Guild Wars 2

i think it will take them some time to properly update the skills tool tip description to reflect what those skills actually do.

perhaps we can help too!

That spite to the Ileap fix is real. I cant blame you Blissless though, that fix was awful and these should get the same treatment as Ileap did.

I’m really impressed by the amount of effort you put together for that whole list of bugs.

Let’s hope this thread will get its rightfully attention and have all those unintended bugs fixed.

I agree that those skills not matching their respective tooltip doesn’t seem balanced at all. The bug fix to Illusionary Leap is the first step in the right direction. I am also very thankful to the balance team for their continual effort and QoL improvements.

Here is the reference to the iLeap bug fix listed in the previous patch note:

“Illusionary Leap: Fixed a bug that allowed players to swap places with their clone after it was destroyed.”

Clearly the fix to the iLeap bug, which is contrary to tooltip description, sets the standard balancing approach for the rest of other skill bugs across other professions.

I also look forward to the rest of those listed bugs corrected in the near future. Thanks for the effort, Shimmerless, you have saved the balance team a lot of time with these compilated bugs info!

You’re really suggesting more tooltip changes?

Phaeton.9582:

You’re really suggesting more tooltip changes?

The Tooltips are correct. The Q/A team has already done passes on Tooltips in the past. The most recent change to iLeap fix is a bug fix. Please refer to my post in the above for its reference on the bug fix.

Phaeton.9582:

You’re really suggesting more tooltip changes?

Oh, not at all muffin, I’m suggesting that they follow the lead taken with Illusionary Leap and change the skill to match the tooltip. I know, I know — sounds like a lot of work compared to just rewriting tooltips, but that’s why we’re here to help support our devs in getting their ‘vision’ of the game on track.

Most likely, it would now take 2 more years to fix all this exploits.

I think, while we w8-ing, they could start banning players for using this unintended effects. Exploiting is against Rules of Conduct after all.

Oh man, if you want to start trying to fix every single thing on Necromancer that doesn’t fit the tooltip GW3 will be out before they are done.

hmm your tears are so tasty. Here is a few you seemed to of missed so I’ll post them while you wipe them tears away.

-Diversion: clones will run to the target and then explode, contrary to the description.
-Temporal curtain→ Into the void: pulls foes past its location contrary to the description.
-Prismatic understand: only grants aegis or protection or regen contrary to the description.

I’d go on but this is pretty pointless to start with.

shimmerless.4560:

Phaeton.9582:

You’re really suggesting more tooltip changes?

Oh, not at all muffin, I’m suggesting that they follow the lead taken with Illusionary Leap and change the skill to match the tooltip. I know, I know — sounds like a lot of work compared to just rewriting tooltips, but that’s why we’re here to help support our devs in getting their ‘vision’ of the game on track.

If they did that it would change gameplay completely though… Many skills (such as the eles dragon tooth) get just as much use with no target as with one selected. I don’t see how it would benefit the game to make these skills specifically require a target in order to activate…

Also I like muffins.

Oh wait, I just realized if they fixed Death Shroud to match the tooltip, we’d be able to heal through DS since isn’t listed in the tooltip.

Phaeton.9582:

shimmerless.4560:

Phaeton.9582:

You’re really suggesting more tooltip changes?

Oh, not at all muffin, I’m suggesting that they follow the lead taken with Illusionary Leap and change the skill to match the tooltip. I know, I know — sounds like a lot of work compared to just rewriting tooltips, but that’s why we’re here to help support our devs in getting their ‘vision’ of the game on track.

If they did that it would change gameplay completely though… Many skills (such as the eles dragon tooth) get just as much use with no target as with one selected. I don’t see how it would benefit the game to make these skills specifically require a target in order to activate…

Also I like muffins.

That is the whole flipping point of this thread. The “bugged” illusionary leap was a great way for mesmers to try and survive in the AOE spam fest that is tPvP… Now they just as well delete the class as a whole instead of these needless bugfixes (read nerfs) that keep happening which is shafting this class every month or so.

Given the average IQ of this sub-forum, I think you can forgive me for not appreciating the underlying sarcasm behind the OPs bad suggestions XD

Hehe, the game would be so different if all skills would work exactly as descriped on the tooltip. A lot of other mesmer skills would function a whole lot differently. Like…

Portal: It would actually have entry and exit portals, making it work only one way. No more portaling people inside keeps and towers, except if the mesmer first makes the entry portal out and then walks inside and makes the exit there.

Null Field: Significant boost for this skill. It would remove ALL boons from enemies and cleanse ALL conditions from allies. No pulsing though.

I think those two were the most interesting ones :P

Paavotar.3971:

Null Field: Significant boost for this skill. It would remove ALL boons from enemies and cleanse ALL conditions from allies. No pulsing though.

That would be to OP – ^^ .

lol OP bitter much? I can smell the sea salt hahah. I give you 5/10 for this troll post. FYI mesmer is so op still needs a few more nerfs to be brought in line with other profs.

Oh man.. I had almost gotten over it.. I just got mad again…

Nothing about guardian seems like we are “in a good spot”.

vincecontix.1264:

lol OP bitter much? I can smell the sea salt hahah. I give you 5/10 for this troll post. FYI mesmer is so op still needs a few more nerfs to be brought in line with other profs.

This trolling lol. Honestly saying stuff like this will probably make the devs believe we are actually OP >.<

Warriors can attack after using Impale without getting their sword back via Rip first. This is a clear oversight and should be fixed.

The same goes for Bladetrail, obviously. If the way backwards is blocked or a thief is hit, warrior should be forced to buy a new GS.

This list is gold and hopefully it will help the dev team to fix these bugs. I just fear all the exploiters will hate you for it.

Iavra.8510:

Warriors can attack after using Impale without getting their sword back via Rip first. This is a clear oversight and should be fixed.

The same goes for Bladetrail, obviously. If the way backwards is blocked or a thief is hit, warrior should be forced to buy a new GS.

Don’t let anyone know, but we are the masters of Weapons! We inhale all kinds of metals from the air (obviously from air as it has a lot of these because we keep hitting everything with our weapons, like 100 blading iron nodes) and our body reforms these materials and we magically poop new weapons when needed. We can also hide some of these weapons between our abs.

So basically what happens when warrior throws a bladetrail greatsword is that we throw it, then we pull another exactly same looking GS we have pooped earlier from our abs and swing that. And then when the GS comes back to us (if it comes), it perfectly slides between our abs to be ready for another bladetrail holster weapon, brilliant I say.

It’s pretty much the same with swords, except we hide those in our armpits.

If you are wondering about our axes, we can bend time and space (thats what we call our hair) and make new when ever we need. Therefor axe throw is no problem either.

We are never left without bullets either because our drops of sweat are bullets. Oh and the more angry we are and the more adrenaline there for we have the stronger we pull the trigger when shooting Killshot. Thats why it does more damage, we basically give it a bit more thrust with out anger.

And umm… Arrows… those are our hair from our back. That is the reason why it always looks like we pull arrows from our back even though we don’t have quiver.

I’m not quite sure if I missed anything…

Oh yeah. Beside being the masters of weapons, we are also masters of horror stories. We have advanced our tale telling so much that we can tell you a very scary story in a split second, and the closer you are to us the better you hear the silent finale and therefor stay feared way longer. And because the story is packed in a such fast package it sounds like we shout FEAR ME!

Banners! I’m not quite sure where they come from, but I suppose the small invisible dwarfs keep throwing them up in the air when we so desire.

Paavotar.3971:

Banners! I’m not quite sure where they come from, but I suppose the small invisible dwarfs keep throwing them up in the air when we so desire.

They are gods, its only fair they get air support.

Great work shimm
I hope some1 from anet stuff are watching over this thread

Lol some people don’t get this is a troll post.