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[Video] Celestial Longbow/Shortbow Trapper
I very VERY rarely watch a 15 minute video till the end.
I watched this till the end.
Gunnar’s Hold
double bow trapper ranger? Whats your build?
People said it couldn’t be done and that double-bows was a scrub build only played by newbies.
Well, dis-proving the nay-sayers.
pewpewpewpewpew
Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.
Tell me you put a link to the FULL build in there…. (crossing fingers)
I cant believe I watched the whole thing…Well done
I was trying to guess the build since u did not post it
any guesses?
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Nice fight. However the reason why ranger doesn’t use double bows in wvw is not because it’s weak, but because of how the nature of WvW works. More often you’ll face more than 1 person, that you have to run or pull your distance. Well, your trapper rune kinda solve this problem, so maybe it’s a good call to use this. I may consider building one someday.
Also I find the way you fight is mostly reliant on SB condition burst, and LB is just a distraction weapon for more stealth, pushback, and cripple. Maybe another weapon will fit even better than LB?
I also have a feeling this build will be even stronger as a pure condition build, but then classes like shadow art thief and diamond skin may be problematic without any physical damage.
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I would suggest you to say that it’s a vid in the topic title if you can.
Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.
Matter of taste, but it’s a nice vid with good fights.
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I cant believe I watched the whole thing…Well done
I was trying to guess the build since u did not post it
any guesses?
Nope, it’s x661x with 1 point I’m not sure but think its 06620 because I can’t see the minor trait going off in marksmanship or beastmastery. He also didn’t get stunned after a Bulls charge hit him so it’s a shared anguish in the WS line. Could know he didn’t spend any points in Marksmanship because no opening strike. What traits with these numbers not that hard to figure out too. Armor/Trinkets Celestial mostly because of HP, crit rate, toughness/tankyness (I have full ascended Cele too, quite similar) with bow zerker with fire/air sigil (could see the combat log), Shortbow maybe Rampagers/could also be zerkers with 1 torment sigil, the other not sure. He might have a few odd parts here and there but that’s the gist of it. Some fights emphatic bond didn’t go off, might have swapped Bark Skin/Emphatic bond out, but never see effects of Poison Master.
Also I find the way you fight is mostly reliant on SB condition burst, and LB is just a distraction weapon for more stealth, pushback, and cripple. Maybe another weapon will fit even better than LB?
If you look at the combat log when he uses Longbow you might think twice before saying that.
HoT = WvW players forced to PVE
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This seems more likely.
Because of the points made above. He doesn’t proc Oakheart Salve so thats not in there.. does have Wilderness Knowledge.. does have at least the Minor Adept NM line so presumably has the Major Adept as well, but since I can’t obviously see any of them at work it’s most like to be Strength of Spirit. It’s a logical choice anyway since Celestial does lack in power, so what I do when running my celestial trap build is take Strength of Spirit and power food to help compensate.
Anyway.. I will be off to try this out now. I run nearly an identicle build already, just with Traveler Runes and S/D instead of LB. But otherwise, identicle. Try keen to try this
Gunnar’s Hold
OP don’t post your build yet. Give me a little bit of time to figure it out haha
Guild Leader of Favorable Winds [Wind]
Updating original post with build.
Oh good lord, get Trapper’s Expertise already! You waste so much superspeed and stealth.
And don’t place both traps at the same time. Rotate cooldowns and you won’t need celestials, just carrion.
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Is this what you are using? I tried to match it the best I could, including healing ticks and health.
I checked boon durations, sigil procs, cooldowns…
I saw a fire/blood on longbow I believe. 325 healing came from the blood sigil.
Torment + Hobbling/Malice on shortbow for 5 second cripples
I couldn’t match your health exactly though. It was 915 healing ticks with TU and 21233 health.
OP changed the build though a few times during the video. I saw Oakheart Salve sometimes, and Shared Anguish other times. I also noticed that OP had Opening Strike on some fights, but not others.
Guild Leader of Favorable Winds [Wind]
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Oh good lord, get Trapper’s Expertise already! You waste so much superspeed and stealth.
NO.
The solution to trap-stealth getting wasted is for me to improve my game-play, not to change the build.
It is not possible to waste superspeed.
I’ll admit I’m not a 100% perfect player, and occasionally I make a bad choice, but Quick-Draw still adds far more to the build than Trapper’s Expertise.
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You might want to switch oakheart salve for hide in plain sight when the change hits. 1 more stealth. Nice vid. I might need to rethink using more than one stun breaks in wvw, although most fights were duels.
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You might want to switch oakheart salve for hide in plain sight when the change hits. 1 more stealth. Nice vid. I might need to rethink using more than one stun breaks in wvw, although most fights were duels.
Pretty sure the Camouflage > Stealth change is live, but tooltip is still that of Camouflage. I haven’t messed around with that trait so I could be wrong.
Really good video and play by you. Well done!
OMG its you, i remeber you from OS, the most annoying trapper build ever. I even tried to reconstruct your build on this forum 2 times and recomand it to ppl looking for trapper rune build.
I will have my revenge….
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You’re dead to me, Ragnar.
I jest, nice video and crazy setup.
Is it good to go full cele?
Excellent Build Ragnar. I myself have been a Trapper Ranger since the very beginning. I love the playstyle. LB/SB with traps has always been my combo setup on my main ranger. Wouldn’t change it for anything. I have a few different variations on setup compared to yours but generally the same thing. I love the trapper setup. Excellent Video. Thumbs up for that one!!
Good stuff nice vid
People said it couldn’t be done and that double-bows was a scrub build only played by newbies.
Well, dis-proving the nay-sayers.
pewpewpewpewpew
Go bow/bow or you’re not a true ranger.
Yes yes YESS!!! Thank you Ragnar.4257!
If you make a ranger, you should use bow/bow, and if you wanna use bows then ranger should be your go to. So many people insist on making a ranger but avoiding their mastered weapon which confuses me lol. And those same ppl say if you wanna use bow then go be a different class lol – makes no sense. This video is awesome – thanks for sharing! <3 Much love!
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Excellent Build Ragnar. I myself have been a Trapper Ranger since the very beginning. I love the playstyle. LB/SB with traps has always been my combo setup on my main ranger. Wouldn’t change it for anything. I have a few different variations on setup compared to yours but generally the same thing. I love the trapper setup. Excellent Video. Thumbs up for that one!!
I too have been playing with my ranger from the very beginning of GW2 (she was my first toon), though I didn’t start out as trapper right away…i developed it a bit later on her story/mapping/leveling journey and LOVED it! <3 But unfortunately now I have to change her build because after the update the traps are no longer targetable. They can only drop right where you are standing rather than being able to be placed nearly anywhere on the map far away from you and directly on an enemy. To me the point of a ranger is to be…well uh…ranged…hehe. So now I’m having a hard time finding a new build I like just as much and enjoy and be good at for me. I only play PvE, so it’s a bit more difficult (I know those who are pvp/wvw aren’t having a problem with the changes). But I’m still sticking with bow/bow no matter what others say…I haven’t played in a long time too so perhaps if i start playing again I’ll get a better hang of the new build I’ve been creating and be able to last a lot longer on the battlefield like the ranger in the video Happy playing!
Namaste <3
Ossy
Great stuff. Very inspiring.
You are killing players very very very slowly. Not my style. Good job with the vid though.
Awesome you used the power rangers song.
Interesting, still like my lockdown ranger a bit better, more offense and about the same defense.
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LOL! ???? it’s like, I’m looking at this build thinking “There’s no way this build is going to work” but DANG this build works. Great 1v1 build.
It’s nice that people have re-discovered this thread.
I should just add that this video was made nearly a year ago, and since the changes to traits this build is no longer viable. Unfortunately you are now forced to choose between Trapper’s Expertise and bleed-on-crit, choose between Empathic Bond and Survival cooldown reduction, can no longer take cooldown reduction on both longbow and shortbow, and can no longer use frost-trap to escape into stealth as it now reveals you.
It’s a shame, but cookie-cutter is apparently all we’re allowed any more.