Guild Wars 2

Hey devs, great change to Mimic!

But uh.. Is it going to affect heals/elites or just the 2 other utility skills?

No, just Utility. Stated in the video that it won’t affect Elites or Heals.

Curses!

It would be virtually a must-have if it did. As of now, you’re basically allowing yourself to slot two of the same utility (one of which has a set 90s CD) in exchange for losing diversity.

A Chronomancer with Mimic has some very interesting potential.

If mimic works with elite :
Chronomancer > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa :p

Op as hell!

Yeah it’s in ready up 35 on the gw2 YouTube channel, use the menu to start at Mesmer section and it goes over mimic changes there.

I do feel the skill is very situational and while double portal is nice I’m not really feeling it. If mimic set itself to the same cool down of the utility used (in other words that it mimics) that would be really nice. So portal would set mimic to a 72s CD but using it on something like blink would make it a 30s CD.

Reborn D.2769:

If mimic works with elite :
Chronomancer > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa :p

Op as hell!

Wrong. Mimic resets cd of the NEXT Skill used. Moa Mimic Moa wouldn’t work…

“This skill now causes the next utility slot skill you use within 10 seconds to recharge in 1 second. Increased recharge to 90 seconds.”

Me Games Ma.8426:

Reborn D.2769:

If mimic works with elite :
Chronomancer > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa :p

Op as hell!

Wrong. Mimic resets cd of the NEXT Skill used. Moa Mimic Moa wouldn’t work…

“This skill now causes the next utility slot skill you use within 10 seconds to recharge in 1 second. Increased recharge to 90 seconds.”

Still OP: Chronomancer > F5 > Mimic > Moa > Moa > F5 > Mimic > Moa > Moa

TyPin.9860:

Me Games Ma.8426:

Reborn D.2769:

If mimic works with elite :
Chronomancer > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa > F5 > Moa > Mimic > Moa :p

Op as hell!

Wrong. Mimic resets cd of the NEXT Skill used. Moa Mimic Moa wouldn’t work…

“This skill now causes the next utility slot skill you use within 10 seconds to recharge in 1 second. Increased recharge to 90 seconds.”

Still OP: Chronomancer > F5 > Mimic > Moa > Moa > F5 > Mimic > Moa > Moa

…lol imagine the rage.

Mimic will still see a major change being brought to point gameplay and other escape mechanisms which we have a shortage on!

I’m glad Mimic doesn’t effect elites or heals. That would be simply outrageous.

I’m looking forward most to double Blinks and Arcane Thefts. Other utilities that would have some interesting play with Mimic:

• Nullfield doubling it’s boon stripping capabilities and condition clearing.
• S. Inspiration giving a long uptime of boons to our allies.
• S. Domination dominating an enemy for 6 seconds… and that’s if you aren’t running sigil of paralyzation like I sometimes do with pistol.

If mimic affected moa, imagine mimic with chronomancer lol. I am fairly confident that would break the game.

There is variant with Signet of Illusions that should work though:
F5(start)
Moa
F5(end), Mimic, Signet, F5(start)
Moa
F5(end), Mimic(Signet), F5(start)
Moa
F5(end)
Moa

Korusef.3714:

There is variant with Signet of Illusions that should work though:
F5(start)
Moa
F5(end), Mimic, Signet, F5(start)
Moa
F5(end), Mimic(Signet), F5(start)
Moa
F5(end)
Moa

There’s an extra patch note in the list: Signet of Illusions: Reduced recharge to 60 seconds. This skill now specifies which skills it recharges

I’m thinking this is in preparation to communicate that Continuum Shift won’t be recharged by Signet of Illusions.

Kelthien.8593:

Korusef.3714:

There is variant with Signet of Illusions that should work though:
F5(start)
Moa
F5(end), Mimic, Signet, F5(start)
Moa
F5(end), Mimic(Signet), F5(start)
Moa
F5(end)
Moa

There’s an extra patch note in the list: Signet of Illusions: Reduced recharge to 60 seconds. This skill now specifies which skills it recharges

I’m thinking this is in preparation to communicate that Continuum Shift won’t be recharged by Signet of Illusions.

Good point and definitely a warranted change.

Yeah as I stated in another thread, I fully expect we’re going to see various (and reasonable) limitations put on F5…similar to Mimic. “No Elite’s” would also likely be on the list of things to change. It just kinda defeats the purpose of powerful Elites with long CDs to have an ability that resets the CD almost instantly. It would either mean nerfs to the Elite’s (or them being weak to begin with), or excluding them from F5.

I think the CD on Mimic is warranted. Every profession naturally has some utilities that are much stronger and/or more useful than others, especially in combination with some builds. So having the option to have one re-charge almost instantly is worth the long CD on Mimic. (You end up keeping the normal CD on that utility, which is really the more important part. If it set the CD of that ability to 90s, then I’d consider it pretty worthless.)

- If you were to make a Power PU build now, you wouldn’t have to get Torch anymore, as you can double up on Decoy + MI for plenty of stealth & escapes.

- Double 1200 range Blink is a blessing for basically any build and grants us mobility that rivals that of Thieves, Warriors, and Eles.

- In a traited Glamour build a double NF will be pretty amazing for your team, especially when coupled with the new TW.

As stated above, a double SoD with the new CS trait and a Paralyzation Sigil will mean two kitten stun in quick succession. There will be a lot of tears over this one! Draw out a stun break with an F3 shatter, then SoD…if they break out again, SoD again and dump him. Buh bye! This in organized team play is a death sentence times two. Then add Moa to the mix and it’s even worthwhile to trait the Sigils for a build heavily focused around CCing enemies to be focus-ganked by your DPSers. (Pistol #5, SoDx2, Moa, and Confounding Suggestions. Ouch!)

Double MI could potentially allow for enough illusion generation in some specialized builds that don’t involve Dueling/DE. It could be enough to make Chronomancy work as an illusion factory (between F5 and Mimic and the 2 traits to generate illusions), or perhaps even some without either Dueling or Chrono. Dunno maybe a very tanky & supportive build, but one that can put out a solid damage spike via 2x MI + Phantasms. (Insp/Chaos/Dom)

Lots of neat possibilities for Mimic and the new system in general.

Or double Veil for WvW zerging (although I am pretty sure OMFG WvW raid unkittenro’s command won’t need to resort to such measures.)

EDIT: How did under_Pyro_s command got translated is beyond me.

You’re right Korusef, we’ll be using MI instead of veil.

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