Guild Wars 2

I too agreed with this statement, in spirit.

I agree with you. Not only that, the DH is by far the most boring class specialization I’ve played. Not sure how Arenanet didn’t catch this.

I truly wish Ele was made just like Thief and Guardian. There’s so many ways to outplay Thief and Guardian because of the way those class mechanics are.

There’s a million ways to outplay Bow and Traps that, you can buff these items and it’s still going to be hard to use effectively in a match unless your “stars are aligned”, an expression that’s coming up more and more.

We’re a class that’s dependent on so many aspects. That’s not a bad thing, mind you. It’s just that, other classes are not on the same page like the Guardian. The Guardian has to be thee most balanced class in the game. For this game, that’s not always the best thing.

Overall, I just hope PvE and PvP remains separate.
For example, I hope LB#1 does more damage when it attacks a single foe, or that multiple foes deal less damage when effected with a CC effect (winkwink, probable future PvE scenario for boss minions?)

Guardian is the new ranger. Out after hot.

I will probably shift to rev. Dragon hunter is not appealing. It’s even worse when compared to other class elite specs.

I can’t be constructive about this because, I don’t see a way to make Dragon Hunter work without total rework, which is very hard and time consuming for ANet.

Either they want people to move away from Guardian and want people to play other classes or it was an accident creating this elite spec.

It’s much easier to change class. Shift ascended armor to warrior or rev. And enjoy the game.

ummm .. you guys realize that alot of the things you’re complaining about are actually changing ?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Dragonhunter-Changes-for-Next-BWE/5419316

They said they can’t get them ready for THIS beta weekend but they ARE changing them for the next one.

Thought i’d share this cause i feel you guys missed out on the announcement.

Leap Of Faith.8263:

I can’t be constructive about this because, I don’t see a way to make Dragon Hunter work without total rework, which is very hard and time consuming for ANet.

This.
I would recommend not to change anything on DH as I do not see how it could not be absolutely pointless. They should spend time more on stuff which need reasonable effort to become decent (in other words: other class)

traps (on long cd)+melee range longbow (with scepter broken orbs-arrows “obstructed” 50%) + non instant virtues = paradise for other classes

every other spec got shouts(which are good overall) or even new set of utilities but guardians got traps

+ not even 25% movement passive trait with longbow that we needed.

“we are in a good place” hype.

Not buying expansion sorry, I don’t like DH at all.

Kicast.1459:

Leap Of Faith.8263:

I can’t be constructive about this because, I don’t see a way to make Dragon Hunter work without total rework, which is very hard and time consuming for ANet.

This.
I would recommend not to change anything on DH as I do not see how it could not be absolutely pointless. They should spend time more on stuff which need reasonable effort to become decent (in other words: other class)

I agree, no need to polish a broken glass.

Dragon Hunter Warder. New elite line for the shield (I dont care bout getting accsess to a new weapon). That whould make me happy.

that would be dumb they wont make 3 specs which focus on shield the best we can do is implore them add more to the dragonhunter

Hunter.4783:

Im sorry if im using strong language right now but im clearly upset. but i think im right nevertheless. my favorite class is being turned into a joke in front of my eyes while most other classes receive exciting mechanics and the like.

And what is exactly the problem? Most of specialization AREN’T as powerful as the vanilla builds, specially in PvP/roaming. Outside Chronomancer and maybe the Daredevil most of the other specs displayed are weaker than the current meta builds.

You did buy the expansion due you want a better Guardian? Sorry to hear that. Some people will buy it due the new PvE zones, other ones due the Guild Halls, etc. Some people would wish for a revamp of the Spiritual Weapons and they got nothing. I would like to have a propper shield with viable shield skills, but got nothing. And I’m not mad at it.

Elpredator.8523:

that would be dumb they wont make 3 specs which focus on shield the best we can do is implore them add more to the dragonhunter

Of course they wont. And they are, post about it 9 days ago.

Yeah, the Dragonhunter is a pretty massive letdown. Like others here have said, nothing short of a total demolition and ground-up rework is going to make it appealing to me. It’s become the nail in the coffin for my Guardian, so if I buy HoT (which I’m really still undecided on), I’ll be hopping on the Revenant bandwagon.

Black Box.9312:

Yeah, the Dragonhunter is a pretty massive letdown. Like others here have said, nothing short of a total demolition and ground-up rework is going to make it appealing to me. It’s become the nail in the coffin for my Guardian, so if I buy HoT (which I’m really still undecided on), I’ll be hopping on the Revenant bandwagon.

I have been playing my Rev lately and let me tell you, Herald is what guardian SHOULD have been like.

its not even funny anymore. The Herald is pretty much a better guardian in every step of the way. Pulsing AoE might swiftness, regen and FURY or prot given to a single spec like candy.

And check out F2…pretty much can have a free 9 sec of ALL the aforementioned boons when you are low on unkeep…

And no i am NOT asking for nerfs. unless they overhaul the dragonhunter, i too am jumping ship, because i am tired of all this bullkitten 2 years down the road (shield says hi even after 2 years)

Yeah Dragon Hunter seriously lacks utility. I like the flavor of the class a lot but everything DH can do any other class can do better.

There is no place for dragonhunter in this game.
WvWvW – honor, vertues, valor – the best traits for wvwvw, i need shelter, i need focus, i need stability, protection for my party, and i need wall of reflection or purging flames. The traps is totaly useless. Longbow useless too. Ele’s, memser’s, necromat’s do more range dmg, that this “omg dragonhunter!11”. Yes we have symbol of energy, but i can make a cup of tea, until the arrow will fly.

/age

http://i.imgur.com/nUwryzK.png

Dragonhunter – just a joke, time to play reaper or berserker, the people who created them – well done, rly nice specialisation.

I completely agree. If they’re going to make a bland copy of another profession as the Guardian specialization, couldn’t they have done a DD Ele instead of a trapper ranger? It’s just not fun.

“selfish nature”. If a group want a selfish bow member, it’s called a ranger. Even a ranger wouldn’t be that selfish with their spirits/spoters while offering high spike range damage. Who want a high defense class hiding behind (the irony) with mediocre damage and offer nothing more than a ranger to worth being in a group. “Well, it’s for solo”, you might say. Well, ever heard of GS and scepter/focus?. And i doubt DH even good for soloing more than a GS guardian. Longbow offer nothing more than a scepter already had. Deflecting shot is a joke, most of us are not Robinhood. By the time you manage to pull a Deflecting shot, you probly soak more than half of the Rapid fire channel already. The CC might be for WvW, since pve mob barely move anyways. Even in WvW, Zergs are soaked in stability. So…i think one probly better off with non-“elite” specialization build.

I have read dragonhunter descriptions… absolutely useless. Both in pve vs staff and in spvp vs s/t.

I love my dragonhunter. The traits really don’t interfere with sword focus build much, and longbow is much better then my scepter. Sick of my torch 4 skill missing so much to from terrain issues. Give auto attack faster projectile and maybe 5% damage buff and I’m happy. Rest of skills I had no issues with

I really want to love the DH, but in pvp is just godawful for a tons of reasons, i dont think DH is a joke but in no way they’re in a good place either. Traps need to give the DH some sort of survability, the heal trap takes too long to be really effective.. most of the DH skills take too long to activate too (specifically skill #5). I wish i could run with a full LB/Trap build with DH on PvP, but doing that is just suicide.

I like the DH build without the Bow.

I’m basically on the usual Carrion burn build, GS Scepter/Focus. Not taking torch because of my weakness to condi.

I’m using Procession of Blades instead of CoP. It offers higher group damages with a heavy condi weakness (no cop). Depending on the comp i’m facing, I can switch back to CoP.

The Virtues seem better utilized… but the F3 needs to most definitly block the Guardian as well. I can’t choose Bow because I lack in other areas, either damages (why I use GS) or defenses (why I use Focus). Even a pure Zerker or Rampage build, the defense weaknesses on Bow just isn’t worth it… a thief can and will 1 shot you.

tl;dr
The bow feels subpar but I like the other weapon variants with DH. I feel F3 most definitely needs to block the Guardian. A Rampage/Berserker build with Bow does nice in 1v1’s but the weaknesses against Guardians/Thieves who can teleport inside and gank you is very apparent. Maybe add minor “virtues are instant when using the bow” trait or something…

ANet please eliminates the traps of the guardian. All the players we are asking you for it, they are useless in all the aspects. Even we are in time of improving this specialization.

People sure are salty in here. If this thread were locked, I wouldn’t shed a tear.

people are upset for 2 main reasons.

The elite spec is crap
Most of the updated skills DIDN’T make it into this test
Mechanics we have been asking for years miraculously make it into other elite specs, such as the revi shield

So really, i would say we have a VERY good reason to be upset

Hunter.4783:

people are upset for 2 main reasons.

The elite spec is crap
Most of the updated skills DIDN’T make it into this test
Mechanics we have been asking for years miraculously make it into other elite specs, such as the revi shield

So really, i would say we have a VERY good reason to be upset

Revenant support makes me cringe everytime I look at it, it’s just way better than Guardian and there’s a good chance we might get replaced by Rev for Fractals and some Dungeons when HoT comes out, DH is just bad, traps are useless in all game modes, Longbow skills aren’t good enough to pressure somebody in PvP like Ranger and does not have good DPS compared to Scepter, and Virtues are downgraded when you switch to it…

Also, Shield and Torch skills better on Berserker and Herald…

Amineo.8951:

Hunter.4783:

people are upset for 2 main reasons.

The elite spec is crap
Most of the updated skills DIDN’T make it into this test
Mechanics we have been asking for years miraculously make it into other elite specs, such as the revi shield

So really, i would say we have a VERY good reason to be upset

Revenant support makes me cringe everytime I look at it, it’s just way better than Guardian and there’s a good chance we might get replaced by Rev for Fractals and some Dungeons when HoT comes out, DH is just bad, traps are useless in all game modes, Longbow skills aren’t good enough to pressure somebody in PvP like Ranger and does not have good DPS compared to Scepter, and Virtues are downgraded when you switch to it…

Also, Shield and Torch skills better on Berserker and Herald…

Berserker is currently worse than DH. watch your tongue

Azure.8670:

Amineo.8951:

Hunter.4783:

people are upset for 2 main reasons.

The elite spec is crap
Most of the updated skills DIDN’T make it into this test
Mechanics we have been asking for years miraculously make it into other elite specs, such as the revi shield

So really, i would say we have a VERY good reason to be upset

Revenant support makes me cringe everytime I look at it, it’s just way better than Guardian and there’s a good chance we might get replaced by Rev for Fractals and some Dungeons when HoT comes out, DH is just bad, traps are useless in all game modes, Longbow skills aren’t good enough to pressure somebody in PvP like Ranger and does not have good DPS compared to Scepter, and Virtues are downgraded when you switch to it…

Also, Shield and Torch skills better on Berserker and Herald…

Berserker is currently worse than DH. watch your tongue

I don’t think so, it’s a bit better than DH, at least you can use it and have some results, DH is just bad in any aspect and not fun to play.

The main problem with dragonhunter.

Traps.

Whoever thought that Guard’s should have traps or be a ‘big game hunter’ should really take a look at themselves.

The likely lore link is Braham and Eir -.- Of all the things a guardian would take from a ranger, who the hell would take traps? Not even rangers take traps!

Would have worked if there were maybe a new type of shouty moves similar to bard/paragon stuff. Channeled Shouts maybe. Whoever made the Dragonhunter fumbled it imho.

Effectively they have made the invisible specialisation as not many will take it after the initial shiny has worn off unless there are big changes.

I’m completely disgusted with how DH works, it’s by far the most clunky specialization out of all, granted it’s only BETA and things like not being able to cast your skills on targets who are not exactly in front of you without having to manually shift your camera which makes any fight with a Thief or Warrior a complete a mindkitten, are actually acceptable because well, it is only BETA.

Now, what feels hopeless and unacceptable, is the tremendous lack of synergy and flair this specialization brings to the table. I’m a Guard main and this was definitely a huge punch to the gut, specially because I tried other specializations (beside Berserker and Tempest) and oh boy, how IMPACTFUL they were on gameplay, you felt really the elite aspect of playing with the specialization and don’t get me started on Herald, I’m so bittersweet that Rev is getting such an amazingly versatile supporting mechanic that would as much be fair on the likes of the Guard, and this is one of the many reasons I’m switching to Rev like many others once HoT is out.

DH will ever be a thing unless they completely scratch it off out of the face of Tyria and bring out the elite specialization the Guard deserves.

DH is so underwhelming and disappointing.I play a Guardian as main and playing as a DH is the opposite of what embodies the Guardian I have been playing for the past three years…it just feel like a lousy Ranger wannabe

I do agree on some but not on all parts. IMO Dragonhunter should be an offensive alteration of the Guardian. Elites are supposed to transform the class into something new. under this aspect the DH works better then most of the other elites so far.

I do not get the “clunkiness” argument at all. DH feels very “flowing” to me.

The key trait will be the revised version that causes Spear of Justice passiv to inflict cripple on burn. This trait is so OP that it will most likely be the go to master trait for offensiv DH builds. It helps landing our crucial skills like GS #2, Hammer #4 & #5, Torch #4 & #5 and LB #2 & #5. IF it works with permeating wrath it will be a absolute helpful addition to WvWvW.

LB needs tweaks but it is on a decent path. I agree however that the concept of the weapon is kind of boring. Not because they do not work but because every skill is literally a ranged copy of GS in what it does – which ironically every Guardian loves.

Hunters Fortification will be awsome. there is nothing to add. If you cant see how this trait benefits Guradian builds your lost.

Traps are traps with pros and cons. We have several means to push or pull people in there. heck we have stealth now even if it is just for the purpose of stealthing and blow up a medi burst in our enemies face that is now even harder to react too. IF you think most raps are worthless you clearly have not used them to their full potential. I am not saying they shouldn’t be better but they are not garbage. What baffles me is the lack of a single condi cleanse and or stun break on them.

I think it is save to say that any utility that is a serious contender or the extremely strong ones we already have had to be very very good. – we are in a good place as you all know ;-)

All the whining leads to my conclusion that most people complaining want something that makes them stronger and not “different” which is a hugh misconeception of waht elites should be. IF you do not like the DH then don not spec for it and enjoy the Guardian class as it is.

Hunter.4783:

people are upset for 2 main reasons.

The elite spec is crap
Most of the updated skills DIDN’T make it into this test
Mechanics we have been asking for years miraculously make it into other elite specs, such as the revi shield

So really, i would say we have a VERY good reason to be upset

no

/15 characters

Asmodal.6489:

Elites are supposed to transform the class into something new. under this aspect the DH works better then most of the other elites so far.

All of the Elite Specializations have transformed their professions into something new by virtue of adding something new. The problem with the Dragonhunter is that it lacks the synergy that the other elites have because it has very little ties to the core profession of which it represents.

Maybe early in development all the Elite Specializations were going to take the professions into dual-class territory. But it clearly hasn’t worked out like that. Instead pretty much all the elite specializations have just expanded upon their core professions. The Chronomancer, Reaper, Daredevil, Berserker, Tempest, etc… have set the standard of what Elite Specializations should be, it’s now the Dragonhunter which is the outlier to the trend.

You can no longer hold the Dragonhunter up as the standard of what elite specializations should be. That argument may have worked when the Dragonhunter was first revealed, but we now have seven elites that point in an entirely different direction.

Well their goal was to make specializations completely change how a class plays, for better variety…and well this seems to be exactly that.

I’m hoping most of the complaints I’m reading are more knee jerk reactions to a class that now plays totally different…and that it will just take time to figure out the meta for them.

I mean I don’t see anyone going “you know what I love the DH I’m going guardian” it seems more aimed at “you know what I’m going to mess around on my guardian DH for a bit” type of specialization.

I just hope it has a good role in all the games content. I really don’t want the class to be ignored or shunned in content.

I do like the idea of a control based, trapper, longbow class….just you know….its a Guardian…the heavy armored magical knight sort of class…of all the options to change how the class played I feel there would have been much better routes.

Hell something like a seraphim bowman, you know maybe a blend of paladin looks and support with a bow and mobility (like angel wings that allow me to be more mobile or leap long distances) with a lot of bow based holy support skills. That seems like it would have been a better evolution of what the guardian is, but with a totally new gameplay via the specialization.

I don’t see the connection that the guardian, the support heavy armor class, has with someone who hunts dragons with traps.

I’m sure there is stuff everyone is missing, the obvious meta’s get spotted first, which reside in other class specializations, so I’m hoping theres something good here buried in the DH….but part of me think….why didn’t they do something cool related to the guardian…it appears to be just like they had a wheel of classes and said “for guardian spin the wheel….annnnd…ooh the guardian will get a hunter/trapper spec…done”

I dont mind the bow as much i dont like it either but it is a game design problem that will make DH only good if bow will have a supbar AA damage.

Also traps are not the best choices of design(due how other classes mobility will make them almost useless) could had the momment to bring old stuff implemented as new like the wards wich would fit better in class….

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ward_spell

Longbow is really fun. It’s like they took what people wanted in the ranger forum back when ranger longbow was in great need of buffing (esp. true shot looks like one of the top requests) and put it on a pet-less class. And power-based traps are great! And an interesting change from the ranger condi traps. Just need to iron out the balance and get a bit more defense onto them.

I’m getting to learn how those longbow skills work now with second BWE – there’s positioning involved in puncture shot to get the bounce, and true shot requires you to look at your surroundings to make sure you can root yourself – I like these little bits of depth that base guardian is a bit low on – I guess I like positioning-based combat over skill rotation-based ones, and dragonhunter delivers when it comes to positioning requirements.

Azure.8670:

Amineo.8951:

Revenant support makes me cringe everytime I look at it, it’s just way better than Guardian and there’s a good chance we might get replaced by Rev for Fractals and some Dungeons when HoT comes out, DH is just bad, traps are useless in all game modes, Longbow skills aren’t good enough to pressure somebody in PvP like Ranger and does not have good DPS compared to Scepter, and Virtues are downgraded when you switch to it…

Also, Shield and Torch skills better on Berserker and Herald…

Berserker is currently worse than DH. watch your tongue

I’m so disappointed by berserker – it’s like just more warrior, but with magical attacks (why?!) and poor UI.

Mordeus.1234:

Asmodal.6489:

Elites are supposed to transform the class into something new. under this aspect the DH works better then most of the other elites so far.

The problem with the Dragonhunter is that it lacks the synergy that the other elites have because it has very little ties to the core profession of which it represents.

That is simply not true. Again. What the core class represents is not the point. If you are willing to follow that thought fo a moment we can discuss how DH traits and weapons interact with exisiting traitlines. there is a lot of synergy IF you cosndier the changes for the next BWE. I am totally with you that the original reveal had a lot less synergy.

but lets give you argument room too. What the guardian class represents is (imo) great bunker and support capabilites as well as high risk high reward dps gameplay and although this feel like a HoT addition sometimes – heavy burn condition builds.

So in what way would it be more fun to have a traitline that emphasizes this gameplay in addition to having to compete with already working builds/tools. DH would be a traitline that does not define the class but merely add to a specific playstyle.

berserker is the best example. it basically just boosted the class mechanic and added a different and more ways of applying burn competing with an offhand that already had condition application. The utilites have cool animations and are somewhat unique. but as soon as the new wears of people will still run the usual suspects. There is also nothing that anet can do to make the berserker more powerful because they missed it completely to integrated a downside of going berserker – which normally goes along with lowered defense and what not. If they up the damage berserker will make all other traitlines obsolete.

I dont think thieves really got soemthing new as well as elementalists – they are in the same boat as DH. The core specs are extremely powerful.

Reaper is in line with DH in terms of gameplay… you are still a servant of death however.

Azure.8670:

Amineo.8951:

Hunter.4783:

people are upset for 2 main reasons.

The elite spec is crap
Most of the updated skills DIDN’T make it into this test
Mechanics we have been asking for years miraculously make it into other elite specs, such as the revi shield

So really, i would say we have a VERY good reason to be upset

Revenant support makes me cringe everytime I look at it, it’s just way better than Guardian and there’s a good chance we might get replaced by Rev for Fractals and some Dungeons when HoT comes out, DH is just bad, traps are useless in all game modes, Longbow skills aren’t good enough to pressure somebody in PvP like Ranger and does not have good DPS compared to Scepter, and Virtues are downgraded when you switch to it…

Also, Shield and Torch skills better on Berserker and Herald…

Berserker is currently worse than DH. watch your tongue

You can’t be serious.

my excitement for this specialization dropped to absolute zero when i got a look at what its actually going to do. the idea of a heavily armored knight fighting dragons with a longbow sounded so awesome, too.

seriously though, traps. why.

The problem with the “giving the class something new” argument is that it just doesn’t work for the Dragonhunter. We didn’t get something new. We got a Ranger wannabe with some light magic flair.

People already didn’t play Trap Ranger. Whatever the hell they were thinking about expanding the same playstyle to Guardian is well beyond me.

Yep i agree so far, a lot of the things are so far a big disappointment.

We have wanted working spirit weapons from the start and nothing has happen on that front.

We wanted a viable shield with some usage. And the only thing they keep doing is lowering the cool downs, sure it has helped but it is still worse for almost everything else than our other choices as a offhand.

The fact that Focus traited now gives more protection to oneself than the shield. And yet the shield bonus is a worthless +180 toughness competing with group +150 toughness.

The Signet in exchange for the healing book was also a big let down. We did say we wanted something. But that has to be one of the worst design i have ever seen. We lost

+9900 Hp, cycling Protection and Permanent stability while using.
Both offering a instant heal group spell with the same cast time and they both have the same cool down The only thing the signet have is a worthkitten ,8 Hp/s if not used and we can trait for it making it 20% shorter on cool down and the passive healing slightly stronger, i can not even understand who tough that was a good idea.

However

Longbow does seem like a interesting addition but the execution has been terrible so far, hopefully the skills will be “tuned” for the next beta weekend or at least for the release. And the we have traps.

Can anyone recall when we asked for traps, traps have to be one of the worst design so far and to have traits for it on a line that is competing with a long range weapon. As traps are now they are not even dangerous.

The Shield of courage offering more Allie support than the original one is also something that has me mind blown, the specialization if i recall correctly was supposed to be more selfish and yet it has more group support in one of the virtues than the original one.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Virtue_of_Courage
vs
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shield_of_Courage

Equals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc

And to end this long rant with the question, whatever happen to the happy announcement that Condition Guardian was going to happen, i recall seeing bleed on traps. But are they scrapping the idea of Guardian condition completely.

#loldrghunter

/15char

The biggest problem, the root of all evil, is Traps.

Once they rework redesign Traps everything will fall into a good place.

Arnath.2319:

The biggest problem, the root of all evil, is Traps.

Once they rework redesign Traps everything will fall into a good place.

Not redesign Traps, but completely remove these for other stuff, this is worse than the Tomes…

Buran.3796:

Hunter.4783:

Im sorry if im using strong language right now but im clearly upset. but i think im right nevertheless. my favorite class is being turned into a joke in front of my eyes while most other classes receive exciting mechanics and the like.

And what is exactly the problem? Most of specialization AREN’T as powerful as the vanilla builds, specially in PvP/roaming. Outside Chronomancer and maybe the Daredevil most of the other specs displayed are weaker than the current meta builds.

You did buy the expansion due you want a better Guardian? Sorry to hear that. Some people will buy it due the new PvE zones, other ones due the Guild Halls, etc. Some people would wish for a revamp of the Spiritual Weapons and they got nothing. I would like to have a propper shield with viable shield skills, but got nothing. And I’m not mad at it.

You forgot Reaper. Reaper is awesome currently, with a few hitches here and there (some of course because the base is Necromancer) but still way better in PvE and it can do a lot of work in sPvP (as long as you don’t take GS and shouts cough).

As for DH… I think (note : I can only talk from a basic design perspective as I pretty much soley play Necro) if they fix the bugs on Longbow, make traps possibly ranged casts, don’t make LB 2 root you, decrease LB 5’s “arming duration” and make the changed virtues instant cast, DH would most likely be fine; at least looking at the skills. Not neccesarily playing LB+Traps, but using traps for some builds and using LB on others. Can’t say anything about trait-synergy.

Amineo.8951:

Arnath.2319:

The biggest problem, the root of all evil, is Traps.

Once they rework redesign Traps everything will fall into a good place.

Not redesign Traps, but completely remove these for other stuff, this is worse than the Tomes…

I liked the Tomes, even tho there was little reason to ever use them.

I am very excited for our next Elite Specialization tho, Tomes as Kits

well, i agree with most of what was said here but…anet will pretend to be deaf/blind to it. they sure know that majority of guardian players hate it. yet all they respond in is: longbow need better sound effects. its sad, but true.
i mean, whoever created this… abomination called dragon hunter… im sorry for him/her.
its terrbile and number tweaks wont fix it.
they wont admit their mistake and at least apoligize to guard players that they failed to deliver us something interesting…after over 2000hours past 900days on guardian..i feel extremely dissapointed. and am looking forward to amazing reaper or herald. who knows what forge may bring?