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This also means they have worked on the class the longest. Not to be too hopeful.

Daniel Handler.4816:

This also means they have worked on the class the longest. Not to be too hopeful.

Well it doesn’t actually. The date of the reveal doesn’t mean they started working on it any earlier than the others. They’ve probably been working on all classes the same amount of time.

The difference is that ranger will receive the least player feedback, and that is not a good thing.

Daniel Handler.4816:

This also means they have worked on the class the longest. Not to be too hopeful.

Just because they’ve revealed the other elite specs doesn’t mean they’re finished or that they’ve stopped working on them.

All this means is the druid (and the forge) will get the least amount of testing, since they will only be playable in one beta event.

Quarktastic.1027:

Daniel Handler.4816:

This also means they have worked on the class the longest. Not to be too hopeful.

Just because they’ve revealed the other elite specs doesn’t mean they’re finished or that they’ve stopped working on them.

All this means is the druid (and the forge) will get the least amount of testing, since they will only be playable in one beta event.

With 42 pets. I am hoping this means they are entirely sure what they are changing works. You could say more effort went into druid than into chronomancer.

Sadly, I’m not surprised at all about the druid being last. Ignoring the ranger seems to be a standard practice in this game. I’m truly sorry about this turn of events. Just do yourselves a favor and main another profession.

Fluffball.8307:

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Ranger, on the other hand, is the only profession that wasn’t in WTS.

This just blows my mind every time I think about it.

cough the dankening with Eurantien cough

Mesmer was the last class to be revealed before the core game release. It was the franchise’s most unique class so it made sense to save it for the last reveal for impact.

Druid has been left till last because let’s face it, no other spec has the same relevance to the Maguuma Jungle theme of the expansion. The last reveal is not an afterthought, it’s usually something special to push up interest before release, like the Mesmer was.

You know you guys are not the only ones thieves seem to get the crappy end of the stick as well.

livlaender.8790:

Fluffball.8307:

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Ranger, on the other hand, is the only profession that wasn’t in WTS.

This just blows my mind every time I think about it.

cough the dankening with Eurantien cough

They weren’t in the last WTS. There have been tons of rangers in the past, but not anymore.

Also I don’t know much about the team, but based on his posts, I think Eura doesn’t play ranger with them anymore?

I am actually pretty relieved. They are doing reveals again, which means more than likely one week will be druid. I was worried we’d have to wait another week or two for reveals to begin again.

Ryou.2398:

You know you guys are not the only ones thieves seem to get the crappy end of the stick as well.

My mains are ranger and thief… I’m kind of… sad…

Knox.8462:

Mesmer was the last class to be revealed before the core game release. It was the franchise’s most unique class so it made sense to save it for the last reveal for impact.

Druid has been left till last because let’s face it, no other spec has the same relevance to the Maguuma Jungle theme of the expansion. The last reveal is not an afterthought, it’s usually something special to push up interest before release, like the Mesmer was.

Actually, I believe they had been planning to release druid earlier, but had to go through more iterations and make more changes to the initial design than with other specializations. Unless I’m mistaken, something similar happened with forge as well.

Dionosio.5168:

Ryou.2398:

You know you guys are not the only ones thieves seem to get the crappy end of the stick as well.

My mains are ranger and thief… I’m kind of… sad…

Im sorry man.

Dionosio.5168:

My mains are ranger and thief… I’m kind of… sad…

These feels…I know them well, my mains are these two as well :/ I just wanted to use my stupid legendary and those are the only two professions that can use it.

Hoping Forge is neat so I can get back on my Engineer for a bit to forget about that Daredevil junk /sigh

I must say, I wondered if they were making rangers last because they were going to include some tweaks to the core ranger as well. One can hope, right?

Druid also has the best name out of the Especs, so it’s being saved for last

Druid also has the best name out of the Especs…

Agreed.

….maybe second only to chronomancer, because that’s a dang classy way to say
‘time mage’.

Don’t you also get all jittery in anticipation of our own dev post just for the Ranger?

Wuselknusel.4082:

Don’t you also get all jittery in anticipation of our own dev post just for the Ranger?

….nope. I’m preparing for disappointment so that way I’ll be satisfied with the Druid reveal no matter what!

The Druid wont be my cup of tea anyways, I am looking for more damage.
What would really excite me would be changes to the base class.

I’m also looking forward to the new profession mechanic the Druid gets, tho I’m doubtful.
All former elite specializations got their mechanic upgraded, not completely overhauled.
So if the Ranger will trade the pets for aspects, we would play the only profession which got it’s mechanic replaced. I would find that a desultory change, because it means that Anet has capitulated trying to fix the pets and because it could very well mean that our mechainc is undertuned, because it is not one-upping an already exsisting mechanic.

However, if ANet just slaps new mechanics onto the pet, then I would not be happy either, because it would not fix all the exsisting problems the pet has. It would just inherit all the flaws the pet still has.

Wuselknusel.4082:

The Druid wont be my cup of tea anyways, I am looking for more damage.

What leads you to believe that a Druid has to be support oriented? What makes you believe an offensive based Druid isn’t feasible?

I still have my fingers crossed that it -will- be damage focused. There’s already a severe abundance of support in this game as is, and now the Herald is bringing even MORE. I’d like to believe that the devs in charge of Druid know this and won’t just hash on more of the same, resulting in something kitten.

Wuselknusel.4082:

Don’t you also get all jittery in anticipation of our own dev post just for the Ranger?

Oh yes, I’m all sorts of excited for a dev to hype train the ever loving kitten out of Druid….
…..and then we get Aquaman Patch: Druid Edition.

This is my realistic expectation of druid.

Even if the druid is more support oriented you’ll still be able to build one offensively. Druid can still equip the longbow and take points in Marksmanship and Skirmishing. And if druid is a support line it probably has traits that improve the druid’s survivability or access to certain boons, which you need in damage oriented builds anyway.

LB/Staff will definitely be a thing, if the Druid line has some condi removal and or Resistance, then DR/NM/BM will be awesome for PvP.

Not only will it be last, but the POI will be the shortest one. And the devs will rush it all the while joking about bear bows and talking random nonsense.

Chokolata.1870:

Not only will it be last, but the POI will be the shortest one. And the devs will rush it all the while joking about bear bows and talking random nonsense.

Uh uh ahh, Bear Staff.

I think the reason is because we learned our specialization first.. When they announced specialization they mentioned the Druid for Ranger and they mentioned that we will wield staff.
So thats why i think they left Druid last.

Still yes, its gonna be hilarious. We will have the least time to test it,it will be full of bugs and as always we will get some bugged mechanic, tied with some other mechanic from the game ( cause its ready ) which is gonna be very hard to rework it so it will remain bugged

Morfedel.4165:

I must say, I wondered if they were making rangers last because they were going to include some tweaks to the core ranger as well. One can hope, right?

Maybe… core Necro changes were happening with the Reaper, even now, axe and scepter are having tweaks done. Could have some core Ranger tweaks here and there. There’s enough threads between now and then in which Ireno could have obtained a fair amount of notes.

No kitten. I’ve been calling it for months now.

Honestly? It’s good that it’ll receive less player feedback.
… anet doesn’t listen to it anyway, not when it’s about ranger.
You know what they gonna say when someone will point out that the mechanics are still broken as hell?

I just want to clarify for good that X is currently working as intended… It has a very specific play style, and I would like it to remain.
(specific playstyle meaning a broken mess)

ppl the best comes last

Gurni.1925:

ppl the best comes last

Wish I coiuld have your optimism

DoogySnowStalker.2069:

Gurni.1925:

ppl the best comes last

Wish I coiuld have your optimism

They certainly would not save the worst for last, worst things go in the middle. So they don’t get noticed.

Saving Druid for last was probably intended all along, since it is plant magic based and mechanically the biggest change. Which probably also means that it needed the longest time to develop. Let’s just hope it is polished more than we are expecting.

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

cafard.8953:

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

This. It is nice to know what is going to happen with the class, but the whole “we are just getting one BWE” thing doesn’t make sense. Even if engi elite spec gets revealed first, both get the same testing time.

And NO, let double dagger ranger be a thing with some plant themed venoms! No rifle, it will just fear the pets.

.__.

cafard.8953:

…get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

Never.

2h spear Ranger with stances.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

cafard.8953:

…get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

Never.

2h spear Ranger with stances.

Lancer hype, 2017

DoogySnowStalker.2069:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

cafard.8953:

…get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

Never.

2h spear Ranger with stances.

Lancer hype, 2017

+1

Kodama.6453:

cafard.8953:

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

This. It is nice to know what is going to happen with the class, but the whole “we are just getting one BWE” thing doesn’t make sense. Even if engi elite spec gets revealed first, both get the same testing time.

And NO, let double dagger ranger be a thing with some plant themed venoms! No rifle, it will just fear the pets.

.__.

I have a dog, I sport a mustache and i’m a hunter. I need a rifle! QQ

cafard.8953:

Kodama.6453:

cafard.8953:

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

This. It is nice to know what is going to happen with the class, but the whole “we are just getting one BWE” thing doesn’t make sense. Even if engi elite spec gets revealed first, both get the same testing time.

And NO, let double dagger ranger be a thing with some plant themed venoms! No rifle, it will just fear the pets.

.__.

I have a dog, I sport a mustache and i’m a hunter. I need a rifle! QQ

And a place for my stuffed animals and trophies! GIVE US HOUSING NOW (only for rangers)

So we’ve just seen the third BWE changes for other classes, how many do we get to test for Ranger then…?

Dionosio.5168:

cafard.8953:

Kodama.6453:

cafard.8953:

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

This. It is nice to know what is going to happen with the class, but the whole “we are just getting one BWE” thing doesn’t make sense. Even if engi elite spec gets revealed first, both get the same testing time.

And NO, let double dagger ranger be a thing with some plant themed venoms! No rifle, it will just fear the pets.

.__.

I have a dog, I sport a mustache and i’m a hunter. I need a rifle! QQ

And a place for my stuffed animals and trophies! GIVE US HOUSING NOW (only for rangers)

In my arms fellow hunter! Let’s put the spirits back to their rightful place: in an expensive glass, to be sipped by the fireplace while discussing how we bravely pwned that boar 10 vs 1!

cafard.8953:

Dionosio.5168:

cafard.8953:

Kodama.6453:

cafard.8953:

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

This. It is nice to know what is going to happen with the class, but the whole “we are just getting one BWE” thing doesn’t make sense. Even if engi elite spec gets revealed first, both get the same testing time.

And NO, let double dagger ranger be a thing with some plant themed venoms! No rifle, it will just fear the pets.

.__.

I have a dog, I sport a mustache and i’m a hunter. I need a rifle! QQ

And a place for my stuffed animals and trophies! GIVE US HOUSING NOW (only for rangers)

In my arms fellow hunter! Let’s put the spirits back to their rightful place: in an expensive glass, to be sipped by the fireplace while discussing how we bravely pwned that boar 10 vs 1!

Pfft, real hunters use spears.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

cafard.8953:

Dionosio.5168:

cafard.8953:

Kodama.6453:

cafard.8953:

Oh come on, did it matter much at that point? Engie/Ranger got the bad luck of being in the 1 BWE only and that’s it. Which one gets revealed first is irrelevant.

Anyway. Let’s get this out of the way asap and get some hype going for the next expansion and the rifle ranger spec. \o/

This. It is nice to know what is going to happen with the class, but the whole “we are just getting one BWE” thing doesn’t make sense. Even if engi elite spec gets revealed first, both get the same testing time.

And NO, let double dagger ranger be a thing with some plant themed venoms! No rifle, it will just fear the pets.

.__.

I have a dog, I sport a mustache and i’m a hunter. I need a rifle! QQ

And a place for my stuffed animals and trophies! GIVE US HOUSING NOW (only for rangers)

In my arms fellow hunter! Let’s put the spirits back to their rightful place: in an expensive glass, to be sipped by the fireplace while discussing how we bravely pwned that boar 10 vs 1!

Pfft, real hunters use spears.

I don’t want to end up like King Baratheon

Wuselknusel.4082:

The Druid wont be my cup of tea anyways, I am looking for more damage.

But what if Druid gets a trait that casts Entangle on hit (centered on target) with a 60s cooldown? It would go well with the vine theme of the Druid.

So more control could also mean more damage.

as long as druid staff isnt like necro staff its worth being last, no wells please, people think its gonna be all support but the trailer clearly shows a damage attack like a beam of vines, so dont expect it to be fully support.

maybe wel have mind control effects :P maybe our special ability will have a short control of natures creatures :P turn mordrem against each other, thats what m hoping anyways haha

UKADAM.3910:

as long as druid staff isnt like necro staff its worth being last, no wells please, people think its gonna be all support but the trailer clearly shows a damage attack like a beam of vines, so dont expect it to be fully support.

maybe wel have mind control effects :P maybe our special ability will have a short control of natures creatures :P turn mordrem against each other, thats what m hoping anyways haha

Just because the AA is doing damage doesn’t mean the weapon isn’t support/healing centered. There is only one AA in game which doesn’t do damage (looking at you, buff needing med kit ô.o). I still think the spec is about healing.

Utility skills seem to be glyphes, a datamined trait sais so. But I don’t know why you got the idea of mind control skills. It doesn’t fit the druid theme, just if you are encountered by nature creatures, but what if you are fighting machines? Makes no sense. IF someone gets mind control, it should be the mesmer. ^^

There is no way that video is of the staff auto-attack. The ranger was rooted in place and it had like a 3 second cast time.

Holland.9351:

There is no way that video is of the staff auto-attack. The ranger was rooted in place and it had like a 3 second cast time.

I never said it will be a good AA.

Joking aside, even if it isn’t the AA, but another (maybe control related) skill, that doesn’t mean anything. It is just 1 skill out of 5, that’s nothing that will tell us the weapon is not for support.

Holland.9351:

There is no way that video is of the staff auto-attack. The ranger was rooted in place and it had like a 3 second cast time.

That sounds about right to me.