Guild Wars 2

Instead of a grenade “kit”, how about a grenade launcher (for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhLxR9u4o4E)

It looks way cooler indeed!

Josh Davis.6015:

Congrats fellow engineers. ^^

congrats? srsly? anet finally did what they should have done long ago.
instead of “congrats” you should rather post “sorry for the last two years we let you down, we decided to finally do our job.”
that said i okittennow you’re not personally responsible for those decisions. someone is, though.

I…I….I can’t handle this news … I have go out and run like an headless chicken for the joy.
brb

Oh My God.8423:

Instead of a grenade “kit”, how about a grenade launcher (for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhLxR9u4o4E)

It looks way cooler indeed!

That’s essentially what mortar is being turned into.

Gern.2978:

Oh My God.8423:

Instead of a grenade “kit”, how about a grenade launcher (for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhLxR9u4o4E)

It looks way cooler indeed!

That’s essentially what mortar is being turned into.

I got the impression that Mortar and/or Mortar F5 (?) will be much closer to an RPG instead, which fits better (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket-propelled_grenade).

I still think a grenade launcher will work better as a new grenade kit both thematically and conceptually.

Hooray for the upcoming death of hobo sacks. Now I can finally start thinking about pimping my engie.

I actually like the current backpack skins. Flamethrower and elixir gun with all the hoses and transparent bottles of fuel or potion. The med kit with its little healing symbol and the little bags and bottles you drop on the ground. I think instead of taking the bags away from everyone that likes them it should have been made an aesthetic you could toggle, just like head gear.

I do appreciate their move

nexxe.7081:

Witaminka.4650:

not final yet, but they are workin on it \o/ bomb/granade/med

Wow, that looks terrible. Thanks to all the whiners for getting this changed.

Now it just looks ridiculous to see an engineer pull a huge keg of powder out of thin air.
I hope there’s an even bigger backlash against this from people in game. The forum whiners are a small minority and Anet totally caved.

Wow…..some people. For all those that liked the Hobosacks, there is still the Hobosack back piece. And a toggle on/off switch would be confusing visual tells for what kit engi is in. Best solution for those that like the Hobosacks is to put them in as regular back pieces in game.

As for the new Grenade Kit and Bomb Kit, I am trusting that the final product is going to look much better………right? O.o

As for Grenade Kit becoming a launcher, I’d have to say know due to the upcoming Mortar changes and because I like the whole grenade tossing animation.

I wonder if the flamethrower (backpack?) or the elixir gun (backpack?) will get some improvements/tweaks.

All of them get a redesign, right now there are just templates and placeholders and unfinished work – don’t worry

What if they used only a single grenade for the model/animation to make it easier/more visually appealing, but it split apart into three grenades close to it’s impact point? Might be too similar to thief cluster-bomb I guess. Though they could probably make it one model and have multiple detonation areas anyway due to shrapnel. Grenade barrage could just be an overpacked/double shrapnel/high explsosive grenade.

On another note, do you think the bomb kit animation ought to be rethought? The constant squatting motion has always looked somewhat awkward. Would something like a mini hand held mine laying machine, or a dynamite stick dispenser work better?

Or maybe a dispenser that emits a stream of gunpowder, and drips out a chemical agent periodically to make the piled up gunpowder explode? The gunpowder stream could switch off when using skills 3 and 5 (instead a different chemical would be dispensed), and spread out when using skill 4, and change color for skill 2.

Eh, I can’t really think of any ways to make these kinds of things look good though.

Hrm, what about an explosive jackhammer? You could probably do some interesting things with that. It sounds very engineer too, although a bit more civil then combat haha.

Siks.1978:

I wonder if the flamethrower (backpack?) or the elixir gun (backpack?) will get some improvements/tweaks.

Yes they are actually. If by improvements/tweaks you mean being removed.

If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!

Create a level 1 engineer today to get your Universal Mulit-Tool pack!

Gern.2978:

If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!

Create a level 1 engineer today to get your Universal Mulit-Tool pack!

Hey! You can’t fool me! That’s not an Engineer! >.<

I’m happy about the removal of hobosacks, but I would have also accepted reskinnable hobosacks. If I could match them to my aesthetic, that would be pretty cool.

Hey, can we make the kit bundles’ appearance vary by race? Different races have different aesthetics and different tech, after all.

(Honestly, I’d also buy turret skins from the gem store as well)

It’s hard to let this thread go.
Nostalgia bump.

Thanks ANet, anyway! <3

I hate to be that guy, but in case this hasn’t been brought up before. I do not see any evidence that legendary effects will persist through kits. So half of the problem with kits will, possibly, not be going away. Sure you won’t see that hobosack anymore, but when your grenade kit is in your hand, your legendary rifle, etc will still be gone. I hope I’m wrong, as I doubt there will be another fix to kits for a long time. I hope they get it right this time.

If kits still make you lose the special effects of your legendary (footsteps, glow) it would be a very disappointing change.

Loboling.5293:

I hate to be that guy, but in case this hasn’t been brought up before. I do not see any evidence that legendary effects will persist through kits. So half of the problem with kits will, possibly, not be going away. Sure you won’t see that hobosack anymore, but when your grenade kit is in your hand, your legendary rifle, etc will still be gone. I hope I’m wrong, as I doubt there will be another fix to kits for a long time. I hope they get it right this time.

If kits still make you lose the special effects of your legendary (footsteps, glow) it would be a very disappointing change.

This one I actually agree with. Please A-net, make our weapons be stowed when we equip a kit, instead of making them disappear like they currently do.

This would also fall in line with the mindset that has delayed the removal of hobosacks for so long: they want us to be able to see what sort of load out an engineer is running. If you see a rifle on the back of an engineer using grenades, then you have a better idea of what kind of capabilities the engineer is bringing to the fight. Fighting an engineer using a rifle is very different than fighting an engineer using a pistol and shield, or pistol/pistol, and certainly will be different than fighting an engineer using a hammer.

one step after another :P tbh i’m not that sad that have different kind of nades isntead of permanently the legy effect. I’m happy about it.

unless they give each skill an unique effect like predator + poison nades = green glow

Lord Aargadon.4135:

Make it happen A.Net. This is what they need to be like when you equip the predator :O

Epic CoF Backpack

Finally! FINALLY!

About stowed weapons when holding a kit, I’m totally for it. Not only it would look cool, but it’s helping understanding the opponent engi build.
It’s looking cool and it’s practical!

About the new kit skins… I don’t mind at all how the engineers hold the bomb kit, but the skin…
It should look like the skill images. It’s looks a bit more like a cartoon bomb, but it’s also easily identifiable.

Same goes for grenades. I don’t mind holding several grenades, but make it look like the grenades thrown, or simply like the skill image. (I admit that it’s not clear on the images posted previously)

EroticAndHeretic.7398:

About the new kit skins… I don’t mind at all how the engineers hold the bomb kit, but the skin…
It should look like the skill images. It’s looks a bit more like a cartoon bomb, but it’s also easily identifiable.

I admit, I’d probably use the bomb kit a lot more if I could look like a cartoon villain running around placing black, round bombs with a lit fuse.

glehmann.9586:

EroticAndHeretic.7398:

About the new kit skins… I don’t mind at all how the engineers hold the bomb kit, but the skin…
It should look like the skill images. It’s looks a bit more like a cartoon bomb, but it’s also easily identifiable.

I admit, I’d probably use the bomb kit a lot more if I could look like a cartoon villain running around placing black, round bombs with a lit fuse.

some days you cant get rid of a bomb

I wonder if they will rename “Backpack Regenerator”, else it would serve as a last hint of the horrors we had to go through.

Gern.2978:

If you are some oddball that liked the look of the hobosacks, well no fear! There is a backpiece for you! Remember the old backpiece you had an option to get just from creating an engineer? The Universal Multi-Tool pack is here to rescue you from ever looking cool! Yes with this old backpiece that no one used, you too can impress your hipster friends with how “ironic” your unpopular backpiece is!

Create a level 1 engineer today to get your Universal Mulit-Tool pack!

I like how the Universal Multi-Tool pack looks. looks like a real adventurer pack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=127&v=mNSqSqAfWkY

@2:02 no more backpacks…

I am over the moon that this is getting fixed. When I decided to give my human engy a makeover I made her all pink and girly-like (I had to have one character that was girly-girlish. The rest are quite tame compared to that one), but the build I use has her mainly wielding nades. When she whips out that hobosack, her head – yes that’s right people – her head clips through the board at the top of the backpack, so I see this tiny bit of pink popping out.

Glad I’ll be able to see the pink quaggan soon instead!

My friends, the time is here!

THE HOBOSACK HAS BEEN BURNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEHOLD (Future) PATCH NOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE HAVE WON!

Knighthonor.4061:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=127&v=mNSqSqAfWkY

@2:02 no more backpacks…

I hate hobo sacks as much as the next man…. But @13:58 the dude equips a challenge specific flamer… With no sack… The guy at 2:02 was more than likely, not an engi but morerather someone with this still equipped.

So… are hobosacks gone with the specialization content update, or do we have to wait for HoT?

The Hobo Sack looks even worst on the females. Imagine buying the hottest outfit you can afford and get stuck with that ugly back sack!

I saw Anet toss around the idea of a fanny pack, with would be an improvement, but still a fanny pack? Please not the flag! Not the flag!

Maybe a shadow color? Or perhaps title? But really when a thief is trying to slice and dice you the last thing they are looking at is your back pack

Please lose the Hobo Sack!

Angelica Dream.7103:

The Hobo Sack looks even worst on the females. Imagine buying the hottest outfit you can afford and get stuck with that ugly back sack!

I saw Anet toss around the idea of a fanny pack, with would be an improvement, but still a fanny pack? Please not the flag! Not the flag!

Maybe a shadow color? Or perhaps title? But really when a thief is trying to slice and dice you the last thing they are looking at is your back pack

Please lose the Hobo Sack!

relax lol.. it will be all over soon…in fact most likely already with the next patch

rodadams.5963:

So… are hobosacks gone with the specialization content update, or do we have to wait for HoT?

Most likely next patch will be the end of the hobosacks.

I am so happy to hear the good news!

I just want to request again A-net: please, PLEASE make our weapons visible, in the stowed position, when we are using kits. I would really like to be able to see my Predator rifle while I am using a kit.

sunset.3056:

I am so happy to hear the good news!

Honestly your character looks anything but happy.

Mine is skeptical and wants to at least wait till patch.

What will come of it? He doesn’t know.

Congrats engies :,) this has been so long in coming. So glad to see it work out for you. I will now make and play my engineer

So… Do we have pictures of the new kits, now that it’s coming soon?

EroticAndHeretic.7398:

So… Do we have pictures of the new kits, now that it’s coming soon?

We only saw some placeholder assets when the change was first announced.

According to the last stream, it appears the wrist-mounted syringe gun for Med kit is final, though. And it looks pretty nice.

RabbitUp.8294:

EroticAndHeretic.7398:

So… Do we have pictures of the new kits, now that it’s coming soon?

We only saw some placeholder assets when the change was first announced.

According to the last stream, it appears the wrist-mounted syringe gun for Med kit is final, though. And it looks pretty nice.

Ok, thanks! I remember the grenade and bomb kits placeholders (hope that these changed a bit).

The syringe looks pretty cool. Perfect with the scientific weapons, and I hope perfect with a new elixir gun style! It’s fun to see it on the wrist.

I’m really eager to see the new LF and EG skins, as it’s what I play. Especially without their backpacks.

But what I really want to see is the mortar. I just want to see it held like Horrik’s cannon.

I can’t help feeling cynical the change was made to increase gem shop sales.

Daniel Handler.4816:

I can’t help feeling cynical the change was made to increase gem shop sales.

No! You will not kill this hype train! waves rolled up newspaper around

Actually I’m more curious if they’ll be modifying the flamethrower and elixir gun models. The flamethrower was always half-decent, but the elixir gun was just some piece of wood with tape on it. Would be nice to see something fancier in that regard, but losing that juice sack is good enough.

I wonder if they’ll ever sell a “collection of antique hobosacks” as a decoration for guild halls.
I mean, they are of historical importance, after all.

Manuhell.2759:

I wonder if they’ll ever sell a “collection of antique hobosacks” as a decoration for guild halls.
I mean, they are of historical importance, after all.

Well they have indicated they might be available as back item skins at some point, although a guild hall decoration for that would be kind of funny. They’d probably not call them “hobosacks” though.

PistolWhip.2697:

sunset.3056:

I am so happy to hear the good news!

Honestly your character looks anything but happy.

Mine is skeptical and wants to at least wait till patch.

What will come of it? He doesn’t know.

It’s just her face she does when she poses for the camera, I am hopeful my legendary auras will stay when I pop nade kit. :/

sunset.3056:

PistolWhip.2697:

sunset.3056:

I am so happy to hear the good news!

Honestly your character looks anything but happy.

Mine is skeptical and wants to at least wait till patch.

What will come of it? He doesn’t know.

It’s just her face she does when she poses for the camera, I am hopeful my legendary auras will stay when I pop nade kit. :/

LOL Hilarious

BRING BACK HOBOSACKS!!!

BRING BACK HOBOSACKS!!!

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What? Somebody had to say it.

I’m not sure if it has been say, but there’s the same problem with the shield which covers your back piece when it’s off. Any fixes for that too ?