Guild Wars 2

Nerdsaver.6415:

Hey Puandro, big thanks for this thread. I’ve been playing a Ranger since release and never considered a melee build. The game was getting boring for me so I gave your build a shot. Wow what fun things are now. I was at Southsun last night where a lot of folks were getting slapped around by the Vet Karkas. There were a few instances where I got caught in a knock down cycle along with those next to me. The other players would usually all go down, but not me. I could get the downed guys back up, and not have to worry about going down myself in the middle of the fight. The toughness/regen combo is so ridiculous.

I thought my damage out put would suffer with this build, but it didn’t. I seem to kill stuff as fast if not faster than my previous zerk 30/25/10/5/0 setup with LB, Axe/Axe, and traps.

In WvW it was always run with the boring zerg herd, and avoid the individual encounters at all costs. I’ve had a couple of 1v1 and 1v2 encounters with the new setup and no more turning tail for me. Good times.

Thanks again.

Glad you are enjoying it man. I am a big fan of the melee attacks rangers have access to. I almost rolled ranger as my main during headstart but ended up with D/D ele at the end.

Man, that video left me speechless. You sir are an amazing player. Your movement is unbelievable. My concern with melee has always been chasing runners down. That isn’t a problem for you.

I have used GS and S/D…but neither at the same time. Dunno if I could pull it off

Great job !

Hi Puandro,
i tried your build and it’s impressive. Good job indeed

I was just wandering, how about apothecary equipment instead of cleric?

Thanks for sharing this!

wrango.2590:

Hi Puandro,
i tried your build and it’s impressive. Good job indeed

I was just wandering, how about apothecary equipment instead of cleric?

Thanks for sharing this!

Apothecary is an option but you have to use axe/torch instead of GS so you lose mobility. Also you use offhand cooldown reduction instead of sword reduction. You will have an easier time against bunkers like guardians and eles but the good ones are still unkillable. Its also very weak if you run into enemies with lemongrass food and melandru runes even if you run pizza for condition duration. Its a different playstyle with the same idea. Be hard to kill while you wear them down and your pet doing most of the damage.

Forzani.2584:

Man, that video left me speechless. You sir are an amazing player. Your movement is unbelievable. My concern with melee has always been chasing runners down. That isn’t a problem for you.

I have used GS and S/D…but neither at the same time. Dunno if I could pull it off

Great job !

You wont know unless you try

Enjoyed the vid, was great watching you leap around endlessly whilst watching people being hit by your pet. Quite surprised at the lack of skill of the opposition- maybe those thiefs will learn to run when they see Jag and a GS, as they could easily have disengaged when it was obvious they couldn’t beat you:-)

Looks like a fun build, but only useful for roaming like most BM builds so not really my cup of tea- but kudos for having so much fun with it and hopefully people will try it out.

Puandro.3245:

Forzani.2584:

Man, that video left me speechless. You sir are an amazing player. Your movement is unbelievable. My concern with melee has always been chasing runners down. That isn’t a problem for you.

I have used GS and S/D…but neither at the same time. Dunno if I could pull it off

Great job !

You wont know unless you try

So I did try it last night. A few observations.

1. Very fun
2. First fight after respec was vs Warrior. Beat him easily (although Warriors in general are pretty easy for Rangers)
3. Next 3 fights were vs runners. As I anticipated it is very tough to do anything vs that. The first two were Guardians. I would catch them with swoop and get that hit blocked. Back to the chase. One of them was laughing all the way. I chased him halfway across the map. Finally disengaged pet. Got out of combat and swapped S/D to SB. That did the trick
4. Pet with 25 stacks on it hits very hard. Found out the hardway that storing pet =loss of stacks. Swimming =loss of stacks. That kind of sucks. Looks like F2 for Jag stealth kept the stacks though.
5. What was weird was realizing i was playing my Ranger like a Warrior and i play my Warrior like a Ranger. Ranger is just way sturdier…which makes zero sense.

Anet can be criticized for some things, but they sure got one thing right. Being able to regear and respec your character so easily into a totally different style of play is pretty nice.

Edit: ..and beat a Mesmer pretty handily last night also. This build you can’t stand back and try and win a ranged fight. You gotta get right in their face. Which seemed to work much better.

Oh I haven’t added this thread yet to the compilation thread XD Been seeing this around, I thought I already added it :P

I’m adding it now Also, cool char name :P definitely set off some of my alarms XD

Good video, was fun to watch. Builds that bunker like this really hurt because I play my Warrior in WvW, and Warrior sustainability is stupid bad without lemongrass (and even with, it’s inferior to many other classes). It doesn’t help that as a commander I have to build considerably different than if I were to roam, but that’s just how it goes.

I tried this build out on one of my rangers, and have to say I enjoyed it for a change- it actually worked quite well with a SB as I was fooling around and had swopped the sword out for SB when we got in a battle- was fun healing up effectively while stacking conditions on the guardians.

Didn’t enjoy it so much in any sort of larger group fight but that might be more to do with my noobishness on the build and the fact I’m usually playing ranged than anything else.

Cant i see ur build plz

Rascabuches.5914:

Cant i see ur build plz

Its in the youtube description.

Here to drop some props for the build. I’ve always been that ranger focused on my bows and have been looking for something new….and this is fun! I was trying out the sword a week ago but hadnt figured out a good technique quite yet. Just able to melee the end boss of cof p1 the entire time without trouble!

reset my traits similar to yours focusing on bm and oh have i missed sasquatch criting for 1k+. So keep doing what your doing because I’m not one to crunch those numbers, i eat that captain crunch instead!

zerOFive.2359:

Here to drop some props for the build. I’ve always been that ranger focused on my bows and have been looking for something new….and this is fun! I was trying out the sword a week ago but hadnt figured out a good technique quite yet. Just able to melee the end boss of cof p1 the entire time without trouble!

reset my traits similar to yours focusing on bm and oh have i missed sasquatch criting for 1k+. So keep doing what your doing because I’m not one to crunch those numbers, i eat that captain crunch instead!

LOL Captain Crunch.

Captain Crunch is the most dangerous cereal there is, talk about palate lacerations, but let it soak in milk for 45 minutes, best tasting thing on the planet.

Relevant

Thanks for showing me another way to play a ranger. I always stuck to the longbow/greatsword combo for pve, and longbow/sword & horn combo for pvp. Now I have something else to play with, it’s something to get used to though, but way more fun then constantly running for your life, now I can run and have fun, thanks!

Another day with the setup and I still haven’t decided if this works for me ….not because it is a bad build..but because my skill level might not be high enough. It is fun though

I noticed that classes I easily beat before with range, like Necros, can be a problem now since I have to chase them around. Same thing with Rangers. Guardians are also tougher now since you can’t kite. Warriors no difference. Mesmers seems a bit easier. Ele about the same. Thieves I still have a problem with and Engineers I don’t even try without a ranged attack. Taking supply camps solo is a no go for me. I switch to A/T for that….the bad thing is I lose stacks on pets since jag doesn’t last in that fight so I need to load another pet before fight.

I did win a couple of 1v2 quite handily and seemed easier than ranged spec.

To be determined !

Forzani.2584:

Another day with the setup and I still haven’t decided if this works for me ….not because it is a bad build..but because my skill level might not be high enough. It is fun though

I noticed that classes I easily beat before with range, like Necros, can be a problem now since I have to chase them around. Same thing with Rangers. Guardians are also tougher now since you can’t kite. Warriors no difference. Mesmers seems a bit easier. Ele about the same. Thieves I still have a problem with and Engineers I don’t even try without a ranged attack. Taking supply camps solo is a no go for me. I switch to A/T for that….the bad thing is I lose stacks on pets since jag doesn’t last in that fight so I need to load another pet before fight.

I did win a couple of 1v2 quite handily and seemed easier than ranged spec.

To be determined !

You shouldnt need to kite pretty much any class 1v1. Chasing is pretty easy since the sword Auto Attack cripples and you have Dagger #5. If they port ill use my sword #2 or swap to GS and Swoop. When you try to take camps save your F2 on Jag as a “de-aggro” since they wont attack it while your heal is on CD. Also always kill the scouts first since they AoE blind.

If you like it i say keep trying but if you don’t i wouldn’t suggest to try to learn a build you don’t like.

How the hell do you get by with no condition removal at all? is it just a “typo” on the build link or don’t you use it at all?

I used to run generosity and signet for a while and although it works most times the second you meet someone condition heavy you just melt so now I got empathic bond ontop of that wich to be fair might be overkill but for now I like being strong on that bit.

Manekk.6981:

How the hell do you get by with no condition removal at all? is it just a “typo” on the build link or don’t you use it at all?

I used to run generosity and signet for a while and although it works most times the second you meet someone condition heavy you just melt so now I got empathic bond ontop of that wich to be fair might be overkill but for now I like being strong on that bit.

I have NP with condis unless its an HGH Engi. It’s not a typo i have 0 condi removal.

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

How the hell do you get by with no condition removal at all? is it just a “typo” on the build link or don’t you use it at all?

I used to run generosity and signet for a while and although it works most times the second you meet someone condition heavy you just melt so now I got empathic bond ontop of that wich to be fair might be overkill but for now I like being strong on that bit.

I have NP with condis unless its an HGH Engi. It’s not a typo i have 0 condi removal.

Must have been extremely lucky then if you don’t feel it’s a problem for you, I’m guessing you’ll reconsider that on the first one you meet.

He just out heals the condition damage, its not that mind blowing.

Manekk.6981:

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

How the hell do you get by with no condition removal at all? is it just a “typo” on the build link or don’t you use it at all?

I used to run generosity and signet for a while and although it works most times the second you meet someone condition heavy you just melt so now I got empathic bond ontop of that wich to be fair might be overkill but for now I like being strong on that bit.

I have NP with condis unless its an HGH Engi. It’s not a typo i have 0 condi removal.

Must have been extremely lucky then if you don’t feel it’s a problem for you, I’m guessing you’ll reconsider that on the first one you meet.

An HGH Engi needs to be P/P and Grenades (and use them well) to put me in a position where i might need to back off and heal. No Grenades and its a no go. Just like i avoid a lot of physical damage by dodging and blocking i avoid a lot of condi damage.

Miiro.3124:

He just out heals the condition damage, its not that mind blowing.

No he isn’t he might be dodging/evading/blocking well enough to avoid most but you cannot outheal several stacks of conditions even at high healing power the regen can’t keep up outside of during troll combined with all other sources, that said if he doesn’t need it he doesn’t I’m just having the feeling he hasn’t really come across anyone good at stacking condition on him very often but that might be wrong it’s just a hunch.

Manekk.6981:

Miiro.3124:

He just out heals the condition damage, its not that mind blowing.

No he isn’t he might be dodging/evading/blocking well enough to avoid most but you cannot outheal several stacks of conditions even at high healing power the regen can’t keep up outside of during troll combined with all other sources, that said if he doesn’t need it he doesn’t I’m just having the feeling he hasn’t really come across anyone good at stacking condition on him very often but that might be wrong it’s just a hunch.

Yes if i get loaded up with condis then i can;t out heal it. But i can out heal pretty much any condi class except HGH Grenade engis due to being able to do so much physical and condi damage and they have every type of condi.

HGH Grenade Engi is the only condi build that can actually pressure me 1v1. Even then i can swap traits/skills around and make it tough for them.

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Miiro.3124:

He just out heals the condition damage, its not that mind blowing.

No he isn’t he might be dodging/evading/blocking well enough to avoid most but you cannot outheal several stacks of conditions even at high healing power the regen can’t keep up outside of during troll combined with all other sources, that said if he doesn’t need it he doesn’t I’m just having the feeling he hasn’t really come across anyone good at stacking condition on him very often but that might be wrong it’s just a hunch.

Yes if i get loaded up with condis then i can;t out heal it. But i can out heal pretty much any condi class except HGH Grenade engis due to being able to do so much physical and condi damage and they have every type of condi.

HGH Grenade Engi is the only condi build that can actually pressure me 1v1. Even then i can swap traits/skills around and make it tough for them.

I would think an apothecary BM would be a rough counter to this aswell.

Manekk.6981:

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Miiro.3124:

He just out heals the condition damage, its not that mind blowing.

No he isn’t he might be dodging/evading/blocking well enough to avoid most but you cannot outheal several stacks of conditions even at high healing power the regen can’t keep up outside of during troll combined with all other sources, that said if he doesn’t need it he doesn’t I’m just having the feeling he hasn’t really come across anyone good at stacking condition on him very often but that might be wrong it’s just a hunch.

Yes if i get loaded up with condis then i can;t out heal it. But i can out heal pretty much any condi class except HGH Grenade engis due to being able to do so much physical and condi damage and they have every type of condi.

HGH Grenade Engi is the only condi build that can actually pressure me 1v1. Even then i can swap traits/skills around and make it tough for them.

I would think an apothecary BM would be a rough counter to this aswell.

You would but unless i just go crazy with my sword auto attack to stack might and not dodge i dont even need to use my heal.

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Miiro.3124:

He just out heals the condition damage, its not that mind blowing.

No he isn’t he might be dodging/evading/blocking well enough to avoid most but you cannot outheal several stacks of conditions even at high healing power the regen can’t keep up outside of during troll combined with all other sources, that said if he doesn’t need it he doesn’t I’m just having the feeling he hasn’t really come across anyone good at stacking condition on him very often but that might be wrong it’s just a hunch.

Yes if i get loaded up with condis then i can;t out heal it. But i can out heal pretty much any condi class except HGH Grenade engis due to being able to do so much physical and condi damage and they have every type of condi.

HGH Grenade Engi is the only condi build that can actually pressure me 1v1. Even then i can swap traits/skills around and make it tough for them.

I would think an apothecary BM would be a rough counter to this aswell.

You would but unless i just go crazy with my sword auto attack to stack might and not dodge i dont even need to use my heal.

No offence but I find that very hard to believe

I just fought this guy, he’s insane. I was on my Mesmer and we fought for like almost 5 minutes before I had to run away. NEVER, EVER have I lost to Ranger before. This guy is on his kitten and is one amazing player. /Bow sir, /bow.

Puandro… Amazing! …

LOL, lol, lol, lol, he lost to my bunker engi in a 1v1! I lawlz kitten him! I pwned him! I beat him into the ground! I stuck it in the kitten!

lol,

Amazing!

lol!

see you in guild Puandro <3

Too many familiar faces in here…..just sayin’

Bump to page 1

:)

lol thanks.

Working on a 2nd vid with a new build, looking good so far.

I did not see any exploits in that video :\

;P

runs away

I am amazed. But also saddened. I just came back to GW2 after several months and respecced my ranger and spent all my money on new gear. [I changed from Condition Shortbow / Axe+Horn to Beserker’s/Valkyrie Longbow / Greatsword].

I would love to try your build in WvW but I can’t afford to now. I’ll give it a shot in Spvp, but not sure whether it will be as effective.

I’ve been using this in SPvP. I seem to be struggling. In one on one fights I usually outlast them until help arrives, one way or another. However I die to condition builds, particularly when I get bleed stacked.

Antisceptic.9174:

I’ve been using this in SPvP. I seem to be struggling. In one on one fights I usually outlast them until help arrives, one way or another. However I die to condition builds, particularly when I get bleed stacked.

In sPvP i recommend taking Empathic Bond over Bark Skin and/or Healing Spring over Troll Unguent. Also Mighty Swap over Masters Bond.

Puandro, my video is in the works. Hope to have it up and running by Tuesday the latest. :-)

Zera.8907:

Puandro, my video is in the works. Hope to have it up and running by Tuesday the latest. :-)

Nice. Probably post my new build tomorrow.

Puandro.3245:

Antisceptic.9174:

I’ve been using this in SPvP. I seem to be struggling. In one on one fights I usually outlast them until help arrives, one way or another. However I die to condition builds, particularly when I get bleed stacked.

In sPvP i recommend taking Empathic Bond over Bark Skin and/or Healing Spring over Troll Unguent. Also Mighty Swap over Masters Bond.

Okay, I’ll give that a shot. Thanks.

What about Sword sigil, ?

Antisceptic.9174:

Puandro.3245:

Antisceptic.9174:

I’ve been using this in SPvP. I seem to be struggling. In one on one fights I usually outlast them until help arrives, one way or another. However I die to condition builds, particularly when I get bleed stacked.

In sPvP i recommend taking Empathic Bond over Bark Skin and/or Healing Spring over Troll Unguent. Also Mighty Swap over Masters Bond.

Okay, I’ll give that a shot. Thanks.

What about Sword sigil, ?

Sigils are fine as a bunker to hold a point.

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

I reckon condi rangers would kitten on this spec, you would have perma poison on you which would kitten your heals.

Nugget.8031:

I reckon condi rangers would kitten on this spec, you would have perma poison on you which would kitten your heals.

Condi rangers don’t do enough damage to kill me with this spec.

Edit: Im assuming you are talking about Condi BM Ranger Bunker not Trap Spec.

Xsorus.2507:

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

He’d lose all the regen with melandru+food though wich would kinda take away the whole point of using clerics in the first place

Manekk.6981:

Xsorus.2507:

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

He’d lose all the regen with melandru+food though wich would kinda take away the whole point of using clerics in the first place

4 Dwayna + 2 melandru + food.

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Xsorus.2507:

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

He’d lose all the regen with melandru+food though wich would kinda take away the whole point of using clerics in the first place

4 Dwayna + 2 melandru + food.

That’s a way I guess although I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to simply stick with 6 dwayna and use the lemongrass then to get the bigger healing bonus and an extra regen source, of course it depends entirely what setup your opponent has and if he’s in turn eating pizzas or not.

Manekk.6981:

Puandro.3245:

Manekk.6981:

Xsorus.2507:

With no condition removal the only thing that’d really give Paundro trouble would probably be HGH Engineers like he said, and P/D thieves (which you honestly don’t see a lot of those anymore, they’re mostly S/D and D/P)

Condition Mesmer’s might be tough though, it’d really depend on running Melandru and Lemongrass or Saphron Bread..If he ran those, he honestly shouldn’t have much trouble.

He’d lose all the regen with melandru+food though wich would kinda take away the whole point of using clerics in the first place

4 Dwayna + 2 melandru + food.

That’s a way I guess although I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to simply stick with 6 dwayna and use the lemongrass then to get the bigger healing bonus and an extra regen source, of course it depends entirely what setup your opponent has and if he’s in turn eating pizzas or not.

4 Dwayna is still pretty much almost perma regen.

Mind if I ask, with all these healing power items stacking each other, how high is your regeneration via TU and the rest of the skills?