Guild Wars 2

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

Lysico.4906:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

So walking along in WvW… Panning my Camera around to watch my 6. Panned it back around to watch my front. Started to pan it back around to my 6 again and ended up on the ground. Full tanky spec ranger. .2 seconds to die. 1.5 seconds to hit the ground.

Can anyone guess what killed me?

If anyone see’s a Random Mac. Truck in WvW please let them know hit and runs are illegal. Ty^^

If you died in .2 seconds to die I don’t believe you are tanky at all lol.

You forgot my 1.5 Seconds to hit the ground =P

I still dont believe you are tanky at all then. I’m a tanky ranger and I don’t get dropped in even 10 seconds.

Okay, maybe not 1.7 seconds but it felt like it. Was just a lil story of my experience, was meant to be for the lol’s factor. Not to start a debate on my spec or every little detail of my post. =)

So why post it though? People that totally over exaggerate things like this, give a really poor reflection of the real situation.

And what situation is this that you speak of? Am i not allowed to post my experience of ranger in the ranger update forums? This whole thread is a reflection on how poor the ranger is as a class atm. And how poorly Anet addressed this “Real Situation”

But you’re expressing your experiences as if it’s the classes fault, you mentioned WvW. So my real guess is that you are not geared and got ganked by a better geared played and got killed instantly, surprise! That would happen to every poorly geared class.

You are suggesting sense i mention WvW i am not geared? That is simply not the case. I am geared, and i do know how to play my class. I am not just some mere nooby that had just entered WvW. I have 900hours invested in Gw2. With 200+ hours on Ranger alone. Granted that doesn’t mean i know everything there is to know. But it is not hard to distinguish between a well built class and a class that is just lacking.

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

Lysico.4906:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

So walking along in WvW… Panning my Camera around to watch my 6. Panned it back around to watch my front. Started to pan it back around to my 6 again and ended up on the ground. Full tanky spec ranger. .2 seconds to die. 1.5 seconds to hit the ground.

Can anyone guess what killed me?

If anyone see’s a Random Mac. Truck in WvW please let them know hit and runs are illegal. Ty^^

If you died in .2 seconds to die I don’t believe you are tanky at all lol.

You forgot my 1.5 Seconds to hit the ground =P

I still dont believe you are tanky at all then. I’m a tanky ranger and I don’t get dropped in even 10 seconds.

Okay, maybe not 1.7 seconds but it felt like it. Was just a lil story of my experience, was meant to be for the lol’s factor. Not to start a debate on my spec or every little detail of my post. =)

So why post it though? People that totally over exaggerate things like this, give a really poor reflection of the real situation.

And what situation is this that you speak of? Am i not allowed to post my experience of ranger in the ranger update forums? This whole thread is a reflection on how poor the ranger is as a class atm. And how poorly Anet addressed this “Real Situation”

But you’re expressing your experiences as if it’s the classes fault, you mentioned WvW. So my real guess is that you are not geared and got ganked by a better geared played and got killed instantly, surprise! That would happen to every poorly geared class.

You are suggesting sense i mention WvW i am not geared? That is simply not the case. I am geared, and i do know how to play my class. I am not just some mere nooby that had just entered WvW. I have 900hours invested in Gw2. With 200+ hours on Ranger alone. Granted that doesn’t mean i know everything there is to know. But it is not hard to distinguish between a well built class and a class that is just lacking.

How do you die in 1.5 seconds with the most dodging capable class with 4 built in evades in a weapon set and with several stun breaks. Do you not carry stun breaks?

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

Lysico.4906:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

So walking along in WvW… Panning my Camera around to watch my 6. Panned it back around to watch my front. Started to pan it back around to my 6 again and ended up on the ground. Full tanky spec ranger. .2 seconds to die. 1.5 seconds to hit the ground.

Can anyone guess what killed me?

If anyone see’s a Random Mac. Truck in WvW please let them know hit and runs are illegal. Ty^^

If you died in .2 seconds to die I don’t believe you are tanky at all lol.

You forgot my 1.5 Seconds to hit the ground =P

I still dont believe you are tanky at all then. I’m a tanky ranger and I don’t get dropped in even 10 seconds.

Okay, maybe not 1.7 seconds but it felt like it. Was just a lil story of my experience, was meant to be for the lol’s factor. Not to start a debate on my spec or every little detail of my post. =)

So why post it though? People that totally over exaggerate things like this, give a really poor reflection of the real situation.

And what situation is this that you speak of? Am i not allowed to post my experience of ranger in the ranger update forums? This whole thread is a reflection on how poor the ranger is as a class atm. And how poorly Anet addressed this “Real Situation”

But you’re expressing your experiences as if it’s the classes fault, you mentioned WvW. So my real guess is that you are not geared and got ganked by a better geared played and got killed instantly, surprise! That would happen to every poorly geared class.

You are suggesting sense i mention WvW i am not geared? That is simply not the case. I am geared, and i do know how to play my class. I am not just some mere nooby that had just entered WvW. I have 900hours invested in Gw2. With 200+ hours on Ranger alone. Granted that doesn’t mean i know everything there is to know. But it is not hard to distinguish between a well built class and a class that is just lacking.

How do you die in 1.5 seconds with the most dodging capable class with 4 built in evades in a weapon set and with several stun breaks. Do you not carry stun breaks?

Okay I’m done with this little argument or w/e it is. If you can’t get a little laugh out of a simple story of mine then i have no need to keep debating with you. Apparently all you wanna do is argue, and pick and prod at what i had posted. You win guy.
Sincerely, A concerned Ranger/Gw player.

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

Lysico.4906:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Drago.1634:

So walking along in WvW… Panning my Camera around to watch my 6. Panned it back around to watch my front. Started to pan it back around to my 6 again and ended up on the ground. Full tanky spec ranger. .2 seconds to die. 1.5 seconds to hit the ground.

Can anyone guess what killed me?

If anyone see’s a Random Mac. Truck in WvW please let them know hit and runs are illegal. Ty^^

If you died in .2 seconds to die I don’t believe you are tanky at all lol.

You forgot my 1.5 Seconds to hit the ground =P

I still dont believe you are tanky at all then. I’m a tanky ranger and I don’t get dropped in even 10 seconds.

Okay, maybe not 1.7 seconds but it felt like it. Was just a lil story of my experience, was meant to be for the lol’s factor. Not to start a debate on my spec or every little detail of my post. =)

So why post it though? People that totally over exaggerate things like this, give a really poor reflection of the real situation.

And what situation is this that you speak of? Am i not allowed to post my experience of ranger in the ranger update forums? This whole thread is a reflection on how poor the ranger is as a class atm. And how poorly Anet addressed this “Real Situation”

But you’re expressing your experiences as if it’s the classes fault, you mentioned WvW. So my real guess is that you are not geared and got ganked by a better geared played and got killed instantly, surprise! That would happen to every poorly geared class.

You are suggesting sense i mention WvW i am not geared? That is simply not the case. I am geared, and i do know how to play my class. I am not just some mere nooby that had just entered WvW. I have 900hours invested in Gw2. With 200+ hours on Ranger alone. Granted that doesn’t mean i know everything there is to know. But it is not hard to distinguish between a well built class and a class that is just lacking.

How do you die in 1.5 seconds with the most dodging capable class with 4 built in evades in a weapon set and with several stun breaks. Do you not carry stun breaks?

are you an idiot? stun breaks? you say that like we have multiple….we have 1 stun break and that is lightening reflexes but the recharge and damage on it make it pointless to even have on your bar. 4 built in evades? Your dumb if you don’t run a shortbow and that comes with 1 worthless evade too. Running with a sword that has sub par damage and a dagger just to get evades? Your doing no damage with those weapons and sword roots you in place. So no we don’t have 4 built in evades that can aid us. Stop trying to argue with everyone you come across…every time i see you replying to somthing its to start an arguement. To finish it off you say ranger is the most evade capable class? apparently you haven’t played a thief or an ele before….

Casey.9687:

are you an idiot? stun breaks? you say that like we have multiple….we have 1 stun break and that is lightening reflexes but the recharge and damage on it make it pointless to even have on your bar. 4 built in evades? Your dumb if you don’t run a shortbow and that comes with 1 worthless evade too. Running with a sword that has sub par damage and a dagger just to get evades? Your doing no damage with those weapons and sword roots you in place. So no we don’t have 4 built in evades that can aid us. Stop trying to argue with everyone you come across…every time i see you replying to somthing its to start an arguement. To finish it off you say ranger is the most evade capable class? apparently you haven’t played a thief or an ele before….

See? This guy gets it…

He understands that there is no way to reduce the CD of any of your skills. He also know that the other stun breaker we have doesn’t really count because he forgot about it.

He also seems to to be able to come up with really clever personal attacks to support his statements which, as we all know, is the best way to get your point across.

This is the kind of posting that we need to encourage in the ranger forums – hostile, poorly thought out, and full of bad info. More of this guy, less of the rest of us please!!!

Even with the reduced CD its not worth it….i’ve put 1,122 hours into my ranger and i know its pointless to run lightening reflexes and and signet of renewal for its stun break is a 60 second recharge its pointless to run signet of renewal and im not coming up with personal attacks to get my point across…..im just tired of this kid argueing with everyone….apparently you don’t read his posts….so shut the kitten up ya jackwagon

Casey.9687:

Even with the reduced CD its not worth it….i’ve put 1,122 hours into my ranger and i know its pointless to run lightening reflexes and and signet of renewal for its stun break is a 60 second recharge its pointless to run signet of renewal and im not coming up with personal attacks to get my point across…..im just tired of this kid argueing with everyone….apparently you don’t read his posts….so shut the kitten up ya jackwagon

Well, at least you maintain a consistent quality in your posts.

I’ve read posts by most of the regulars in here, and you being tired of something doesn’t really justify being an kitten but to each his or her own…

If you have played that long on your ranger, then you would know that there are multiple ways to build your ranger. One of those ways involves using stun breakers, of which there are two. Your personal opinion simply isn’t fact, and beyond that you misstated your “facts.”

Anyway, keep on being he beacon of quality and insightfulness that you clearly are. I’m sure everyone is looking forward to your next post as much as I am.

RummyTheMad.7290:

Casey.9687:

Even with the reduced CD its not worth it….i’ve put 1,122 hours into my ranger and i know its pointless to run lightening reflexes and and signet of renewal for its stun break is a 60 second recharge its pointless to run signet of renewal and im not coming up with personal attacks to get my point across…..im just tired of this kid argueing with everyone….apparently you don’t read his posts….so shut the kitten up ya jackwagon

Well, at least you maintain a consistent quality in your posts.

I’ve read posts by most of the regulars in here, and you being tired of something doesn’t really justify being an kitten but to each his or her own…

If you have played that long on your ranger, then you would know that there are multiple ways to build your ranger. One of those ways involves using stun breakers, of which there are two. Your personal opinion simply isn’t fact, and beyond that you misstated your “facts.”

Anyway, keep on being he beacon of quality and insightfulness that you clearly are. I’m sure everyone is looking forward to your next post as much as I am.

Ironically, the quality and insightfulness of the other guy’s posts completely trump yours, which are filled with nothing but patronizing, passive-agressive nonsense.

Agadar.4931:

RummyTheMad.7290:

Casey.9687:

Even with the reduced CD its not worth it….i’ve put 1,122 hours into my ranger and i know its pointless to run lightening reflexes and and signet of renewal for its stun break is a 60 second recharge its pointless to run signet of renewal and im not coming up with personal attacks to get my point across…..im just tired of this kid argueing with everyone….apparently you don’t read his posts….so shut the kitten up ya jackwagon

Well, at least you maintain a consistent quality in your posts.

I’ve read posts by most of the regulars in here, and you being tired of something doesn’t really justify being an kitten but to each his or her own…

If you have played that long on your ranger, then you would know that there are multiple ways to build your ranger. One of those ways involves using stun breakers, of which there are two. Your personal opinion simply isn’t fact, and beyond that you misstated your “facts.”

Anyway, keep on being he beacon of quality and insightfulness that you clearly are. I’m sure everyone is looking forward to your next post as much as I am.

Ironically, the quality and insightfulness of the other guy’s posts completely trump yours, which are filled with nothing but patronizing, passive-agressive nonsense.

Just the one post, but you make a good point. I guess I’m also tired of reading posts full of hyperbole and nonsense, and I reacted as I did.

I’m sorry if I offended you or Casey. I’d just like to come into the ranger forums and actually be able to have a productive discussion instead of seeing every single thread get hijacked by the can’t play crew. It got old about 6,000 posts ago.

Still nothing for rangers in today’s patch…

Leaf.3156:

Still nothing for rangers in today’s patch…

Wasn’t really expecting a patch at all today, can’t say I’m disappointed tbh.

Leaf.3156:

Still nothing for rangers in today’s patch…

Well aside from the nerf “bug fix” it sure was nothing.
Oh and the AOE heal “fix” with language that is unclear whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing, i’m leaning on bad.

Heads up people. They stealth fixed at least 1 bug.

Opening Strikes now correctly fires off your first “Hit” with any ability at any range. Tested it for the last hour with longbow in WvWvW. It is confirmed.

Check for other stealth buffs before QQing up a storm

Did they break the ground animation for our birds? When mine are landing they suddenly get a second set of wings now O_o

Good Job Jon, you guys really did a great job. I mean, FIX A BUG, wow.

Alvarez.9840:

Good Job Jon, you guys really did a great job. I mean, FIX A BUG, wow.

better than nothing. At least they are working on rangers !

im still waiting on the major quality of life improvements though, all i can say is ranger as is has little variation to it, everything is lowend sustained dmg or bleed stack, pets are unreliable dmg atm for a class that is balanced around the dmg that they are seposed to do. rangers are freaking fun to play dont get me wronge but they have very little utility atm and pets need alot of attention still, for survivability and overall performance. ive been playing my necro recently just cause i can do more then only sustained dmg on it (i can turn boons into conditions, i can turn conditions into boons, transfer conditions from allies to foes, alot of aoe attacks, etc ). i would love there to be added some depth back into ranger even if it went back to the heavy burst based on CDs again, it would at least add alittle more dynamic back into fighitng with a ranger… would be nice if the utility skills got an overhaul soon as well, the signents, shouts, spirits, and preperations could use more variation or elaberation to them, they are meh at best and still would not sway the tide of battle if u used them or not with the exception of QZ, that i can say is the only utility that can actually change a fight if used in most situations…. i just hope like you all we get some of the updates that would put more depth back into ranger, the class is probably one of the best set ups for a pet class in a game and should be something truly awesome and deadly. not ignorable on the battle field cause they are the least threatening (im mainly talking wvw there)

Criminal.5627:

im still waiting on the major quality of life improvements though, all i can say is ranger as is has little variation to it, everything is lowend sustained dmg or bleed stack, pets are unreliable dmg atm for a class that is balanced around the dmg that they are seposed to do. rangers are freaking fun to play dont get me wronge but they have very little utility atm and pets need alot of attention still, for survivability and overall performance. ive been playing my necro recently just cause i can do more then only sustained dmg on it (i can turn boons into conditions, i can turn conditions into boons, transfer conditions from allies to foes, alot of aoe attacks, etc ). i would love there to be added some depth back into ranger even if it went back to the heavy burst based on CDs again, it would at least add alittle more dynamic back into fighitng with a ranger… would be nice if the utility skills got an overhaul soon as well, the signents, shouts, spirits, and preperations could use more variation or elaberation to them, they are meh at best and still would not sway the tide of battle if u used them or not with the exception of QZ, that i can say is the only utility that can actually change a fight if used in most situations…. i just hope like you all we get some of the updates that would put more depth back into ranger, the class is probably one of the best set ups for a pet class in a game and should be something truly awesome and deadly. not ignorable on the battle field cause they are the least threatening (im mainly talking wvw there)

Id just like to add that signet of Stone when traited with Signet of the Beastmaster in Marksmanship tree is pretty usefull too.

Drago.1634:

Criminal.5627:

im still waiting on the major quality of life improvements though, all i can say is ranger as is has little variation to it, everything is lowend sustained dmg or bleed stack, pets are unreliable dmg atm for a class that is balanced around the dmg that they are seposed to do. rangers are freaking fun to play dont get me wronge but they have very little utility atm and pets need alot of attention still, for survivability and overall performance. ive been playing my necro recently just cause i can do more then only sustained dmg on it (i can turn boons into conditions, i can turn conditions into boons, transfer conditions from allies to foes, alot of aoe attacks, etc ). i would love there to be added some depth back into ranger even if it went back to the heavy burst based on CDs again, it would at least add alittle more dynamic back into fighitng with a ranger… would be nice if the utility skills got an overhaul soon as well, the signents, shouts, spirits, and preperations could use more variation or elaberation to them, they are meh at best and still would not sway the tide of battle if u used them or not with the exception of QZ, that i can say is the only utility that can actually change a fight if used in most situations…. i just hope like you all we get some of the updates that would put more depth back into ranger, the class is probably one of the best set ups for a pet class in a game and should be something truly awesome and deadly. not ignorable on the battle field cause they are the least threatening (im mainly talking wvw there)

Id just like to add that signet of Stone when traited with Signet of the Beastmaster in Marksmanship tree is pretty usefull too.

only thing about it is you need to be 30 points in for it to work, and you only gain half the effect of beastmaster really, pets will usually only get one hit or less off in the time it is up cause pets cant hit moving targets, ill give u signent of stone is very useful and it has saved me a butt load of times in the past, but the signent is useless unless you are 30 points in marks

mamourrir.9641:

Alvarez.9840:

Good Job Jon, you guys really did a great job. I mean, FIX A BUG, wow.

better than nothing. At least they are working on rangers !

Yeah, you are right. This is LITERALLY the least that they could do and have the Ranger listed in the patch notes.

Guys… there will be no Ranger miracle patch… it never happened in any mmo before and it never will happen… little tweaks here and there… thats it…

So a few buffs here a few nerfs there…
If you are not happy with the ranger now – make another character or stop playing…

The miracle Ranger patch… it is not coming…

Mardermann.7468:

Guys… there will be no Ranger miracle patch… it never happened in any mmo before and it never will happen… little tweaks here and there… thats it…

So a few buffs here a few nerfs there…
If you are not happy with the ranger now – make another character or stop playing…

The miracle Ranger patch… it is not coming…

I said the same thing a ton of pages back… and I hope we are wrong !

I feel your pain guys. I have a Ranger and a Mesmer, so you can imagine how it feels to be a ‘master-of-none’ Ranger and a ‘nerfed-till-broken’ Mesmer

Aveneo.2068:

I feel your pain guys. I have a Ranger and a Mesmer, so you can imagine how it feels to be a ‘master-of-none’ Ranger and a ‘nerfed-till-broken’ Mesmer

I know that feel.

We all should have gone Warrior and Theif.

I’m still wondering how that double of the same trap thing was a nerf. I never even heard of that bug until after it was patched, nor had I seen it before it was patched.

mamourrir.9641:

Alvarez.9840:

Good Job Jon, you guys really did a great job. I mean, FIX A BUG, wow.

better than nothing. At least they are working on rangers !

How do you know this? increased underwater damage was probably there so rangers didn’t throw a bigger tanty then they have before.

I wish we knew what the devs were working on.

Poof and i appear in any other forum other than this lack luster class forum.

I didn’t read this entire thread yet, but I would just like to drop a couple suggestions. Maybe they are impossible but it is my wish list as an sbow/lbow ranger.

I would love to have the abillity to completely stow pet and boost bow damage. Obviously the pets are a huge part of our class, but certainly we can agree that as a tool they were primarily given to the archetypical bow class to keep pve mobs at range while he shot from a distance. This isn’t as neccessary in WvW or PvP. The same way switching pets now is a mini game so as well can be choosing when to use the pet, and when to not.

Point Blank (Longbow 4) really needs to be instant. I believe the speed of combat in WvW makes using that shot more for trolling people from the back of the fight, rather than using it to push an agressive attacker away and get some range, which is the reason I believe it was created.

I think Piercing Arrows needs to be automatic and not a trait. In WvW especially the amount of obstructions are so thick that if you don’t have this skill you are significantly kittening yourself. This might be a solution to trying to fix the obstruction issue in the first place.

Pets…I don’t know if its a bug or intended, but can we please save our pet names? Seeing juvenile this and that everywhere hurts the game I think.

Anyways, thanks!

Personally, since they WILL NOT improve the Ranger Class, they should allow us(The Ranger Community) to choose another class and put all progress on that new class. Thanks JP, for the lies.
Here’s a thought for Anet. Why not wipe out the Ranger class as a whole? It seems that this Class is far more complex than your staff is able to handle.
Food for thought~

Rhino.9607:

Personally, since they WILL NOT improve the Ranger Class, they should allow us(The Ranger Community) to choose another class and put all progress on that new class. Thanks JP, for the lies.
Here’s a thought for Anet. Why not wipe out the Ranger class as a whole? It seems that this Class is far more complex than your staff is able to handle.
Food for thought~

Do you realize how nonconstructive this post is? Obviously they are not going to erase the ranger class, nor can I imagine that most people who have rangers want their character erased (myself included). Am I frustrated with the lack of ranger fixes? Sure, you bet.. especially the pet mechanic. But this literally serves no purpose.

Of course they will attempt to fix the ranger class, and in general, continue to balance classes. What I think a lot of rangers fail to realize, while rangers may not be getting the updates we’d all like to see happen.. a lot of other classes have been nerfed, which is just as effective in terms of balancing the game.

naediian understand how it works. There are 2 ways to balance the classes…nerf the stronger ones to take them down to the level of the weak ones, or buff the weak ones to take them up to the power of the strong ones.

I know, but the true still remains that they have no real plans on fixing our broken class. Not sure how you can think nerfing is an effective way of Class balancing but that’s totally wrong, this Class is far more complex than Anet staff is able to handle. Facts are Facts, just look at their other MMO’s they have or are hosting with Ranger classes. It’s the same here as it is on those other MMO’s

Exactly, they have stated numerous times how they approach class balance. They do not, and will not apply large band-aids to temporary issues. They are looking at the big picture, and while this takes more time.. I for one appreciate this approach.

Auberon.4653:

Spirits are absolutely useless, do not even lern them. Have you seen other classes which have skills that works with 35% chance, or if be traited max 50%? Say another way: have you seen DaggerStorm of Thief that works 50/50? Or Illusions of mesmer that can be summoned with 50% on cast? Or guardian buffs ally with chance 35%? No? But why rangers have such stuped skills? )

It may be going to an extreme end, but rolling a guardian (just hit 17) I’ve been floored at the scope of its viability, especially with support. My 80 ranger feels totally outclassed before another hits 20. Keep in mind this barely touches traits. Ouch.

NaturalPortman.9562:

I never understood why people expect every single class to be on par with eachother, that would make the game boring and lackluster.

Verbatim was that all classes were to be OP, which theoretically creates a climate where every profession can do things very well (though inherently some will excel in specific areas) and go about them in different ways. What we have now is a ranger that, while technically viable, fails to meet basic standards and is held back by its own mechanics (pet, spirits, etc.). The pet even holds utility hostage (signets, shouts); it really is dead weight on the profession’s back and needs to be completely overhauled if not entirely reworked, and at this point I’m willing to take major concessions to put quality on the table.

Rhino.9607:

I know, but the true still remains that they have no real plans on fixing our broken class. Not sure how you can think nerfing is an effective way of Class balancing but that’s totally wrong, this Class is far more complex than Anet staff is able to handle. Facts are Facts, just look at their other MMO’s they have or are hosting with Ranger classes. It’s the same here as it is on those other MMO’s

I’m no fanboy, and I’ve “been around the block” in terms of MMO’s. Pet’s in most MMO’s are usually filled with bugs, that I can agree with. If you’re suggesting they should eliminate the pet mechanic, or make it play a less significant role, I could maybe get on that wagon. But saying they should erase the class all together or calling them incompetent and incapable, is well.. nonconstructive.

I always thought the Warhammer Swordmaster class was a good example of a class with pet potential. More damage with no pet out, making the pet an optional mechanic.

Mardermann.7468:

Guys… there will be no Ranger miracle patch… it never happened in any mmo before and it never will happen… little tweaks here and there… thats it…

So a few buffs here a few nerfs there…
If you are not happy with the ranger now – make another character or stop playing…

The miracle Ranger patch… it is not coming…

there were several ‘miracle’ patches in other mmorpg’s, if by ‘miracle patch’ you mean a patch that completely overhauled broken mechanics and made a class viable.

have we already forgotton bc druids, hunters and shadow priests? perhaps then cata hunters having moved from mana to an energy system? those sure seem like a ‘miracle’ patch to me.

there is precedent, and this game can not be taken seriously by the major league gaming circuits until it is taken care of. the circuits don’t abide by rock-paper-scissors mmorpg arenas which is why wow was almost entirely dropped. at the same time nobody is going to take the game seriously if an 8 man warrior team is just steam rolling another 8 man warrior team because meta-wise, that’s all that works properly here.

Mardermann.7468:

Guys… there will be no Ranger miracle patch… it never happened in any mmo before and it never will happen… little tweaks here and there… thats it…

they completely overhauled the dervish in guild wars nightfall, nearly every skill was changed in 1 patch, so they do do it.

I wonder if he no longer reads the Ranger Forums because he is afraid to show his face to us after his false promises.

Welswift.9813:

I wonder if he no longer reads the Ranger Forums because he is afraid to show his face to us after his false promises.

Or he’s actually busy doing, I don’t know…coding on a test server to actually see if he can fix the problems? In other words, he may be pulling “less talk, more action”. Which would be very nice. But don’t expect any real responses until the next update patch on the 14th.

It still seems we have left in the dark and also we are just hoping for changes on the 14th. Does anyone know for sure that the ranger will get some major changes on the 14th?

RyuDragnier.9476:

Welswift.9813:

I wonder if he no longer reads the Ranger Forums because he is afraid to show his face to us after his false promises.

Or he’s actually busy doing, I don’t know…coding on a test server to actually see if he can fix the problems? In other words, he may be pulling “less talk, more action”. Which would be very nice. But don’t expect any real responses until the next update patch on the 14th.

rangers, necros and now mesmers are pretty much equally broken in pve atm, with the caveat that at last necros and mesmers have a bit more utility options.

Dixa.6017:

there is precedent, and this game can not be taken seriously by the major league gaming circuits until it is taken care of. the circuits don’t abide by rock-paper-scissors mmorpg arenas which is why wow was almost entirely dropped. at the same time nobody is going to take the game seriously if an 8 man warrior team is just steam rolling another 8 man warrior team because meta-wise, that’s all that works properly here.

Maybe there’s precedent for change in other games, but I’ve stuck around for ~7 years with this series… game-changers (profession-based) came, but few and not for the better. Some become OP while others were left to rot. To the last day I kept a line dropped on the official wiki, years after the last expansion and after many free content updates, the ranger update never came.

There were two big reasons for this. First, the difference in GW was that the ranger was actually good in PvP, though terribly antiquated in PvE. Secondly, what truly masked PvE skill-balancing were a secondary profession and PvE-only skills (if you’re not familiar, imagine if the Orders taught skills, and any class could slot them). The bar itself was so open it allowed for all kinds of nutty builds; now the profession needs to pull its full weight, it cannot outsource for its lack of viability. Improving one profession does not create opportunities for others.

I honestly thought that the removal of secondaries and having distinction (races) and a compact and organized skill bar would make for much more streamlined balance corrections. As it seems I was woefully mistaken, I’d at least like to hear transparency from the folks working on skill-balancing. What do they see as issues? Which solutions have they tried? What are their goals? What is preventing them from reaching them? What is the state of the ranger and where do they want it to be?

I don’t need a timeline or promises, I’d just like to know what the devs think of today’s ranger and, if anything, where are they going with it?

I was in WvW yesterday and near our spawn ran into 5-6 players chasing a thief. I got involved and the thief turned around. I died 3 times and came back and they got a couple adds but their numbers stayed around 4-5 until the last push. “We” ultimately won the fight. Told the thief, who didn’t die once, I didn’t do much and his response was and I am paraphrasing: You kept them entertained, soaked up their damage, and provided a little damage in return. So you see we are the pet class, just for other players.

This is the exact reason I don’t care for games that don’t charge a monthly fee. You can cry and whine about any class not getting what they NEED, but when the company isn’t making any money aside from client sales and gem sales, you have nothing to “hold over their heads”. It sucks. At least when there is a monthly fee, and enough people threaten to, or actually do leave, you are at least putting a very minimal dent in their pocket. I have grown tired of waiting for rangers to get any sort of love. I highly doubt I will be coming back at all. By the time they fix anything, I will need to relearn how to play my character anyhow. Not worth my effort for something that Anet obviously doesn’t care about.

Would it be something to simply remove the F2 and give us something similar to the Warrior’s Adrenaline attack?

Call it Expertise or Focus or Concentration where it builds up a powerful attack every x seconds. For the Longbow it could be a ‘Called Shot’ or ‘Seeker Arrow’ where we shoot one powerful (unblockable?) arrow imbued by nature that slams into the target, dealing a lot of damage and applying Poison or something. Other weapons could then have their own ‘special’.

:)

To me something like that would work out a lot better than having pets that don’t respond when commanded to use their special ability (which are often pretty pitiful anyway).

EvilDeath.6718:

It still seems we have left in the dark and also we are just hoping for changes on the 14th. Does anyone know for sure that the ranger will get some major changes on the 14th?

No, all that was said was their intention to look into a Mesmer bug dealing with phantasms. We just assume (very dangerous) that there will be other fixed to all the classes as well.

Well if we speak in numbers.A broken trait took 3 months to be fixed…so find out how many traits are broken,add 3 months on each so i geuss we have a responce.But i repeat these are just cold numbers..

JonPeters.5630:

Agreed. Signet of the hunt needs to and will go to 25%.

Holy kitten!

playing wow till its fixed, not waisting any more time on a broken character, thats been almost 3 months waiting to be fix… Its this slow progress that Bliz> ArenaNet