Guild Wars 2

Sigh. How is this a high priority when it takes 4 months to fix 1 thing…?

with 14th may patch, nope no fix what so ever. Seriously im glad im rolling a warrior, at least gets the most attention

Thanks for still not fixing it.

jportell.2197:

Seriously ANET this was supposed to be a BUG FIX PATCH and you did nothing NOT ONE SINGLE THING TO THE MESMER and we have soooo many kittening bugs that have been unaddressed for so freaking long. This is bogus. Thank you ANET so much for all that work mesmers put in to get awesome greatswords… Good kittening job team.

assisted indignation

NO WORDS TO ADD TO HIS!!! I HAVE LESS OF A PROBLEM WITH ZERKER THEN OTHER BUGS BUT OMFGLD (Lord Daishi) NOTHING FOR MESMERS ONE OF THE BIGGEST WRENCHED HIDE OF BUGGS, AND NEGLECTORY…NESS?

I partly kid I’m irked by this but not that mad.

screw it i guess im sticking to my scepter/torch and sword/sword ninja build for pvp… Its cool I guess ANET has acknowledged what others have said “GS is a NOOB weapon that is not viable in tourneys” Well they just schemed to make it so. good job anet… top notch stuff.

lol my level 80 full exotic zerker does same damage with my level 14 green gear warrior hundred blade, lmfao

Sephelutis.3480:

lol my level 80 full exotic zerker does same damage with my level 14 green gear warrior hundred blade, lmfao

That right there is a huge issue. Not cool

Lol. Next month guise, swear. :X

June update:

Mesmer:
-Updated Illusionary Berserker tooltip
-Illusionary Berserker renamed to Butterfly Tickle

This is so disappointing. Anet, what is going on? Please fix this. It has been broken for far too long.

The lack of damage sucks but personally I use zerker more for the cripple, I still run tPvP with it…

Kinda want to try JP’s sword/sword – Sceptre/Torch < that even comparable to staff? Or do I have to be condi? Or condi hybrid?

wads.5730:

fufu.8345:

All my mind wracks hit or do hit for close or to the same damage whether it be 1 clone or all the way to clone 3-4. From what I’ve seen a one clone mind wracks damage fluctuates from 1-200 more or less damage from its first initial damage, and from what it seems there doesn’t seem to be damage multipliers for having more clones up.

its pretty easy to test isnt it? especially with IP. infact you should be seeing higher damage per clone the fewer clones you shatter.

I do see higher numbers with IP with fewer clones and that is what made me come to the forums with this topic. Is it IP that is throwing the damage off and bugging mind wrack? It seems like you know exactly what I’m talking about and I hope you can help explain this to me.

the damage per clone shattered decreases with more clones you shatter, but the total damage for all the clones increases. this holds true regardless of IP or not

for instance with IP,
0 clones 1000 damage
1 clone 800 damage each 1600 total damage
2 clones 700 damage each 2100 total damage
3 clones 600 damage each 2400 total damage

without IP, then your max would be 2100 damage, instead of 2400

No fix this patch either?

the answer to the title of this thread: NOPE!

So it seems that I was misreading how the tool tip worded mind wrack. I thought each clone got a higher damage, but it was as a whole the damage was greater for each clone that was used. Thanks for clearing that up for me and taking the time to explain it to me. I just think its so strange that i can get with two clones a 3900+ crits but once i add another clone in there the crits go to 2400+

fufu.8345:

So it seems that I was misreading how the tool tip worded mind wrack. I thought each clone got a higher damage, but it was as a whole the damage was greater for each clone that was used. Thanks for clearing that up for me and taking the time to explain it to me. I just think its so strange that i can get with two clones a 3900+ crits but once i add another clone in there the crits go to 2400+

This is called non-linear scaling. Our other Shatters scale linearly, meaning the effect is the exact same per Illusion, so each Illusion adds 1/3rd if the potential max effect.

Mind Wrack scales non-linearly, most of it’s potential effect (approx 50%) comes from the first Illusion whereas additional clones add less. You deal more damage overall, but less per Illusion until eventually at 3 Illusions you’re at the max damage and each clone is dealing 1/3rd if it.

IP works by mimicking the per-clone effect of your shatters. Since normally this doesn’t vary it doesn’t matter, but with IP the damage per clone varies. So since a single illusion shatter does slightly less than 50% of the max effect this means that a single illusion Shatter w/ IP deals nearly as much damage as a 3 Illusion Shatter does without it.

In the end, you’re only adding 33% to the max effect which is comparable for a Grandmaster trait, but the boost IP adds for the low-end of your Shatters is incredible.

3months since izerker broke.
12days since last red post, "we have never seen that error ".
No solid communication on izerker issues being recognized or fixed.

Raises pitchfork for body count on issue.

Emanuel.9781:

They better freaking do. It’s sad to see it hit only 2000 to 3000 damage MAX with ~116% crit damage and 3300+ attack power pretty much consistently. Usually even less. The 2-3k damage is with all hits being crits, even.

Phantasmal Berserker is currently a joke of a supposed damage skill.

sad..i’m hitting that with 3200 AP and 12% crit damage. you should be doing about 5k.

They harmed the berserker (fortunately he does not feel the pain!) and they hurt the mesmers. When will that stop??

Lightsbane.9012:

Emanuel.9781:

They better freaking do. It’s sad to see it hit only 2000 to 3000 damage MAX with ~116% crit damage and 3300+ attack power pretty much consistently. Usually even less. The 2-3k damage is with all hits being crits, even.

Phantasmal Berserker is currently a joke of a supposed damage skill.

sad..i’m hitting that with 3200 AP and 12% crit damage. you should be doing about 5k.

Sad what? Because you got lucky and your phantasm landed 3 or 4 hits for once or you’re using it on a dummy in LA? Meanwhile, warriors hit 15-20k damage in their MH axe autoattack chain in a total of 6 hits over 5 ish seconds..
Go test out the Berserker’s damage in Orr against different risen mobs and post your results here.

It should be hitting for at least 6-7k in my setup, in it’s non-bugged state.

I didn’t think it could get much worse, but since this new patch (that supposedly didn’t change iB) the average damage I see from my iB is between 1.5 and 3K and are now only using it for its potential crippling.

There’s been issues with iB ever since they tried to fix the line of sight issue which would allow us to cast it onto enemies in castle’s that weren’t on the edge. The good old days. Since then, it’s damage has been hit or miss, it’s range debateable and it’s line of sight, a complete joke. Stone in the road? between run around it first, might not be able to see past it.

So with the confusion nerf and the on going issues with GS builds, where does it leave the Mesmer? Glorified portal taxis.

Come on ANET, get it fixed.

ANet, on the 28th? Please?

Dastion.3106:

fufu.8345:

So it seems that I was misreading how the tool tip worded mind wrack. I thought each clone got a higher damage, but it was as a whole the damage was greater for each clone that was used. Thanks for clearing that up for me and taking the time to explain it to me. I just think its so strange that i can get with two clones a 3900+ crits but once i add another clone in there the crits go to 2400+

This is called non-linear scaling. Our other Shatters scale linearly, meaning the effect is the exact same per Illusion, so each Illusion adds 1/3rd if the potential max effect.

Mind Wrack scales non-linearly, most of it’s potential effect (approx 50%) comes from the first Illusion whereas additional clones add less. You deal more damage overall, but less per Illusion until eventually at 3 Illusions you’re at the max damage and each clone is dealing 1/3rd if it.

IP works by mimicking the per-clone effect of your shatters. Since normally this doesn’t vary it doesn’t matter, but with IP the damage per clone varies. So since a single illusion shatter does slightly less than 50% of the max effect this means that a single illusion Shatter w/ IP deals nearly as much damage as a 3 Illusion Shatter does without it.

In the end, you’re only adding 33% to the max effect which is comparable for a Grandmaster trait, but the boost IP adds for the low-end of your Shatters is incredible.

Huh, so many hours on my mesmer and I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.

Hell, I’m still waiting for our ‘bad pic’

bump
/fifteen chars

We’ll just keep bumping this ANet. Maybe it’s time to get negative feedback on other forums?

My zerker did 7k just now. Rushed here to see if it was fixed. Tried again and went back to 3k. Sadness.

I have a sunrise on my Mesmer

Do people really have to create multiple topics all around the forum (about same issue) just to get a decent response from devs? Really ANet?

I bumped 4 different topics about this on the bug page. Got banned for 24 hours. A dev replied on this one though the same day! maybe it works?

I wouldn’t recommend constantly bumping threads… if I was a dev I would just start to ignore that topic as to not reward the constant bumping. I would like to see some sort of update on what’s going on with this though…

Aberrant.6749:

I wouldn’t recommend constantly bumping threads… if I was a dev I would just start to ignore that topic as to not reward the constant bumping. I would like to see some sort of update on what’s going on with this though…

Reward? Its THEIR GAME and our best phantasm is dead, a skill is broken and they’re ignoring the issue. If it was broken for a month then it would be excusable, for two it would be funny cuz they can’t fix something that simple (reverse the freaking izerker to its previous state if it takes you A YEAR to find the bug………………..) but almost 5 months is laughable and worth telling your friends that don’t even play gw2. They refuse to do something with our useless Torch, Scepter, izerker and Mind Stab that everyone ignores cuz its THAT bad.

While this thread has a red post in it, while it remains a place of testing after each patch to check if any progress has been made, and while it serves the purpose of informing less knowledgeable players about the bug, this thread will be allowed to live and will provide good visibility for all devs.

If it turns into a bump and whine fest, the heavy handed mods will lock and/or move it.

I suggest we keep it as the former

fadeaway.2807:

While this thread has a red post in it, while it remains a place of testing after each patch to check if any progress has been made, and while it serves the purpose of informing less knowledgeable players about the bug, this thread will be allowed to live and will provide good visibility for all devs.

If it turns into a bump and whine fest, the heavy handed mods will lock and/or move it.

I suggest we keep it as the former

Psskitten, we’re not supposed to talk about mods and locking

But seriously, they never learn about communication. They promise and promise and never live up to it. I don’t expect any further dev answers in here. We’re no faceroll class, so we’re not important enough.

Hey fingers crossed that someone will come with an answer tomorrow.

the dev said that the damage of iberzerker whirl is spread across its path.. and its damaging just fine in their dmg meters. so i doubt it will be fixed..
maybe, the iberzerker damage from before is the one thats not normal.. hitting most hits when it connects to the targets,.

I’m playing phantasm build mesmer (its my main build) and I managed to corner an orrian and casted iBerserker. It hit every swing yet it only dealt ~2800 damage. And that is with criticals and the 15% damage boost traits from both inspiration and domination.

Off hand sword here I come!

Grounder.7381:

the dev said that the damage of iberzerker whirl is spread across its path.. and its damaging just fine in their dmg meters. so i doubt it will be fixed..
maybe, the iberzerker damage from before is the one thats not normal.. hitting most hits when it connects to the targets,.

mirror Blade and full Spatial Surge does more damage then izerker, this is normal to you? You think when izerker was hitting for 4.5-8k it was bugged and the 2k damage you get now is fine? lol funny. Not only it doesn’t deal any damage but it doesn’t cripple properly nor apply bleeds from sharper images…

Kind of feeling like a total blow off here Anet.

I think the dodge roll bug (which is claimed fixed but actually, not) is gonna be a potential candidate for being izerker the second. Lets start guessing how many months till its fixed.

Well we can take bets. But isn’t there another patch at the end of this month?

salameri.3768:

Off hand sword here I come!

Are you so sure? Given that your clones won’t have the offhand equipped your enemies will be able to instantly tell you apart from your clones.

TBH, the clones offhand issue and this iberserker issue are both really really annoying.

TBH, the clones offhand issue and this iberserker issue are both really really annoying.

They are, but i would wager that Illusionary Elasticity not affecting staff clones is another annoying bug that makes playing a condition mesmer really hard.

ANet, 28th patch, make it happen please. <3

JonPeters.5630:

The 4 hits do not always happen if the IZerker is far away from the target it might only get 1 strike in because the animation generates 4 attacks. Saying it only hit a static target 3 times doesn’t really tell the whole story. Hundred blades or whirrlwind on great sword are similar. Each attack has a size and facing and timing and those things determine if a hit occurs.

So basically what you’re saying is:

“Go play a Warrior and learn how the skill ‘Whirlwind Attack’ actually works.”

Sound advice. Expand your knowledge of the game people.

FYI: If you use Whirlwind Attack right next to the target, you won’t get all 4 hits off unless it follows you. I can’t remember the last time I FOLLOWED an iZerker…

Redscope.6215:

FYI: If you use Whirlwind Attack right next to the target, you won’t get all 4 hits off unless it follows you. I can’t remember the last time I FOLLOWED an iZerker…

Tested and proven by many people in various posts, the hitbox of izerker is screwed up and remains unfixed. Awesome feeling when izerker spins past a dummy golem for 500 damage, about half the damage of my auto-attack with 0 crits.

To be honest, after so long, i’m kinda giving up izerker ever getting a proper fix to its damage. Maybe just throw in the towel and remove izerker’s damage and improve on its CC. Change/Add cripple with daze/stun/chill, i don’t know. Just rename and remake it into illusionary CC-bot.

Noince.7364:

To be honest, after so long, i’m kinda giving up izerker ever getting a proper fix to its damage. Maybe just throw in the towel and remove izerker’s damage and improve on its CC. Change/Add cripple with daze/stun/chill, i don’t know. Just rename and remake it into illusionary CC-bot.

No! Fix it!