Guild Wars 2

Ranger: Read the Wind
Ranger: Your arrows are swift and deadly, but in some scenarios they are not as fast as they need to be and your enemies can dodge them easily. With Marksmanship’s new Read the Wind, your longbow arrows will fire at twice their base velocity, allowing for supreme accuracy at long range.

Got me excited there for a bit ANet and this is the leak that you want to post for Rangers? could’ve been better and for Grandmaster trait?, hopefully it buffs our damage as well

Source: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/traits-unleashed-forty-new-traits-and-more/?utm_source=client

To be honest, if the rest of the traits we get new are like that… I mean, what the actual kitten. A grandmaster trait for something that should already work from the beginning? You don’t even need to dodge, simple sidestepping and you’re safe… For what does the longbow has this much range if it won’t work. Welcome to the ranger. When I look at the mesmer’s one, I’d like to puke. "The new trait for mesmers allows them to gain additional benefit when disrupting enemy skills. Power Block will be introduced to the Domination line and will change the recharge of an interrupted skill from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. "

Oh my god, this blog post is major! Gonna have to reread it a couple times, but it looks pretty exciting.

Don’t knock it too much until we try it. Yeha sinking it behind a grandmaster is frustrating, but it’s an improvement. I almost feel like they listened to my suggestion some when I suggested something like this a while back. I just wish they would consider also my suggestion for adding a function to the AA that is built into the longbow itself where you can hold down the button for a longer range and higher damage shot (but it would only be that one shot, pretty much like drawing back a real bow for a long distance, well aimed shot).

OMG, the end is coming.

Have you seen some of the other Traits?

Shirk.6421:

To be honest, if the rest of the traits we get new are like that… I mean, what the actual kitten. A grandmaster trait for something that should already work from the beginning? You don’t even need to dodge, simple sidestepping and you’re safe… For what does the longbow has this much range if it won’t work. Welcome to the ranger. When I look at the mesmer’s one, I’d like to puke. "The new trait for mesmers allows them to gain additional benefit when disrupting enemy skills. Power Block will be introduced to the Domination line and will change the recharge of an interrupted skill from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. "

Yup. When I looked at Mesmer’s new trait you know it will be a bad day for everyone, specially for a thief who can spam their skills = more chance to interrupt.

I wish ANet could elaborate on Read The Wind more, if its just increase in arrow speed then this is just crap. But if they also give us extra Power with it like +150 together with increase arrow speed then sure.

i just read the post by anet now and got me exited, new skills, new traits and new stuff seem cool. That been said when you look at all the grandmaster other classes are getting and compare it to the Ranger LOL, you know this is going to be bad. Once again, for what it seems Ranger got the worse. If read the wind dont offer dmg increase or something else other than arrow speed while other classes get interrupts, survival and many other things. Not that i was expecting much from anet on rangers anyway

Terravos.4059:

Have you seen some of the other Traits?

Have you seen Mesmer’s traits? Move out of the way, GW1 Mesmer in revival coming

The Mesmer one is way way overpowered…

If I can read a trait like that.. and instantly see how bloody overpowered it is..I question what the hell anet is thinking

Technobabble, which is a 6 second daze with MoC is incredibly powerful….The ability to lock out abilities for 10 bloody seconds every time you interrupt is just so bloody oped

anyway i dont play GW2 anymore and to be honest i just will connect this month to do the monthly which i havent finish, no other reason to log in. On april if things dont get better, read the wind LOL is a joke, seem like the trend will continue. Dark Souls 2 arrive on april anyway which i am a big fan of so they better offer something amazing to make me log back in,

AEFA.9035:

Shirk.6421:

To be honest, if the rest of the traits we get new are like that… I mean, what the actual kitten. A grandmaster trait for something that should already work from the beginning? You don’t even need to dodge, simple sidestepping and you’re safe… For what does the longbow has this much range if it won’t work. Welcome to the ranger. When I look at the mesmer’s one, I’d like to puke. "The new trait for mesmers allows them to gain additional benefit when disrupting enemy skills. Power Block will be introduced to the Domination line and will change the recharge of an interrupted skill from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. "

Yup. When I looked at Mesmer’s new trait you know it will be a bad day for everyone, specially for a thief who can spam their skills = more chance to interrupt.

I wish ANet could elaborate on Read The Wind more, if its just increase in arrow speed then this is just crap. But if they also give us extra Power with it like +150 together with increase arrow speed then sure.

Too bad thiefs don’t need to give a kitten because they don’t have any cooldowns… (except for heal and elites, ofc)

When i saw tha new traits, and how cool they looked i was so excited for the ranger trait… and then i read it and…… lolwut? seriously?
But guys, there is still hope. They only shared 1 new gm trait per class so far, and EVERY trait line will get a new gm trait so we still have some chance to get something cool!

Terravos.4059:

The Mesmer one is way way overpowered…

If I can read a trait like that.. and instantly see how bloody overpowered it is..I question what the hell anet is thinking

Technobabble, which is a 6 second daze with MoC is incredibly powerful….The ability to lock out abilities for 10 bloody seconds every time you interrupt is just so bloody oped

Seems like they only play dungeons, I have no other explanation.

Shirk.6421:

AEFA.9035:

Shirk.6421:

To be honest, if the rest of the traits we get new are like that… I mean, what the actual kitten. A grandmaster trait for something that should already work from the beginning? You don’t even need to dodge, simple sidestepping and you’re safe… For what does the longbow has this much range if it won’t work. Welcome to the ranger. When I look at the mesmer’s one, I’d like to puke. "The new trait for mesmers allows them to gain additional benefit when disrupting enemy skills. Power Block will be introduced to the Domination line and will change the recharge of an interrupted skill from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. "

Yup. When I looked at Mesmer’s new trait you know it will be a bad day for everyone, specially for a thief who can spam their skills = more chance to interrupt.

I wish ANet could elaborate on Read The Wind more, if its just increase in arrow speed then this is just crap. But if they also give us extra Power with it like +150 together with increase arrow speed then sure.

Too bad thiefs don’t need to give a kitten because they don’t have any cooldowns… (except for heal and elites, ofc)

LOL. Do you even know what this means for you thieves? It means you will get cooldowns if you get interrupted by Mesmer with this trait.

Im also under the impression you haven’t played GW1, if not, then welcome to what the real Mesmers can do. Enjoy your baptismal once this goes live.

I was reading the traits and got all exited, especially the guardian one and then I saw the ranger one. They were short on ideas or something so to actually put a QOL change behind trait points? Seems they really ore out of touch with rangers, even ‘after’ the CDI

Druss.6917:

Don’t knock it too much until we try it. Yeha sinking it behind a grandmaster is frustrating, but it’s an improvement. I almost feel like they listened to my suggestion some when I suggested something like this a while back. I just wish they would consider also my suggestion for adding a function to the AA that is built into the longbow itself where you can hold down the button for a longer range and higher damage shot (but it would only be that one shot, pretty much like drawing back a real bow for a long distance, well aimed shot).

Needed QOL changes behind trait point wall is not an improvement.

shinreigari.7318:

When i saw tha new traits, and how cool they looked i was so excited for the ranger trait… and then i read it and…… lolwut? seriously?
But guys, there is still hope. They only shared 1 new gm trait per class so far, and EVERY trait line will get a new gm trait so we still have some chance to get something cool!

i wish that was true but the trend with anet, we all know it. Its been 2 years now and the first GM trait they release compare to others is laughable so don’t keep your hopes up.

You can only interrupt abilities with Cast times

Meaning it’ll work on some of the Thieves Heals, and things like Heart Seeker or

Its not actual cooldowns of abilities either, When you interrupt any ability, its put on a 5 second cooldown right now…This changes that cooldown to 10 seconds..

What the actual kitten.
I don’t even.
How about giving us faster arrows inherently and a GM trait that actually SHOULD be a GM trait? ._.

Easy there everyone…we don’t know the other changes coming to the class. It’s a little premature to judge how that trait will impact us without seeing the big picture.

I’m optimistic that the CDI wasn’t a complete waste of time and we’ll see some good changes.

The real exciting news (since we have basically zero info on new traits) are the trait resets anytime you want for free and all the blog posts scheduled for april.

These are going to completely change the game, I’m thinking.

NemesiS.6749:

shinreigari.7318:

When i saw tha new traits, and how cool they looked i was so excited for the ranger trait… and then i read it and…… lolwut? seriously?
But guys, there is still hope. They only shared 1 new gm trait per class so far, and EVERY trait line will get a new gm trait so we still have some chance to get something cool!

i wish that was true but the trend with anet, we all know it. Its been 2 years now and the first GM trait they release compare to others is laughable so don’t keep your hopes up.

I know…. but i’d rather just be optimistic than to delete my precious -even if kinda “useless”- ranger right now

shinreigari.7318:

When i saw tha new traits, and how cool they looked i was so excited for the ranger trait… and then i read it and…… lolwut? seriously?
But guys, there is still hope. They only shared 1 new gm trait per class so far, and EVERY trait line will get a new gm trait so we still have some chance to get something cool!

Well it would be the smartest, if you want a huge hype which Anet wants they have been doing it whole week, to show off the best ones. For the other classes they are WOW (most) for ranger this is a very bad one IMO, if thats the best they have well…

Sad day for LB rangers

Lobo.1296:

Easy there everyone…we don’t know the other changes coming to the class. It’s a little premature to judge how that trait will impact us without seeing the big picture.

I’m optimistic that the CDI wasn’t a complete waste of time and we’ll see some good changes.

I really hope so. Its just that compare to other profession we get this quality of life change that should’ve been given a few months back. I really hope you’re right though. I really hope.

I’m usually the type to take a wait and try it before talking down about it… but come on… who in the [censored] would ever take that trait over signet of the beastmaster?

Every time ANet does something for this class they reinforce the idea that not a single one of them play it.

The irony of the GM traits they posted is kitten near everyone of them is better then the Ranger one, and they should had a CDI on Ranger being crappy

AEFA.9035:

Shirk.6421:

AEFA.9035:

Shirk.6421:

To be honest, if the rest of the traits we get new are like that… I mean, what the actual kitten. A grandmaster trait for something that should already work from the beginning? You don’t even need to dodge, simple sidestepping and you’re safe… For what does the longbow has this much range if it won’t work. Welcome to the ranger. When I look at the mesmer’s one, I’d like to puke. "The new trait for mesmers allows them to gain additional benefit when disrupting enemy skills. Power Block will be introduced to the Domination line and will change the recharge of an interrupted skill from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. "

Yup. When I looked at Mesmer’s new trait you know it will be a bad day for everyone, specially for a thief who can spam their skills = more chance to interrupt.

I wish ANet could elaborate on Read The Wind more, if its just increase in arrow speed then this is just crap. But if they also give us extra Power with it like +150 together with increase arrow speed then sure.

Too bad thiefs don’t need to give a kitten because they don’t have any cooldowns… (except for heal and elites, ofc)

LOL. Do you even know what this means for you thieves? It means you will get cooldowns if you get interrupted by Mesmer with this trait.

Im also under the impression you haven’t played GW1, if not, then welcome to what the real Mesmers can do. Enjoy your baptismal once this goes live.

Mesmer: Power Block
Enemies of mesmers beware: they’ve learned how to mess with your skill recharge! The new trait for mesmers allows them to gain additional benefit when disrupting enemy skills. Power Block will be introduced to the Domination line and will change the recharge of an interrupted skill from 5 seconds to 10 seconds. This will not affect skills that have no recharge, but I’d imagine that stopping a necromancer from consuming conditions would surely put a nail in their coffin.

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m usually the type to take a wait and try it before talking down about it… but come on… who in the [censored] would ever take that trait over signet of the beastmaster?

Every time ANet does something for this class they reinforce the idea that not a single one of them play it.

heh, Actually taking it over Signet of the Beastmaster is the least of its problem

Usually the longbow builds grab Longbow Range Increase and Pierce Arrows, which already take up the Master and GM Slots

so there is no space to even grab that ability in the first place

Guardian trait is focking OP, 3k hp o.O

Terravos.4059:

The irony of the GM traits they posted is kitten near everyone of them is better then the Ranger one, and they should had a CDI on Ranger being crappy

to be fair, some of the ones that are amazing are still not likely to be taken over the alternatives. Thief one for example would never be taken.

Lolwut warriors get more DPS

Terravos.4059:

Atherakhia.4086:

I’m usually the type to take a wait and try it before talking down about it… but come on… who in the [censored] would ever take that trait over signet of the beastmaster?

Every time ANet does something for this class they reinforce the idea that not a single one of them play it.

heh, Actually taking it over Signet of the Beastmaster is the least of its problem

Usually the longbow builds grab Longbow Range Increase and Pierce Arrows, which already take up the Master and GM Slots

so there is no space to even grab that ability in the first place

…

Now I’m really crying.

I hope the Skirmishing trait is a shortbow trait and not a trap trait.

/sigh… i don’t know if “read the wind” will be worth splitting up “eagle eye + piercing arrows” combo in PvE. i’d personally rather have spotter as a minor trait instead of alpha training, and piercing arrows as a minor instead of whatever the trait is called that gives auto-crit to opening strike.

but yeah, the anytime trait resets are gonna be nice!

Let’s wait and see! My hopes are for slightly more interactive play than Ranger is today. I love mine but it’s a bit too much #1.

Longbow users already have to make a lose-lose choose because spotter is also in that line; that will be 5 “critical” traits in the MM line. I really think they’re going to be reworking the line based on the CDI feedback and this new trait reveal. They did say they were reworking a necro traitline for the upcoming update.

I do like how Anet have brought back a GW1 skill name into GW2, but all I like about this “Grandmaster” trait stops there.

The biggest problem I see with this is it’s only focusing on longbow, and by only buffing its velocity speed. This is just laughable. Compared to the rest of the revealed traits where it really shows off a component of the class, we’re left with one and only trait that will have a minimum impact. This skill seems it is only for sPvP and small WvW roaming. Longbow in PvE and Zerg v Zerg, it makes no difference how fast the arrows travel.

If Anet wants to focus on longbow, why not change it to something more Marksman related, “Your arrows have an X% chance to become unblockable”. This seems more fair and logical, especially when it comes to PvP, and some elements on PvE. This allows rangers to have a chance to bypass some blocking skills, while increasing DPS for a situational scenario.

Another alternative is “Your longbow skills inflict an additional stack of Vulnerability for 2s”. This would overall increase the DPS of a Ranger, for all forms of content.

I do hope the other Grandmaster traits for the Ranger are not as disappointing as this revealed trait.

I can’t decide whether my favourite thing about this is that it is yet another longbow trait in the over stuffed marksmanship line or that its only use will be trying to combat a bug in ranged combat.

Can’t wait to see what the other grandmaster traits are, should be hilarious.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that we’ll be seeing some trait reworks. There’s no way they would put another longbow trait in MM without reworking the other stuff, right?

Right?

Even so, this trait doesn’t look like it’s worth taking if it’s only more arrow speed for a GM trait. While the concept is nice, I just don’t seeing it being very useful in practice. Now if it were also merged with Eagle Eye, that’d be another story. Arrows move twice as fast and range is increased to 1500? Sounds solid.

Ranger: Read the Wind
Ranger: Your arrows are swift and deadly, but in some scenarios they are not as fast as they need to be and your enemies can dodge them easily. With Marksmanship’s new Read the Wind, your longbow arrows will fire at twice their base velocity, allowing for supreme accuracy at long range.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING A TRAIT ON AN ESSENTIAL THING THAT WE SHOUDL HAVE BY BASIC. FEW FIRST WORDS: VERY NICE JOKE.
SERIOUSLY ITS A KITTEN IN OUR FACE….

-.-’ Hope-o-meter dropped

New grandmaster for ranger traits:
Reduce Repair Cost
Auto Respawn
Turn into Warrior

Honestly tho, I don’t know if I want to see what the other new traits are…

Krugan.7901:

Lolwut warriors get more DPS

Don’t worry they will probably move it to Strength and merge it with Dual Wielding then give Warrior a new grand master for Arms.

Actually, the Grandmaster Trait is properly structured so that it adjusts a base value — the weapon itself could see improvements to damage and projectiles speed that benefits ALL longbow users, with the trait simply improving things for specialists.

Stand by on the panic. Its part of a larger picture.

It will be a bit frustrating for this in the Marksmanship line, there are soooo many traits that Longbow users need already. Basically I cant take this trait since it will replace something else vital to my build. Really it should just be merged with something else like eagle eye.

aww so my overpowered build 14/14/14/14/14 wont be posible anymore ?
sarcasm off; it was about time…

Krugan.7901:

Lolwut warriors get more DPS

Be serious — they get a trait that lures them off of the hammer/greatsword crack pipe.

This is one of those wait and see things for me. If you are really going to complain about the fact that we have to choose which longbow traits to take, you should consider that Engineers are forced to do that with their Rifles already.

You have to also consider that there might be other changes coming to the Ranger as well. Signet changes, changes to the longbow’s skills, etc.

I’m not defending Anet’s design decisions or anything, because I freaking hate them sometimes too. But I am saying that the reaction to this may be a little over the top.

Double the speed on arrow released is definitely underrated, they should at least increase the critical chance and/or critical damage by about 15% and it would make sense because if you can read the wind, not only will your attacks be faster, but they will be much more accurate and deadlier.

While we are at it, might as well make a post on the balance forums about this and flood the kitten out of it so that it doesn’t take them 1 year to make an update to the new trait.

If it also reduces the attack speed of LB1 to 0,75s from 1s it could be a very nice trait, otherwise… I don’t think it’ll be worthy to be taken.

Sigh. I feel let down, but gotta wait to see how it pans out. Who knows? This may be the turn around for us rangers.

Relax guys. The ele gets more healing that only affects others. At least your trait has a niche use…extra healing on other players is about as useless as it gets, given that most of our healing comes from blast finishers ratehr than our heals themselves.

And of course, the fact that nobody needs or wants a healer…anywhere.