Guild Wars 2

Just wanted to say ty for demanding changes and buffs that brought us to the current everyone-hates-druid environment. Without you the nerfs to celestial avatar would not have been made possible.

Any new druids wondering how we got here,
Astral Force used to rapidly decay out of combat,
Exiting Celestial Avatar Form reset all unspent Astral Force,
Regeneration didn’t count towards Astral Force Generation

The tones of nearly every druid at the time was,
Impossible to generate astral force,
Pigeonholed into staff/trolls unguent,
If you said anything positive about druid you got people trash talking you.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Astral-Force-Is-Not-a-Failure/first

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/How-To-Astral-Force-Generation/first#post5679369

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/People-s-Unrealistic-Vision-of-AFG-CF-Rework/first#post5783157

3 threads I made knowing what was going to happen and trying to avoid the destruction of the wonderful thing Celestial Avatar and Druid as a whole were/are.

-You could generate astral force, just nobody wanted to think to do it
-Because of the high demand for buffs/improvements to druid, ranger got neglected pretty hard. Thankfully shout revamp did come around but that only lead to new problems as its aoe regen spam.
-With 3 changes in short order, no more OOC decay, 50% savings on CAF exit and regeneration contribution to Astral Force Generation, people no longer had to think about when to use CAF or even how to make it available. It is now merely capped by a 10sec cooldown with maybe a +5sec on occasion.

They complained and complained and gunned down anyhow who “white-knighted” druid because they wanted or maybe couldn’t foresee the thing that would become a:

instant activation
stun break
13 condition removal
3sec AoE stealth
3sec AoE super speed
all on a nice clean 10second cooldown.

Sadly these nerfs wont even target the current celestial bunker druid as they will still have their reset button every 10sec with probably the same level of healing. Or maybe they nerf other celestial avatar related things aswell, nothing off the table I suppose.

So yay longstanding forum rangers and druids! You definitely know whats good for the class!

Because it was so much fun and was absolutely perfect not being able to even ENTER avatar even ONCE as a full zerker or full condi druid back when HoT launched.

You killed something right before that crappy bar managed to fill after like 1-2 minutes, only to see it gone once you were out of combat…. I literally couldn’t even check what skills avatar had.

Try using something else than staff and you won’t have your “reset button” every 10 seconds.

However I have to say that dolyak rune bonus is pretty stupid and shouldn’t work with CF generation.

PeterPrime.1730:

Because it was so much fun and was absolutely perfect not being able to even ENTER avatar even ONCE as a full zerker or full condi druid back when HoT launched.

You killed something right before that crappy bar managed to fill after like 1-2 minutes, only to see it gone once you were out of combat…. I literally couldn’t even check what skills avatar had.

Try using something else than staff and you won’t have your “reset button” every 10 seconds.

However I have to say that dolyak rune bonus is pretty stupid and shouldn’t work with CF generation.

Ya CAF gate has either been too hard or too soft. There really has never been a middle ground besides maybe in beta sadly.

Yes, I agree.

Right now it’s far too rewarding and far too overtuned with the stunbreak and full condi cleanse.

I believe the middle ground could only be achieved if they altered the CF generation with damage/condi and nerfed the generation through healing….Or I don’t know.

I’m just sick of the staff camping…and everywhere I go I see that. But this is an issue with most other classes (elites) as well, everything’s just too rewarding.

Part of the problem has always been on HOW they setup AFG. Basing it around dmg and healing tics was just moronic.

Problem goes both ways. Stems from a flawed design and odd choices on top with player suggestions and implementing them.

Celestial Being has it’s own flaws, but what could anyone expect? It boiled down to damage and healing, without any scaling to give it a push/pull on flexibility and impact on the stats someone chose.

We had astral force generation on regeneration but also had other heal-over-time aspects such as Signet of the Wild, Natural Regeneration, Dolyak runes, and heath per second food count.

If anything, the majority of the issues lies with the developers’ choices. Because, in the end, regardless of what people suggest: Anet implements the changes how they see fit.

I honestly forgot how useless CA was. I remember making a post after one of the preview weekends saying I would never use druid over ranger. Glad that got sorted out.