Guild Wars 2

Profession Skills
Fixed a bug that prevented minions from quickly targeting your attack target.

I shall not hold out hope.

Ok I lied PLEASE GRENTH LET THIS BE TRUE!

Don’t believe it.

good good

but lets see if it works first. cause this isn’t the first time they’ve fixed that buy

I hope that it’s fixed once and for all

Now we just need “minions can cross small gaps” and “minions move at increased movement speed when faced with a high amount of terrain” (I’ve seen this done successfully before, probably having to do with distance from target and estimated path distance being compared, no idea, but still needs to happen.)

This is an amazing first step. They actually all swap target together, as a group, and do so within about a second of you switching target.

As an added bonus they also rally people!

Rav.9475:

As an added bonus they also rally people!

Ahhhh crud you’re kidding? Well….least it can work in PvE now I guess.

LET ME KNOW IF THIS WORKS!
Sorry for caps, but I’ve been itching for a minionmancer build that actually works.

I tested minions in wvw and they are great now,they attack every target fast and without problems,flesh golem too.

Wow… Just wow. Cannot wait to pick my b’day dye and play MM.

Rauderi.8706:

LET ME KNOW IF THIS WORKS!
Sorry for caps, but I’ve been itching for a minionmancer build that actually works.

Same, after trying out Rise my theory crafting and build making has been dying to get on board with making a viable Condi minion man we.

It seems to work quite nicely!
One thing I noticed that they attack your target only. Just select target and press any attack skill and they will got for your target.
As for example go to the heart of the Mists and target a Golem that is not near you. Then cleave a another golem in front of you and they will go for the target instead of the Golem you’re actually hitting.

Took about three years, but I think they got it down.

Minions AI issues >>
- They don’t always attack our target.
- They don’t switch targets when we do.
- They don’t quit combat when we do.
- They shouldn’t attack unless we do even if they were hit. ( This issue forces us to enter combat mode when we don’t want to )

All of these issues are fixed , hail Anet !
We are meta now
With Rise! Reaper’s skill , we will be gods

This must be the twilight zone.

TheLastNobody.8319:

Rav.9475:

As an added bonus they also rally people!

Ahhhh crud you’re kidding? Well….least it can work in PvE now I guess.

Ehmm … I’m either not competent at reading the patch notes or this is about to get fixed, because I’m 90% sure I was getting rallied whenever a Bone Minion / Jagged Horror of me died just now. I rallied 3 times in a row and was still surrounded by enemies.

Waiting for Bhawb’s stream now.

Hype Boyz!

CastIron.7364:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Rav.9475:

As an added bonus they also rally people!

Ahhhh crud you’re kidding? Well….least it can work in PvE now I guess.

Ehmm … I’m either not competent at reading the patch notes or this is about to get fixed, because I’m 90% sure I was getting rallied whenever a Bone Minion / Jagged Horror of me died just now. I rallied 3 times in a row and was still surrounded by enemies.

So…wait are enemies rallying off our minions or are we rallying off our minions, or both?

TheLastNobody.8319:

CastIron.7364:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Rav.9475:

As an added bonus they also rally people!

Ahhhh crud you’re kidding? Well….least it can work in PvE now I guess.

Ehmm … I’m either not competent at reading the patch notes or this is about to get fixed, because I’m 90% sure I was getting rallied whenever a Bone Minion / Jagged Horror of me died just now. I rallied 3 times in a row and was still surrounded by enemies.

So…wait are enemies rallying off our minions or are we rallying off our minions, or both?

Can’t be sure about enemies, as I’m not an experienced MM and still get confused by so many NPCs around me, but I am definitely rallying out of nowhere and I always hear Death Novas sound effect accompanying it. On the other hand enemies didn’t seem to rally more often than before.
And no Death Nova doesn’t one-shot my enemies.

CastIron.7364:

TheLastNobody.8319:

CastIron.7364:

TheLastNobody.8319:

Rav.9475:

As an added bonus they also rally people!

Ahhhh crud you’re kidding? Well….least it can work in PvE now I guess.

Ehmm … I’m either not competent at reading the patch notes or this is about to get fixed, because I’m 90% sure I was getting rallied whenever a Bone Minion / Jagged Horror of me died just now. I rallied 3 times in a row and was still surrounded by enemies.

So…wait are enemies rallying off our minions or are we rallying off our minions, or both?

Can’t be sure about enemies, as I’m not an experienced MM and still get confused by so many NPCs around me, but I am definitely rallying out of nowhere and I always hear Death Novas sound effect accompanying it. On the other hand enemies didn’t seem to rally more often than before.
And no Death Nova doesn’t one-shot my enemies.

Me neither. Need someone with an arena to be certain but I am fairly sure people rallied when my minions died.

Also there is this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Rally-off-of-mesmer-clones
So we better wait for an official response.

Ok ok guys, nice joke but troll is over. Minions do not actually attack now right? You got me good haha.

Anet said that , I played for 2 hours without any AI bugs

The Demonic Spirit.3157:

Minions AI issues >>
- They don’t always attack our target.
- They don’t switch targets when we do.
- They don’t quit combat when we do.
- They shouldn’t attack unless we do even if they were hit. ( This issue forces us to enter combat mode when we don’t want to )

All of these issues are fixed , hail Anet !
We are meta now
With Rise! Reaper’s skill , we will be gods

it only took almost 3 years to get fixed

They are more responsive then I ever remember. Thanks Anet, this has revitalized my interest in the spec that brought me to the game and profession.

ok just played it, they work pretty kitten good in pve and pvp I’ll admit, but they still seem to have problems pathing in wvw (consistently) but then again that doesn’t surprise me since there’s so many buggy spots in wvw now like in camps where you can be standing on flat ground and get obstructed bugs, so maybe it’s not their fault but w/e terrain bug that is

Rym.1469:

Waiting for Bhawb’s stream now.

Hype Boyz!

Yeah I wouldn’t wait too much, moved back to my room for university, and the internet here is complete garbage. Tried to play a game of League yesterday and would spike from 100-300 ping constantly.

That said, this looks really nice. Assuming it fixes the issues associated with minions, which it absolutely should fix the most basic ones, this is a great start. Still need to look at the fact that minions have to stop to attack so even if they have a target they can be infinitely kited after 1 attack, and some things related to being too easy to kite, but still a great start.

I haven’t checked yet. But reddit seems to be full of necro’s who say that minions finally respond properly.
They attack, they move as a group and when you swap target, they swap target as well (not always what you want, but it’s an improvement either way).

Again though, haven’t checked yet. Mostly hearsay.

Bhawb.7408:

Rym.1469:

Waiting for Bhawb’s stream now.

Hype Boyz!

Yeah I wouldn’t wait too much, moved back to my room for university, and the internet here is complete garbage. Tried to play a game of League yesterday and would spike from 100-300 ping constantly.

That said, this looks really nice. Assuming it fixes the issues associated with minions, which it absolutely should fix the most basic ones, this is a great start. Still need to look at the fact that minions have to stop to attack so even if they have a target they can be infinitely kited after 1 attack, and some things related to being too easy to kite, but still a great start.

:(

I’m moving back in a week so I will be able to stream more often in exchange, I have waay better connection where I study :P

They are a hell of a lot better now, this made more of an impact than I thought, it’s incredible!

Me and a guildie ran AC story with all minions, and it worked well. Then we and two others ran CoE p1 and… It went astonishingly well. Granted, minions are still somewhat tricky to use in that context, but, by Grenth, the deeps went up and it was great

Such a tiny little note (fixed a bug) and what an impact. Minion AI after the patch works great. Finally!

Well i just got back and tried it…..oh dear lord, it’s so amazing, I need Rise! back now for my Condi-minionmancer! It’s so amazing having minions work the way they are supposed to! THEY EVEN MATCH YOUR MOVEMENT SPEED NOW! Granted they will lag behind if you go over bumpy terrain but they are speed demons now! I’m even running with the 25% movement speed on dagger trait!

do minions still die under water?

EremiteAngel.9765:

do minions still die under water?

If you have them slotted in your bar on land and in water, no they don’t. As has been the case for quite some time. The only minion that always dies in water is the flesh golem. And, of course, the ground targeted Flesh Wurm can’t be used under water

I just tested, they attack instantly. I’m loving it, now I can finally use minions. Even the jagged horrors attack

Logging in right now to check all your lies and innuendo about minions “working.” Pfft I wasn’t born yesterday.

Balekai.6083:

Logging in right now to check all your lies and innuendo about minions “working.” Pfft I wasn’t born yesterday.

Prepare to eat your words and cry tears of joy like the rest of us, my friend

how are they in a PvP setting?

So, is MM the (second) best necro build in sPvP now?

Silverkey.2078:

So, is MM the (second) best necro build in sPvP now?

Thats what I’m trying to test out but I’m at my annual point of being fed up with GW2 so I doubt I’ll get very far in pushing the build to its limits.

Silverkey.2078:

So, is MM the (second) best necro build in sPvP now?

Well , I think it’s the best one now. Six transferred conditions per 10 secs , amazing healing , their good actives & flesh armor ( wastes foes AOE ).

I tried Twilight Arbor with minions. :p They still died to intense AoE and conditions but were much more responsive.

Yah!

Anchoku.8142:

I tried Twilight Arbor with minions. :p They still died to intense AoE and conditions but were much more responsive.

Yah!

One plus to that, though, is that they tend to cap the AoE limit, which protects your team, even if they die. So, theoretically, minions might be able to be more (i.e.: actually) viable in dungeons now that they cooperate much better

Minions are a solid thing to use in PvE (note, don’t actually run an “MM” build, run DPS with minions) when you realize your group is garbage and needs the help. The tanking is decent.

Bhawb.7408:

Minions are a solid thing to use in PvE (note, don’t actually run an “MM” build, run DPS with minions) when you realize your group is garbage and needs the help. The tanking is decent.

What do mean by that, exactly, Bhawb? Would a soldier minion build fit the bill?

Silverkey.2078:

So, is MM the (second) best necro build in sPvP now?

I don’t see how. I mean, if ranger pets are melting right now and that’s a chief ranger complaint, imagine minions who are even squishier to cleave/aoe spam.

Bhawb.7408:

Minions are a solid thing to use in PvE (note, don’t actually run an “MM” build, run DPS with minions) when you realize your group is garbage and needs the help. The tanking is decent.

I ran full zerker/scholar dagger/focus/staff with blood magic, death magic, and soul reaping and all minions, not relying on the minions for much of anything but it was great watching them spawn and get right to business.