shower you in money.
New gem store armor with particle effects could have been reskins of the PvP-only armor sets that players have been asking for for so long. (Soulmyr.8094)
New gem store armor with particle effects could have been reskins using of some of the popular NPC town clothes sets that players have been asking for for so long. (Celestina.2894)
Reskins of prestige armor such as cultural T3 could have been released (bit by bit) through mystic forge or crafting upgrades of existing (already bought) cultural armor pieces. (PopeUrban.2578)
A gem store component used in the crafting/MF to enhance an existing piece of cultural armor to include particle effects would have been ok.
If you must put cultural armor in the gem store, do it for all sets. (Creativewild.6319)
While we don’t expect you to fix charr tail compatibility for every single existing armor set, we would ask you to take better care of this and other clipping issues for gem store sets (due to their price, and because only 1-3 new sets are made available at a time). (LadyRhonwyn.2501)
Edited to include valuable feedback from commenters Cultural armor criticism is no longer valid, but the other points still stand!
This entire armor set, despite being old skins, would sell like hot cakes if the particle effect could be died. Most people I know in game are really really over fire/lava by now, but it would be easy to dye this into ice, mist, shadow, green necro magic, pink mesmer magic… I guess I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t make that happen. Players would shower you in money.
Yes please with sugar on top!
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It really bothers me that the light is human t3. I spent a fair bit of money to get that armor, now it’s in the gem store with particle effects. :/
With that being said, If I could dye the flames on the gem store armor, I would totally buy it. Guess that makes me a hypocrite.
I agree for the the most part, too many armors now have fire effects, although I do like that the light armor skin is basically t3 human so you don’t have to spend over 100g to get the full set but just 10 bucks instead.
I agree for the the most part, too many armors now have fire effects, although I do like that the light armor skin is basically t3 human so you don’t have to spend over 100g to get the full set but just 10 bucks instead.
See, I always defended the concept of cultural armor. NOW I don’t know anymore why I can’t have heavy human T3 for my norn.
I am extremely disappointed in how they’ve basically trivialized the amount of Gold I invested in getting the Cultural Tier 3 Human Light armor. Not to mention how they trivialize how it is a Cultural armor set that was supposed to be for Humans only, but now any race can use. Lazy, ArenaNet, lazy.
It really bothers me that the light is human t3. I spent a fair bit of money to get that armor, now it’s in the gem store with particle effects. :/
With that being said, If I could dye the flames on the gem store armor, I would totally buy it. Guess that makes me a hypocrite.
Yes I agree why the hell our tier 3 is available to everyone? if is not cultural anymore you(anet) can give me back the gold i spent plus the transmutation stones. This just show the lack of respect for the hard work of player that spend months to get the gold to buy it and now is available to everyone.
As a “armor lover” I’m just kitten ed of they re-used armor skins. I get that it takes time and effort to make new armor skins but like I said once, if you don’t want to go all the way Anet then don’t go at all. Re-using skins and especially a skin that’s exclusive to human characters is just wrong. Also not being able to fully dye my armor is wrong as well in my eyes.
I’m planning on getting the T3 armor and the medium WvW armor skin. I would get it from the gemstore now instead but seeing as how you can’t dye the the flames I’d rather get the original.
As with every unique armor/weapon skin, you paid gold to have it first. I was upset when they made fused weapon skins as others, sellable. When they did that I basically lost the 300g I could have made by selling my fused GS skin I got before they were sellable.
Why would you RUIN a T3 CULTURAL armor for putting it on the gem store? Are you freaking kittening me? Seriously, sometimes I wonder…ANet…you have some heavy AAA games to compete with next year, better watch out.
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Precisely. The new armour sets are a joke. Please, add some new effects to an already existing piece of armour = ANet policy. Bravo. It’s pathetic, really..
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I agree with what you have said about how it was very very bad for them to have just put particle effects on human T3, very very very very bad indeed. I also agree that it is about time we get a chance to dye particle effects on other pieces in the game (saying other pieces, because I would rather see the Flamekissed armor be taken down and not put into the game, for obvious reasons)
And every single one clipps for charr. The meduíum one looks horrible on charr My main is a medium armour character……… WHEN is there going to be ONE more good looking medium armour piece for charr?
This makes me so sad!
And they are just remade existiong ones…. I actually expected NEW skins.
A bit disapointed actually.
So what we are going to do about it, then? Are we going to just let this… “insult” exist in the game? Are we going to let Arena Net ruin the experience we get from playing it? I can’t believe they ruined the idea of cultural armor with such… weak reskin. And putting it into gemstore, allowing it to be bought by other races… it’s just…. outrageous! We are the community, and if we stand up to say a word, Arena Net should listen to us! Make a poll, let Arena Net know we are frustrated for what They have done.
Well I only read about the new armor sets tonight when the patch notes went up, so I didn’t have much time to get my hopes up… and I don’t want to be unfair. Still, these skins were arbitrarily selected/combined, with no relation to anything happening in game (temporary or permanent), and the rest. I think it is ok to criticize.
What’s next? A green predator with water effecvts or a red flameseeker with flame effects for 1000 gem? This game is already a pay2win game, but we not got more strenght, we omnly got pathetic reskins, buggy patches, shllaow repetable killing xy and search z contents, and story? where is that? sry for my eng, but this is simply pathetic.
And for anet lovers, watch the gw1 in-game store after 8 year: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_In-Game_Store
And we got the all armor sets on the last 2 year before gw2 is released…
On one hand I understand the outrage about placing an updated version of a +100g skin, specially if you like fire effects (I wouldn’t unless I could dye the flames)… on the other hand I kinda wish it starts as a new trend for anet… mainly because I want a version of the asura T3 medium helm for my charr engineer (I’d settle for T2 as well)..
It’s a pile of Elonian protection magic, mixed with a little monk training,
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.
What’s next? A green predator with water effecvts or a red flameseeker with flame effects for 1000 gem? This game is already a pay2win game, but we not got more strenght, we omnly got pathetic reskins, buggy patches, shllaow repetable killing xy and search z contents, and story? where is that? sry for my eng, but this is simply pathetic.
And for anet lovers, watch the gw1 in-game store after 8 year: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_In-Game_Store
And we got the all armor sets on the last 2 year before gw2 is released…
Sad thing is, after this armor situation, I wouldn’t be shocked.
SMH on this, really. Just why…You (ANet) had to know it would kitten a lot of people off…
It’s a slap in the face for those of us that did spend over 100 gold.
Indeed. I use Sylvari T3 and I would be pretty ticked off if they made them available in the gem store, with added particle effects, and open to any race.
This is one instance where I can definitely say that those that bought T3 human cultural should be refunded their gold because I know that if they knew it would be available at a later date for gems they would not have wasted the money on it in the first place. 80g ~=~ 1600 gems last I checked. If they are 800 gems, we’re looking at 40g, practically 1/3 the cost of buying the cultural from the vendor.
I’m sure the argument is that they are technically different, but come on, that’s BS.
Yeah I agree with making T3 Cultural available to every race now, and no level requirement, or RACE requirement, which kind of defeats the purpose. Plus it’s cheaper and with arguably cooler particle effects. Really now, the only reason to get the ACTUAL cultural is for the achievements. I feel like this was a poor choice on Anet’s part and feel bad for the people who actually spend money and crystals on REAL Cultural.
It’s a slap in the face for those of us that did spend over 100 gold.
Indeed. I use Sylvari T3 and I would be pretty ticked off if they made them available in the gem store, with added particle effects, and open to any race.
This is one instance where I can definitely say that those that bought T3 human cultural should be refunded their gold because I know that if they knew it would be available at a later date for gems they would not have wasted the money on it in the first place. 80g ~=~ 1600 gems last I checked. If they are 800 gems, we’re looking at 40g, practically 1/3 the cost of buying the cultural from the vendor.
I’m sure the argument is that they are technically different, but come on, that’s BS.
Some would/could argue that since the gem store ones have the effects, they are better, for less price… hmm
First, I’m going to buy the gem armor because I’ve always liked the light t3 armor even if it does have fire on it. But consider yourself lucky that you only lost 100g since everyone who had ticket weapon skins before they were sellable lost way more.
Bravo Anet. Now please make something about… hmm refund maybe? For those ppl who spends over 100g for t3 cultural light human set, or make others t3 available for every race.
I would rather they never, ever try to sell me armor skins I can get in the game, for real money. Like, ever again. I’m a huge supporter of new armor skins in the gem shop, always have been…But I want to see new skins, not the same ones I can get in the game with ugly effects added to them. If you’re going to design armor with effects added to them and sell them to us then fine, but make the skins unique and original to go along with the effects.
They need to add all other cultural armors to the gemstore available for all races. Otherwise its not really fair… If i would have known they were going to do this i would have made a norn and bought t3 light instead of making a human specifically for t3 >.< ugh
They need to add all other cultural armors to the gemstore available for all races. Otherwise its not really fair… If i would have known they were going to do this i would have made a norn and bought t3 light instead of making a human specifically for t3 >.< ugh
So good that Monster Hunter Online coming out in 2014..I can imagine my charr t3 heavy next in the shop, basically the last thing that keep me playing a charr race. I can imagine human players, and i feel sorry for them for the first time.
Stretched armor is stretched, reskined is reskined but when they release out a cultural armor to everyone..as some salad head says “its will not end well”
Bravo Anet. Now please make something about… hmm refund maybe? For those ppl who spends over 100g for t3 cultural light human set, or make others t3 available for every race.
But 100g is only a number….so many people said to those of us who lost our levels in FOTM…when we warned that it is not the loss of levels that is the problem, it was the cavalier way that ANET chooses to trivialize something we worked hard for….
First they came for our fractal number…and we said “its only a number”
Then they took our T3 cultural….and its “only a skin”.
LOL, sorry to be so dramatic, but this patch has kind of ticked off a lot of people! Some of the same people telling the FOTM people to quit QQ’ing are now QQ’ing themselves over the loss of Human T3 specialty!
Using human cultural armor was a poor choice for two reasons.
One, Some people are understandably cranky that their already bought 100+ gold armor set is now in the gem store with added particle effects.
And two, now the entire debate of making cultural armor sets available for all races will start again. So the concept of cultural armor is going out of the window, when can I have heavy human T3 for my norn?
Basically only this…
Plus the fact that you have to spend 120 gold and 200+ gems (fine stones) to use the T3 cultural on your actual armor, and now you can get the same armor (with cool effects) for 800 gems, with the pro to be a skin.
Using human cultural armor was a poor choice for two reasons.
One, Some people are understandably cranky that their already bought 100+ gold armor set is now in the gem store with added particle effects.
And two, now the entire debate of making cultural armor sets available for all races will start again. So the concept of cultural armor is going out of the window, when can I have heavy human T3 for my norn?
Basically only this…
Plus the fact that you have to spend 120+ gold and 200+ gems to use the T3 cultural on your actual armor, and now you can get the same armor (with cool effects) for 800 gems, with the pro to be a skin.
Totally agree with that. ANet should make better decision to not let us begin flame on forum.
A sugestion can be to push down the cost of the culturals and if u heading to release some thing like this one u need to plan it for all race and for all type of armor (ex. you do this for light t3 human? you have to do it for medium t3 human and heavy t3 human, and in the next release you release other races as well)
I’m just as bothered by their choice of medium and heavy armor as i am with the whoring of t3 cultural light armor. Really? Pit fighter armor? WvW armor? Couldn’t you have chosen something that actually looks good? Something with at least one good piece of armor I can put into my set? The light armor will sell, but I doubt I’ll see many people running around with the other two.
Though, I may buy it and mix it in with my current t3 light armor. The shoulders are good looking, and the leggings aren’t bad but maybe too much. I don’t know, I really don’t feel like supporting it at the same time.
I would be okay spending 400-800 gems upgrading our armor we already have, but to sell it flat out in the gem store is disappointing to say the least.
haha my sylvari is getting that t3 for only 50g with flame effect!!!
“i think it’s an underserved nerf. now we have to slot a stun breaker??”
“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
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believe me when i say this, i spend a lot of money on this game to now have this only thing that was specific to the human is now trivialized, just to give an idea, if i put all my NcSoft transaction to buy gems since the 3 days head start it will easily go over 2000 pounds. And you (Anet) can check and confirm that. This is the kind of player you are making just quit the game due to the lack of respect for the money/work we put into the game. :C
But this game is all about nice looking skins, so what they do is p2win, for example in another game you have to grind for armor with better stats, and devs adding in game shop best armor for $.
Well, the light armor skin choice really blew up. Wasn’t even the focus of this thread. There is more that is worth mentioning, for instance that the Invaders set is one of the least popular medium sets. Also… great idea to make the belt glow on the pants, you can’t even see the belt on medium armor (almost all sets) because trench coats.
The pitfighter one is the only one that I think looks kind of cool with added effects, but I’m not interested in fire.
Honestly the medium set was given a similar treatment when achievement rewards came out.
I got mine originally by doing a lot of work, then they just started handing out wvw tokens for jumping off of things and doing hearts and logging in and whatnot.
Despite the fact that they might look pretty cool, this is a bad move by Anet. This should be the kind of thing that ascended armor becomes, improving existing armor sets with some sparkly customizable bits. Re-skins with shiny effects shouldn’t be in the gem store.
This surprised me, I expected more because of the previous sets. The light not only looks better(imo), but is cheaper than the cultural. Kills the whole point of cultural armors, I appreciate the idea, but seriously, at least don’t put it in the gem shop. If you’re reskinning it, just put it into the vendor as an exotic one and cost a slightly more.
So we basically now know what ArenaNet thinks gems are worth. 120 gold + 6 transmutation crystals.
Whats more laughable is, that we get a wonderful light armor, and the crap of the game as medium and heavy.
And I’d guess the dyable flame would be a dealwinner here.
I guess it depends on your tastes, the light one is the worst looking one out of those (I’ve never been a fan of human cultural light armor)… and ironically the medium one is the one I like better out of those…. however, I completely understand the outrage of whoever bought human T3 armor beforehand and did it because of its looks/exclusivity and not for the achievement.
One thing that’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine…. if they were going to pick up existing armor sets to spice up, could at least have picked some sets that don’t clip with the charr tails, there’s already too few of them as it is, specially medium armors.
It’s a pile of Elonian protection magic, mixed with a little monk training,
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.
My main is a medium armour character……… WHEN is there going to be ONE more good looking medium armour piece for charr? 