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Posted by: Ragnar.4257

Ragnar.4257

EDIT:
It’s nice that people have re-discovered this thread.

I should just add that this video was made nearly a year ago, and since the changes to traits this build is no longer viable. Unfortunately you are now forced to choose between Trapper’s Expertise and bleed-on-crit, choose between Empathic Bond and Survival cooldown reduction, can no longer take cooldown reduction on both longbow and shortbow, and can no longer use frost-trap to escape into stealth as it now reveals you.

It’s a shame, but cookie-cutter is apparently all we’re allowed any more.


People said it couldn’t be done and that double-bows was a scrub build only played by newbies.

Well, dis-proving the nay-sayers.

pewpewpewpewpew

Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.


Current version of the build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATVjEqUva7KusQ1ag8gaVA0+IS4fg9GcCtQJbIK-TVDFABspJoR1AC4IAg9+D+pEkSVOA4BAIwkittenlfOqCSa6AcRVAlPEAkC4ulRA-w

Aiming for full celestial, but I had some carrion/rabid pieces lying around, and celestial isn’t so easy to get.

I mix the traits up a bit, so it isn’t always the same. For instance, against a hammer warrior, switch out Oakheart Salve for Shared Anguish. Against a d/p thief, switch out Empathic Bond for Barkskin. Against a necro, switch out Troll Unguent for Healing Spring. Against any thief, take Sic’ Em if at all possible.

I’ve been playing and tweaking this build for about 2 months now, and in that time I’ve only come across 2 players who I couldn’t defeat no matter what adjustments I made, and both of them were celestial d/d eles.

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

I very VERY rarely watch a 15 minute video till the end.

I watched this till the end.

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Posted by: Dragon.8762

Dragon.8762

double bow trapper ranger? Whats your build?

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Posted by: atheria.2837

atheria.2837

People said it couldn’t be done and that double-bows was a scrub build only played by newbies.

Well, dis-proving the nay-sayers.

pewpewpewpewpew

Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.

Tell me you put a link to the FULL build in there…. (crossing fingers)

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

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I cant believe I watched the whole thing…Well done

I was trying to guess the build since u did not post it

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVTjEqUva7KusQ1ag+ga5CEAN/hAm9E8BlQJbYJ-TFSFABAcJAue/h+UCOp6PBcEAqS5He6CS+BAQKAIWWB-w

any guesses?

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

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Nice fight. However the reason why ranger doesn’t use double bows in wvw is not because it’s weak, but because of how the nature of WvW works. More often you’ll face more than 1 person, that you have to run or pull your distance. Well, your trapper rune kinda solve this problem, so maybe it’s a good call to use this. I may consider building one someday.

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Posted by: Toxsa.2701

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Also I find the way you fight is mostly reliant on SB condition burst, and LB is just a distraction weapon for more stealth, pushback, and cripple. Maybe another weapon will fit even better than LB?

I also have a feeling this build will be even stronger as a pure condition build, but then classes like shadow art thief and diamond skin may be problematic without any physical damage.

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Posted by: borya.2964

borya.2964

I would suggest you to say that it’s a vid in the topic title if you can.

Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.

Matter of taste, but it’s a nice vid with good fights.

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Posted by: Kolisch.4691

Kolisch.4691

I cant believe I watched the whole thing…Well done

I was trying to guess the build since u did not post it

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVTjEqUva7KusQ1ag+ga5CEAN/hAm9E8BlQJbYJ-TFSFABAcJAue/h+UCOp6PBcEAqS5He6CS+BAQKAIWWB-w

any guesses?

Nope, it’s x661x with 1 point I’m not sure but think its 06620 because I can’t see the minor trait going off in marksmanship or beastmastery. He also didn’t get stunned after a Bulls charge hit him so it’s a shared anguish in the WS line. Could know he didn’t spend any points in Marksmanship because no opening strike. What traits with these numbers not that hard to figure out too. Armor/Trinkets Celestial mostly because of HP, crit rate, toughness/tankyness (I have full ascended Cele too, quite similar) with bow zerker with fire/air sigil (could see the combat log), Shortbow maybe Rampagers/could also be zerkers with 1 torment sigil, the other not sure. He might have a few odd parts here and there but that’s the gist of it. Some fights emphatic bond didn’t go off, might have swapped Bark Skin/Emphatic bond out, but never see effects of Poison Master.

Also I find the way you fight is mostly reliant on SB condition burst, and LB is just a distraction weapon for more stealth, pushback, and cripple. Maybe another weapon will fit even better than LB?

If you look at the combat log when he uses Longbow you might think twice before saying that.

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

This seems more likely.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVTjEqUva7KusQ1aADBpdrTlYHoxEXFLZDLB-TVCFABop+TAXAAs3fwPlgAcIAE4IAYlyv80Fo8DAgUAQM0C-w

Because of the points made above. He doesn’t proc Oakheart Salve so thats not in there.. does have Wilderness Knowledge.. does have at least the Minor Adept NM line so presumably has the Major Adept as well, but since I can’t obviously see any of them at work it’s most like to be Strength of Spirit. It’s a logical choice anyway since Celestial does lack in power, so what I do when running my celestial trap build is take Strength of Spirit and power food to help compensate.

Anyway.. I will be off to try this out now. I run nearly an identicle build already, just with Traveler Runes and S/D instead of LB. But otherwise, identicle. Try keen to try this

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

shadowpass.4236

OP don’t post your build yet. Give me a little bit of time to figure it out haha

I was a power ranger before it was cool.
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Posted by: Ragnar.4257

Ragnar.4257

Updating original post with build.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

Oh good lord, get Trapper’s Expertise already! You waste so much superspeed and stealth.

And don’t place both traps at the same time. Rotate cooldowns and you won’t need celestials, just carrion.

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

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Is this what you are using? I tried to match it the best I could, including healing ticks and health.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATVjEq0ya7K2rQ1aADhqdL8ulA7AoBmAX7QJbIK-TViFABWv/AfKBlU9nePEAA8AAoS53d6CE4CAg8RAIAACwO3Z6cnBG6Q/5P/5P7oD9n/8n/sUAgNsC-w

I checked boon durations, sigil procs, cooldowns…

I saw a fire/blood on longbow I believe. 325 healing came from the blood sigil.

Torment + Hobbling/Malice on shortbow for 5 second cripples

I couldn’t match your health exactly though. It was 915 healing ticks with TU and 21233 health.

OP changed the build though a few times during the video. I saw Oakheart Salve sometimes, and Shared Anguish other times. I also noticed that OP had Opening Strike on some fights, but not others.

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Posted by: Ragnar.4257

Ragnar.4257

Oh good lord, get Trapper’s Expertise already! You waste so much superspeed and stealth.

NO.

The solution to trap-stealth getting wasted is for me to improve my game-play, not to change the build.

It is not possible to waste superspeed.

I’ll admit I’m not a 100% perfect player, and occasionally I make a bad choice, but Quick-Draw still adds far more to the build than Trapper’s Expertise.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

nagymbear.5280

You might want to switch oakheart salve for hide in plain sight when the change hits. 1 more stealth. Nice vid. I might need to rethink using more than one stun breaks in wvw, although most fights were duels.

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Posted by: Sagramor.7395

Sagramor.7395

You might want to switch oakheart salve for hide in plain sight when the change hits. 1 more stealth. Nice vid. I might need to rethink using more than one stun breaks in wvw, although most fights were duels.

Pretty sure the Camouflage > Stealth change is live, but tooltip is still that of Camouflage. I haven’t messed around with that trait so I could be wrong.

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Posted by: Leowan.4389

Leowan.4389

Really good video and play by you. Well done!

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

OMG its you, i remeber you from OS, the most annoying trapper build ever. I even tried to reconstruct your build on this forum 2 times and recomand it to ppl looking for trapper rune build.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Double-bow-condi-power-hybrid-trapper-build/first#post4920543

I will have my revenge….

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Posted by: Fox Of Precision.4187

Fox Of Precision.4187

You’re dead to me, Ragnar.

I jest, nice video and crazy setup.

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Posted by: StickerHappy.8052

StickerHappy.8052

Is it good to go full cele?

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Posted by: Angel.8742

Angel.8742

Excellent Build Ragnar. I myself have been a Trapper Ranger since the very beginning. I love the playstyle. LB/SB with traps has always been my combo setup on my main ranger. Wouldn’t change it for anything. I have a few different variations on setup compared to yours but generally the same thing. I love the trapper setup. Excellent Video. Thumbs up for that one!!

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Posted by: Narkodx.1472

Narkodx.1472

Good stuff nice vid

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Posted by: Ossyrana.1637

Ossyrana.1637

People said it couldn’t be done and that double-bows was a scrub build only played by newbies.

Well, dis-proving the nay-sayers.

pewpewpewpewpew

Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.

Yes yes YESS!!! Thank you Ragnar.4257!
If you make a ranger, you should use bow/bow, and if you wanna use bows then ranger should be your go to. So many people insist on making a ranger but avoiding their mastered weapon which confuses me lol. And those same ppl say if you wanna use bow then go be a different class lol – makes no sense. This video is awesome – thanks for sharing! <3 Much love!

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Posted by: Ossyrana.1637

Ossyrana.1637

Excellent Build Ragnar. I myself have been a Trapper Ranger since the very beginning. I love the playstyle. LB/SB with traps has always been my combo setup on my main ranger. Wouldn’t change it for anything. I have a few different variations on setup compared to yours but generally the same thing. I love the trapper setup. Excellent Video. Thumbs up for that one!!

I too have been playing with my ranger from the very beginning of GW2 (she was my first toon), though I didn’t start out as trapper right away…i developed it a bit later on her story/mapping/leveling journey and LOVED it! <3 But unfortunately now I have to change her build because after the update the traps are no longer targetable. They can only drop right where you are standing rather than being able to be placed nearly anywhere on the map far away from you and directly on an enemy. To me the point of a ranger is to be…well uh…ranged…hehe. So now I’m having a hard time finding a new build I like just as much and enjoy and be good at for me. I only play PvE, so it’s a bit more difficult (I know those who are pvp/wvw aren’t having a problem with the changes). But I’m still sticking with bow/bow no matter what others say…I haven’t played in a long time too so perhaps if i start playing again I’ll get a better hang of the new build I’ve been creating and be able to last a lot longer on the battlefield like the ranger in the video Happy playing!

Namaste <3
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Posted by: Sandzibar.5134

Sandzibar.5134

Great stuff. Very inspiring.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

You are killing players very very very slowly. Not my style. Good job with the vid though.

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Posted by: Ryou.2398

Ryou.2398

Awesome you used the power rangers song.

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

Interesting, still like my lockdown ranger a bit better, more offense and about the same defense.

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Posted by: Nicknobreak.7543

Nicknobreak.7543

LOL! ???? it’s like, I’m looking at this build thinking “There’s no way this build is going to work” but DANG this build works. Great 1v1 build.

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Posted by: Ragnar.4257

Ragnar.4257

It’s nice that people have re-discovered this thread.

I should just add that this video was made nearly a year ago, and since the changes to traits this build is no longer viable. Unfortunately you are now forced to choose between Trapper’s Expertise and bleed-on-crit, choose between Empathic Bond and Survival cooldown reduction, can no longer take cooldown reduction on both longbow and shortbow, and can no longer use frost-trap to escape into stealth as it now reveals you.

It’s a shame, but cookie-cutter is apparently all we’re allowed any more.

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