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Posted by: Ryodan.3157

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In your latest video you said you moved some trait points around, could you please outline the changes and why you went with them. Also why the switch away from using staff as your second weapon set? would you still run staff solo and not in a group?

Also ty for the videos, they are great to watch. Would love to see one you narrate the fights with what your thinking/doing in each. I keep rolling it back to watch your skill bar and see the order you do things lol

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Posted by: Dan.8709

Dan.8709

Dang, the last vídeo was really nice as well.
I guess you just went straight posting your vídeos with “I’ll show you all that scepter and torch can be AWESOME” since everyone Always dismiss those weapons.

I surely will play more around with scepter now… I was amazed at how you managed to crit really high with its #1, your iSwordsman and everything else hit’s like a mad truck too, really impressive.
I really have to stop being lazy and build my armor and trinkets to do this kind of damage haha, keep up the incredible work, it’s much appreciated!

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Dess,

Hey thanks for the kind words. It’s nice to know someone else gets a kick out of this stuff, besides me. :P

Ryodan,

I can’t recall exactly what I was running in the video, probably just put 10 into dom out of chaos to pick up empowered illusion trait. I move stuff around almost every day just for kicks. I moved away from staff and wanted to pick up a unique weapon set. I would recommend staff though for group play. I’ll add some narration and thought process in my next video to break everything down. Thanks for the suggestion!

Daniel,

You got it bro, people come to me and say that this or that is weak, and I just try to see for myself. Scepter is sick man. Sword is sick. Staff.. is sick. Pistol? Sick. Torch? Yup.. sick… I think it’s fun to give everything a shot. Keeps me sharp, and it breaks up the monotony of one play-style. Yeah once you get your armor and trinkets lined out, you’re there man.

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Posted by: Whirlpool.9410

Whirlpool.9410

I’ve been using the Personal Shatter version of your build for a while now, having already been running something like it before I find your thread. It’s been a big help to see how you do things. I don’t quite have your survivability yet, though I definitely have more work to do at getting more skilled. xD

Still, I learned a lot and got some good gearing tips, which is what I really needed. Thanks!

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Posted by: Phloww.1048

Phloww.1048

This is a great guide and I play similar build setup! I thought I was the oddball when I went with knight’s armor but it help give extra survivability and power. I think the other gear I may consider is rabid for more condition damage. I like how you show the usefulness of the torch.

I agree with you that any build on any class can dominate with the right hands and I’m happy that I’ve come across yours! Thank you!

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Whirpool,

I’m glad that I could help! I appreciate the post.

Phloww,

No, you are not an oddball… I’m right there with you brother. Rabid gear would be another strong choice for our play-style, and I’m glad we are in agreement.

Update – [02/05/13] Close quarters, 4vME. I always highlight the survivablility of the mesmer, this time lets look at standing your ground, not running, and just doing work.

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Posted by: Davrollen.8935

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Awesome man. I see you’ve incorporated some of the retaliation buffs of the focus. I switched to focus and I literally had players running away from me because they didn’t know how to handle it after a few tries. I’m a big fan, keep it up!

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Davrollen,

I really do prefer the torch but I needed to show some focus stuff for a change of pace. Misdirection is huge while controlling a mesmer, glad you are getting a kick out of this stuff. I appreciate it.

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Posted by: Lillith.3018

Lillith.3018

Love, love, love that new vid!
My mes turned 80 last week or so and I popped her cherry in WvW last night. Got a cond dmg build that I’ve been researching for weeks and actually had a few running from me.
Of course I got hosed quite a few times…nasty thieves!
Thanks for all these vids and tips! I’ve been enjoying the helloutof it!

My I ask a nubsauce question tho…how do you get that cond removal from focus?

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

@Lillith:
Temporal Curtain is a light field. Any projectile or whirl finisher will remove conditions. This is especially potent if your warden ends up in the field.

@Seven:
Yeah, I love torch too because I’m in love with invis, but I just can’t decide between OH sword or focus when I put the torch down. The swordsman is such a great harasser, but dat curtain! It’s pure awesome, and you have mastered it, man. Great work there, and awesome vid as usual.

I think I may just have to try the scepter so I can run with 2 off hands, but it’s going to be really hard to give up the staff. I can see myself on my kitten a lot.

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

I think I may just have to try the scepter so I can run with 2 off hands, but it’s going to be really hard to give up the staff. I can see myself on my kitten a lot.

I’ve been toying around with this idea too, I’m so used to the staff it’s practically lazy mode.

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

I think I may just have to try the scepter so I can run with 2 off hands, but it’s going to be really hard to give up the staff. I can see myself on my kitten a lot.

I’ve been toying around with this idea too, I’m so used to the staff it’s practically lazy mode.

Don’t be lazy Jalliel!

/hides
PS: Need moar AC runs.

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

I think I may just have to try the scepter so I can run with 2 off hands, but it’s going to be really hard to give up the staff. I can see myself on my kitten a lot.

I’ve been toying around with this idea too, I’m so used to the staff it’s practically lazy mode.

Don’t be lazy Jalliel!

/hides
PS: Need moar AC runs.

I’ll be home in a few hours and we can do AC, I only need one more run thru of the three paths and I’ll have the whole armor set! And then to try out this new build idea I have uh crikey! ;o

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

Don’t be lazy Jalliel!

Better not let Kai see you writing that!

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Posted by: Lillith.3018

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@Lillith:
Temporal Curtain is a light field. Any projectile or whirl finisher will remove conditions. This is especially potent if your warden ends up in the field.

I thought so…I’ve been messing around in PvE using different combo’s just to see what I can do.
Thanks for the reply

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Gaiawolf,

Giving up the staff is a big decision! I just found myself to be on the offensive more and more, and having a list of four weapon skills to choose from was pretty cool too. :P

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Posted by: oellph.9450

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I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but I’m having trouble actually doing enough damage to take people down in a timely manner. My survival skills seem ok – I can use dodges, stealth and combo fields to put up retaliation and escape if needed. I’m hovering around 15.5-16k HP, 2800 armor and with food and oil, about 48% crit chance with 66-70% crit damage. I don’t have access to Fractal gear yet though.

Maybe it’s just more practice needed. Very enjoyable though.

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Posted by: Manoa.5897

Manoa.5897

Hey Seven,
It appears you have an admirer over on the WvW boards.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/To-the-Mesmer-in-KING-SF-with-Fractal-Back

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Hey Seven,
It appears you have an admirer over on the WvW boards.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/To-the-Mesmer-in-KING-SF-with-Fractal-Back

<3 Good eye, Manoa.

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Posted by: mattenator.4328

mattenator.4328

have you decided which ascended amulet you’re going for? the ascended jewelry with +all stats seems to be the most enticing

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

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Cyyrix,

Yeah when I use a focus I can switch runes, so I use earth runes. The added protection proc, plus protection duration means a whole lot of 33% damage reduction.

Mattenator,

I’m currently using the ascended Triforge, but I will switch it out for the collar, power/tough/+Crit damage.

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

Your current setup is getting farther and farther from the description in the first post xD

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

XD I know right.

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Posted by: mattenator.4328

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Cyyrix,

Yeah when I use a focus I can switch runes, so I use earth runes. The added protection proc, plus protection duration means a whole lot of 33% damage reduction.

Mattenator,

I’m currently using the ascended Triforge, but I will switch it out for the collar, power/tough/+Crit damage.

so you must be above 2k toughness, dayum

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

XD I know right.

You’re going to have to start doing like Osi and making your guide a compendium of your build variations haha

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

XD I know right.

lol. seriously make a post with all your current setup ie gear/traits. PLEASE…

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Posted by: Criselli.7462

Criselli.7462

Great video (2/5). I’m not sure how many aspiring mesmers caught your use of Into the Void to interrupt would-be helpers while you stomped their friend. Glad to see I’m not the only one using the Scepter/Sword combo.

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

Mattenator,

I’m currently using the ascended Triforge, but I will switch it out for the collar, power/tough/+Crit damage.

Why main stat toughness rather than say, power? Because you switched out some stats on armor and now want to add toughness back? For myself I was leaning more toward the one that is main stat power, then prec and crit damage.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

What build are you running in your most recent video? It seems like a strange hybrid between a shatter build and phantasm focused. You’ve got deceptive evasion, but you tend not to shatter much, and your phantasms chunk people for a ton of damage.

Also, something you might want to keep in mind when running with the focus: Whenever you lay down temporal curtain, try to do the double leap combo with sword on it. Since you are getting hit a decent amount, and since that combo gets a clone with retaliation too, it just adds to the damage that you output with pretty much no downside.

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Vexor,

Yeah a curtain detonate is nice to clear for a pin

Jalliel,

I like to keep my ascended gear all P/T/Crit damage, because it offers so much of it, and is the only way to combine said stats on one piece of gear. If I need to add more offense or defense I can do that by modifying armor stats (with much less of a headache)

Proatheist,

I just moved some out of the illusion trait line to pick up the focus reflect.

update – [2/23/13]

Added a video for any staff users, Just messing around and having some fun!

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Posted by: Dokyo.3685

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I think you’re videos are great and they’ve encouraged me to try lots of different play styles. I was running GS + Sword/Focus for a long time, but I ended up trying out Staff + Sceptre/Focus for a while and it was pretty good. I was running it with mostly carrion gear and a little rabid so I could put out some mean confuse ticks. It just didn’t seem quite right for me though. I switched to a 20/20/0/0/30 Sceptre/Focus + Sword/Torch for a while and I liked it ok.

Now I’m running a 0/20/0/20/30 with Sceptre/Sword + Sword/Focus. This lets me get Mender’s Purity and trait for either Sceptre or Focus (it’s set to Sceptre right now). I’m wearing knight’s gear and a mix of carrion and rabid jewelry. This gives me about 20k hp and decent toughness. If I get a 5 stack of confuse up from my sceptre 3 it hits pretty hard and I still have power for my abilities to hit fairly hard. It’s just the auto attacks from sceptre leaves something to be desired.

What do you think about these traits I’m using? I was also thinking about trying 0/25/15/0/30 to get clones give confusion on death from dueling and the regen/protection and clones do random condition on death from chaos.

The biggest problem I have will all of these non GS builds I’ve been using is that people just run away from me. I’ve got my blink and my curtain to cripple/pull them, but other than that they just wave and walk away. It’s really frustrating sometimes, maybe I’m just spoiled with the GS range and the crip from the iZerker.

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

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Ketseras,

I wouldn’t fret too much over the trait lines… just find one that fits you’re play-style, and be certain that it synergizes with what you are trying to accomplish. I would recommend just setting up a trait line, playing with it for 2 or 3 days, then trying something else. Eventually you hit that “sweet spot” for your personal tastes. I love seeing these unique builds and it really makes the game more exciting and enjoyable to play.

With that curtain and sword 3 leap you should be able to handle runners fairly well… If not you can do what Andro told me to do and that was wave at them when they run and go right for their efeelings… it’s op.

Thanks for posting and sharing you’re build!

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

update – [02/25/13]

Hrmn… this video is about… well… :/ ugh… I need an aspirin.

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Posted by: venus.4509

venus.4509

great vids and advice …………….i was wondering how does or what would you suggest for going against and engineer

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

Grimms.9016

Just save that blink or phase retreat to get out of the puddle and be wary of their supply crate elite.

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Posted by: Davrollen.8935

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You should dig the update to the torch. No longer channeling ability!

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Posted by: Monztor.9207

Monztor.9207

You should dig the update to the torch. No longer channeling ability!

No seriously, this buff to The Prestige is so good. Makes it less clunky and now you can actually dodge roll and do other things and not interrupt your stealth or aoe burn proc now.

Now if only I could find a better torch skin. Using “Ambrosia” for my focus skin makes me lean a little more toward having my beer mug focus instead of the torch "/

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

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Davrollen,

Digging the hell out of the torch right now (cd bug aside). That added dps from the blast finisher -always- happening now is intense, not to mention using it for pins is sick too. Aoe blind, then you can pin while in prestige stealth, and that blind stops all knockdowns or stuns… phew!

Monztor,

Dude if u find a good torch skin let me know… i’ve checked them all out and they seem lacking… Maybe it’s time for Rodgort…

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

Kazhiel.8194

Yeah options for cool looking torches are kinda limited but some are kinda nice. http://argos-soft.net/GW2WeaponGallery/index.php?itemType=14

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Posted by: anonymity.9465

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Yeah only decent looking torches imo are Rodgort’s Flame , Fractal Torch and Rodgort .

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Posted by: ShiftSide.3645

ShiftSide.3645

I’m confused why you chose Dueling III- Retaliatory shield? When would we block? Why not Dueling IV- Sword skill CD reduction?

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Scepter/sword a staple of sevens build… 2 built in blocks and they do high damage.

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Posted by: ShiftSide.3645

ShiftSide.3645

The gear:
Main hand sword/off hand torch/Two handed staff (All power/tough/vitality)

Oh? I thought the gear was Sword/Torch?

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

The gear:
Main hand sword/off hand torch/Two handed staff (All power/tough/vitality)

Oh? I thought the gear was Sword/Torch?

in a couple videos he is running scepter/sword and sword torch

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Posted by: ShiftSide.3645

ShiftSide.3645

alrighty thanks

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Posted by: Reckless.6325

Reckless.6325

Hey man i really appreciate this, was looking for a new class to play and have fun with in WvWvW. I main elmentalist and its very fun but I play as a tanky build so I can’t really burst on demand, but I don’t wanna play a glass cannon xD… guess I’m leveling a mesmer now

Just 1 question about the gear, what stat allocations does the Karka Shell Earring give?

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

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ShiftSide,

Yup jportell is on the money (as usually). I switch around weapons quite a bit but when scepter and sword are in tow, those traits make a big difference.

Reckless,

Hey man thanks, the karka is a spread out stat allocation, which I will be switching for the p/t/crit damage earring when I have enough laurels (or guild accomidations)

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

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I’m not a fan of most of torch skins either; too short. So, if you are looking for something different, the charr steam and asura glyphic torch skins are kinda cool.

The steam skin looks more like an electrical doohicky and the asuran skin leaves a neat trail of glowing spheres behind you when you move. Fractal skin is fairly similar to the glyphic skin and cool too, but I’m not sure if it trails you. I’m actually using all glyphic weapon skins now simply for the unique glowing effect (2 swords, scepter, and torch)!

I will likely change the swords to fractals when I get them, tho.

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Posted by: Grimms.9016

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Gaiawolf,

Good idea Gaiawolf… hey pick me up a fractal torch skin too while you’re at it… whistles innocentrly

update – [03/04/13]

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

Sure, I plan to keep a few in my back pocket as spares.

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